THE STUPID, IT BURNS

[Anonymous No.6335687]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio

>I asked 22 self-identifying creationists at the Bill Nye/Ken Ham debate to write a message/question/note to the other side. Here’s what they wrote.

[Anonymous No.6335688]

[Anonymous No.6335691]

[Anonymous No.6335693]

Thanks, now I'm stupider.

[Anonymous No.6335694]

Can we nuke Kentucky?

[Anonymous No.6335695]

[Anonymous No.6335697]

Just kill me.

[Anonymous No.6335698]

Hey there is a book for them.

[Anonymous No.6335700]

>>6335697
if cakes come from bakeries why are their still bakeries??? checkmate athetits

[Anonymous No.6335701]

[Anonymous No.6335702]

I love the smug facial expressions. Real life "christians: 1, atheists: 0"

[Anonymous No.6335704]

[Anonymous No.6335705]

[Anonymous No.6335707]

There's that word again.

[Anonymous No.6335706]

>>6335688
>that smug face
my sides

[Anonymous No.6335708]

???

[Anonymous No.6335709]

THE SUN, YOU MORON

[Anonymous No.6335712]

[Anonymous No.6335713]

What is this even

[Anonymous No.6335715]

>>6335708
This one is actually a good question.

[Anonymous No.6335716]

>IT'S JUST A THEORY

[Anonymous No.6335717]

>>6335715
Yeah, what about it?

[Anonymous No.6335718]

[Anonymous No.6335721]

>>6335712
2/10, I lol'd

[Anonymous No.6335723]

lolwut

[Anonymous No.6335725]

[Anonymous No.6335726]

>OMG IT'S AMAZING

[Anonymous No.6335727]

>>6335716
It's taught as a theory? Cause there is actually factual evidence that supports the theory ? But it's still a theory ? The Big Bang was always defined as a theory in every textbook I was taught out of ?

[Anonymous No.6335728]

What star? What the fuck? Just, what....

[Anonymous No.6335730]

It's helpful to be reminded every once in a while that these people really exist and actually outnumber the "obnoxious atheist" type.

[Anonymous No.6335731]

Are you scared of the opposite?

[Anonymous No.6335735]

I have no words

[Anonymous No.6335737]

>>6335735
that's a legitimate question though

i mean, the answer is obviously yes, but any person with broad exposure to children should ask themselves that

[Anonymous No.6335739]

>>6335728
LMFAAAOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.6335744]

>>6335697
That's a troll, it has to be

[Anonymous No.6335746]

>>6335688
I thought that was Wil Wheaton for a minute there.

[Anonymous No.6335749]

this is the best thread IN THE WORLD

[Anonymous No.6335750]

>>6335746

>Isn't video game culture impossible without Felicia Day?

[Anonymous No.6335753]

>>6335704
WHERE AM I

[Anonymous No.6335754]

>If evolution were to explain where human beings come from, then every personality type should benefit human life. This is clearly untrue because the world is filled with liars, psychopaths, and murderers. These traits clearly do not benefit humanity.
>Evolution should lead to the extinction of homosexuality, yet to this day homosexuality continues to exist.

Christianity: 2
Evolutionists: 0

[Anonymous No.6335755]

>>6335691
wait what... but we can see trees and humans grow? Why would you believe the start was any different?

[Anonymous No.6335758]

>>6335754
3v3n tho the bibble prohibits a man laying with another broski

Pic related: me
>Christians: -200
> me: 1

[Anonymous No.6335759]

>>6335725
Ignoring the fact that the entire model has been constructed with evidence:
>I can't believe in this scientific fact because there's only one of it

[Anonymous No.6335756]

>Evolution i.e. proposed theory according to science
>starts by assuming we know nothing
>begins assuming everything that happens today would've happened since the 'beginning'
>makes theories based on observable shit

>Creation i.e. proposed theory according to Christianity
>starts by assuming the Bible is never wrong and is undeniable fact about everything
>begins assuming what happened in the beginning is different from what happens today and that is too undeniable, unprovable and true
>makes theories based on modern science


How can a creationist even can himself a scientist? Why didn't Bill Nye point it out?
Everything the creationist basically said was:

>science has flaws
>therefore Creationism is valid

[Anonymous No.6335760]

i just woke up, and this has already ruined my day.

[Anonymous No.6335762]

>>6335731
I'm scared of that chin.

Ugh, I hope a lovecraftian celestial being turns out to be the creator of the Universe, and has a complete indifference to human life and just destroys us all out of annoyance.

[Anonymous No.6335763]

>>6335725
>we need more, until we don't find a full civilization of Lucies I REFUSE to believe the Earth is more than a couple months old

>ALSO, Lucy, very similar to LUCIFER! COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT

[Anonymous No.6335764]

>Pleiotropy, the fact that a change of a single gene can have several different effects, renders the "improvement" of animals by random mutation impossible, as any mutation with a potentially beneficial effect will be coupled with one or more other potentially lethal effects

Still not seeing any factual evidence for the "theory" of evolution.

[Anonymous No.6335766]

>>6335764
>potentially

[Anonymous No.6335768]

I see now evidence that the Earth is more than 100 years old.

[Anonymous No.6335769]

>>6335764
Evolution =/= Improvement of Species

evolution is about adapting to an environment, not improving ones strength, intelligence, etc. There is no improvement in evolution, just change.

[Anonymous No.6335770]

>The current annual rate of extinction of species far exceeds any plausible rate of generation of species. Expanding the amount of time for evolution to occur makes evolution even less likely.
>Evolution predicts that human intelligence should increase over time, when in fact all evidence is that it is decreasing: declining SAT scores, shortening attention spans, and increasing mental problems.

[Anonymous No.6335771]

I feel like I'm losing hope for schools.

[Anonymous No.6335772]

If evolution is true, explain my dick.

[Anonymous No.6335775]

>>6335764
>Still not seeing any factual evidence for the "theory" of evolution.

How about the fact that mutations can change your DNA/genes in an unpredictable way?
And what about the fact that it will possible to create an organism from scratch as soon as you understand truly the code of life?

[Anonymous No.6335776]

>>6335770
Are you copypasting from Conservapedia?

[Anonymous No.6335779]

>tfw christian
>only reason for being one is it has good values in it and good sense of community

literally the only worthwhile reason for being a christian

[Anonymous No.6335780]

>>6335770
>People can build computers and aircraft
>Why are people less intelligent than the 1500s.

God, they are so dumb.

[Anonymous No.6335782]

>>6335770
>>Evolution predicts that human intelligence should increase over time, when in fact all evidence is that it is decreasing: declining SAT scores, shortening attention spans, and increasing mental problems.
Lol, disregarding the fact for a moment that evolution doesn't predict that at all, have you ever heard of the Flynn effect?

[Anonymous No.6335783]

>>6335727
Evolution does not necessarily mean that the big bang happened.

But having this debate is an obvious waste of everyones time

[Anonymous No.6335785]

>>6335771
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

[Anonymous No.6335786]

>>6335770
>>The current annual rate of extinction of species far exceeds any plausible rate of generation of species. Expanding the amount of time for evolution to occur makes evolution even less likely.
>what is man
We could wipe out the entire planet in one single week if we wanted to.
>>Evolution predicts that human intelligence should increase over time, when in fact all evidence is that it is decreasing: declining SAT scores, shortening attention spans, and increasing mental problems.
Is this even serious.

[Anonymous No.6335787]

>>6335785
No. 0/10

[Anonymous No.6335788]

>>6335770
>One year of SAT scores going down counters the millions of inventions that have been created throughout time.

Why are christians so dumb? I'd like to find a guy in the 1500s be able to solve algebra or build a computer.

[Anonymous No.6335789]

>>6335779

If you don't believe the story then you're not a "christian," you're just culturally christian.

[Anonymous No.6335790]

>>6335786
He's copypasting garbage from Conservapedia
http://conservapedia.com/Counterexamples_to_Evolution

[Anonymous No.6335792]

>>6335788
Earth is only 6000 years old, not millions.

[Anonymous No.6335793]

>>6335789
No true Christian?

[Anonymous No.6335794]

> No other animal exhibits religion. A far better explanation than random mutations is that humans were given the capacity to be religious by a loving God who wants a relationship with His creations.

[Anonymous No.6335797]

>>6335779
This 100%. You don't even need to believe in God to be a good Christian. Your Heaven is right here, right now, and it's all depending on what you do to others.

>b-but my Flood and the Ark
Do people like this reproduce today? I was surprised to see how many people actually have that theory in their minds and honestly believe it.

[Anonymous No.6335798]

>>6335792
Any proof?

>I created this 6000 figure from out of my ass using bible passages that I don't take literally half the time anyway.

[Anonymous No.6335799]

>>6335793

Not how that fallacy works, but nice try.

[Anonymous No.6335800]

I don't get how they can just completely disregard science over the smallest thing.
The whole point of science is that in essence its a learning process, they point out one theory that was proven wrong 70 years ago as proof science is all wrong.
But it was science that proved that theory wrong, its not like science is one fucking person, its just humanity pushing through trying to make better sense of everything.

>that theory was wrong 70 years ago, see science is wrong
>how does that prove god is real?
>because science was wrong
>but what about the holes in the bible, if I point out something wrong is the bible does that mean you will drop your whole faith?
>No because god works in mysterious ways

Fuck it, its not even religion that is the problem its people, I know plenty of atheists who skip all science up until quantum mechanics, read an article on it and somehow come up with a theory of the universe.

[Anonymous No.6335802]

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

>mfw this thread

[Anonymous No.6335803]

>>6335694
God damn this one rustled my jimmies.

[Anonymous No.6335804]

>>6335797
>You don't even need to believe in God to be a good Christian.

wut

[Anonymous No.6335806]

>>6335789
Well good, and everyone should be only culturally christian. It's really disturbing to see so many people believe in Adam and Eve and all that bullshit.
Fucking hell even I had Christianity classes in Elementary for 2-3 years and I was taught that as a metaphorical tale, made up by people in a time where there was not much knowledge.

[Anonymous No.6335807]

>>6335797
>You don't even need to believe in God to be a good Christian
By definition you literally have to, but you don't have to believe in god to be a good person.

[Anonymous No.6335810]

>>6335804
It's true. Is Jesus gonna punish me if I do everything he taught us but I just happen to not believe in him?

[Anonymous No.6335813]

>>6335728
HAHAHAHAHAHA HO MY GOD

[Anonymous No.6335820]

>>6335705
I don't have a problem with this one.

[Anonymous No.6335821]

>mfw this thread

[Anonymous No.6335825]

The only God I need to know about, is the God-Emperor of mankind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNc242mbiUs

[Anonymous No.6335834]

>>6335820
I do. It's a good question, but "Don't bother trying to find an answer, God did it" is an incredibly shitty attitude.

[Anonymous No.6335841]

>>6335697
This guy's just fucking around. I doubt he's a creationist.

[Anonymous No.6335842]

>>6335687
>their

[Anonymous No.6335851]

>>6335694
This one is the best.

[Anonymous No.6335860]

>>6335712
I thinks there is nothing wrong with this one.

[Anonymous No.6335863]

>>6335737
This. "What rocks the cradle" etc.

[Anonymous No.6335865]

>>6335688
Did these people even listen to Bill, or did they just drown him out? Bill explained exactly why this was wrong...

I am just going to assume this was taken before the debate, right?

[Anonymous No.6335867]

number 12 is my type of girl

[Anonymous No.6335868]

>>6335704
Sad thing is my brother actually believed this sort of thing when I came out as an atheist. I wish I could say this was a troll.

[Anonymous No.6335871]

>>6335810
>Is Jesus gonna punish me if I do everything he taught us but I just happen to not believe in him?

You'd have to ask him. But what does that have to do with anything? A "Christian" isn't just someone who is nice to other people or whatever, it's someone who believes in the Christian religion.

[Anonymous No.6335874]

Why do they somehow think thermodynamics "debunks" evolution?

I'm really confused at that one.

[Anonymous No.6335878]

>>6335874
because they don't understand how it works

'it' can mean anything in that sentence

[Anonymous No.6335880]

>>6335871
Who is the skateboarder?, the man who performs the tricks even tough he doesn't believe in them?, or the man who believes in the tricks but doesn't perform them?

[Anonymous No.6335881]

why does bill nye even bother discussing with ham?

[Anonymous No.6335886]

I'm pretty sure all the pictures you've posted are just BuzzFeed employees.

[Anonymous No.6335887]

>>6335880

wut

[Anonymous No.6335888]

Real-life examples of the trolling on /sci/.
I sincerely think the civil war should have ended the other way, why do I have to share a country with these idiots who reap the benefits of science but try to discredit and defund it any way they can?

[Anonymous No.6335891]

>>6335694
Hahahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.6335896]

>>6335687
>>6335688
>>6335691
>>6335694
>>6335695
>>6335697
>>6335701
>>6335704
>>6335705
etc. etc.

These people are all irl trolls....right?

[Anonymous No.6335898]

>>6335880
>the man who performs the tricks even tough he doesn't believe in them

what the fuck am i reading

[Anonymous No.6335900]

>>6335896
>These people are all irl trolls....right?

Nope.

>Since 1982, between 40% and 50% of adults in the United States say they hold the creationist view that "God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years" when Gallup asked for their views on the origin and development of human beings.[9] A 2011 Gallup survey reports that 30% of U.S. adults say they interpret the Bible literally.[10]

[Anonymous No.6335901]

>>6335880
This retard actually thinks that Christian is a synonym of "good person".

[Anonymous No.6335906]

>>6335888
>implying everyone who advances science or technology is atheist
>not willing to accept the fact that most of our scientific advances and technological breakthroughs came from theists.

fw im agnostic but your bullshit is so overpowering I need to sprinkle some oxyclean in your eyes

[Anonymous No.6335907]

>>6335900
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl0Ys3DS870

[Anonymous No.6335910]

>>6335907
0:07 LOL he's carrying it wrong.

[Anonymous No.6335912]

>>6335906
There's a difference between being a theist and a drooling retard, which these messages clearly describe.

[Anonymous No.6335923]

>>6335810
Yes. That's the explicitly stated rule for salvation you dummy. You've gotta be trolling, but if you're not, why label yourself as something you disagree with? And you can't possibly say the bible is a good source of morals. It says to kill people for the stupidest shit. If you aren't killing people for those reasons, your morals came from somewhere else, and you just try to make your interpretation of the bible fit the beliefs you already have.

[Anonymous No.6335942]

where do these people come from? i can't believe this "60% of americans are creationist" bullshit. i've literally never even heard of someone being a creationist and i'm from a red state

[Anonymous No.6335951]

>>6335942

It's 30%. And you probably know a lot of people who are without realizing it. It's not like you discuss religious beliefs with everyone you know, is it?

[Anonymous No.6335961]

>>6335786
>We could wipe out the entire planet in one single week if we wanted to.
Nope.

[Anonymous No.6335965]

>>6335961
You totally proved him wrong.

[Anonymous No.6335967]

>>6335786
Madagascar would just shut down everything and ride it out.

[Anonymous No.6335972]

>>6335967
You don't need a seaport to drop an atomic bomb.
Fuck Pandemic.
>only one seaport and airport per country

[Anonymous No.6335975]

>>6335965
I did not want to prove him wrong, nor do I want to be a part of this religious debate, I'm just saying we can't wipe out the entire planet. Even with all of our nuclear weapons combined, we can't even destroy an asteroid big enough, let alone the Earth. Also we haven't even discovered all the different species on earth, and some extremophiles have been known to be able to survive and reproduce in space, with no gravity, close to absolute zero, and with no radiation shielding. That's it.

[Anonymous No.6335977]

the only legitimate, not pants-on-head-retarded question on the buzzfeed article is the first one (if you construe it as an opportunity to explain why teaching children scientific principles is a positive influence), and it's not even science related.

[Anonymous No.6335983]

>>6335975
Are you trying to be dense? We can't explode the Earth like a Vogon Constructor Fleet, but we can nuke it so badly that nothing besides bacteria are left.

[Anonymous No.6335988]

>>6335975
but we could easily destriy these places
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_agglomerations_by_population_%28United_Nations%29

tha would be a good beginning.
Humankind could faces some difficulty to survive then

[Anonymous No.6336007]

>>6335728
>the exploding star
Toppest kek

[Anonymous No.6336010]

>>6335718
Has anyone got an answer for this one? I can answer all the other questions (except for the nonsensical ones and the philosophical ones), but I don't know this one.

[Anonymous No.6336011]

>>6335983
If a giant rock and billions of bacteria are left, then we didn't "wipe out" the planet.
>>6335988
It would certainly be a good beginning, but what about what's left of the planet?

[Anonymous No.6336012]

>>6336010

duplication + mutation
absorption of virus DNA
etc.

[Anonymous No.6336014]

>>6335718

[Anonymous No.6336016]

>>6335701
Infinity yingxi

[Anonymous No.6336018]

>>6336010
Different species have a different number of chromosomes in their cells. This surely means that the length of DNA chains can increase or decrease across the breadth of biological life. Therefore, information is added.

[Anonymous No.6336019]

>>6335691

[Anonymous No.6336022]

>>6335688

[Anonymous No.6336023]

Dammit people it's spelled "there"!!! "Their" is possessive you half wits!!

No wonder these people are creationists

[Anonymous No.6336025]

>>6335691
He's right though. It is possible that God created the universe 10 minutes ago and made it exactly as it would be after billions of years. There is no scientific way to disprove this.

[Anonymous No.6336024]

>>6335687

[Anonymous No.6336029]

>>6336018
That doesn't sound right. As soon as some human x mutates to have 24 chromosome pairs, it cannot mate with other humans, right? This mutation has to die with x.

[Anonymous No.6336030]

>>6335731

[Anonymous No.6336026]

>>6335687
I contest that the earth is only 5 hours old. When I woke up this morning it was created fully formed along with you and me and our supposed memories. All the isotopes and rocks where just created that way. Sadly it will all be destroyed when I go to bed tonight so enjoy life while you can and stop worrying about what other people believe.

[Anonymous No.6336032]

After reading this thread, I'm not sure if I really have the nerves to watch that incoming Bill Nye and that other faggot debate. And I'm not sure if Bill knows what he's got himself into.

[Anonymous No.6336035]

>>6336025
But why would one want to worship such an intentionally deceptive god?

Either way the Christian loses with that argument, so it is better left unsaid.

[Anonymous No.6336037]

>>6336024
>implying she knows that the stars orbit the earth
To her it's probably a "lights on lights off, the stars are fixed in the sky type thing".

[Anonymous No.6336040]

Well to be fair the big bang theroy has yet to be proven

[Anonymous No.6336041]

>>6335725
In fairness to this guy, these anthropology claims are pretty weak. They find a few bones and speculate and extrapolate, then overstate their certainty.

[Anonymous No.6336050]

This is some real jaden smith level stupid

[Anonymous No.6336053]

>>6336035
Believing God created the universe gives hope to people. Hope for an afterlife. Hope to some deeper meaning to life. I don't see how it is a losing argument. Just makes the problem go away and allows continued faith.

[Anonymous No.6336058]

those pics are all shopped?right?please

[Anonymous No.6336059]

>>6336035
Greeks and romans worshiped worse gods than that. Angry vengeful apathetic gods.

[Anonymous No.6336063]

>>6336053
>Just makes the problem go away and allows continued faith.

Sounds like escapism. Marche doesn't approve.

[Anonymous No.6336065]

>>6336053
>Hope for an afterlife.
>tfw no afterlife

[Anonymous No.6336072]

>>6336029
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organisms_by_chromosome_count

[Anonymous No.6336076]

>>6335723
That fucking argument. It's so pointless.
Is life after the salvation meaningless?

[Anonymous No.6336077]

>>6336029
Then the mutation survives only if many individuals mutated the same way or they don't care about incest.

[Anonymous No.6336078]

>>6336053
But the person using that argument is saying: "my God is deceiving me. he created a universe that appears far older than it really is. I don't know why god did this, but I do know that it must have been a deliberate deception. Because I know that my god deliberately works to deceive me I am unsure what else my god is lying to be about ."

No amount of theological tap dancing can get around the fact that once you admit it is possible for your god to be actively deceptive, it is impossible to know what else your god begin deceptive to you about.

Why would anyone want to worship a god that lies and cannot be trusted?

[Anonymous No.6336082]

>>6335731
No
>>6335735
Yes

[Anonymous No.6336083]

>>6336059
no one really worships them any more do they? (except autistic neopagans)

[Anonymous No.6336088]

>>6336014
>>6336016
>>6336019
>>6336022
>>6336024
>>6336030

Holy shit guy, you have made my day

[Anonymous No.6336091]

>>6335723
We are a living creature just like any other. There's no grand purpose for our lives. Isn't the wonderful fact that all these coincidences happened to get us where we are marvelous enough? Why the need to adorn it with magic and fairy tales?

[Anonymous No.6336092]

>>6336088
You're welcome, mang. Glad you like it.

[Anonymous No.6336097]

>>6336025
But there's no scientific way to prove it either, so why even bother?

Science measures what can be measured, anything not measurable is irrelevant to science.

[Anonymous No.6336101]

>>6336078
I don't think so. A God that's deceptive is the least of their worries. "Mysterious ways" and all, you know. If they can mesh the horrible pain and suffering that some experience in life with a "loving God", then the rest is easy.

[Anonymous No.6336102]

>>6336083
>>6336059
Any god that tells you to kill your first born, only to tell you he was just kidding seconds before you do it is a douche to me.

[Anonymous No.6336103]

So is Ken Ham the greatest money grubbing ruse man of modern society?

[Anonymous No.6336105]

>>6336053
I'd rather acknowledge life will end and live it to the fullest than live a dull life expecting something better after it.

[Anonymous No.6336108]

>>6336103
Don't know, is he the head of the scientology church?

[Anonymous No.6336107]

>>6335942
I met one once. In the Navy. Shocked the shit out of me

[Anonymous No.6336110]

>>6336105
Imagine I posted that "why not both" taco girl. I'm to lazy to find it.

[Anonymous No.6336113]

>>6335754
In some ways I think this is just another way of asking why X still exists if Y evolved out of it.

Whatever the case, those traits you mentioned may not benefit humanity as a whole but in certain cases they benefit individuals, allowing them to survive long enough to pass on their genes to their offspring. In some of those cases the negative traits are passed on genetically, in others they are passed on in the upbringing. Either way they are perpetuated.

[Anonymous No.6336114]

God isn't the answer. It just deepens the question. If one can not believe an entity came to be without intervention. Then how did God appeared? Someone else must have created him?

Multiple turtles?

[Anonymous No.6336115]

>>6336108
Good point

[Anonymous No.6336119]

>>6336053
>hope
>If you don't do exactly as I say you will suffer eternal torment
>mfw people make loopholes for ideas that don't make sense in the first place

[Anonymous No.6336120]

>>6335754

see >>6335769

[Anonymous No.6336122]

>>6336110
Because the heaven and hell thing would stop you from doing things you could do out of fear.

[Anonymous No.6336124]

>>6335772
Your dick is the product of an evolutionary trend to make things smaller so that they need less resources and can hide easier.

[Anonymous No.6336126]

>>6336113
Why do Jews exist if Christians came out of them

[Anonymous No.6336134]

>>6335687

there !
sunset has nothing to do with god. just planets and shadow/light

>>6335688
We are not in a closed system, and in a closed system evolution can still exist.

>>6335691
Ive bad news if this is your best argument

>>6335694
You confused science with supernatural.

>>6335695
Depends on what you define as faith.

>>6335697
If water in the sea comes from rivers, why do we still have rivers?

>>6335701
And your point is..?

>>6335704
Because they find it more likely that alienlife created life, rather than an omnipotent god? So far best argument

>>6335705
Finally, a reasonable question. It might well be by chance.

>>6335707
There is no objectivity per se in life, other than that at some point you live and at some point you die.

>>6335708
You try to attribute qualities and reasons to things, but can not prove any of it exists or is intrinsic to anything.

>>6335709
Not a closed system. Please read more.

>>6335712
Cant argue with that.

>>6335713
One doesnt exclude the other

>>6335716
Because you can test a theory. You cant test creationism or the bible (or actually.. )

>>6335718
Define genetic information. Just by trial and error, a genetic structure can evolve and persist (otherwise it will die out).

>>6335723
I feel sorry for you if your only purpose in life is to believe in a salvation that is proclaimed by other people who have not undergone said salvation.

[Anonymous No.6336136]

>>6336126
Why does your mom exist if you came out of her?

[Anonymous No.6336138]

>>6336041
That guy is retarded. At one site alone (AL333), there are over 200 Australopith fossils from at least 13 different individuals. Not to mention all of the other fossils representing other species of Australopith, as well as the many other hominins.

[Anonymous No.6336145]

>>6335704
>huminists
>their
>terestrial
What do you have against basic spelling and grammar?

[Anonymous No.6336155]

>>6335725
Because we have not found the others? Because preserving bodies for extensive periods of time is really hard?

>>6335726
Good point. Most of the things around you in the civilized world was thought of and created. But some things just came to be.

>>6335728
Please reread big bang theory

>>6335731
No. If god is evil, then no matter what I will do.. I will suffer. If god is good, then he will do good no matter what. If good is only good if im good according to your standards, then he is not benovelent and a trickster.

>>6335735
Good question. But this can be asked about anything.
I sincerely hope most of these people are just trolling. Otherwise, I can not help but pity them for growing up in such a odd place and deprived of proper education.

[Anonymous No.6336156]

Exploitable mimi.
I would call her "stupid creationist woman" but that would be redundant.

[Anonymous No.6336157]

>>6335713
This is the only one that feels like a genuine question. The rest are just snide remarks that showcase their scientific illiteracy.

[Anonymous No.6336158]

>>6336134
Define define. Also, keep you're autism in check .

[Anonymous No.6336162]

>>6336124
checkmate christians

[Anonymous No.6336165]

>>6336156
Nice, but this guy has the best smug face
>>6335688

[Anonymous No.6336166]

>>6336134
You so mad bro

[Anonymous No.6336173]

>>6335701
This just goes to show that these people never actually consider any evidence/arguments from the opposing side. She only knows about Lucy because the creation museum has an exhibit with her arguing that she wasn't actually our ancestor. What the creationists neglected to tell this woman is that there are tons of transitional hominin species discovered so far, some of which (like Nariokotome Boy) are more complete than Lucy.

[Anonymous No.6336176]

>>6335688
Do not questions poorly formulated the inquirer make idiotic seem?

[Anonymous No.6336188]

>>6335688
>Does not the Second Law of Thermodynamics disprove Evolution?

Readjust a couple of words and its:

>The Second Law of Thermodynamics does not disprove Evolution

It's a hidden message. He's just trolling you guys.

[Anonymous No.6336196]

>>6336134
>So far best argument
Until you begin to wonder where they came from. Aliens is a retarded idea for where life came from.

[Anonymous No.6336198]

>>6335723

Pussy, money, weed

[Anonymous No.6336201]

>>6336134
>If water in the sea comes from rivers, why do we still have rivers?
Your counterargument isn't even necessary, what the guy's saying is incorrect in the first place. We didn't evolve from monkeys.

[Anonymous No.6336203]

>>6336165
Here you go.

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>>6336203
i want to cut his fucking face off

[Anonymous No.6336211]

>>6336203
awww yisssse

[Anonymous No.6336212]

>>6336211
Better make good on your desires and get me some I.M. Memes

[Anonymous No.6336216]

>>6335770

IF human intelligence is scaling down it's probably due more to our reliance on technology than anything else.

But I think you're bullshitting anyway

[Anonymous No.6336215]

>>6336204

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>>6336145
It's 2014 and grammer still bothers you.
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>grammer

[Anonymous No.6336234]

>tfw live in a country without tons of creationists

Feels good man

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>>6336203

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>>6336222
I was also going to complain about his penmanship and the askew nature of the drawstring on his jacket.

[Anonymous No.6336251]

>>6336215
Sorry. I suck at photoshop.

[Anonymous No.6336261]

>>6335704

>their

No, I'm pretty sure I'm not a god.

[Anonymous No.6336265]

>>6336022
well, this doesn't disprove his point.

to cite http://2ndlaw.oxy.edu/evolution.html

>Energetically, the second law of thermodynamics favors the formation of the majority of all known complex and ordered chemical compounds directly from their simpler elements. Thus, contrary to popular opinion, the second law does not dictate the decrease of ordered structure by its predictions. It only demands a "spreading out" of energy when such ordered compounds are formed spontaneously.

[valjean !!4SOyPF0IuOv No.6336266]

[Anonymous No.6336269]

>>6336134

Who are you giving these answers to? I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread could have answered those questions much better than you did.

[Anonymous No.6336278]

>>6335694

B-but, please don't nuke Kentucky.
I live here, we're not all like this.
I mean, you could nuke Louisville, that'd be fine. Since I have a seat in the hills ready to watch the otherskins perish.

[valjean !!4SOyPF0IuOv No.6336282]

>>6336278
>nest in the hills

[Anonymous No.6336293]

>>6335731
She looks like she'll mongle your cock if you stand too close.

[Anonymous No.6336297]

ITT: Evolution and science get BTFO

[Anonymous No.6336301]

teblöl, apparently america is full of retards

no wonder you spy so much on us
you simply do not know what to do next


captcha: recipients riodsUSA

[Anonymous No.6336302]

>>6335723

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>>6336010

Horizontal gene transfer is pretty epic. There were billions of years of mutation, selection and gene transfer before the Cambrian explosion, so that's a lot of time to create a lot of information.

[Anonymous No.6336304]

>>6335687
I think we are not ready to make it into space and mars...

[Anonymous No.6336307]

>>6335697
He's definitely taking the piss

[Anonymous No.6336309]

Jesus christ

Get it the fuck together Amerifats

[Anonymous No.6336373]

>>6336203

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>>6336203
Thank you based anon.

[Anonymous No.6336401]

> this thread

[Anonymous No.6336423]

>>6335691
this is at least an interesting one to think about. good for this guy

[Anonymous No.6336425]

>>6336078
probably the same reasons that battered wives stay with their abusive husbands.

[Anonymous No.6336431]

Exploitable 3

[Anonymous No.6336435]

>>6336431

[Anonymous No.6336436]

>>6335726
Exploitable 4

[Anonymous No.6336442]

>>6336431

[Anonymous No.6336443]

I believe in God and science

[Anonymous No.6336446]

>>6336442
asked for it.

[Anonymous No.6336447]

>>6335716
>hurr durr just a theory, not real
This made me shudder.
Imagine people saying:
>THEORY of gravity... we shouldn't teach it as fact, it's just a theory.

[Anonymous No.6336448]

>>6336436

[Anonymous No.6336456]

>>6335687
>this is what /pol/ actually believes

[Anonymous No.6336477]

>>6336203

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>>6335725
Birds!

[Anonymous No.6336482]

>>6336481
Exploita-bull

[Anonymous No.6336486]

>>6336156
running out of ideas

[Anonymous No.6336483]

>>6335728
>>6335725
>>6335716
>>6335709
>>6335704
>>6335701
>>6335695
>>6335694
these are just too much

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>>6336486
Just put the daily /sci/ trolling in the picture and call it a day

[Anonymous No.6336500]

>>6336490
that's right mugi

only cake now

[Anonymous No.6336509]

>>6336482

[Anonymous No.6336519]

>>6336203

[Anonymous No.6336524]

>>6335797
>Do people like this reproduce today?
Of course they do. The big religions are like viruses. They infect people and make them reproduce a lot then they get transmitted to the offspring.
Those cultural viruses were shaped by evolution. They're cultural parasites. Not that there's anything bad with that, it's just neat.

[Anonymous No.6336533]

>>6336203

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>>6335687
Have you ever wondered how maltesers are all perfectly round and chocolaty?
They all have a chocolate coating, yet no indication of being on a solid surface. Almost like the chocolate was put on it while floating..
Go ahead, check all the maltesers in the world. There's not a dent in any of them.

Checkm8, atheists.

[Anonymous No.6336538]

>>6336533
bretty gud, saved

[valjean !!4SOyPF0IuOv No.6336539]

>>6336535
go on...

[Anonymous No.6336542]

>>6336535
I'm ready to be indoctrinated now

[Anonymous No.6336543]

It's you, OP. You are the reason so many people still don't believe in evolution. These people have been taught all their lives to think a certain way, and when they're given an opportunity to ask questions, they don't get them answered because the "scientific" community is too busy making fun of them, and calling them idiots. Obviously they're misguided, but you are not fucking helping.

[Anonymous No.6336547]

Question for creationists if there are any of you here on /sci/:

If evolution isn't real, how do you explain why black people are so much less intelligent than other racial groups?

[Anonymous No.6336549]

>>6336524
Dawkins pls go. Religious communities have been shown to have an evolutionary benefit on the group level.

>Do people like this reproduce today?
It's such a silly question, really. Reproduction is not related to your subjective valuations of intelligence.

>You don't even need to believe in God to be a good Christian.
Most people certainly do. Comparably, an individual who does not enjoy having sex will probably not have many children.

[Anonymous No.6336550]

>>6336535
You have a point..

[Anonymous No.6336557]

>>6336535

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>>6336547
staying too long in the sun burns brain cells.

[Anonymous No.6336574]

>>6336547
Curse of Ham

[Anonymous No.6336580]

>>6336535

[Anonymous No.6336582]

>>6336535
I can't argue with that...

[Anonymous No.6336583]

>>6336543
Find me one creationist that is genuinely curious about evolution, I dare you.
>>6336549
Viral =/= always bad

[Anonymous No.6336590]

>>6336547
God does not like black people.
Checkmate faggot

[Anonymous No.6336592]

>>6336583
This is what you said:
>[Religions] are cultural parasites.
Since we are their hosts, it follows from your logic religions are always bad (to us). As I pointed out, the data points in the opposite direction.

[Anonymous No.6336609]

>believe in evolution
Scientism; nuff sed.

[Anonymous No.6336611]

>>6336592
Not him, and the ideas of "good" and "bad" are not quantifiable.
If nobody was religious they might be more depressed and withdrawn, but less gullible. They could also be more excited and motivated at this one chance at life. Atheists are disproportionately underrepresented in prison, what does that say?
Ideas are memes, and the most successful ones prey on people's insecurities. How it is manifested could be the crusades or a charity.

[Anonymous No.6336619]

>>6335687
It's painful to think i'm of the same species as the people in this link.

can we please have a holocaust for these people, their detrimental to the evolution of society.

[Anonymous No.6336622]

>>6335718
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation#By_effect_on_function
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insertion_%28genetics%29
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosomal_translocation
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_Information
Oh look that last article doesn't have a page, please be more careful with your use of language in the future.

[Anonymous No.6336629]

>>6336611
>Not him, and the ideas of "good" and "bad" are not quantifiable.
Please. We are talking about parasites in an evolutionary context.
>Atheists are disproportionately underrepresented in prison, what does that say?
Blacks are disproportionately overrepresented in prison, what does that say? Hint: the two are closely related. You to say that good and bad are not quantifiable, so I don't understand why you bring this up unless you were intentionally being dense.
>Ideas are memes, and the most successful ones prey on people's insecurities. How it is manifested could be the crusades or a charity.
The most successful memes are the ones that have the highest differential reproduction. A parasitic meme could be tremendously successful in the short-term, but its proponents would dwindle in the long term. Cultural traits make for some of the best examples of memes that were successful in the long term.

[Anonymous No.6336630]

>>6335728

Oh come the fuck on, what?

[Anonymous No.6336633]

>>6336535
Could someone de-bunk the maltesers are divine creations theory?
I'm pretty fucking stumped

[Anonymous No.6336635]

>>6336629
>You to say that good and bad are not quantifiable,
You said*

I think the argument that atheists are underrepresented in American prisons is comparable to making fun of Republican states for having low average IQs or HDIs or something similar.

[Anonymous No.6336636]

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>>6336535
I legitimately can't even imagine how they are made..

[Anonymous No.6336648]

>>6336309
>Amerifats
Amerifats.
Dude, I love you.

[Anonymous No.6336651]

>>6335975
>extremophiles
illegal in the UK

[L'ambassadeur de la Reddit(...) No.6336652]

>>6336648
You'll certainly love Le Reddit, then!

[Anonymous No.6336655]

>>6336309
Jesus Christ when did Jon become half-frog?

[Anonymous No.6336667]

>>6336535
I'm a malteser checker. That means my job is to look at maltesers and throw them out if they're flawed. Believe me, we throw a lot out.
If we try to eat any we're fired by the way. Life truly is suffering.

[Anonymous No.6336674]

>>6336667
Y-you can't even eat the flawed ones?

W-why?

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[Anonymous No.6336680]

>>6336674
My boss works in mysterious ways.
A while back one of us left and joined some other company to make Whoppers. People have said they get to eat the defective ones.

[Anonymous No.6336688]

>>6336680
Man, that sucks.

Stupid-ass rules are to be broken, though. So you should walk to the line of maltesers, eat whatever the fuck you wish to eat and when a manager comes over to hand you a notice, you wipe your ass with it, shove it into the guy's throat, piss on his face, and then as an icing on the cake you go to his house and you eat his children, too.

Or something.

[Anonymous No.6336689]

>>6336509
This one is pretty legit. If evolutionists actually believe their theories they would be in gyms getting ripped to attract mates and spread their genes.

[Anonymous No.6336698]

>>6335700
>checkmate athetits
>athetits

[Anonymous No.6336700]

>>6335800
closet atheist here

I have to pretend to be a christian and make those "god works in mysterious ways" arguments to others in front of my family or I'll get kicked out of my house (they'd kick me out if they knew I was an atheist)


They see science as requiring as much faith as religion, and refuse to do any research other than googling "why evolution is wrong"

it's a dark mentality

[Anonymous No.6336701]

>>6335715
>This one is actually a good question.
No question beginning with "What about" is a good question, and no comment beginning with "This one" is a good comment.

[Anonymous No.6336704]

>>6335886
Someone got a phd for rolling objects?

[Anonymous No.6336706]

>>6335727
Lrn2theory

[Anonymous No.6336709]

your votes are cancelled out by these people

[Anonymous No.6336712]

>>6336709
>> votes matter in America

[Anonymous No.6336713]

>>6336543
>and when they're given an opportunity to ask questions, they don't get them answered because the "scientific" community is too busy making fun of them, and calling them idiots.

A few things.

1) That whole debate was a guy explaining evidence for evolution, not ridiculing anyone. (Well, barely.)
2) There are no legit creationists on /sci/, so nobody will even be aware they are being made fun of.
3) If they legitimately wanted to ask questions, there are loads of resources online for them to easily get answers. Even reading the Wikipedia article on evolution would answer most of these questions. The only conclusion to draw is that they're not interested in real answers.

[Anonymous No.6336716]

>>6336700
here

>>6336713
I can attest to your third point. They don't want to learn about evolution, but rather to discredit it without knowing it.When they ask questions, it's not to further their understanding of an opposing view point, but to find a convenient point to disagree with.

[Anonymous No.6336720]

>>6336134
>>6336155

Stop. The secondhand embarrassment is too much to handle.

[Anonymous No.6336721]

>>6336240
Fucking crying

[Anonymous No.6336740]

>>6335697
This guy looks like he knows what he's doing

[Anonymous No.6336744]

I will pray for you atheists. Jesus still loves you with all his heart. Can I get an amen?

[Anonymous No.6336748]

>>6336744
May the god bless you my son.
Amen

[Anonymous No.6336758]

>>6335712
this one is 10/10

[Anonymous No.6336760]

>>6336744
You pray for me? I'll THINK for you.

[Anonymous No.6336780]

Holy crap.
Most of these are pretty much based on a fundamental misunderstanding of evolution or other scientific fields.
I mean there are some questions that might be debatable, but these are fucking ridiculous.
And to have the fucking nerve to go out and make these claims.
Seriously, I'm not gonna stand infront of a new car and claim that it won't work when I no absolutely fuck all about its engineering. If they are actually interested in the subject, they should read a few books about it. But I guess there's only one book they are willing to read

[Anonymous No.6336781]

Depressing statistics incoming

[Anonymous No.6336800]

>>6336447
>THEORY of gravity

[Anonymous No.6336814]

My responses:

1. Of course he is.
2. That's really weak.
3. Yes, it's completely illogical.
4. No, it doesn't. Stop spinning Thermodynamics to fit your agenda.
5. What is "the Earth spinning on it's axis", Alex.
6. They don't. Stop with the spin-doctoring already.
7. What about it?
8. We create our own "meaning of life", how about you go get yours?
9. THAT'S WHAT SCIENCE WANTS TO DISCOVER, DAMNIT!
10. That would be cute if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.
11. Who said we did?
12. Science has *some* proof; you have *no* proof. Deal with it.
13. I dunno, does it? I have no take on this.
14. If your head wasn't in your ass all the time, you might have noticed that we've witnessed evolution happening. Also: Flu virii evolve quickly, if YOU haven't noticed.
15. Lady, you apparently don't understand Scientific Method at all. Oh and by the way challenging scientific theories is built into the process, we don't threaten people will Hellfire and Damnation for questioning things like you people do.
16. (this question needs someone with more knowledge than I currently have in order to answer)
17. My "purpose" is whatever I decide it is, not what YOU or ANYONE ELSE decides it is. Same goes for you. Problem?
18. What's the point of your question, anyway?
19. Saying "I think the Big Bang Theory is correct" is not the same as saying "I have FAITH in the Big Bang theory", and even though I know that religion is all about spin-doctoring things to mean whatever you want them to mean, KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF, Nimrod.
20. How can you look at the Universe and believe that ONE ENTITY is responsible for all of it? It's TOO AMAZING!
21. We're trying to figure that out. While we're doing that, how about you tell me: "WHERE DID GOD COME FROM?", and don't tell me "He was always here" or I'll slap the shit out of you.
22. Why does a tree have branches instead of just growing straight up like a flagpole? Please, bother yourself to at least TRY to understand what you're bashing, OK?

[Anonymous No.6336818]

>>6335707
This confuses me. Is God's meaning in life not subjective as well?

[Anonymous No.6336824]

>>6336818
If you're one of the poop-eaters then you believe that we're here exclusively as part of "God's Plan" and any deviation from that makes your a Bad Person. You ask me, it amounts to slavery.

[Anonymous No.6336833]

>>6336781
humans are dumb.

[Anonymous No.6336845]

>>6335880
I think you should reread whatever passage of Kierkegaard's you skimmed to inspire this post.

[Anonymous No.6336848]

>>6335728
I think I know why he thought the Big Bang was an exploding star.

During Bill Nye's explanation he said that elements are formed in exploding stars so he must have assumed that the big bang was was the result of an exploding star.

[Anonymous No.6336843]

>>6336025
You dug yourself a hole. If there is no scientific way to disprove something, then it is not a scientific statement.

[Anonymous No.6336852]

>>6336833
good thing we're martians, right?

[Anonymous No.6336853]

>>6336781
Jesus Christ Amerifats, get it together.

[Anonymous No.6336875]

>>6336549
>Religious communities have been shown to have an evolutionary benefit on the group level.
Neat.
I'm not contradicting that, fertility seems to be a good part of sexual selection, and that might override any other selecting effects.
Religions exist because humans practice them, the oldest religions are obviously doing something right (ie adapted) if they still exist, much like living organisms.
Sorry if I used the wrong word, they might not be parasites then, only in symbiosis.

[Anonymous No.6337052]

>>6336435
OH MY GOD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAar

[Anonymous No.6337254]

>>6336456
pol is trying to save you from the vast hordes of savage peoples and ideologies approaching to kill you so you can keep advancing human intellect

[Anonymous No.6337321]

>>6335687
Fuck Creationism. Why is intelligent design so impossible?

[Anonymous No.6337388]

Religion doesn't care if it is provable. Nor does it care if it is not science. Science cannot answer all questions

[Anonymous No.6337608]

>/sci/
>muh conservative values
>surprised to find that so many Americans are buttfuck stupid

Go fuck yourselves.

[Anonymous No.6337885]

>>6335731
Hello David.

[Anonymous No.6338198]

>>6335688
WRONG

biological evolution however, the system being considered is not the universe, but the Earth. And the Earth is not an isolated system. This means that an increase in order can occur on Earth as long as there is an energy input — most notably the light of the sun. Therefore, energy input from the sun could give rise to the increase in order on Earth including complex molecules and organisms. At the same time, the sun becomes increasingly disordered as it emits energy to the Earth. Even though order may be increasing on Earth, the total order of the solar system and universe is still decreasing, and the second law is not violated.

Misapplication of The Second Law

To claim that evolution violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics is also grounded in a misunderstanding of where the law applies. Nobody has ever figured out how to apply the second law to living creatures. There is no meaning to the entropy of a frog. The kinds of systems that can be analyzed with the second law are much simpler.

A living organism is not so much a unified whole as it is a collection of subsystems. In the development of life, for example, a major leap occurred when cells mutated in such a way that they clumped together so that multicellular life was possible. A simple mutation allowing one cell to stick to other cells enabled a larger and more complex life form. However, such a transformation does not violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics any more than superglue violates the law when it sticks your fingers to the kitchen counter.

There are many examples of order arising from disorder in nature. Research conducted by Ilya Prigogine and others on systems far from equilibrium has shown that order can spontaneously arise in systems that are driven in the right way. It turns out that living systems are characterized as being far from equilibrium.

[Anonymous No.6338326]

>>6338198
Shit Sherlock, it's not like everyone here already figured that out yet.

[Anonymous No.6338370]

>>6335900
That's actually disgusting. I'm not trying to be some edgy fedorafag, but that's terrible.

[Loki No.6338577]

Top lel

[Anonymous No.6338580]

>>6335708
Would still bang