/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.6250124]

Is /sci/ the smartest board on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.6250125]

We have the highest IQ.

[Anonymous No.6250153]

>>6250124
>Is /sci/ the smartest board on 4chan?

Have you lurked here for few hours? I doubt you'd ask that question if you did.

/pol/ probably has a the most smart people on 4chan but it's too fast moving for my taste.

[Anonymous No.6250162]

/g/

[Anonymous No.6250160]

>>6250153
>/pol/
yeah

your opinion is irrelevant

[Anonymous No.6250254]

in the land of idiots, the imbecile is king.

[Anonymous No.6250258]

>>6250124
no

[Anonymous No.6250263]

>>6250124
/b/ believe or not

[Anonymous No.6250265]

It's /jp/.

I'm serious.

[Anonymous No.6250270]

>>6250153
>>6250263
>>6250265
>xDDDDDDD

[Anonymous No.6250274]

>>6250270
I'm not kidding, /jp/ is smarter than you.

[Anonymous No.6250277]

>>6250274
I used to hang out on /jp/ and I have no idea why you'd think that.
They're just a bunch of touhou obsessed NEET

[Anonymous No.6250278]

>>6250277
>They're just a bunch of touhou obsessed NEET

Real /jp/ hates touhou.

[Anonymous No.6250295]

>>6250277
this guy is trolling you /jp/ is retarded

literally the worst board on 4chan, why do you think moot hates them so much?

[Anonymous No.6250327]

>>6250153
just checked out /pol/ for the first time

not that i entirely disagree, but holy shit, apparently everyone hates jews there

still would probably say /sci/ has probably the highest average level of education just by the nature of it

[Anonymous No.6250336]

/pol/ is the smartest board.

[Anonymous No.6250345]

>>6250327
>>6250153
>>6250336

Yep, it's /pol/. They're as smart as /sci/ but without autism.

[Anonymous No.6250346]

>>6250327
>apparently everyone hates jews there
its a shtick, bruh

[Anonymous No.6250348]

/sci/ might (or might not) have the highest IQ, but in a traditional sense of "smart" /lit/ might take the cake. But that's a guess, I've never been to /lit/.

[Anonymous No.6250349]

Yes, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.6250350]

>>6250348
/lit/ is pretty retarded when it comes to anything outside of specific books.

[Anonymous No.6250351]

>>6250348
>thinks another board is smarter, has no evidence and has never been there.

and then people wonder why /sci/ is so full of troll shit and why everyone falls for obvious baits that fail everywhere else on this god-forsaken site.

[Anonymous No.6250354]

>>6250160
he's right

[Anonymous No.6250359]

I've seen the same threads on here and on /pol/ and /pol/ thread always has not only more replies but better replies with more insight and less troll shit.

since we're scientists here, it's easy to test. go ahead and do it. take one of the /sci/ threads, post there and see the replies.

[Anonymous No.6250361]

>>6250354
>Make stupid statement
>someone disagrees with you
>"No he's totally right guize!!1"

[Anonymous No.6250360]

People saying that /pol/ is the smartest board. I hope that is a troll answer. /pol/ has by far the highest concentration of irrational people.
/sci/ is one of the smarter boards, but I don't think it's the smartest.

[Anonymous No.6250370]

>>6250359
>>>/pol/24681084

challenge accepted.

[Anonymous No.6250376]

/diy/ (actual browsers, not randos asking for help) is pretty smart.

[Anonymous No.6250381]

>>>/diy/

[Anonymous No.6250383]

>>6250124
god no. I'd say /g/ is the best contender. People actually know stuffs there, though bustling with OSfags

[Anonymous No.6250387]

/sci/ might as well be reddit.

/diy/ is the smartest board on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.6250388]

>>6250370
that's a stupid thread. go take one of the many AI threads that we have on here and ask /pol/ is AI will ever take over.

[Anonymous No.6250396]

as a guy who frequents /pol/ daily, they're on par with /b/ in autism

[Anonymous No.6250403]

>>6250388

Well hardly anyone's replied to it over there, so you may have a point.

[Anonymous No.6250426]

If you mean how intelligent is the average thread, /sci/ beats /pol/, /g/, and /lit/

If you mean how intelligent is the average poster, /sci/ pretty much ties with /pol/ and /lit/

[Anonymous No.6250432]

/pol/ is retarded

[Anonymous No.6250435]

>>6250426
Why do you even think that /pol/ is smart? Do you think talking about conspiracy theories, Jews, "liberals" and moronic lolbertarian utopias/dystopias means you are smart?

The only boards on 4chan with some intelligent threads are /diy/, /g/ and /lit.
The rest is full of pop science, pop philosophy and nonsense.

[Anonymous No.6250437]

>>6250435
/lit/ is pretty dumb, but there are a few smart posters

[Anonymous No.6250438]

Using the label smart makes you stupid.

[Anonymous No.6250439]

>>6250435
There are still a lot of legitimately politically informed posters

[Anonymous No.6250440]

Honestly you can't really come to a consensus about this. Literally every board on this site is retarded as hell, you just need to spend a little time there. But every board also has it's perks, /sci/ actually has that good topic to discuss once in a while, /fit/ tells some hilarious whale stories and you can actually learn a lot there, /mu/ can look at music intelligently and objectively, the list goes on. Even /b/ can be good at times. Granted, you do have those boards that are horrible ALL the time (/d/), but aside from those, what I'm saying still stands.

[Anonymous No.6250441]

>>6250254
This about sums it up

[Anonymous No.6250445]

>>6250396
Uhm, no. Nothing beats /sci/ in autism. 50%+ of /sci/ is autistic. Just read these threads for a confirmation.

[Anonymous No.6250446]

>>6250153
It really is /pol/


I know this will be hard to believe for /sci/, and anyone who is politically Left of centre will HATE the idea that there are racist, anti-semitic sociopaths who are more intelligent than them, but it's the truth.

Yes, /pol/ has some of the dumbest people, but most of the dumb people there are the shitposters that try to troll and bait /pol/ regulars with fallacious arguments. There are highly intelligent and well-informed people from every political spectrum on /pol/.

People just think it's full of nazis because it's virtually the only place on the internet that you can talk about Nazism in a sympathetic way and not be permabanned just for voicing your opinion.

That being said I think Nazism was a disastrous ideology, but I think eugenics was a good thing and I hate Nazism for ruining eugenics for everyone.

[Anonymous No.6250450]

>>6250446
Please, don't tell me you are an ancap, communist or libertarian.

[Anonymous No.6250453]

>>6250440

/d/ honestly has some of the nicest and most mature people I've ever seen on 4chan, they just have really shitty fetishes.

[Anonymous No.6250454]

>>6250450
I don't subscribe to any political label. In an ideal world I would be a libertarian, but we don't live in an ideal world. I want people to have freedom, but they ought to use their freedom to pursue righteous and morally uplifting ends.

You could call me a NatSoc that hates Nazism, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.6250460]

>>6250446
>well-informed people
you just have to read news and some books... there is nothing "intelligent" in that

>racist, anti-semitic sociopaths who are more intelligent than them, but it's the truth.
sorry, but racism (and eugenics) is illogical by itself, at least if you take science into account... so, I don't think a racist person can be intelligent (and there is a obviously cultural factor to it) in the first place. Yes, eugenics was the shit some 50+ years ago, but these days people should have learned the lesson.

[Anonymous No.6250462]

>>6250460
>eugenics is illogical
>at least if you take science into account
It's perfectly logical, it's just not humane

[Anonymous No.6250467]

>>6250460
Science has demonstrated time and time again that intelligence is a highly heritable trait, even when controlling for environmental factors (through studies of twins growing up in separate families). This suggests a strong genetic component to intelligence.

We know that high IQ women have few children.
We know that low IQ women have many children.
We know that the human brain has been getting smaller since the end of the last ice age.


I can see the trajectory humanity is headed down unless we take steps to improve the quality of our gene pool, can't you?

[Anonymous No.6250469]

>>6250462
>It's perfectly logical, it's just not humane

I concur. Just look at what's happening to the US… it would be 10x better if we did what Chinese are doing. That's why in 50 years time, China will have people with an average IQ of 125 and US with 85. We’ve been importing smart people for the last 50 years but that's already slowed down as most don't want to deal with out fucked up social structure and their countries are becoming decent.

[Anonymous No.6250468]

>>6250462
no. social darwinism has, I think, been proved to be false and harming to humans, not only by history, but by SCIENCE, because species and societies compete, yes, but also HELP one each other, otherwise we wouldn't be what we are.

[Anonymous No.6250472]

>>6250467
Citation for twins study?

[Anonymous No.6250474]

>>6250469
The only thing that matters is happiness. Tech gadgets and tech fluff are just taking the long way to it (and it's not even guaranteed). What is the point?
We must understand the brains first and foremost. More money should be go towards neuroscience, biomedical and pharmaceutical sciences. The rest is irrelevant and will become obsolete.

[Anonymous No.6250478]

>>6250467
>IQ
>intelligence
>you can measure intelligence by showing talent at finding (mathematical) patterns
yeah...

>Science has demonstrated time and time again that intelligence is a highly heritable trait
LOLOLOL, I guess you've been reading too much newspapers and not many scientific papers... from my POV, it's exactly the contrary. you are NOT born "intelligent", but you and your environment make what you are. "genes" are a factor in the same way as environment.. and knowing that human societies these days are miserable, egoistic and individualistic, most people cannot do shit about it, even if their genes say otherwise.
Just keep repeating your bullshit, you are reproducing the same shitty society you live in.

[Anonymous No.6250482]

>>6250478
Partially this

How active or passive your early childhood is is a big factor

[Anonymous No.6250483]

>>6250468
here you go

http://web.missouri.edu/~segerti/1000H/Bouchard.pdf

>>6250478
Sorry if it hurts your feelings, but multiple studies over many decades conclude that the biggest factor determining adult intelligence is genes, not environment.

See the above link as well as this one
http://ibg.colorado.edu/cdrom2012/demoor/MultivariateCholesky/Papers/Polderman_IQ_AP_EF_2006.pdf

Yes, IQ is a narrow measure of intelligence, but you know what? IQ correlates strongly with test results in all academic subjects. IQ correlates strongly with academic achievement and college graduation rates. IQ correlates strongly with income. IQ correlates strongly with every other measure of intelligence we have devised.
Whatever IQ is measuring, it's pretty certain that it's a fundamental component of "intelligence".

[Anonymous No.6250487]

>>6250483
Sorry, that was meant to be a reply to
>>6250472
Identical twins reared-apart

"about 70% of the variatiance in IQ was found to be genetically determined"

[Anonymous No.6250488]

>>6250483
I like you. Take this hot dog as a token of my friendship

[Anonymous No.6250490]

>>6250478
>IQ tests only contain pattern-recognition tests!!!

haha no

also what he said
>>6250483

[Anonymous No.6250491]

>>6250474
>The only thing that matters is happiness.

And how will you provide that happiness if your country starts faltering and people become unahppy?

>Tech gadgets and tech fluff are just taking the long way to it (and it's not even guaranteed). What is the point?
We must understand the brains first and foremost. More money should be go towards neuroscience, biomedical and pharmaceutical sciences. The rest is irrelevant and will become obsolete.

If that were the case, we might as well install an opiate/morphine/heroin drip into everyone and then everyone will be happy.

And here's a good article for those retards who still doubt IQ and dislike eugenics and don't understand what China's doing:

http://www.edge.org/responses/q2013

>China has been running the world's largest and most successful eugenics program for more than thirty years, driving China's ever-faster rise as the global superpower. I worry that this poses some existential threat to Western civilization. Yet the most likely result is that America and Europe linger around a few hundred more years as also-rans on the world-historical stage, nursing our anti-hereditarian political correctness to the bitter end.

>When I learned about Chinese eugenics this summer, I was astonished that its population policies had received so little attention. China makes no secret of its eugenic ambitions, in either its cultural history or its government policies.

US is fucked. The only population segment that's growing is the low-IQ one. And we keep making the problem worse through welfare programs.

[Anonymous No.6250495]

/pol/ is on the ball when it comes to geopolitics

[Anonymous No.6250494]

>>6250483
>psychology
>science
no.

also,
>US based study
yeah...no

[Anonymous No.6250498]

>>6250491
You can't link me to a site called edge.org and expect me to take it seriously.

[Anonymous No.6250496]

>Evolution is real and operates on every time scale, it doesn't take thousands of years for a group to evolve certain traits.

>Evolution led to every human group having the exact same distribution of the exact same genes controlling the brain, there is no genetically-determined difference in brain structure between different groups of humans.

Pick one.
This "tabula rasa" shit about humans is the progressive liberal version of Creationism.

[Anonymous No.6250499]

>>6250490
let's pretend you are born in a VERY POOR country, where NO ONE CAN HELP YOU BECAUSE NO ONE CAN HELP ANYONE. ok? see, you'd be worried most of the day about eating/finding food/finding water/etc. Also, your own cultural weight (a.k.a., religions) tells you to not do this or that, etc.
How do you think you would be living, and most importantly, what would be your IQ if you didn't give a flying fuck about mathematical patterns?

[Anonymous No.6250500]

>>6250491
>install an opiate/morphine/heroin drip into everyone and then everyone will be happy.

No. That's not a sustainable way to happiness. Too many long-term negative effects. The drugs you mentioned also lose their happiness effect the more that they are used. Drugs need to be made perfect, but first we need to understand the brains from inside out.

[Anonymous No.6250501]

>>6250494
Wow what a great refutation! In a debate about human intelligence, BY DEFINITION an argument about psychology, you called the whole field unscientific!
And then you came out and implied that any research carried out in the USA is invalid because, well, it makes your position a whole lot easier to defend if the other guy's evidence is wrong just BECAUSE.

Eat shit moron and enjoy living in denial about reality.

[Anonymous No.6250506]

>>6250499
Why don't you respond to me here?
>>6250483

To answer your question, I'm probably going to have a lower IQ if I'm living in a very poor country and can't get good education, because there is an environmental component to intelligence, but what the FUCK does that have to do with anything? In studies carried out in the USA, a developed nation with generally equal access to education (compared to say, Africa) studies have shown a strong genetic component to intelligence.

Even If I grew up in a poor country without education, if I have the right genes I'm still going to be a hell of a lot smarter than my neighbour born with shitty genetics! My intelligence might be geared more towards being able to create a lot of tools or learn interesting things I can do with plants, but I'm still going to be smarter than the guy with shitty genetics!

Again, whatever IQ is measuring, it measures something that correlates incredibly strongly to every measure of intelligence and success that we can think of.

Is this the best /sci/ can do? Sidestep the argument and give half-assed hypothetical scenarios, instead of backing their arguments up with, you know, scientific studies that support their viewpoints?

[Anonymous No.6250508]

>>6250494
Learn the definition of science, idiot. Psychology if done properly is a science.

Is psychology usually badly practized science? Then the answer is yes.

[Anonymous No.6250510]

>>6250501
and I thought this was /sci/...
OK, I can see why some people are saying /pol/ is more intelligent than /sci/, it's because of people like you.

But anyway, psychology has a shallow base, and US based psychology only serves marketing people, and it's obviously based on cultural prejudices.
Read this:
http://www.psmag.com/magazines/pacific-standard-cover-story/joe-henrich-weird-ultimatum-game-shaking-up-psychology-economics-53135/

[Anonymous No.6250509]

/sci/ getting fucking destroyed by /pol/ ITT, how embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.6250512]

>>6250446
>but I think eugenics was a good thing
Trash opinion by a trash poster in a trash thread.

[Anonymous No.6250513]

>>6250474
>The only thing that matters is happiness.
The most useless thing. I don't like fucking gedonists.
>>6250483
>Whatever IQ is measuring
Well, it's not a bad predictor of g-factor.
I should notify though that the heritability coefficient of IQ at ages from 12 to 16 has been determined only as .46, i.e. about .5. for adults, it has been found to be equal .86. I think IQ in children correlates better with 'true' intelligence.

[Anonymous No.6250515]

>>6250124
posted this in the other thread

[Anonymous No.6250518]

>>6250512
Why don't you explain why, instead of just disregarding it out of hand? Sticking your fingers in your ears and shutting your eyes won't stop a wolf from eating you, and it won't stop the human population becoming gradually dumber as lower-IQ people continue to outbreed higher-IQ people either.

>>6250513
I've seen different studies come to different conclusions; that the genetic factor is stronger in childhood and the environmental factor stronger in adulthood, and that the environmental factor is stronger in childhood and the genetic factor is stronger in adulthood.

What's clear is that the genetic factor is at least as strong as the environmental one and in some studies seems to be even stronger.
The reared-apart twins study I posted earlier is a very interesting read on this subject.

[Anonymous No.6250521]

>is /sci/ the smartest board on 4chan?

/sci/ is probably the board with the biggest ego despite knowing hardly anything about science.

[Anonymous No.6250523]

>>6250515
spot on. and we should get an even lower score because there's so many autistic nutjobs here that it makes rational discussion next to impossible.

[Anonymous No.6250524]

>>6250508
>Psychology if done properly is a science.
>Is psychology usually badly practized science? Then the answer is yes.
you just responded yourself there...

It's incredible, I myself have posted seemingly illogical statements, but at least I guess you got the idea... but the replies I've gotten... some people just lack the ability to think in a logical way, or at least in a consistent way.

I'm not responding the psychology guy anymore, go read books on biology and then come back. I also recommend reading humberto maturana's "the tree of knowledge", you'll see why I think psychology is mostly bullshit after reafding it.

[Anonymous No.6250528]

>>6250124
/pol/ is BY FAR.

[Anonymous No.6250530]

>>6250513
Life is centered on avoiding feelings that make you feel bad and looking for feelings that make you feel good. I'm not talking about short-term hedonism or utilitarianism, I'm talking about the long-term, sustainable variant.

Detours to happiness is what defines humanity and especially our society obsessed with gadgets.
Real science and technology now! More funds to biomedical sciences, neuroscience and pharmaceutical sciences are needed.

[Anonymous No.6250527]

>>6250498
>You can't link me to a site called edge.org and expect me to take it seriously.

you can't expect me to take a post by an autistic retard who posts on anime board and uses shitty image macros seriously.

[Anonymous No.6250533]

>>6250327
>but holy shit, apparently everyone hates jews there
Well, what do you like about jews?

[Anonymous No.6250534]

/diy/ is by far the most intelligent board on 4chan

[Anonymous No.6250542]

>>6250534
nonsense. even through I like /diy/, there's very little intelligent discussions that you have when you talk about menial stuff.

[Anonymous No.6250544]

>>6250530
>My life is centered on avoiding feelings that make you feel bad and looking for feelings that make you feel good. I'm not talking about short-term hedonism or utilitarianism, I'm talking about the long-term, sustainable variant.
FTFY

[Anonymous No.6250546]

>>6250523
>>6250515
Enhanced version

[Anonymous No.6250548]

>>6250544
Then why do you even bother living? Why do you think people want to be safe, entertained and get social validation? In the end, it's all about avoid negative feelings and looking for positive feelings.

[Anonymous No.6250550]

>>6250548
avoiding*

[Anonymous No.6250564]

>>6250548
>Then why do you even bother living?
I care about the people around me, and I wish I could help them. I've been thinking about killing myself since I was 11, and if my close family dies tomorrow, I think I would shoot myself the same day.

>Why do you think people want to be safe, entertained and get social validation?
I mostly dgaf about social validation

>In the end, it's all about avoid negative feelings and looking for positive feelings.
Not only that, not if your objective in life is not just "being/becoming happy"...

So, don't generalize.

[Anonymous No.6250568]

>>6250564
The way you live your life has obviously failed you, considering that you have suicidal tendencies. You should be one my side.

[Anonymous No.6250569]

>>6250546
hahah… great.

also, i love this quote and it's appropriate.

[Anonymous No.6250571]

>>6250533
can't breathe

[Anonymous No.6250578]

>>6250569
That quote is always appropriate.

[Anonymous No.6250587]

>>6250568
I was born poor and surrounded by miserable, egoistic people. That goes against my way of thinking, so yeah, that made me sad and, until now, I've failed... that doesn't mean I will always fail, and/or I'll always think the same way.

[Anonymous No.6250592]

google's opinion

[Anonymous No.6250601]

/x/ is the smartest board because they know about tulpas

[Anonymous No.6250607]

>>6250533
this

[Anonymous No.6250615]

>>6250592
/pol/ is full of shitposting, trolls, and paid shills. The sheer volume of shit is bound to drag down the statistics in favor of /sci/, but a good thread on /pol/ is just as good as, if not better than, a good thread on /sci/. And there are more on /pol/ due to its higher traffic.

[Anonymous No.6250618]

>>6250533
Pickles, bagels, Seinfeld, delis

[Anonymous No.6250621]

>>6250327
>>6250533

[Anonymous No.6250639]

> Is /sci/ the smartest board?
https://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/6090549#p6090552
Well....

[Anonymous No.6250640]

>>6250592
Shit nigga what are you doing?

[Anonymous No.6250646]

>>6250640
An archive is a more measurement than the current board since the sample size is larger. You should know that here.

[Anonymous No.6250650]

>>6250646
On the flip side it's less accurate because it takes into account old data, boards change over time.

[Anonymous No.6250651]

>>6250640
what does an advanced reading level even entail? And how is it more advanced than the intermediate, and is basic just coloring books?

[Anonymous No.6250658]

>>6250651
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/1095407?hl=en

>the program determines their appropriate reading level based on factors such as vocabulary, word length and grammatical complexity.

[Anonymous No.6250659]

>>6250658
Word length and Vocabulary? /pol might be just up there because of all the mentions of isms.

[Anonymous No.6250664]

i love this gif so much

>goddammit I'm so mad at this bitch i want to hurt her
>should i slap her?
no.
>should i punch her?
no.
>should i push her off the edge of the couch?
no.
>should I throw my book at her?
no.
>should i pick up this motherfucking Christmas tree with two hands and He-Man style hurl it over my head in the general vicinity of her stupid face?
of course

the choice that nigger made was a truly beautiful one

[Anonymous No.6250665]

>trusting google reading level or any form of blind word counting scheme
Continue being retarded.

[Anonymous No.6250723]

/diy/

[Anonymous No.6250726]

List of 4chan boards by Reading Levels
http://pastebin.com/eBphkA0h
Most advanced level is rs 12% basic(no posts though),lgbt 20% ,cm 38%,e 40%,y 42%,c 50%.

[Anonymous No.6250725]

>>6250723
>blue-collar folks
>intelligent
kek

[Anonymous No.6250727]

>>6250467
top kek

33 ACT Honors Student, /gd/ and comp sci double major here.

both my parents dropped out of high school.

eat my ass

[Anonymous No.6250739]

>>6250727
>ACT
>Meaning anything

ACT is designed to let inbred hicks and niggers go to college

if you didn't take the SAT, your opinion isn't worth shit.

[Anonymous No.6250741]

/diy/

It's also one of, if not the best board on 4chan in terms of quality.

[Anonymous No.6250766]

>>6250726
What am I even looking at here?

[Anonymous No.6250772]

>>6250739
don't they test the same exact things on the act? it's not like the sat is an iq test or anything.

[Anonymous No.6250781]

Am i missing some inside joke, are you guys being sarcastic how the fuck is /pol/ even remotely intelligent?

It's literally a bunch of white neck-beards being racist and hating jews because some infographic told them that 'jews are evil'

Like no one on that board has 0 capacity to say anything intellectual or justified when it comes to anything political or social.

[Anonymous No.6250806]

>>6250124
/tg/ is smartest. Can't be trolled and knows everything about anything.

What the heck is goin on in that pic? Something must have ticked him off bad.

[Anonymous No.6250807]

/sci/ are just anti social college dropouts
they know nothing about anything and don't care about doing real science
they're manchildren. stay away from /sci/

[Anonymous No.6250836]

>>6250807
>stay away from /sci/
>is on /sci/

[Anonymous No.6250840]

Do anyone here have experience with the Rosseta Stone program? i want to teach myself mandarin, is it a good way to start?

[Anonymous No.6250847]

>>6250766
Google's Reading Levels of websites.

[Anonymous No.6250864]

>>6250847
So you think that using fancy words means you're smart?

[Anonymous No.6250872]

The smartest board is and always will be /b/.

[Anonymous No.6250887]

>>6250872

amen

[Anonymous No.6250980]

>>6250348
/lit/ is an endless circle jerk of pretentious delusional mcdonald's employees

[Anonymous No.6251032]

>>6250980
All boards are like this and all boards have something juicy sandwiched in between the crap. You just have to take the good and ignore the bad.

Lit is good for some things.... like literature. I go there every once in a while, mostly because I have questions about writing.

By the way, are you pretending /sci/ isn't prentious?

>pretending pretensions

[Anonymous No.6251038]

/sci/ can barely into highschool math
>mfw 3*(0.333.....) != 1 debate threads with 200+ replies

I'm about to finish my undergrad in Physics and /sci/ is like walking into a kindergarten classroom.
As pretentious as that sounds it's 100% true. With stackoverflow et. al.,
there is no reason for an intelligent person to come to 4chan to talk about science, ever.
The same kind of thinking applies to /g/.

[Anonymous No.6251040]

>>6251038
4chan in general is like a dump where you look for diamonds. This also applies to /sci/, there are good and informational posts, you just have to search them for a little bit.

[Anonymous No.6251041]

>>6251040
by a bit you mean a lot

[Anonymous No.6251049]

>>6250124
If we were really a science board people would actually be running unbiased experiments instead of talking shit. This is more like /academia/, we should be right at home with /lit/.

[Anonymous No.6251061]

>>6251038
>mfw an undergrad thinks he's entitled to act arrogantly

my lels are in orbit

[Anonymous No.6251063]

>>6250518


The twins thing makes a lot of sense.

My family is retarded. I mean country bumpkin factory worker retarded, and I've always been the one who has had the "bright future", but I failed freshman Calc. Granted, I can do the math, but not in that little time because I have to draw everything out.

I never had to sit down and study in high school, but I always tried to apply the shit whenever I could. My only aced test in the class was optimization and real life situations. That's the only real reason I did so well-- because I practiced.

[Anonymous No.6251075]

>>6250509
>/sci/ getting fucking destroyed by /pol/ ITT, how embarrassing.

Is that even surprising? /pol/ is never wrong and /sci/ is being trolled every day by 1 = 0.9… threads, by Jacob Barnett threads, by perpetual motion threads, by low-level /x/ type nonsense etc.

[Anonymous No.6251085]

>>6250153

pol is filled to the brim with retards, what the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.6251088]

>>6250533

>science board
>oblivious to the fact that some of the greatest mathematicians and scientists were jews

[Anonymous No.6251089]

>>6250533
they made 4chan

[Anonymous No.6251090]

>>6251075
We are not being trolled. We are replying ironically. 2deep4u

[Anonymous No.6251100]

/b/ is probably the smartest because of it's numbers.

[Anonymous No.6251116]

>>6250462

Its not logical in any sense.

a) There's no ultimate goal of society, we merely pursue our own interests with the legal framework the government sets us. So there is no need for eugenics in the first place.

b) At the moment, we have no way to reliably predict intelligence in advance. You would have to wait 20 years or so until the offspring have reached their peak.

c) Its a massive waste of money.

d) The more people we have, the better. We need smart and dumb people, we need people to fill every niche. Even if there were 700 million people who qualified, that still would not be enough people to support our current way of life.

[Anonymous No.6251122]

>>6251116

>The more people we have, the better.

The fuck? Overpopulation is the worst problem humanity faces.

>We need smart and dumb people, we need people to fill every niche.

Why?

[Anonymous No.6251123]

>>6250124
No, but it's the most self-conscious about being intelligent

[Anonymous No.6251125]

>>6251116
>There's no ultimate goal of society,
There is. It's just not what religitards want to make us believe. Learn some science and figure it out on your own.

>At the moment, we have no way to reliably predict intelligence in advance.
Intelligence is heritable. Smart parents will most likely have smart kids.

>Its a massive waste of money.
If we can wast billions on sending a fancy car to mars, we shouldn't have a problem with the few millions needed here.

>The more people we have, the better
The more people we have, the faster we use up our limited resources.

[Anonymous No.6251127]

>>6251125
>There is. It's just not what religitards want to make us believe. Learn some science and figure it out on your own.
>there is but im not going to tell you!
lold

[Anonymous No.6251129]

>>6251122

>Overpopulation

Overpopulation is a complete myth in the first world. Its only happening in second world and third world countries because we keep giving them aid and allowing them to keep breeding beyond what their economy and infrastructure allows.

>worst problem humanity faces.

Oh my fucking god, that's rich. Its complete bullshit, its a myth made up by Marxist state-run colleges to push their Liberal agenda and introduce more regulations to the market, also to make government subsidise green technology. There is no evidence the world is becoming "overpopulated".

>Why?

Because, it takes a lot of people to make a lot of stuff, and a lot of stuff is what we want. Plus we want disposable people working shitty jobs.

[Anonymous No.6251135]

>>6250124
/lit/ is the smartest. It's not easy at all to comprehend and analyze literature.

[Anonymous No.6251136]

>>6251129

>irreversible loss of arable land, mass species extinctions, deforestation, loss of ecosystems, global warming, soil pollution: none of these are problems to worry about, humans can do no wrong!
>liberal agenda
>Marxist

/pol/ pls go

[Anonymous No.6251140]

>>6251129

Heres how this works... you don't change your lifestyle of consumption and ignorance despite the best efforts of more intelligent people to pursuade you to do so, which precipitates their efforts to get the government to force you to do so.

Thats how you became the problem instead of part of the solution, dumbass.

All you blathering about a liberal agenda is some stupid bullshit. Go back to talk radio and get off my /sci/ nuts bitch.

[Anonymous No.6251142]

>>6250446
>anyone who is politically Left of centre will HATE the idea
The epitome of /pol/ rhetoric

[Anonymous No.6251146]

>>6251125

No, there isn't. The government's job is simply to set the legal framework we all operate in. Then we're largely free to do what we want.

>Intelligence is heritable. Smart parents will most likely have smart kids.

Except we don't know that for sure yet, and there's a lot of psuedoscience involved in IQ and the psychology of intelligence. And before you go on about how IQ is correlated with crime rates and what not, correlation is not causation. There is no mechanism yet provided for any these links.

>If we can wast billions on sending a fancy car to mars, we shouldn't have a problem with the few millions needed here.

The Mars Rovers are a waste of government money, in my opinion. Eugenics will be a ridiculously costly EXPERIMENT (its not an exact science yet, don't even pretend it is. We have virtually no idea about this stuff) that will span generations, and probably won't even work due to the difficulty of predicting genetics and mutations.

>few millions

Try trillions. Not to mention the fact that these people will most likely violently revolt, and go to war. Not to mention a government with that kind of power will likely abuse it like it always does, raise taxes and drive entrepreneurship out of the country.

>The more people we have, the faster we use up our limited resources.

We always find more. And if the day comes when we don't, well, that will mean we are trapped on Earth and were doomed from the start. But at the moment, there is no reason to be worried about resources running out, estimates just keep going up as we find more and innovate, increasing efficiency. There's a shit tonne oil left, farming is advancing rapidly, there's enough land and water for us all. What's stopping us right now are fucking hippies.

[Anonymous No.6251147]

>>6251129
wat the fuck.

[Anonymous No.6251151]

>>6251129

gtfo you /pol/ shitstain

[Anonymous No.6251154]

>sci
>smartest
look at this thread

[Anonymous No.6251157]

>>6251135
It really is.

[Anonymous No.6251161]

>>6251154
/sci/ gets filled with shits from all the other boards because they have a sub-human tier IQ and they all have a retarded question.

See all the cretins from /pol/, for example. Dumb as shit, every single one of them.

[Anonymous No.6251167]

>>6251157
You've probably never read anything more advanced that "Percy Jackson and the Olympians."

[Anonymous No.6251170]

>>6251167
Joke's on you, I've never even read that.

[Anonymous No.6251176]

>>6251136

>irreversible loss of arable land
>irreversible

No. Anything can be made into arable land if you invest enough resources.

> mass species extinctions

Its sad, but too bad. By the way, all your hippie regulations and policies aren't doing jack shit. The Okapi is on the verge of extinction because of them, and gold miners, drug traffickers, and poachers are raping your beloved beasts because you drove the price up.

>loss of ecosystems

Same fucking thing. The environment is most safe in those places where they privately owned. Its sad, but so what. Humans are more important than animals.

>global warming

I thought it was climate change? What's it called this week? Look, I agree with the greenhouse effect, that much is observable, but these Jew scientist running around trying to give very specific descriptions of what will happen 100 years in the future, exactly how we solve these issues in advance, and telling us subsidise green technology (which they've invested in)? We can't even predict the weather for the next weekend usually. Saying you know what the effects of greenhouse gases when the full extent of the Earth's positive and negative feedback mechanisms are not yet known, as well as what is man made and what is natural is hocum. Of course there's always nuclear, but the state-run colleges fear monger about that too. So we're stuck with oil.

>soil pollution

Too bad, that's a side effect of industrial society (not that the cattle-shit encrusted, loose, eroded soil caused by our ancestors cutting down forests to make farms before our population was even 1 Billion was any better). You just have to wait until companies find a viable way to increase their efficiency and reduce waste.

[Anonymous No.6251179]

/sci/ is filled with dumb people and cunts
all the quality posters have left sometime in 2011

[Anonymous No.6251181]

>>6251170
okay. go back to talking about science now, cuz, you know, it's just so important that other subjects pale in comparison to it.

[Anonymous No.6251184]

>>6251146
>We always find more. And if the day comes when we don't, well, that will mean we are trapped on Earth and were doomed from the start.
wow this is dumb
so basically you're saying 'lol don't wori gaiz its impossible to make mistakes'
>doomed from the start
please...
If we get stuck here due to our wasteful nature and humanity goes extinct it's because people fucked up.

[Anonymous No.6251186]

>>6251179
>/s4s/
>not cesspool

okay.

[Anonymous No.6251189]

>>6251186
/s4s/ is decent

[Anonymous No.6251190]

>>6251179

>/b/ not in bottom left corner

[Anonymous No.6251195]

>>6251179
>every board not being in the bottom right corner

[Anonymous No.6251197]

>>6251140

>more intelligent people to pursuade you to do so

What, like Lawrance Krausstein and Carl Saganberg, neither of whom are versed in economics, have a "progressive" bias and provide 0 evidence that their progressive ideas will ever work? Milton Friedman was much more intelligent than you, and yet no-one heeds his words here. Just because Krauss and Sagan were physicists (which, by the way, I was planning to become before I became interested in investment) doesn't mean they know everything about everything ever and are sages. I hate "intellectuals", they're fucking shills who see society as one big list of problems only they can fix, even though they have no idea about them.

>blathering about a liberal agenda is some stupid bullshit.

Are you trying to say there isn't? Are you trying to say affirmative action, and the EU's bill to ban criticising feminism aren't real things? Are you going to deny colleges by and large are run by Marxist professors? Socialism and Marxism are regarded as the "cool" and "intellectual" thing to believe in among these cretins, despite the fact that the creative powers unleashed by capitalism completely overshadow them. No, its YOU who stands on a pillar of ignorance, while your intellectual "heroes" tell you what's right and what's wrong, and what progression is, despite none of them knowing either.

[Anonymous No.6251205]

>>6251201
ok

[Anonymous No.6251201]

>>6250435
>moronic lolbertarian
Lol get the fuck out liberal.

Half of 4chan is basically libertarian.

[Steven Pinker No.6251206]

>>6250478
>but you and your environment make what you are
Steven Jay Gould pls go and take your pseudoscience with you.

[Anonymous No.6251212]

>>6250569

unless there is someone who is so stupid, and now I mean really really stupid, so negatively stupid that it moves the average, and shakes the foundation of human intelligence.

[Steven Pinker No.6251213]

>>6251151
>someone disagreed with me on the internet

oh noes

[Anonymous No.6251215]

>>6251213
you are still a /pol/ shitstain

[Steven Pinker No.6251217]

>>6251215
You will always be a leftist reddit shitstain who's offended by everything.

Eat shit plebian.

[Anonymous No.6251220]

>>6251217
deal with it, loser

[Anonymous No.6251225]

>>6251201
lol this guy. I'm a conservative republican and even I think you're being an idiot

[Steven Pinker No.6251226]

>>6251220
deal with it loser

[Anonymous No.6251229]

>>6251225
>conservative republican
You spelled social democrat wrong.

[Anonymous No.6251232]

>>6251184

We have never run out of resources and there's no reason to believe we ever will. And when they do run out, all that will happen is we'll gently die off until we reach a population the environment can sustain. Stop watching puerile NatGeo "future" documentaries, they don't know what will happen in the future anymore than fucking you or I do. In any case, fear of a future we can't predict is no reason to oppress people. However, I would bet my life that capitalism is our best hope, it will ratchet up efficiency and allow us to become self-sustainable (if that's possible), as well as spur innovation to the point where we can find more resources, rather than government banning us from doing this and doing that and pretending like they're Omniscient when they don't any more about the future of Earth's resources than you. We have no idea how much shit like oil there is, because everytime there's a shortage, companies go and look for more where they hadn't thought of previously and find a shit tonne more. Estimates of how much oil there is left have been going up since the 1850's.

>If we get stuck here due to our wasteful nature and humanity goes extinct it's because people fucked up

I'm saying if capitalism does not uncover a way for us to leave the Earth and colonise elsewhere, than I don't think there is any way. Central planning is a few individuals (who usually squabble, argue and don't really know what they're doing) trying to think of a way to do something, capitalism is everyone pulling together and competing to meet demands, as well as innovate and increase efficiency, without coercion.

[Anonymous No.6251237]

/g/ or /diy/

[Anonymous No.6251236]

/sci/ is the smartest board because I post here. I'm a genius, a prodigy and a polymath. My IQ is higher than 200 and I got 10 PhD's, one from each of the top universities. I'm doing research in triple integrals and I found a proof of 0.999... =/= 1. Not even Jacob Barnett can grasp my intellectual superiority. I'm also an atheist and a liberal. Deal with it, /pol/tards.

[Anonymous No.6251241]

Despite almost everyone here being a fucking moron, it's nice to see people on this board who don't think that science is the only discipline of any value and that science is the only thing that can solve all of our problems.

[Anonymous No.6251243]

>>6251236
>I'm also an atheist and a liberal.

So what you're saying is you've never actually studied economics in your entire life and only believe what the ignorant economic illiterate masses tell you.

You're fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.6251242]

/x/ is smarter than /sci/. You scientists are too closed minded to understand the true nature of consciousness and the afterlife. True wisdom is more than just knowledge of equations.

[Anonymous No.6251244]

>>6250446
This. While /pol/ is full of shitposters who really only discuss things like race while actually saying little about politics. There is definitely a group of /pol/lacks who will make intelligent arguments and constantly back up their claims with sources

[Anonymous No.6251251]

>>6251243

[Anonymous No.6251246]

>>6251244
>while actually saying little about politics.
/pol/ talks about politics all the fucking time you idiot.

>There is definitely a group of /pol/lacks who will make intelligent arguments and constantly back up their claims with sources
Yes, those are the libertarians.

[Anonymous No.6251247]

>>6251242
>too closed minded

I don't think you know what that means.

Watch & learn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

(got this link from /pol/)

[Anonymous No.6251252]

>>6251243
What does economics have to do with atheism?

[Anonymous No.6251258]

>>6251251
If you were trolling, then good job, you got me.

[Anonymous No.6251266]

>>6251243
Leave /sci/ for /pol/ and take your outdated heterodox economics with you.

[Anonymous No.6251272]

>>6251266
Yes, anyone who disagrees with the state and it's "economics" is a heretic heterodox atheist austrian economist and should have their free speech taken away.

Obviously the only way to economic growth is to print money and give it to bankers. Hurrdurrrr

But seriously, kill yourself you piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.6251273]

People who think /pol/ is the smartest board don't browse /pol/ enough.

[Anonymous No.6251280]

>>6251273
People who really believe this are people like >>6251272.
They are /pol/tards.

[Anonymous No.6251284]

>>6251280
>People who really believe this are people like >>>6251272 (You).
>They are /pol/tards.

Wow lol, I guess facts really make you angry.

Enjoy your dogmatic religion.

[Anonymous No.6251283]

>>6251272
>Yes, anyone who disagrees with the state and it's "economics" is a heretic heterodox atheist austrian economist and should have their free speech taken away.
Of course they should

[Anonymous No.6251286]

>>6251283
>Of course they should
Nah, we need to rise up against shitstains like you and slit your throats.

Seriously.

[Anonymous No.6251294]

>>6251286
Good thing your too much of a pussy :D

[Anonymous No.6251296]

>>6251294
>Good thing your too much of a pussy :D

Lel

>implying I have to do anything
Wait until your precious petrodollar collapses shistain, your heads will be on pikes soon enough.

:DDDDDD

[Anonymous No.6251299]

>>6251296
Are you upset at the FACT that your a little bitch?

[Anonymous No.6251300]

>>6251299
#Rekt

[Anonymous No.6251302]

/pol/ is simply hilarious, if its not MUH HAPPENS its retarded rationalizations using quack psuedoscience. /lit/ is and always has been the most intelligent board.

Deal with it you fucking retards.

HaHa

[Anonymous No.6251305]

>>6251299
Lol are you projecting this hard?

[Anonymous No.6251306]

>>6251302
I'm not sure if /lit/ is the most intelligent, but people are at least talking about literature there. /sci/ barely has any real science discussions.

[Anonymous No.6251307]

>>6251302
>quack psuedoscience.

That's right, keep hiding because the "psuedoscience" label, that will prevent you from actually investigating the facts on your own, just listen to what the mob tells you.

>/lit/ is and always has been the most intelligent board.
AHHAHAHHAHAHA
Enjoy your marxism and science hating.

[Anonymous No.6251309]

>>6251302
>/lit/ is and always has been the most intelligent board.
hahahah oh god that's hilarious

[Anonymous No.6251313]

Without a doubt, the two smartest boards on 4chan are /lit/ and /tg/.

[Anonymous No.6251314]

>>6251306

Its because science is a broad and exiting subject and its also a contentious one that everyone gets riled up about. No-one but fucking turbonerds care about literature.

[Anonymous No.6251312]

>>6251305
>m-m-uh projection
Is this the quality argument that happen at /pol/?

[Anonymous No.6251315]

>>6251312
*projection intensifies*

[Anonymous No.6251318]

>>6251315
It's god to know i've won ;)

[Anonymous No.6251316]

>>6251313
/lit/ hate science and logic, they worship anti-intellectualism

They're basically the dumbest board on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.6251317]

>>6251307
Science hating? Have you ever been to /lit?

The only science hating board here on 4chan is /pol/.

So you hate boards where people post in a calm, rational manner, but you like boards where people are utterly irrational and blinded by prejudices and emotions? You truly are a /pol/tard.
And no, I'm not a Marxist at all.

[Anonymous No.6251319]

>>6251317
>Science hating? Have you ever been to /lit?
Yes, it's a leftist shithole who hates science.

I had some faggot called by argument "scientism" meaning it's wrong.

Beyond hilarious.


>The only science hating board here on 4chan is /pol/.
They're the only fucking ones who do science and understand genetics.

[Anonymous No.6251321]

>>6251318
*projection intensifies*

[Anonymous No.6251322]

>>6251317
>boards where people are utterly irrational and blinded by prejudices and emotions
That would be /sci/ and /lit/.

>r-r-race doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.6251323]

>>6250435
>/lit/
>intelligent

[Anonymous No.6251331]

>>6251319
You do know that pretty much every single technology company of importance is headquartered in California? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley#Notable_companies

You do know that the Santa Clara County (Silicon Valley) is even more liberal than Los Angeles?

You do know that 4 of the biggest 5 film production studios in the world are based in California? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_(movie_studios)#The_majors_during_the_Golden_Age

You do know that Silicon Valley and Los Angeles were ranked as respectively 1st and 3rd best places in the world in terms of how good their tech start-up ecosystem is? http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/20/startup-genome-ranks-the-worlds-top-startup-ecosystems-silicon-valley-tel-aviv-l-a-lead-the-way/

You do know that California has the largest amount of top engineering and technology universities in the entire world? Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech and UCLA. http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/faculty-rankings/engineering-and-technology/2013

You do know that California makes 90% of all US wine and is the world's 4th leading leading wine producer after France, Italy and Spain?

You do know that Natural scientists are OVERWHELMINGLY more liberal, even those who work outside of education. http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/

You do know that Palo Alto, California, strongly Democratic, hosts many tech companies and that its residents are among the most educated in the USA?

[Anonymous No.6251332]

>>6251322
I'm the last person who would say that race does not exist. Don't generalize all Democrats.

[Anonymous No.6251333]

>>6251331
>You do know that pretty much every single technology company of importance is headquartered in California?

Yes and they all took influence from Ayn Rand.

Countless companies are moving out of california because of how overly statist it's becoming.

These are facts.

[Anonymous No.6251334]

>>6251331
>california is better than other states

That's nice.

It has nothing to do with anything we're talking about though.

[Anonymous No.6251338]

>>6251333
>Yes and they all took influence from Ayn Rand
A small vocal minority is libertarian. The vast majority votes on the Democratic Party. The internet/computers industry is one of the few industries that gave more money to Obama than to Romney. http://influenceexplorer.com/industries

>Countless companies are moving out of california because of how overly statist it's becoming.
Utterly wrong and not factual. Stop relying on sensationalistic newspapers.
The highest concentration of the tech industry is still located in Silicon Valley, BY FAR. And both San Jose (Silicon Valley) and SF are in the top 5 top performing cities in 2013 (economic/tech growth).
http://www.milkeninstitute.org/pdf/Best-Performing-Cities-Report-2013.pdf

In terms of their tech startup ecosystem, Silicon Valley and LA ranked respectively 1st and 3rd in 2012 http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/20/startup-genome-ranks-the-worlds-top-startup-ecosystems-silicon-valley-tel-aviv-l-a-lead-the-way/

[Anonymous No.6251346]

>>6251319
/lit/ doesn't really hate science, they're just disinterested in it and they hate the scientific community and scientism.
They tend to lash out a bit because they're tired of being called stupid and ignorant simply for holding the liberal arts to a higher importance than the servile arts.

[Anonymous No.6251352]

>>6251338
>The internet/computers industry is one of the few industries that gave more money to Obama than to Romney. http://influenceexplorer.com/industries


Because the government gives them special privileges?
Big oil companies and banks gave obama countless dollars as well.

It's hilarious you think this is a good thing. Liberals are corporate fascists.

>Utterly wrong and not factual.
But it's extremely factual.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/moved-342887-companies-texas.html

[Anonymous No.6251357]

>>6251346
>scientism.

Exactly, they hate science.

>for holding the liberal arts to a higher importance than the servile arts.
lel

[Anonymous No.6251362]

To decide which board is the smartest we first need to define "smart".

[Anonymous No.6251366]

>>6251316
>hate logic
>>6251316
>worship anti-intellectualism
The only worshiping on lit is for Wittgenstein

[Anonymous No.6251370]

>>6251352
>countless
>sensationalistic newspaper
A few companies leaving does not really matter. That has always happened and every state, especially in rough economic times. You must look at net result. In the end, it's the real GDP growth and tech industry growth that counts.
http://www.milkeninstitute.org/pdf/Best-Performing-Cities-Report-2013.pdf
http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/20/startup-genome-ranks-the-worlds-top-startup-ecosystems-silicon-valley-tel-aviv-l-a-lead-the-way/

Real GDP growth data: https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regional/gdp_state/gsp_glance.htm
Notice Texas and DK huge GDP growth (not thanks to oil of course).
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_crpdn_adc_mbbl_m.htm (CRUDE OIL PRODUCTION)

[Anonymous No.6251373]

>>6251357
Science =/= Scientism.

Science is, you know, science.

Scientism is the philosophy that science is the only discipline that is of any value and is the only way for humans to accurately gain knowledge.

You can appreciate the former and hate the latter.

[Anonymous No.6251377]

>>6251373
why does scientism dismiss art?
:3

[Anonymous No.6251378]

>>6251377
because it's fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.6251388]

>>6251377

What? So do adherents of scientism never watch films and listen to music? That's retarded as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6251414]

>>6251370
Yet it's almost impossible to get a job in california and everyone there is homeless.

Also thank you for proving my original point correct,

lol you fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.6251420]

>>6251414
>Yet it's almost impossible to get a job in california

Projecting much? If you have a good degree (engineering from Stanford or MIT for example) and if you are very skilled, it's not hard to find a job. California is indeed a shitty place for mediocre people, those usually end up becoming homeless or gangsters. If you want plebeian blue-collar jobs, move to the South.

California is for the ubermensch creative class only.

:3