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Anyone watching this?
I guess its primarily targeted at a younger audience but not categorically.

Anyway, in the first episode young Neil proclaimed the universe to be "unbounded".

errrr? what.

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I see what you did there.

>> No.6472864

I want more mind-blowing special effects and less anime history lessons.

>> No.6472874

>>6472864
I second this notion.

The black hole episode was outstanding, the artists impression of the event horizon was really thrilling.

>> No.6472899

>>6472874
I think Tyson really likes talking about black holes.
This isn't the first time I've seen him talk about them.
He's the first person I've heard use the term "spaghettification".

>inb4freud

>> No.6472911

>>6472899
Well, "spaghettification" is actually a technical term.

And who wouldn't want to talk about black holes? They have something interesting in many different fields of physics. Like Hawking radiation.

>> No.6474943

>>6472864
The historical sequences have actually become a lot more impressive with the last few episodes.

Patrick Stewart did an excellent job as William Herschel and his dialog felt very genuine, and the sequences in last weeks episode with al-Haytham and Fraunhofer were good too.

If feel like these last few episodes have had a much better understanding of how to work the historical/character stuff into the broader narrative for the episode.

Herschel's discussions of binaries and 'dark stars' made for an excellent segue into talking about black holes, and the 'history of light' narrative in the last episode did a great job of illustrating the slow but progressive processes of science and how something science can turn something as seemingly simple as light into a tool for understanding the rest of the universe.


This weeks episode sounds like it's doing something similar to the last one, framing the episode's narrative around the search for "where we came from" and the discovery of our link to the stars through stellar nucleosynthesis

>> No.6474982

This reboot is missing one thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT5zCHn0tsg&list=PLADC44DBB3E9F6B77

>> No.6474992

>>6474982
Vangelis had other shit going on so they got Silvestri (the guy who scored Contact)

>> No.6477114

The coming episode, will NDT
a) attempt to disprove American Christian believes
b) attempt to beat up a four year old
c) attempt to win a table tennis match against Stephen Hawking?

Place your bets.

In any case, his fans will love him for his boldness.

>> No.6477123

>>6477114
I'm not a fan of how they're focusing more on history rather than the cosmos, but I think a show that promotes skepticism airing on a popular network during primetime is a good thing.

>> No.6477133

>>6474982
Still gives me goosebumps, even after all those years.

>> No.6477134

>>6477123
I think its really important to teach Americans and espicially the young that America is not the greatest country ever and did not invent everything.

I was really happy with last weeks episode where they focused on islam's age of enlightenment.
I bet that shat on some heads in the US

>> No.6477153

>>6477123
Agreed.

>>6477114
The episode's called "Deeper, deeper, deeper still" which might indicate either:
> going smaller and smaller, so it's gonna focus on the scale of single particles.
> a new Sasha Grey anal scene.

>>6474992
>>6474982
The soundtrack in the new version is really good, come on.

>>6472864
>>6472874
Yeah, the special effects are better than in most Hollywood productions these days. I love the way the show is produced.

Also, the cartoon historical parts of the show are clearly targeted at the young audience and it's not a bad thing. My 8 year old brother loves them, he actually tried some experiments with light prism because of the last episode. This alone means the show delievers what it was supposed to deliver in the first place - the fascination with science to the people who are not (yet) scientifically literate.

>> No.6477160

>>6477134
>America is not the greatest country ever and did not invent everything.
What about Feynman? What about the atom bomb?

Other than that, yeah, the US isn't that great.

>> No.6477168

>>6477160
what about our gilded age?

what did /sci/ think about the orbitals?

>> No.6477211

Place your bets, will they have the balls to show Russian mathematicians/physicists?

>> No.6477259

>>6477211
Im going to say no

>> No.6477289

>>6477211
Well, the show was made before all this Russian/US shit going on now

Plus it hasn't hesitated to show Islamic and Chinese scholars so I don't think there's any issue.

>> No.6477295

>>6477211
Didn't the original have Mendeleev?

>> No.6477298

>>6477289
I heard fox stations in the south edited the first and third episodes because of creationism

>> No.6477304

>>6477298

Source or just rumors?

>> No.6477308

>>6477304
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/12/oklahoma-fox-station-removes-evolution-from-cosmos-by-cutting-only-15-seconds/

>> No.6477309

>>6477304
Neil tweeted it and a link. cba to look, did a quite google search and couldnt find it but Neil did tweet it

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6477319

>>6477308
I. Fucking. Hate. Christfags.

Now, Christfags are different from Christians. Christians are cool.

Militant fucking theists are the spawn of fucking Hitler.

I'm so fucking mad right now. Those poor kids growing up there... Being brainwashed...

>> No.6477336

>>6477333
>333
>trips

IDS HABBENING

THEISTS CONFOIMED FOR DESTROYED MURRICA SOON

>> No.6477333

>>6477319

And remember anon, these people vote.

>> No.6477351

>>6477336
It IS happening.
Slowly but surely.

Eventually we'll just have to leave and create America 2.0 or something.

>> No.6477408

>>6477351

Your financially uneducated mass, which keeps demanding for short-solution, long-term ineffective measures is a much bigger problem.

Not that the Young Earth Creationists aren't a whole batch of crazy, but the U.S. has a bigger problem than them.

>> No.6477513

Cozmos tiem

>> No.6477516

Is this a anime Jesus episode?

>> No.6477529

billions, and billions, and billions of years

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>> No.6477653

>>6477319
>Militant fucking theists are the spawn of fucking Hitler.
This isn't just a sound bite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RSjvQYdVTQ

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>>6477153
>> a new Sasha Grey anal scene

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>>6477153
>a new Sasha Grey anal scene

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>>6472911

>> No.6479176

>>6472911
I wouldn't.
I'd rather talk about the least action principle or control volumes, etc

>> No.6479263

>>6479176
Good luck holding a crowd's attention with that

>> No.6479278

>>6472701

The new series has shit music and the episodes are too short. Not feeling it so far. Hope the rest of the episodes make up for the first bunch. Sucks, because I love Black Science Man and really enjoyed his most recent book.

>> No.6479333

>>6479278
>The new series has shit music and the episodes are too short. Not feeling it so far
This, Vangelis was so much better. Sagan also. Neil is better in youtube videos than in Cosmos

>> No.6479695

Seen better docs about the subjects elsewhere. So far it has been watered down, same old content, and most irritating is the same old standard model theories.

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>>6479695
>Expecting a college lecture from a show aimed at the general audience

>> No.6479711

>>6479176
>cosmos should talk about the principle of least action
This assumes that the audience knows multivariable calculus and functional calculus. Do you really think this would be good to put on a pop-sci TV show?

>> No.6479714

some srs autism present here.

>> No.6479737

>>6479704
They could at least talk about string theory, right?

>> No.6479747

>>6479737
Why would they talk about something that isn't even remotely scientific?

>> No.6479752

>>6479747
>string theory isn't scientific
String theory is speculative science.
But I agree, it doesn't really belong on Cosmos.

>> No.6479751

I feel bad for you guys who can't enjoy it for what it is: A science show on a major network aired during prime-time.

>> No.6480874

>>6479695
>>6479737
what? no. The current subject matter goes deep enough into what we know about science so as to inform people and interest them.

If you're bored by it, then you're not the target audience.

>> No.6480878

>>6479060
> philosophy

fucking dropped.

>> No.6480889

>>6477308
It was a mistake by the network manager dealing with commercials. The other non-creationist aspects of that episode were shown. Fuck off.

>> No.6480903

>>6472911
>And who wouldn't want to talk about black holes?

I'm starting to get a little tired of them (non-STEM student here). They're nice and all that jazz, but after hearing about them for billion and billion times it get's tiring.

>> No.6480904

>>6480874
I don't know about that.

Granted I may have missed the last couple so maybe it got better, but in the 3-4 episodes I saw I thought there was actually quite a bit more they could have said while still keeping it at layman levels.

This might just be me nitpicking at one particular example, but if you watch the episode on relativity again you might know where I'm coming from

Try watching it from a mindset of someone who doesn't already know relativity, and all I can think is that I would _still_ have no fucking clue what relativity is. He didn't even really say anything about time dilation.. Basically the layman watching the show now thinks relativity is nothing more than Einstein pulling the idea that nothing can travel faster than light out of his ass (seriously, if you watch it again that's how it sounds)

I know you guys defending the show mean well, and I've been trying from the beginning to pretend I don't know any science and am experiencing this for the first time.. But I really just don't think he was doing as well as he could be, it's not stimulating people's curiosity enough.

Maybe his idea is "I want to teach them about topics, such that when I'm done with today's episode they will know everything they need to about that topic", and so the result isn't that they teach topics more completely, the result is that they select the topics, and subtopics so that they _can_. (e.g. only mentioning one postulate of relativity so that the discussion feels more complete)

But what they should be doing is saying "I want to teach them just enough to make them want to look stuff up independently", which I think is what Carl Sagan did much more of.

Anyways, that's just how it feels to me in general so far. I still have to catch up on those 2 episodes I missed.