Chess thread

[Anonymous No.6374503]

Sup /sci/,

I haven't seen a lichess thread in ages. Sunday lichess thread then: http://lichess.org/nTz6idEJ

>inb4 chess isn't sci or math related
>inb4 logic puzzles don't belong on my IQ board

[Anonymous No.6374518]

>>6374503
who's playing black?
kill yourself, dude.

[OP No.6374526]

>>6374518

not me, kek

[Anonymous No.6374532]

>>6374518
sick castle dude

[OP No.6374535]

>>6374526
>>6374526

but I still played an awful game

>>6374532
sorry man, I'm 1300 ELO at best

[Anonymous No.6374539]

>those two knights
no one noticed?

[Anonymous No.6374546]

>>6374503

>Chess
>not the superior Go

[None !!UdnwU9B2MmS No.6374785]

>>6374503
sorry m8 haven't played in decades

[Anonymous No.6374797]

http://lichess.org/3uF8kt3F

[Anonymous No.6374799]

>>6374503
Not playing Go instead.

I'll take your 1. e4 and raise with a 1. 3-4

[Anonymous No.6374801]

>>6374546
This. Go is the only board game worth mentioning in any way.

[Anonymous No.6374805]

There is a dedicated board for this garbage you retarded piece of shit.

>>>/tg/

[Anonymous No.6374806]

>>6374801
>>6374799
>>6374546

This is now a Go thread.

What to you guys think about high chinese? I usually play low when I play the chinese, but I've been looking to mix it up.

[Anonymous No.6374807]

>>6374546

I did a paper on algorithms for solving Go last term. It's pretty interesting.

I'm still shit at the game, though.

[Anonymous No.6374831]

>>6374806
I personally usually open with chinese (almost-)mini.
The third stone on high and low chinese feel too defensive to me. I put the 4th stone of mini only if my opponent is playing exceedingly light. If he's heavy I'll just continue attacking, and usually I like to touch the middle on the opposite side as fast as possible.
Then again, I'm a 17k scrub on gopanda so maybe I'm overextending.

[Anonymous No.6374874]

>>6374831
KGS 13k here. I dunno. I actually don't like sticking to a single strategy. I like to be flexible, so I might play Kobayashi Mark 1 or orthodox as black and see what my opponent wants to do.

As white I just attack.

[Anonymous No.6376146]

>>6374874
Right now I don't keep adopting the same strategy midgame and up, but during the opening, I find it helps get a grasp at the opponent. Since you know how different playstyles respond to your unchanging openings, it's easier to predict how they'll play later.
I think I'll come back to KGS soon. Nobody speaks English on gopanda and you can't speak to people after a game. KGS people tend to be very friendly, sometimes offering lessons or game reviews after a game.

[Anonymous No.6376152]

Since this is a Go thread, can anybody recommed me a go set to purchase from amazon?

[Anonymous No.6376158]

>>6376152
See http://www.kiseido.com/go_equipment.htm

[Anonymous No.6376163]

>entire board dedicated to board games
>OP decides to shitpost his crap on /sci/ instead
>still alive after days yet calling something "zionist" gives a ban within 10 minutes
mod logic!

[Anonymous No.6376169]

>>6376163
There's a bunch of work in mathematics and comp sci to solve said games. Like this anon mentioned.
>>6374807
This is not the same thing as those games where people spend weeks painting dolls to play.

[Anonymous No.6376167]

>>6376163
Reminder that shitposting outside of /b/ is forbidden.

[Anonymous No.6376176]

>>6376169
Nobody here is talking about that though you fucking idiot. Instead you're playing lichess and circlejerking over go vs chess.

[Anonymous No.6376178]

>>6376163
chass falls under math

[Anonymous No.6376179]

>>6376178
See >>6376176 and yea dogecoin falls under technology and mlp falls under comics & cartoons

That really explains why /biz/ and /mlp/ exist!

[Anonymous No.6376185]

>>6376179
They were created because despite being on-topic, they were destroying the boards, you fucking autist. Cryptocurrencies were too popular and taking up other tech threads off the front page and MLP shit was literally cancer, just as furries, or you, are.

[Anonymous No.6376186]

>>6376179
>dogecoin falls under technology and mlp falls under comics & cartoons
>That really explains why /biz/ and /mlp/ exist!
that doesn't make any sense. are you claiming the board about boardgames is only for chess, and that sci is filled with nothing but chess threads?

[Anonymous No.6376188]

>>6376185
I guess then it's time for a chess containment board.

[Anonymous No.6376190]

>>6376188
See >>6376186

[Anonymous No.6376199]

>>6376185
No, John. You're the cancer. You got your own board for playing your retarded little board games all day and circlejerking each other over which one is better but here you all still willingly polluting sci/ with it. inb4 "Hurr durr logic puzzles", is navigating to the computer also a logic puzzle for you? Do you have an urge to post on /sci/ about it too?

>>6376186
No I'm saying it's off-topic because it has it's place on board much more relevant than this one.

[Anonymous No.6376202]

>>6376199
>You got your own board for playing your retarded little board games all day and circlejerking each other over which one is better
>on /sci/
>making a statement like that
Oh the ironing.

[Anonymous No.6376203]

>>6376199
relevancy is subjective, the discussion of it does not belong on /sci/, please don't post off topic.

[Anonymous No.6376207]

>>6376202
Science and math aren't anywhere close to the silly entertainment and recreational value of board games.

>>6376203
https://www.4chan.org/rules#tg
"Board games, paper games, war games, card games, etc. go here!"

Please follow the rules and go there.

[Anonymous No.6376208]

>>6376199
>Complains about shitty threads on /sci/.
>Turns thread into nothing but off-topic arguing.
Do the rest of us agree that this faggot should be banned?

[Anonymous No.6376209]

>>6376208
>shitposter makes shitposting thread
>gets mad that people complain about it

[Anonymous No.6376210]

>>6376207
Logic is a discipline of mathematics.
Machine learning (and AI in general) is a science.
Therefore, Go and Chess are science and math.
Checkmate.

[Anonymous No.6376216]

>>6376207
>Please follow the rules and go there.
why? i dont even fucking play chess

[Anonymous No.6376217]

>>6376209
I didn't make the thread. I am interested in algorithmic approaches to Go and Chess though. This thread doesn't seem to have any people actually playing lichess.

[Anonymous No.6376221]

>>6376210
No they're empty-headed board games and nobody is talking about math underlying and applied to them.

Math is used in business too, that doesn't make business alone a /sci/ topic.

>>6376217
Then start a thread on this topic. This one clearly consists of OP wanting to play lichess with random anons on /sci/ and go vs. chess circlejerking.

[Anonymous No.6376222]

>>6376221
>A thread can only be about the OP post.
Are you new to chans?

[Anonymous No.6376224]

>>6376221
Math is empty-headed. Go, on the other hand, is not.
Therefore, go is more appropriate than math on /sci/.
Atari.

[Anonymous No.6376226]

>>6376222
Hi newfag. OP picks a topic to discuss and everyone participating is expected to stick with it. Everything else is derailment.

[Anonymous No.6376227]

>>6376221
>nobody is talking about the math underlying and applied to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solved_game
Mathematicians also publish research papers on the subject.

>Math is used in business too
This isn't actually math. Mathematicians do not publish papers on ridiculous business concepts. There are no big business theorems.

[Anonymous No.6376228]

>>6376226
People create threads, people post in threads. No one sits around policing that people don't get off topic in their threads. Chans just aren't that clearly defined by design.

[Anonymous No.6376229]

>>6376227
>has never heard of operations research

[Anonymous No.6376230]

>>6376229
Not related to business. Try again.

[Anonymous No.6376233]

>>6376228
You couldn't possibly be this dense. There are a couple thousand different types of reaction images for declaring derailment of a thread on Google search alone.

>>6376230
>As a formal discipline, operational research originated in the efforts of military planners during World War II. In the decades after the war, the techniques began to be applied more widely to problems in business, industry and society.

[Anonymous No.6376236]

>>6376233
Okay dude, suppose that derailing a thread is wrong. Then you should go make your own thread where you complain about chess and go on /sci/ and leave this one alone.

[Anonymous No.6376239]

>>6376236
I'd prefer to stick to the rules and not create off-topic threads.

[Anonymous No.6376248]

>>6376239
Good, then shut up.

[Anonymous No.6376252]

>>6376248
You're not my mum m8

[Anonymous No.6376260]

>>6374503
Anyone happen to have a list of the AI approaches for Go? Last I read there was a closed source algorithm out there that used Monte Carlo that did quite well. At the time it was only able to beat amateur players though and still couldn't beat professional Go players.

It should just be a matter of time before an AI is capable of beating the best human players.

[Anonymous No.6376503]

>>6376260
Current approaches are with montecarlo tree search or ML/reinforcement learning. Best results "in the wild" are being able to maintain low dan rank on KGS, and winning when given a 9 stone handicap. I have a hard time finding papers via lame search (even on arxiv et al) because go is too common and nobody uses weiqi.

[Anonymous No.6376592]

is anyone on chess.com
my rating is ~1800 on standard and ~1650 on blitz.
what's your rating?

[Anonymous No.6377312]

>>6376592
my rating is over 9000

[Anonymous No.6377354]

>>6376503
Try "igo" and "baduk" (the Korean name for it--Go has been very popular in Korea over the last couple of decades, with many of the best players originating and being trained there).

[Anonymous No.6378099]

>>6376239
When you grow up in second world slavlands you get a taste of real world instead of bullshit:

No, you cant become president/astronaut when you grow up, maybe even a haircutter is out of your capabilities. Deal with it.
World is terribly, so so terribly unjust. There is no equality or justice on this Earth and if god really made it, he didnt have it in his plan so dont spend too much time crying over a spilled milk.
Time is the only currency you have.

Since 'comfort breeds weakness' and since every slavland had to deal with numerous bullshit through out history, men that survived all of it either toughened up or died trying.

Before you are 15 years old, you already had your first taste of real life, your first blowjob in the park, your first fight, you got mugged and roughed up for the first time and you kinda liked the effect bottle have on you and moral support it gives.

Meanwhile, others were watching their 'little girl' cartoons and played pokemon and got sheltered by their mom. They are now still virgins in their 20's and their opinions are shitting up their countries, they support immigration and welfare and think their rights and freedoms are completely practical in real world and dont know a single thing about self sacrifice and how much it is in dire need to your country. They also believe in peace and that peace can work in real life, while there are millions of muslims and what not out there.

[Anonymous No.6378528]

>>6374806
>not playing the Great Wall
its like you don't like to fight

[Anonymous No.6378534]

>>6376207
silly boy. Everyone knows only roleplaying and war hammer are welcome on /tg/

games involving real thought and strategy belong here on /sci/, the thinking man's board.

[Anonymous No.6378547]

>>6374503
>>6374807
>>6376169
>>6376210
for those interested in chess programming, the preliminary rounds of the sixth season of the TCEC is going on now

http://tcec.chessdom.com/live.php

[Anonymous No.6378559]

>>6378547
nice!

[Anonymous No.6378597]

>>6378559
Current match is two top contenders, Stockfish vs. Fire. The game is insane, both kings exposed with each side having queens and rooks! The kind of heart-pounding chess you only see between computers these days; top humans like Carlsen are too afraid to play chess like this.

[Anonymous No.6379578]

>>6376252
How do you know? Maybe she is posting here anonymously.

[Anonymous No.6379617]

>>6379578
I know 'cus she's dead, asshole.

[Anonymous No.6380363]

>>6378534
>chess
>involving real thought

1/10, any computer can play chess

[Anonymous No.6380374]

>>6380363
>math
>Involving real thought

1/10, any computer can do chess

[Anonymous No.6380454]

>>6374807
It actually sounds pretty interesting to be honest.

[Anonymous No.6380462]

>>6379617
Haha ..... not

[Anonymous No.6380473]

>>6380374
>computer
>involving real thought

1/10, any human can do computer

[Anonymous No.6380504]

>>6380473

>computer
>involving real chess

1/10 any thought can do computer

[Anonymous No.6380524]

>>6380504
>tfw chinese room

[Anonymous No.6380529]

>>6380524

>implying chinks can build room

[Anonymous No.6380531]

>>6380529
The room is actually built from chinks.

[particle420 No.6381020]

http://lichess.org/Mir7dGKG

[Anonymous No.6381051]

>>6376146
I guess. On the other hand, until you reach single digit kyu, I don't think there is any inherent merit in adopting a predetermined strategy. The orthodox is probably the best, sinc it isn't very complicated. Just adhering to standard opening theory, knowing where the big points are, and being able to judge what is sente and what isn't will get you very far.

[Anonymous No.6381056]

>>6381051
http://lichess.org/FGgsV6s0

[Anonymous No.6381092]

The fuck did he resign?!
http://en.lichess.org/Y7RyiMd8
We were playing 1+6.

[Anonymous No.6381120]

>>6381092
Great game there buddy.