Does light travel through space?

[Anonymous No.6138307]

Alright, guys. I've been thinking about this, but I can't find any sources to prove or disprove my conclusion.

If photons do not experience time, they must also not travel through space.

From a photon's perspective, because it moves at light speed, all distances are infinitely contracted.

So, if a photon is traveling from Mars to Jupiter, it actually covers no distance and is there instantly. (Remember, this is from a photon's relativistic perspective!)

Now, because time and space are actually the same (the faster you travel through space, the quicker you pass through time and vice versa), then if you are not traveling through time, you must also not be traveling through space.

Final conclusion, photons do not travel through space or time.

Can anyone confirm or reject my conclusion? Source appreciated.

[Anonymous No.6138316]

>>6138307
In our (and any possible) reference frame, photons transfer energy from one place to another. You don't need to look at it any other way.

[Anonymous No.6138325]

>>6138316
Actually this is vital to something else I've been thinking about.
Can you provide an answer in a way so that it is more closely related to my question?

Thank you for the response.

[Anonymous No.6138333]

>>6138325
If you are fiddling with the numbers in a completely naive way, then yes, shifting into the infinite momentum reference frame photons do not 'move' and everything is in the same location. But you shouldn't use the infinite momentum frame because it gives no useful results and is often misleading.

[Anonymous No.6138340]

>>6138333
Hey, thanks. That's all I needed to hear.
I needed an affirmative.

>333
Also, nice trips.

[Anonymous No.6138380]

>From a photon's perspective, because it moves at light speed

If you could form a sensical reference frame in which a photon is stationary the photon wouldn't move at any speed. Any particle is at rest in it's rest frame, the photon is not special in this regard other than no rest frame being possible in SR.

[Anonymous No.6138397]

>>6138307
If the holographic principle is correct, then space & time might not be fundamental, rather they emerge out of the interaction of particles.

[Anonymous No.6138402]

>>6138397
>If the holographic principle is correct
it's just a mathematical function, it's certainly correct. What's controversial is whether it can be applied to reality.

[Anonymous No.6138440]

>>6138402
>it's just a mathematical function, it's certainly correct
No, the AdS-CFT correspondence isn't mathematically confirmed.

[Anonymous No.6138451]

>>6138397
>>6138402
>>6138440
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.6138461]

>>6138451
A mathematical principle that can be shown to explain unexplained signals from the edge of the universe is considered /x/?

Please feel free to explain how the mathematical holographic principle and the GEO600 signals are not /sci/

[Anonymous No.6138471]

>>6138380
You completely missed the rest of the sentence.

The only reason I said that was to establish that no distance is covered from the photon's frame.

[Anonymous No.6138470]

>>6138461
>edge of the universe
>>>/x/
>GEO600 actually detecting gravity waves
not even once

[Anonymous No.6138473]

>>6138440
you're completely retarded

[Anonymous No.6138479]

>>6138470
Yeah still not explaining how its /x/ material.

The holographic principle is mathematical.
What signals the GEO600 picked up are still unexplained but do seem to fit with the holographic principle.

[Anonymous No.6138509]

...I thought there was no edge to the universe.

[Anonymous No.6138510]

>>6138509
There isn't, but pop/sci/fags believe everything they see on tv.

[Anonymous No.6138548]

>>6138510
And in non popsci actual scientists refer to the furthest parts of our observable universe as the edge, not a literal meaning but just a word often used instead of saying the edge of our observable universe.
Go into a observatory and say edge and they will know what you mean.

[Anonymous No.6138554]

>>6138548
No they won't, because the further we look out the further we are looking back in time, there is no way to look at "the edge of the universe"

Also
>astronomers
>actual scientists
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[Anonymous No.6138556]

If seen from the photons reference frame yes however remember that photons only travel with c in a vacuum. If there is any translucent matter like say glass air or water the speed of the photon slows down. How would you explain that?

[Anonymous No.6138560]

>>6138556
Opticbooms are awesome!

[Anonymous No.6138565]

>>6138560
Bremsstrahlung!

[Anonymous No.6138568]

>>6138565
Cherenkov Radiation!