For the 30 years of GNU, I'd like to thank every developer of the GNU R language that makes my daily life at work so pleasant. Also, free software for science thread.

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Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:28:46 2013 No.6054780 [Reply] [Original]

For the 30 years of GNU, I'd like to thank every developer of the GNU R language that makes my daily life at work so pleasant.

Also, free software for science thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:30:45 2013 No.6054786 inb4 >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:30:47 2013 No.6054789 >>6054786 What the fuck? Why would anyone redirect R to /x/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:36:16 2013 No.6054817 File: 40 KB, 366x185, ParaNormalDistribution.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6054789 Don't you know?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:36:45 2013 No.6054819 >>6054789 Everyone knows GNU was developed by aliens

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:38:15 2013 No.6054825 >>6054817 lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:42:16 2013 No.6054839 >>6054780 OP, what do you do? I'm in a stats program now and I'm learning R and SAS, though it seems like most jobs want you to know SAS

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:43:48 2013 No.6054845 >>6054839 I'm an econometrician. If you can avoid using SAS, do it, it's very, very shitty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:44:45 2013 No.6054849 >>6054819 Was Richard Stallman in contact with aliens or is he an alien?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:45:46 2013 No.6054853 >>6054845 lol, I'm going into biostats so it seems kind of unavoidable

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:47:44 2013 No.6054857 >>6054853 I thought that in biostats R was very used? Also Python. Was I lied to?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:48:16 2013 No.6054862 As a physics student, I'd like to thank to every developer of GNU Octave, because they made a pretty good project that I use for my calculations. I would also like to thank to every free software developer because their work really helps people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:50:18 2013 No.6054870 >>6054862 I second this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:52:45 2013 No.6054878 >>6054857 I know that R is used some, but in almost all the job listing I've seen (at least for pharmaceutical jobs) they want proficiency in SAS

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:54:45 2013 No.6054882 File: 190 KB, 1000x898, 1377123985303.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6054780 >GNU >Free No, gbt >>>/g/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:54:45 2013 No.6054884 >>6054849 definitely giant lizard

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 15:55:16 2013 No.6054890 >>6054862 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8/10, nice troll

Anonymous Sat Sep 28 16:00:17 2013 No.6054907

>>6054882
>unless you do what I say

Which is basically: do what the fuck you want with the software, but don't be a dick and prevent others to do the same.

The GNU project is exactly in line with the scientifical method. I fail to see how scientists could be against GNU. Unless you're a paid MS shill.

Anonymous Sat Sep 28 18:26:37 2013 No.6055272
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>>6054907
>but don't be a dick
and do things I don't like.

Do what every you like (but sue me) is called the BSD license which is an actual free (copy center) license.

Anonymous Sat Sep 28 18:32:06 2013 No.6055289

>>6054907
>but don't be a dick and prevent others to do the same

How do I magically destroy said software's source code by using it as a trivially small component in my simulator code that I released/sell as closed source binaries? It still exist on github or whatever for all to use.

Take your filthy communistic licenses to back to >>>/pol/

Anonymous Sat Sep 28 18:41:35 2013 No.6055332

>>6055289
You profit from the work of others for your own benefit and don't give back to the community. Also, your code is probably buggy and shitty, and if you don't release it, I have to trust that you didn't make any mistakes, which is clearly impossible for a faggot which such little intellect as yourself.

>>6055272
>wanting companies to steal your code

Anonymous Sat Sep 28 18:56:06 2013 No.6055388

>>6055332
When you grow up and mommy stops breastfeeding you, you're going to need go out and get a job. Code is released as open sourced because

1) It's simple as fuck so why make others recreate the wheel when needing it as a subroutine
2) There's utterly no viable market in it and/or you can't be bothered into trying to sell it for peanuts
3) You want others to use the code

Companies using the code in any three cases hardly counts as stealing or ripping off. Take your cookie cutter GNU catchphrases and straw-men back to >>>/g/nufags

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:00:35 2013 No.6055409 File: 5 KB, 248x249, 1378728062611s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6055388 Oh wow, you really are a retarded faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:14:30 2013 No.6055451 >>6055332 >>wanting companies to steal your code Don't be a fucking moron. Your code is still available to everybody via the same channels that the `companies' got it. The only code that's being stolen is THEIR modifications, THEIR code.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:20:31 2013 No.6055472 GNUtards think that they're "keeping their code free" because they're the same dumbasses who think piracy is theft. Too stupid to see the difference between theft and copying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:23:59 2013 No.6055482 >>6055472 Gnutards are actually for file sharing you dumb twat.

Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:29:02 2013 No.6055499

>>6055482
Sure they are.
So long as any changes to the file or files that reference it belong to the self proclaimed Jesus of software RMS Richard Marx Stalin.
Oh, and that anything associated with such files changes its name to include GNU at the beginning.
Oh, and you give them your first born child and your soul.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:33:00 2013 No.6055510 GNU philosophy: You take a photo of a crowd and I'm in that crowd then the photo belongs to me. NO EXCEPTIONS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:34:30 2013 No.6055516 >>6055499 There's so much misinformation in this post that I am not even sure if you're really that stupid or just trolling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:35:29 2013 No.6055520 File: 254 KB, 679x693, GNU Manifesto.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6055516 GNU is communism

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:35:29 2013 No.6055521 >>6055516 The first two are true, albeit exaggerations. The third is obviously a joke. You autistic or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:39:00 2013 No.6055526 File: 35 KB, 793x1972, I didn't leave the old country for this one to be taken over by dirty hippies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6055516 >Believing in GNU

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:39:59 2013 No.6055527 Daily dose. Stallman having a tantrum on stage. This is /g/'s hero

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:40:59 2013 No.6055528 >>6055510 More like, you take a picture of me and I don't charge you for it then you can't charge others for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:41:59 2013 No.6055529 Daily dose. Stallman having a tantrum on stage. This is /g/'s hero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKbfk4kXK-M

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:42:30 2013 No.6055536 >>6055528 >you for it then you can't charge others for it. No. You have no expectation of privacy in public so they can sell your image all they want.

Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:43:59 2013 No.6055538

>>6055528
>More like, you take a picture of me and I don't charge you for it then you can't charge others for it.
But that's fucking wrong, you moron.
You CAN sell GPL software, you just have to license all your code using the GPL.
There's nothing preventing companies from profiting off your code at all. I could legally sell Ubuntu CDs if I wanted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:44:30 2013 No.6055544 File: 5 KB, 262x292, 0000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6054780 >CS gtfo

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:45:01 2013 No.6055546 >>6055544 >look at me I'm 12

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:47:00 2013 No.6055551 >>6055546 You should not be here. 4chan is 18+

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:47:00 2013 No.6055552 >>6055544 >le epic mmaymay

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:48:30 2013 No.6055555 >>6055551 >reading comprehensiom

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:49:29 2013 No.6055559 >>6055555 Please stop abusing the quote function.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:49:59 2013 No.6055558 numpy/scipy guy right now. how is R compared to MATLAB, numpy/scipy, c?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:50:59 2013 No.6055562 >>6055558 >c Why the fuck would anyone on /sci/ code in C instead of C++?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:51:30 2013 No.6055565 >>6055559 Hello! Why? Best!

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>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 19:57:00 2013 No.6055580 >>6055558 R is very useful if you do a lot of stats. If you write your own routines/simulations that are not based on stats (like optimization stuff), or if you manipulate a lot of arrays, I think it's best to continue using scipy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 20:13:30 2013 No.6055612 >>6055562 why would I use c++ when I'm trying to do low level code? I have structs. what more do I need? also the syntax is fucking terrible std::blah blah, what's that other one i hate...can't remember don't need namespace don't need objects why c++?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 20:15:29 2013 No.6055613 >>6055580 this is basically why I switched to scipy from MATLAB. I needed numerical solvers but I also needed objects and functions to generate my ODE before I get there. symbols in matlab started breaking because my functions were too long

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 20:37:30 2013 No.6055662 >>6055612 >when I'm trying to do low level code >C C isn't low level code

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 28 21:05:01 2013 No.6055714 >>6054786 >>>/g/

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 01:54:16 2013 No.6056168
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Ignore the retard in the thread complaining about GNU. Dude is clearly brain damaged and doesn't understand what free software means.

>>6055558
Check this out anon.

http://cran.r-project.org/doc/contrib/R-and-octave.txt

Octave is an Gnu project very similar to Matlab. It uses the same syntax and a lot of programs written for one are portable to the other. Octave however is just maintained by like one guy and I guess he's really under -appreciated. Anyway, I use Octave a lot for machine learning and prototyping algorithms and I had to take a class that used R. I found that guide helpful. R is very similar to Octave except it's weird and has lots of stats functions baked in.

As far as C/C++, R and Matlab have very fast matrix multiplication libraries (unlike shit ass java). Check out the first reply here.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/529457/performance-of-java-matrix-math-libraries

I've never used scipy or numpy and find python disgusting.

>>6055562
bignumber division, cryptographic primitives, some number theory shit, etc.. At least for the pure math majors. The science majors probably can get by with TI83+ BASIC.

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 03:08:45 2013 No.6056227

I tried reading R's wikipedia but I'm not sure I get it. What's the difference between R and other statistic packages like Minitab? (e.g. what are the advantages?) Also, how hard would it be to learn R? I know basics of C programming (loops, arrays, a little about pointers and structures) if that helps.

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 03:42:16 2013 No.6056267
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Oh boy, a free software thread.

>>6054907

That post gave me freedom.

Yes indeed, proprietary software works against the spirit of education and free inquiry.

Thank you based R

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 04:27:35 2013 No.6056354 >>6055562 why would anyone code in C++ ? Only because so much previous work was done in this shitty language ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 04:32:36 2013 No.6056359 >>6056354 At least we can all agree that Java is garbage for /sci/ence.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 04:35:06 2013 No.6056361 >>6056359 Java is a toy to learn programming. But at least you can debug the programs

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 04:38:06 2013 No.6056362 >>6056361 >take algorithms and data structures course that uses Java >write all the data structures using linked lists >every other sane language uses stacks What is this bullshit. Fuck Java, even Octave runs faster than that shit.

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 06:55:10 2013 No.6056543

>>6056227
>What's the difference between R and other statistic packages like Minitab? (e.g. what are the advantages?)

I don't know Minitab but one of the main advantages of R is its huge, helpful community which develop an enormous amount of packages that extend R's capacities.

Also, l find R rather easy, it's an interpreted language and as such easier to learn than say, C.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 08:23:07 2013 No.6056661 >Why the fuck would anyone on /sci/ code in C instead of C++? A C compiler exists for my target architecture and a C++ compiler does not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 08:33:41 2013 No.6056672 >>6055662 C is one step over assembly. I guess I could code in assembly... But I like c syntax and having real variable names.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 08:49:12 2013 No.6056700 >>6056672 well you can get away with it if you know how to use an optimizing compiler.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 08:49:39 2013 No.6056701 Gnuplot i found out about it in my third year of uni. terrifying, how much time i wasted before, making plots in open office

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 09:00:22 2013 No.6056723 GNU is the EA of the open source world

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 10:03:41 2013 No.6056813 >>6056672 >C is one step over assembly. So is C++

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 10:13:10 2013 No.6056824

>>6056813
c++ is built on c, but it's not as low level as c.
c++ is one level up, that's why the name is what it is.

it also has shit syntax and a bunch of features I just don't need.
If I'm going to code in a c family language my first choice is c. I might learn c# later, but I'm done with c++ for a long while.

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 10:17:10 2013 No.6056830

>>6056700
I have no idea how to use an optimizing compiler.
it took me forever to figure out how to link files, let alone optimizing.
do you mean coding in c++ or assembly?
assembly doesn't look too impossible, I could probably figure it out.
C just looks pretty, c++ does not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 10:23:42 2013 No.6056843 tf has gnu to do with R?

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 11:00:54 2013 No.6056924

>>6056701
Yeah I love gnuplot, and I get compliments on my graphs/plots built with gnuplot all the time.

Also, you capitalized both "gnuplot" and "I" wrong. Normally it wouldn't matter, but I was at a conference where some autist flipped his shit about the spelling and pronunciation of gnuplot. It was hilarious, and I imagine that's what most from /sci/ and /g/ would be like in person.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 12:41:57 2013 No.6057155 >>6056924 how did the person pronounce it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 13:02:51 2013 No.6057191 >>6056843 R is made by the GNU project. It's official name is GNUR.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 13:09:22 2013 No.6057205 >>6057191 *Its

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 13:13:29 2013 No.6057215 >>6056227 I believe it is very very similar to S/S+

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 16:34:30 2013 No.6057692

>>6056843
>tf has gnu to do with R?
>>6057215
this

Originally there was a programming language called S made by Bell Labs or IBM or some shit (I forget and don't want to look it up right now). Anyway, shit was expensive and universities, researchers, etc.. had to pay a lot for it so they decided to make an free software alternative.

R is named after S.

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 22:37:28 2013 No.6058402

>>6056824
>c++ is built on c, but it's not as low level as c.
>c++ is one level up, that's why the name is what it is.

You're retarded, C++ is C -minus it's broken ass const/void*/(void) vs ()/etc syntax's with a few new syntax's added. C++ isn't compiled into C, then into Assembly, then into Machine Code. C++ is as low level as C.

>it also has shit syntax

C++ syntax is 99.9995% C syntax

>and a bunch of features I just don't need.

No one forces you to use them and them being there doesn't hurt you in anyway whatsoever. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C++#Philosophy
>Programmers should be free to pick their own programming style, and that style should be fully supported by C++.
>Allowing a useful feature is more important than preventing every possible misuse of C++.
>Any features that you do not use you do not pay for (e.g. in performance).
>There should be no language beneath C++ (except assembly language).

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 22:50:30 2013 No.6058412

>>6058402
C++ was actually originally implemented as a C preprocessor.

Frankly, we might be better off if it stayed that way. It has got too fucking complicated for my taste, and most of that complexity isn't for anything that's needed or even useful. It's just guys throwing more shit in because they feel like it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 23:09:58 2013 No.6058429 >>6056359 C# is like a Java but without the shitty bits and with all the good bits. Save for the fact that it's tied to .NET. Whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 23:13:16 2013 No.6058433 >Not doing everything in LISP

Anonymous Sun Sep 29 23:17:17 2013 No.6058441

>>6058433
At one point during the height of the cold war, US intelligence was able to intercept part of a program from the Soviets. They only got the last 400 characters, but it told them one important thing:

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The soviets were using Lisp.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 29 23:21:16 2013 No.6058446 >>6054780 General CS discussion here >>6058445 So this thread is free for R and free software discussion

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 01:40:14 2013 No.6058627 Do any of you use Julia for real work? Or is it too early to jump on the bandwagon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 02:04:15 2013 No.6058651 >>6058441 kek

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 02:05:13 2013 No.6058652

Geogebra is kick ass. It's pretty much all the basic math/geometry stuff from autocad so you can use it to explain stuff to others, prove geometric theorems, and do some other sophisticated things.

If you're doing group theory then there's this guy named Nathan Carter who wrote a free software program that generates Cayley diagrams for all kinds of groups, shows normal subgroups, partitions, mappings, direct product, and a ton of other stuff. It's absolutely awesome. He also wrote a book on doing group theory with graph theory. Links to both.

http://groupexplorer.sourceforge.net/
http://web.bentley.edu/empl/c/ncarter/vgt/gallery.html

There's Gephi which is an open source graph viz platform. Unfortunately I haven't gotten around to messing with it though so I don't know if it's just open source or actually free software or even if it's any good.
http://gephi.org/

Jenn 3D is a really cool app that lets you view higher dimensional polytopes projected onto 3D space. You can fly through them and rotate them and shit, it's totally fucking awesome.
http://www.math.cmu.edu/~fho/jenn/

There's also Sage Mathematics which as far as I can make out is supposed to be like an open source alternative to mathematica/matlab (but moreso than octave). I haven't played with it though.

http://www.sagemath.org/

What do you guys use for drawing graphics for use in LaTeX files? I just set up Ipe7 but I haven't actually had time to play with it. It seems a lot like geogebra, though that made me wonder if geogebra could output in .eps format as well.

http://ipe7.sourceforge.net/
http://lamut.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de/mediawiki/ipe7/index.php/Main_Page

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 02:32:02 2013 No.6058684

>GOAT Tier
R with I/O packages, memory efficient packages, Hadoop/Oracle connectors, and MapReduce Job Creators/SQL job creator packages. Hadoop for ETL and Oracle final database creation. Also SAS for sorting and merging.
>Good Tier
SAS with Hadoop and Oracle connectors (SAS can automatically make MapReduce jobs and connects to Oracle real well).
>Alright Tier
SAS for ETL+Analysis and mySQL for final database.
>Shit Tier
SAS base
>I think I understand statistical programming/Beyond Shit Tier
R with a bunch of memory inefficient programs or using the Rbase (Good luck with that faggot)
>Holy fuck the whole database has to be in memory?/ Don't even get me started Tier
Stata, SPSS, JMP
PROTIP: SAS is better at sorting and merging than R. End of discussion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 02:36:32 2013 No.6058693 >>6058684 What is GOAT? I've seen other boards use this term but mostly /tv/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 03:30:25 2013 No.6058730 >>6058684 >Using SASfor anything, at all Shiggy Honestly, you have no excuse to use this crap. If you want to manipulate data, clean it, rotate it, etc, use Python+Pandas.

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 05:44:05 2013 No.6058863
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I noticed recently that I barely use my windows computer for anything but browsing 4chan anymore. I do all my math/work/research/whatever in linux. Mostly because it all just werks and is easier to manage.

Have any of you guys noticed a similar trend? Why isn't there a repository for maintaining up to date binary packages for free software on windows like all the linux distros have?

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 05:50:35 2013 No.6058865

>>6058863
I haven't used Windows for anything at all for the past 5 years. I can do anything I need on linux distros so why bother with windows.

>Why isn't there a repository for maintaining up to date binary packages for free software on windows like all the linux distros have?

I don't know, but with the direction windows is taking, this sure as hell isn't happening.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 06:00:06 2013 No.6058874 >>6058865 >I don't know, but with the direction windows is taking, this sure as hell isn't happening. What do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 06:29:07 2013 No.6058894 >>6058730 >poster is from a australia

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 07:02:36 2013 No.6058913

>>6058874
Because if you distribute software through the Windows store (which will very certainly become the only means to distribute software on windows some day) you'll have to abide by the guidelines which put restrictions on what you can distribute. Also, you have to pay 99$ to get a developer's account. For now, there could theoretically be a repo maintained by a third-party but for how long?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 13:27:25 2013 No.6059357 >>6058943 >windows >driver support Have fun digging through random websites for drivers and downloading shady install files for drivers.

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 13:28:25 2013 No.6059358

>>6058913
>For now, there could theoretically be a repo maintained by a third-party but for how long?
Well this is what I mean. The closest thing to it is Ninite but compared to an actual linux repo it's not only incredibly small but also works kind of shitty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 1 05:28:53 2013 No.6060832 bumping for gnu

Anonymous Tue Oct 1 09:24:14 2013 No.6061083

As much as I like R (OP here), it's sometimes tough to find good examples to get you started. I'm having some trouble finding out how to use the gmm() command from the gmm package which seems to require a very precise syntax for the moments. I was thinking about writing some kind of book under the GNU Free Documentation License with «real world» examples and lots of code snippets that could complements the packages documentation.

Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 1 18:31:59 2013 No.6061870 >>6061083 Go for it anon. I don't know why anyone wouldn't be in support of this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 1 18:34:59 2013 No.6061874 >>6054849 He eats toenails so he's some kind amoeba.

Anonymous Tue Oct 1 20:31:59 2013 No.6062181

>>6058730
>Python+Pandas
>Not even an I/O recommendation or chunkfile recommendation
Aww look at the little college student. Come back in ten years after you deal with terabyte size databases. You may think you are edgy as fuck because you use only FOSS, but at the end of the day, SAS is the better at sorting datasets and merging datasets. That's all I use it for (both of which are in the SASbase).

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 1 21:07:25 2013 No.6062258 So, is R like Prolog? >>6061083 I would enjoy such a book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 1 21:24:48 2013 No.6062300 I use it constantly in geostats, probably any stats i guess

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 1 21:32:49 2013 No.6062323 God Of All ______________

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 1 21:37:50 2013 No.6062330 >tfw no qt r gf http://en.nothingisreal.com/wiki/Why_I_Will_Never_Have_a_Girlfriend

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 02:25:38 2013 No.6062716 >>6062181 Since you have no problem with proprietary then you may want to checkout Google BigQuery. It's better for working with terabytes then any standalone program could be. https://cloud.google.com/products/big-query

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