/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.6201743]

Does it bother you that you're living in an age where death is merely just accepted as how life proceeds?

To not be born in an era of advancement where we've moved past expiry dates, and place living at the utmost priority?

To live 10000 years. To give the magical gift of life to hundreds of little niggers and watch them evolve on different planets. It would be wonderful.

[Anonymous No.6201750]

>>6201743

No.

Sometimes I am motivated by the fact that I will someday descend into eternal repose.

[Anonymous No.6201752]

>>6201743
>where death is merely just accepted as how life proceeds?
that's bs
move out of the south
medicine has been giving us longer and longer lifetimes and healthier and better lifestyles (or at least the know-how about achieving them)
real talk about stopping aging and death has been in science publications for at least 8 years

[Anonymous No.6201755]

No

Advancement not guaranteed

>magic
>evolution
>exo-planet

what happened to the line between fantasy and reality

[Anonymous No.6201759]

>>6201752
not in your lifetime plebeian

>>6201755
what are you talking about

you cant even imagine the implications of exponential advancement of technology in timescales such as 200-500 years, now fucking imagine 10000 or something

[Anonymous No.6201764]

>>6201759
40 years ago people thought we would be colonizing past kuiper belt by now

[Anonymous No.6201769]

>>6201759
>not in your lifetime plebeian
what? what no in my lifetime? at least learn to post, retard
longer lifetimes have been a thing since the industrial revolution, that is well BEFORE my lifetime, and the life expectancy keep rising if you live in a developed country
stopping death by biological degradation and the overall aging process might not be something i see in my lifetime, yet research is going on about it, there is no such thing about death and aging being 'merely accepted as how life proceeds'

[Anonymous No.6201775]

>>6201769
i dont mean longer life you soybean munching kike

i mean death being really taken as seriously as it is. Life being elongated to great magnitudes, with great measures to avoid death.

[Anonymous No.6201777]

>>6201775
>i dont mean longer life
>>6201743
>To live 10000 years.

[Anonymous No.6201779]

>>6201775

So you're...agreeing with him by being antagonistic towards him?

Shietttt.

But yea, fuck death. It shames me that as an anti-deathist I have to FIGHT my position in society.

[Anonymous No.6201790]

>>6201743

death is the meaning of life. if we couldn't die, there'd be nothing to distinguish us from being-in-itself.

[Anonymous No.6201802]

>>6201790
dasein moved from mortality to lonliness

[Anonymous No.6201814]

>>6201790
you dont understand

How do you know that the ultimate fate of the universe isn't for humans to conquer it?

Given billions of years of evolution of one civilization that becomes space faring (After becoming space faring, with enough resources you're pretty much good forever), how do you know humans won't be using wormholes like fuck to warp around and shit?

[Anonymous No.6201820]

>>6201743
>wanting to prolong life
Why? So that resource leeches like yourself can be all willy nilly with what you do and only progress us towards our demise?

[Anonymous No.6201827]

>>6201764

40 years ago, the idea of a handheld device that could access the entirety of human knowledge and talk face to face in real time video across the other planet was dismissed as total fiction, even if it was even conceived of at all.

Just shows that you can't predict everything.

[Anonymous No.6201835]

>>6201814
>conquer the universe

i have no idea what this means.

what it seems like to me is that things are happening randomly and have always been happening randomly. the only certainty you'll ever experience is death. precluding this possibility makes you no different than a mere object. you're just indefinitely manipulating the accident that is the world by accident. death gives you a place in the world, life doesn't.

[Anonymous No.6201839]

>>6201835
If this really is the end be all, it is fun to discuss what the fuck could go on after we die.

[Anonymous No.6201853]

Thinking about it makes me want to drop everything and just study and research cellular biology and all the related disciplines regarding biological rejuvenation. Sacrificing 1 lifespan on the off chance that you get 10 in return sounds good.

Then I realize there are people already doing that and the results are measly. Seems like the SENS Foundation concentrates on promoting their ideas rather than doing some fucking science.

[Anonymous No.6201857]

>To give the magical gift of life to hundreds of little niggers and watch them evolve on different planets

[Anonymous No.6201863]

Why would you ever want to live long? 100 years might be a bit short, but I wouldn't want to live past maybe 200 years max. The human mind is only capable of retaining so much, and assuming the "cure" to aging actually keeps you from getting old, you'd essentially be senile for all but the very beginning of your life. And the concept of living forever is the single most terrifying concept I could ever think of. I've already completely come to terms with death and fear nothing but the potential pain before it, although that is completely superficial. What's the point in running from the inevitable at that point?

[Anonymous No.6201872]

>>6201863
>accepted early death as inevitability
>does not want to see the wonders of humanity in the future
Get a load of this luddite faggot. Your life must be incredibly shitty if the concept of living long is terrifying to you.

[Anonymous No.6201909]

>>6201752
>Stoping aging and death

Why would anyone want this? Could you imagine living in a world where nobody died?

[Anonymous No.6201941]

>>6201909

Yeah, who'd want a world where Isaac Newton had been doing physics for 350 years, or where Archimedes had been studying mathematics and engineering for over 2000 years.

Fuck that world amirite?

[Anonymouѕ No.6201947]

>>6201909
I cannot imagine a world where no one dies, but I can imagine many worlds.

[Anonymous No.6201954]

>>6201863
Because your idea of "life" is completely relevant to the age you live in. You don't know how life will be experienced by the time we can keep people living hundreds of years.

For all you know, any form of negativity could be eliminated from whatever alien utopian society, and life is enjoyable indefinitely.

[Anonymous No.6201964]

>>6201863
The thing is you're taking the "life" thing a little bit too literally. What I am implying in my original post, is a world where the highest level of cognitive ability is retained, through science, for a much extended period of time. Imagine being 20 for the next 1000 years! You would undoubtedly be able to find something interesting to you and put in a massive amount of time and work into it

[Anonymous No.6201973]

>>6201909
Well that's the thing. Society (and its regulations) will strictly conform to the idea of "no lethality" due to the heightened priority of life.

An example would be living in a town where everything was covered in child safety equipment, and all technology was consciously developed to avoid any kind of fatalities.

Now, we think of death as trivial. Expand on it and you see that you really could be losing a precious gift that will be extended indefinitely when technology gets there

[Anonymous No.6201982]

>>6201941
You presume that they would be studying for a thousand years if they knew that they would live for longer than that. The inevitability of Death creates incentive to be great within that short period of time. When you throw away limits and challange you also throw away drive.

You also forget the issue overpopulation, and how crowded the world would be in just 50 years if no one died. Oh, right. But we'd have mars colonies by then and technology to sustain everything.

[Anonymous No.6201988]

>>6201982
You are still comparing this society to the one i am envisioning

Overpopulation will not be a problem. Everything will be regulated. We'll be a space faring species, with more than enough technology to comfortably regulate birthrates (Maybe birth will be regulated to a once a lifetime thing, where you can only have one spawn).

Earth is fucking big You don't realize how fucking big it is. It is fucking big. When the population is big enough that urban centers in the comfortable living areas of every continent are saturated, technology will play a role in making the harsher places urban centers as well (think northern canada, russia, greenland)

it will be a luxury to be near the equator.

[Anonymous No.6202013]

>>6201988
Even if we would have the means of creating such a society 100 years from now, assuming that the creating would take place is still a best case scenario.

You seem so certain that people would treat death and suffering as something of a horror story. I would assume the opposite.

[Anonymous No.6202030]

>>6202013

>You seem so certain that people would treat death and suffering as something of a horror story. I would assume the opposite.

[Anonymous No.6202109]

>>6202030
Not him but using a reaction image with no backup argument just makes it looks like you're doing damage control.

[Anonymous No.6202192]

>>6201982
Nah I reject that, people don't do great things because they know they will die someday because when you get right down to it they don't know they will die someday. People don't even think about death until it approaches

[Violent Simians Guy No.6202316]

>>6201743

I'm not bothered anymore once I realized that Humans are fairly primitive for a higher lifeform. Our billionaires are spending their remaining life times just trying to accumulate more wealth. So they die rich. BIG WHOOP. They're still fucking DEAD. In fact, the average billionaire dies at about the same age as a healthy middle class person does, who has thousands to millions of times less wealth.

That billionaires haven't lead the charge into serious life extension, shows the rest of us that there's no hope for Humanity. We're violent simians. Our intelligence is a thin veneer of technical ability over a bulk mass of surging hormonal instincts of Fight, Fuck, Eat, Sleep.

If intelligences out in the universe are like us, then NO FUCKING WONDER why we can't see stellar engineering at all. Races never leave their homeworlds. They're all too busy fighting, fucking, eating and sleeping. The animal rules, not the mind. Biology is supreme.

[Anonymous No.6203195]

Life needs death to make it precious.
Either way, even if we do invent it, it'll probably be limited to an elite caste.

[Anonymous No.6203204]

>>6203195
>Life needs death to make it precious.

Yes, those grapes were probably sour anyway.

[Anonymous No.6203794]

>>6202316

>tfw when you realize your just a raging sack of hormones

[Anonymous No.6203799]

>>6203794


>tfw when basic grammar fails

[Anonymous No.6203868]

i hope all of you realize
to achieve this immortality dream
you CANNOT have universal healthcare, it just isnt doesnt give enough return for investment in health research to be worth it

[Anonymous No.6203896]

I don't even understand why we bother living. We will cease to exist some day anyways.

It's like if some higher being offered you to live a month in your ideal world but afterwards you would forget about it. But if you forgot about it did it ever happen? Whats the point? Maybe it already happened to you but you have forgotten about it. Same with life. After your life ends you will have forgotten about it. So you have basicly never lived. This is hat bugs me.

[Anonymous No.6203906]

>>6201743
I sure that CVS clerk and everyone else like her really wants to live for 10,000 years.

At least if you claim immortality she can get a new job as a vampire slayer.

[Anonymous No.6203911]

>>6201827
>40 years ago, the idea of a handheld device that could access the entirety of human knowledge and talk face to face in real time video across the other planet was dismissed as total fiction, even if it was even conceived of at all.
LOL, the government and rich people had that shit 40 years ago.
>1973

[Anonymous No.6203920]

>>6202316

So you're saying Skynet was trying to save us by giving us a common enemy and a purpose? That is deep man.

[Anonymous No.6204029]

I'm okay with dying. I just want to significantly contribute to the scientific community first.