/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.6310896]

Why doesn't STEM get any respect?

Most

Businessmen seem to think that their speculation and paperwork bullt and ran their factories

Liberal arts fags are under the impression that their buearocracy and subjective opinions elevated man to the level he is today.

Athletes don't think much at all


Why is being a nerd considered bad? Like you failed at something.
Why don't the non-rich nerds get any girls? Since apparently it's all based on primitive caveman logic, you'd think that the smarter mates will guarantee your survival, no?

Also, why are the so many ugly people in STEM(don't even try to deny it)?

[Anonymous No.6310901]

>>6310896
Those all sound like your opinions.

[Anonymous No.6310904]

>>6310901
They are questions and generalizations

[Anonymous No.6310918]

>>6310896
>be STEM major sitting in a bar
>girl and her friend come talk to me
>they ask what I do for a living
>say I'm an electrical engineer
>I fucked them both that night

[Anonymous No.6310931]

>>6310918
>electrical engineer
>contact with women
>not being eternally cursed to never be able to be around women for the rest of your life the day you got your diploma

Top laugh out loud

[Anonymous No.6310941]

>>6310896
Be a nerd because you want to be a fucking nerd, not because you want people to like you.

Nerds are god tier, and anyone who disagrees can suck a fat chode.

[Anonymous No.6310949]

>>6310941
>luk at me guuyz
>I'm such a nurd, omg I like scmience and quirky peepeel
>heepsteer 5 lyfe

[Anonymous No.6310955]

>>6310949
You didn't even read the post, did you?

[Anonymous No.6310962]

>>6310955
wow, you seriously dont understand why that post is exactly what hipsters say?

[Anonymous No.6310963]

>>6310955
You didn't even read my original post, did you?

Your post was irrelevant. I have no insecurities about liking math.

[Anonymous No.6310976]

This "nerd" thing seems to be lame trash pushed in the 90s US media.
Although not all scientists in cartoons/movies were nerds, some were cool.

Also Malcolm from Malcolm in the Middle was far closer to a "kid who likes science/math" in real life, I have a friend who won a lot of math/physics competitions (now he is studying physics) and acted a lot like him.

Always looking for dumb stuff to do etc.

[Anonymous No.6310977]

>>6310963
Clearly you're jealous of the attention that businessmen, athletes, and "Liberal arts fags" get, taking passive aggressive cheap shots in your original post.

Maybe you don't get any girls because you're arrogant and think you deserve more respect than others.

Point is, stop being so needy. Just be a nerd and be satisfied with being a nerd regardless of the opinions of others.

>>6310962
No, because hipsters pretend to not care about the opinions of others while secretly foaming at the mouth to be accepted by other hipsters.

[Anonymous No.6310991]

>>6310977
Look at this special snowflake.

The rest of society is a bunch of attention seeking whores. But not this goy, he's a rebel. He doesn't even need to talk to people. That's why he stays in his moms basement all day

[Anonymous No.6311017]

>>6310991
Alrighty then.

Have fun on your high horse, almighty euphoric one.

[Anonymous No.6311023]

Who's smarter. A typical economics student or a typical STEM student?

[Anonymous No.6311032]

>>6311023
Doesn't matter. Fine arts students have much higher IQs

[Anonymous No.6311046]

>>6310896
Literally no one I know thinks this, including me and I'm not a STEMfag

[Anonymous No.6311308]

>>6310896
Because you're not a nerd but a dork. Take off the fedora and get a life

[Anonymous No.6311348]

Because social skills and connections determine your status in the world. The world is run by Chad Thundercock and his fraternity bros, because people listen to them because they're the loudest in the room. And when they got to the top, they made it "cool" to not be intellectual, because everyone wants to emulate success. STEMs can't convince people of their ideas without sperging out. Reality is about convincing the lowest common denominator of people that your ideas are correct by using little soundbites, buzzwords, appealing to emotion, because math is like, totally uncool man (read: I don't understand it, therefore I hate it).

[Anonymous No.6311363]

Everything you need to know about /sci/ in one thread.

[Anonymous No.6311398]

>>6310918
youre lucky, whenver someone wask me what im doing and i tell them that im studying physics i get the weirdest looks and no further talks.
nowadays i tell people im a "quantummechanic" they recognize the word mechanic as something "normal" and nothing gets awkward. i hate it.

[Anonymous No.6311467]

>>6311398
Why would you want to know people who react like that to such trivial shit?

Also,

Grad student != physicist

[Anonymous No.6311468]

>>6310977
>>6311308
>Because you're not a nerd but a dork
what the fuck is the difference?

[Anonymous No.6311480]

>>6311467
because im not one pretentious asshole that thinks hes above everyone because he studies some STEM.

[Anonymous No.6311688]

>>6311480
People don't want to talk to you after they find out what your profession is and you're okay with that?

[Anonymous No.6311702]

Perhaps ugly people are more prevalent in STEM because it's a field that isn't as political and impressions don't matter as much. For example, if you go to a business deal looking like a hobo, your client will be very suspicious about doing business with you. However in the sciences there isn't nearly as much face to face interaction, it's mostly done in papers/journals.

[Anonymous No.6311718]

What you really seem to want to ask is:

"Why are STEM personnel viewed as less attractive and not as well received as businessmen ans artists (musicians, painters, writers, etc.) ?"

Women and men generally are attracted by two things, power and intrigue. Men seems to be attracted through respect and women through security. Businessmen generally end up in positions of authority, which leaves men respecting the power it shows and women feel secure being with someone who is in control.

Artists are interesting, they tend to be eccentric and obscure which leads women to be intrigued by their talent and understanding.

STEM personnel tend to work under others and can't produce intrigue without the receiver knowing about the subject at hand. In other words to the average person, STEM personnel are just boring.

I know these are generalizations but since OP generalized I figured I could too.

[Anonymous No.6311756]

>>6310896
>Why is being a nerd considered bad?
For starters you're self-identifying as something that is considered and intended as an insult, so there's that.

Furthermore humans are just barely sentient, it's just a paper-thin layer of what we are, just slightly smarter animals than the rest of the animals on this planet, so what do you expect? The 99% who are average or below average can't understand what the 1% who are exceptional are thinking or doing, so rather than accept that they're dumb they leverage the fact that they are the majority and declare you to be the defective one.

[Anonymous No.6311777]

>>6310896
>athletes don't think much at all
care to prove this?

Athlete and STEM fag here

[Anonymous No.6312030]

It's too autistic for most people, trying to explain what you study anyone else is very hard. How the fuck do you explain vector calculus to someone who could barely pass algebra and high school. Your better off avoiding talking about these things so you don't get branded as that crazy autist that can only understand equations and knows nothing about being human.

Tl;dr - never talk about math related subjects that anyone not in those subjects

[Anonymous No.6312044]

>>6310962

>hipsters
>actual "nerds"

kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.6312059]

>>6310896
>implying that bureaucracy, the statecraft that ensures a government can perform day-to-day functions regardless of ruler and the associated stability, isn't of immediate importance to human/scientific progression

[Anonymous No.6312067]

I'm a liberal arts fag and I'm perfectly conscious of the fact that what I like to do is just for fun and doesn't elevate man to any great heights at all. That's why I'm browsing this board. (Guilt)

[Anonymous No.6312072]

>>6312059
I don't think he implied it isn't important. I think he implied that it is secondary.

[Anonymous No.6312184]

>not being /fit/ and /stem/
stay smelly nerds

[Anonymous No.6312213]

>>6310896
If you ain't getting action, it's because you are socially awkward. There's more to the world than STEM. Go take a dancing class. Go to a concert. Get laid. You definitely ain't a load bearing pillar in your field--you can take a break.

As for cute girls in STEM, head to chem and bio building. I know most of them are mostly nursing and pre-med, but that's as close as you'll get. All the cute girls in engineering are socially awkward and always taken.

[Anonymous No.6312219]

>>6310896
I'd like to also add that the engineering guys are socially awkward and overly protective of their gfs (helicopter status). Um, actually, all undergrad guys are helicopter status.

[Anonymous No.6312297]

I don't know. You get respect when you tell those fuckers you have a high paying job though, OP. Gets'em every time.

And the girls in Chem Eng aren't bad looking.

[Anonymous No.6312652]

>>6312184
Hah agreed. I like the wording "You can't have physics without physiqe".

[Anonymous No.6312682]

>back to the late 1880s
>medicine doctors barely make a living
>traveling country, doing veterinarian jobs, etc
>strict licensing becomes introduced
>they get monopoly for teaching/practicing
>become self governed, with all the hospital executives being mds as well
>fastforward today - mad dosh

the reason why STEMfags get no respect, is because they're terrible at politics. pretty much cattle with diplomas, being run in circles by the management.

[Anonymous No.6312688]

>>6312297
chemE does have the best looking girls in engineering. but their personalities seem to be always shit.

mechE has the best girls overall.

EE girls are weird as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6312703]

>>6312682
pic sauce?
>>6312688
>mfw when mechE has 0 girls in my uni

[Anonymous No.6312721]

>>6312703
tumblr.

[Anonymous No.6312756]

>>6312688

>EE
>girls

lol this guy

[Anonymous No.6312897]

>>6312721
what movie is it from

[Anonymous No.6313005]

>>6312897
Life Aquatic Steve Zissou

[Anonymous No.6313119]

>>6312030
>vector calculus

Confirmed for underaged banned

[Anonymous No.6313124]

>>6312213
I'm not blaming my sex life on STEM. You misinterpreted.

I was making accurate generalizations.

[Anonymous No.6313130]

>>6312756
This.

He's lying out of his ass.

[Anonymous No.6313135]

because STEM is an enormous good ol' boys club, and its offputting to outsiders.

[Anonymous No.6313145]

wtf are you talking about OP? my family is full of successful buisnessmen and women and I am an undergraduate freshman physics student at a good-but-not-ivy uni and I'm considered a genius to most of them. they respect the shit out of me and I don't even ask for shit.

[Anonymous No.6313201]

>>6312652
Mind and body are a unit brah

I'm ottermode, aryan, confident, def attractive (I have girls smile at me often, the other day one even dropped her jaw next to her bf lel) and I'm the smartest person I personally know

I firmly believe that the dedicated and superior mind will always succeed, no exceptions. For if it doesn't succeed, it was either not dedicated enough or not superior (recognizing the need for dedication) enough

on the other hand all my friends say I'm eccentric

[Anonymous No.6313226]

>>6313201
>ottermode
>girl drops her jaw

Were you shirtless?

[Anonymous No.6313250]

>>6310931
While true, the curse only has so much power. When the power of having a shit ton of cash outbalances being an EE, things turn out for the better.

[Anonymous No.6313259]

>>6313226
no

[Anonymous No.6313275]

>>6311468
Nerd = someone with technical or niche interests among others
Otaku = someone completely obsessed with a niche interest
Dork = someone with low to terrible social skills and appearance that hunts for some form of acceptance by seeking out niche interests
Hipsters = someone who hunts for acceptance by seeking out popular niche interests but has very shallow passion/knowledge for it

[Anonymous No.6313283]

>>6311017
There you go. Euphoric.
Godfuckingdammit, stop it. Shit got old. Every time someone in this motherfucking board says something that a certain anon doesn't like they go HURRR DURRR EUPHORIC FEDORA XD
You are fucking cancer, you are in fucking 4chan,get raped faggot

[Anonymous No.6313291]

Oh my god... the conversations in this thread... They're exact replicas of the first thread I viewed on /sci/ two years ago down to the exact responses!

[Anonymous No.6313299]

>>6313291
pic or didn't happen

[Anonymous No.6313326]

>>6310896
I see so many people with gf's in chemistry, scientists get the girls
Engineers are fucked though

Dun know why STEM is ugly though. Most don't care, and had to find another obsession.

[Anonymous No.6313331]

>>6311023
many engineers double major in Eng/Econ. its the English/Psych combo of the science world.

[Anonymous No.6313341]

>>6312219
I've never heard of the term helicopter status, do tell.

[Anonymous No.6313345]

>>6313291
The shillbot reposts randomly selected threads from the archive in an effort to lower the overall quality of the board.

[Anonymous No.6313348]

>>6313201
>I'm the smartest person I personally know
>all my friends say i'm eccentric
>That word choice
Holy fuck I don't even know you and I hate you.

[Anonymous No.6313354]

>>6313326
>Dun know why STEM is ugly though
i look around my classroom and i legitimately feel bad for some of these guys. i know that very few people ever get dealt a royal flush in the game of genetic poker, but goddamn.

[Anonymous No.6313372]

>>6313348
haha that pic is so cute though

[Anonymous No.6313406]

>>6313201
>Mind and body are a unit brah

No, they are a duality.

[Anonymous No.6313417]

>>6310896
because I would never want to work with most of the people from this board or people like them

[Anonymous No.6313419]

>>6313406
they are both matter

[Anonymous No.6313426]

>>6313419
Mind is the opposite of matter.

[Anonymous No.6313429]

>>6313426
The stupidity, it hurts.

[Anonymous No.6313430]

>>6313429
Your stupidity hurts? Well, you can always educate yourself.

[Anonymous No.6313433]

>>6313430
HNNNNNNG.
And now he thinks he's being clever by making an incredibly lame retort.
TOO MUCH STUPIDITY.
OUR SYSTEMS CAN'T HANDLE IT.
ABORT.
ABORT.
ABORT.

[Anonymous No.6313440]

>>6313433
Oh, I see. You're pretending to be a robot without human consciousness. Aren't you a little bit too old for role playing?

[Anonymous No.6313441]

>>6313440
Wow.
A legit autist.

[Anonymous No.6313450]

>>6313441
You think >>6313433 is an autist? I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was just being childish.

[Anonymous No.6313451]

>>6310896

I'll preface this with the following. Science is my life. I work 9-5 in a laboratory (previously in research, currently in classes for my Masters degree). I live and breath the subject. When I'm bored I read papers on my subject to build a deeper insight into the field and I own a room of textbooks.

And I get laid, fairly regularly. In fact, most girls love a guy who is well read and passionate about his field. This whole idea that nerds don't get any is a misnomer. I am a nerd. I find paper exciting, and boobs too. I also don't think I'm particularly good looking. I stoop so I'm shorter than I should be and I have a face like a bag of dented bells and I still get girls.

If you are passionate about something and you can convey this in a way that doesn't spray doritos over them, then you will get laid. Even if you are the dorkiest scientist in the world.

/rant

[Anonymous No.6313452]

Hey goyim, check it out.

[Anonymous No.6313455]

>>6313452
what does verbal mean?

[Anonymous No.6313457]

>>6313455
lol 8/10

I see what you did there.

[Anonymous No.6313458]

>>6313450
No >>6313440
He's completely oblivious and obviously has some kind of impairment.

[Anonymous No.6313460]

>>6313455

I think it's how much the idea is conveyed verbally as opposed to mathematically. At least that's the only way I can fathom that chart.

[Anonymous No.6313463]

>>6313452
>Philosofags
Not bad.

[Anonymous No.6313462]

>>6313458
What makes you say that? Are you trying to "troll"?

[Anonymous No.6313468]

>>6313452
This chart convinced me to study physical education.

[Anonymous No.6313473]

>>6313440
>>6313441
>neither of you will try to prove each other wrong
I'll do it for you chums. If something has some sort of substance (it can be perceived, thought, or implied) it is matter, matter is all that exists, therefor mind is matter.

[Anonymous No.6313474]

>>6313452
Why would you compare people with a mathematical education with people with no mathematical education?

Of course Mathematicians are better at math than social workers. Of course Language guys are verbally better.

What a surprise. (and why the fuck is math so low in math? Because we only learn to proof and not how to actually calculate?)

[Anonymous No.6313477]

>>6313473
Mind cannot be observed.

[Anonymous No.6313481]

>>6313463
>implying logic isnt math

[Anonymous No.6313482]

>>6313473
Is the concept of infinity made of matter? According to you it is because it can be perceived / thought of.

[Anonymous No.6313484]

>>6313474
What do you mean why is math so low in math? Can you read?

[Anonymous No.6313487]

>>6313477
only if youre a solipsist

[Anonymous No.6313495]

>>6312756
I don't think you've taken a close look at high tier university EE programs (its like a 50/50 split).

[Anonymous No.6313492]

>>6313481
>implying philosotards understand logic

Most philosophy students fail to comprehend something as simple as a logical implication or the concept of subset inclusion. Literally all research on formal logic in philosophy is done by people who studied both math and philosophy. The majority of philosophers are mathematically retarded.

[Anonymous No.6313498]

>>6313487
Not true. Look up "qualia" and "the hard problem of consciousness".

[Anonymous No.6313496]

>>6313482
>percieved
no you cant see all of it
>thought of
no we always have to round if were going to solve a problem

if infinity actually exists outside of theory it is beyond our comprehension.

[Anonymous No.6313502]

>>6313492
I would be inclined to believe you would to link a survey

[Anonymous No.6313504]

>>6313496
>no you cant see all of it
Of course I can. Just write down the infinity symbol.

>no we always have to round if were going to solve a problem
You don't round infinity.

>if infinity actually exists outside of theory it is beyond our comprehension.
Every kid with a normally developed brain understands it.

[Anonymous No.6313503]

>>6313492
>the majority of philosophers are mathematically retarded
>mfw
>>6313452

[Anonymous No.6313507]

>>6313484
Math should be clearly above everything else in math, not just "among the top"

[Anonymous No.6313510]

>>6313502
Have you never seen a philosophy student? Try to take a class together with them and make your own experiences.

>>6313503
That's why I'm saying the chart is bullshit. It is based on a standardized american high school test and what they mislabel as mathematical aptitude is in fact nothing more than elementary algebra.

[Anonymous No.6313526]

>>6313510
>toppest of keks

[Anonymous No.6313533]

>>6313526
I don't understand your reply. Please speak English.

[Anonymous No.6313590]

>>6313452
>European history higher in both math and verbal than American history

AHAHAHAAHA

[Anonymous No.6313600]

>>6310918
>engineer
>fucking women

Sure you did m8

[Anonymous No.6313612]

>>6313452
>creative wriging

Oddly appropriate

[Anonymous No.6313639]

>>6313492
This. So much fucking this.
Philosophy is the biggest circle jerk of stupidity unless everyone arguing knows math and can follow logic.

Not to mention most are angsty faggots who can't move past the "you can't know anything!" entry level bull shit.

[Anonymous No.6313642]

>>6313639
Also forgot to mention the 'meaning of life' bull shit. For fucks sake this argument is the most boring million time answered question.

[Anonymous No.6313668]

>>6313642
so what is the meaning of life?

[Anonymous No.6313690]

>>6313642
Meaning of life is to wonder that very question.

It is as obvious as number 3 and as meaningful too.

[Anonymous No.6313830]

>>6310941
Lol that picture was funny. I agree with you good sir.

[Anonymous No.6313959]

>>6313668
Serve the Lord.

[Anonymous No.6313962]

>>6310896
>why are so many ugly people in STEM(don't even try to deny it)?
Are you kidding? STEM is now mainstream and the # of good looking people flocking to these degrees is astounding.
Also, maybe this is my opinion but it seems that now more than ever its easy to become good looking. For girls all you need is proper make-up and for guys, confidence. And for both, to be fit.

[Anonymous No.6313969]

>>6313283
>dat autistic rage