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What is the possibility that someone who got straight Fs and Ds in every class relating to math/science
throughout his or her entire life
could become a mathematical genius?

I need to know.

>> No.6287172

1 - 0.999...

>> No.6287184

Apply yourself, faggot.

>> No.6287186

1+2+3+4+5+6+...

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>>6287172
>>6287186

>> No.6287232

>>6287169
see galois, hermite. had trouble in school but were both brilliant

>> No.6287246

>>6287172
>almost 0
I think this is a bit too harsh. I got straight D's in my high school math classes, but over the summer I became interested in math (I had enrolled to do a physics undergrad), and I taught myself calculus, and it went quite well. After a year of physics I switched to doing a double major in both math and physics, which I completed two years later, cum laude. I'm certain I'll become a PhD student in math, but I wouldn't call myself a genius. I'll probably become an eternal post doc.

>> No.6287567

>>6287246
how do you get Ds in maths and get into a physics undergrad?

>> No.6287579

>>6287232

one in a hundred million.

zero chance OP, zero.

>> No.6287635

>>6287246
Not almost zero. 1-0.9999...=0.

>> No.6287644

>>6287186
You know shit about probability. That's out of range!

P=1/12+1+2+3+4+5...

There.

>> No.6287645

>>6287246
Why would you mention your highschool grades if you already majored in math undergrad and did well? Get the fuck out nigger.

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>>6287169
I guess so. However I generally assume it not to be the case as being a genius is by definition an exception.

I failed a number of math courses, but time after time I find out later that I am right but I was just doing it a different way, often one that is not covered till a later course. Coincidentally enough I was asked by the chair of the math department to change my major as he said I had a firm grasp of mathematical thinking that he seldom sees.
(I had been complaining to him in the cafeteria about my math troubles, triggered by my latest math test which I nearly failed, not knowing who he was as he asked a lot of questions.) To which I informed him I was graduating in a few weeks and couldn't take on any more debt. And that maybe he and his department should do there job better so I would not hate them as much for all the trouble they caused me. A good chunk of my problems would have gone away if they had introduced hyper real numbers in calculus 1 as that was what I was basically using without knowing it.

If we use hyper reals we can prove 1 =/= 0.99999..., which is what I have been saying since I first saw the 1=0.99999... and later highlighted with the concept of limits which totally doesn't use nonzero infinitesimals.

I learned the hard way that there is "math" and then there is mathematical thinking. And that isn't really going into the different branches of math, which can even contradict each other.
I blame a large part of this on our poor educational system which focus on "math" but not mathematical thinking. I see many children display such a talent for things, which is at best dismissed do to the lack of knowledge or more commonly beaten out of them. Of course if everyone got a better education and their talents were nurtured it would just empower more people to be smarter when compared to the previous ones. Peer to peer wise little would change as the requirement to be a genius would just get higher.

>> No.6288259

Depends on if they failed because they suck at math or because they didn't give a shit. The latter has a very small chance.

For the former, your only hope is to suffer severe brain trauma and hope it bestows upon you the ability to draw fractals.

>> No.6288273

>>6287232
Not "trouble" in the sense of what OP is referring to.

Galois was a mathematical genius, but he had a short fuse which he would unleash at his teachers. He was expelled from the Ecole de Polytechnique after he thew a black board eraser at one of his judges because the judge didn't know what Galois was talking about in one of his oral proofs.

>> No.6288290

>>6287169
>Einstein

/thread

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>>6288290
fuck off

>> No.6288382

depends, did you just get those grades because you didn't pay attention? or because you couldn't understand?

if the second, a very low chance


if first, teach yourself math from the beginning

and you'll have the same chance as others