/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.6221035]

>Time is not a thing, thus nothing which is, and yet it remains constant in its passing away without being something temporal like the beings in time.

Does /sci/ agree ?

[Anonymous No.6221040]

>>6221035
if it can be measured, it exists.
GTFO with the (shit) attempt at philosophy
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.6221045]

>>6221035
rewrite it using math and in a way that's falsifiable and maybe I will.

[Anonymous No.6221048]

>>6221040
Time is a social construct of the human brain. If human life ended time would not exist, but things like matter still would.

[Anonymous No.6221062]

>>6221048
you're a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.6221077]

>>6221062
if you think he was serous, I have some bad news for you...

[Anonymous No.6221085]

>>6221077
half the tards on here believe shit that is equally stupid. so i wouldnt be surprised if they were serious. seems to be 45% trolls, 45% retards, and maybe 10% people who are actually worth a damn.

[Anonymous No.6221439]

Time is mostly phenomenological (an object of conciousness, pure qualia)
what we measure has nothing to do with our experience of time, in the same way that understanding the molecular orbitals of β-carotene doesnt say anything about our experience of the color red
the red we measure and the time we measure have nothing to do with temporality or redness, which are abstract phenomenological experiences that I think science will never be able to explain because they can not be expressed in scientific terms, or any terms at all
there are two ways of speaking, and each has its domain, the scientific and the poetical, the poetical talks about this irreducible apparently meaningless things as redness or temporality, it is a totally useless language if we understand usefulness as that which science maximizes, most of our problems come from people trying to use scientific language to talk about poetical issues, such as when people try to "prove" the existence of god, or find hidden scientific facts in the quran

but just because poetical speech is useless you shouldnt ignore it unless you are an autistic fucktard, poetical thinking makes our dwelling in this world an enjoyable experience, and enjoyable in its true sense, not the kind of "joy" (artificial euphoria) that is produced when entertainment becomes an industrialized consumer good, this for example is other result of applying scientific thought to areas which should remain poetical, the maximization of enjoyment and the profit we obtain from it, the logical conclusion of a technological society is a meaningless consumer society

obviously the answer is not to destroy all technology and return to the forest to become shamanistic tribes which roam this world with a renewed sense of poetical wonder at an existence we cant control, the only way to save humanity is to understand technology as technology instead of just letting it silently gain control over our existence

[Anonymous No.6221447]

>>6221439
>an object of conciousness, pure qualia)
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fucking troll

[sMk !ArcH9WpopA No.6221457]

>>6221447
I disagree too, but at least make an argument

[Anonymous No.6221465]

>>6221457
hah, like im really gonna read that massive fucking wall of text.

[Anonymous No.6223098]

>>6221048
>Time is a social construct
And with that, credibility rating drops to zero.

[Anonymous No.6223110]

>>6221439

I like your conclusion.

The only way we will truly transcend the current paradigms of our understanding is not to look to science as a new religion.

Science, and its titular method, is merely a cognitive tool. All tools become useless when extended past their effectiveness.

[Anonymous No.6223121]

>>6221439
>not the kind of "joy" (artificial euphoria) that is produced when entertainment becomes an industrialized consumer good

I am willing to bet the reward part of your brain gets stimulated essentially making it identical, the only difference is that you get to sit on some kind of high horse and feel better than everyone.

[Anonymous No.6223124]

>>6221035
>and yet it remains constant in its passing
>time
>constant

>he hasn't heard of relativity and the effects massive bodies have on time

[Anonymous No.6223151]

>>6221085

So, why choose to spend your time with people who you believe are, for the most part, complete fools?

[Anonymous No.6223347]

>>6223151
the same reason that people go to the fucking zoo.
you twats amuse me. that's pretty much it.

[Anonymous No.6223375]

>>6221035

Not really. Its just another direction. You don't find it weird that you can move forward in space, but suddenly its some mysterious shit when you move forward in time.

[Anonymous No.6223381]

>>6221048

Are you suggesting that matter would exist, but suddenly become frozen in time just because humans aren't their to observe time passing? Does local time in the Western Hemisphere suddenly stop when everyone goes to bed? No. There's your answer.

[Anonymous No.6223390]

If time is a dimension like space, why can we freely traverse space (i.e backwards and forwards) but not time? Not a troll or anything, just never understood that.