/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.6009133]

opinions on the black knight satellite? its rumored to be an alien satellite or ship. some say its a heat blanket from one of the shuttle missions to construct the space station.

[Anonymous No.6009135]

Never heard of it. Must be alien.

[Anonymous No.6009140]

>>6009135
google it real quick look at all the pics of it its really interesting

[Anonymous No.6009142]

looks like a piece of space junk.

second guess is US military tech

[Anonymous No.6009144]

>>6009133
Swamp gas

[Anonymous No.6009147]

>>6009133
The anecdotes are more interesting than the pictures. Pictures are almost certainly spacejunk.

[Anonymous No.6009154]

>>6009142
>>6009147
space junk would be such a disappointment, what makes you think its space junk?

[Anonymous No.6009160]

>>6009154
>what makes you think its space junk?

It's shape is completely fucked up.

No one manufactures something useful in such a fucked up shape.

You can take a collection of the pictures and have an algorithm generate a 3D representation of it.

[Anonymous No.6009163]

>>6009154
>what makes you think its space junk?
Because it looks like a sligthly bent panel-like object that spins and have no features that suggests it's a purpose built and designed vessel of any kind.

[Anonymous No.6009164]

>>6009154

Clearly looks like some kind of solar panel that has folded up and torn.

[Anonymous No.6009167]

these are just pictures of a space shuttle thermal blanket

[Anonymous No.6009168]

>>6009164
>>6009163
>>6009160
some of our satellites, in the way they are today dont look very defined in a way to indicate what their purpose is, maybe this thing if it was alien isnt a ship. what "if" voyager eventually got stuck in some planets orbit and trillions of years later that planet developed intelligent life, what would they think of our beaten up satellite?
the black knight disappears and re appears at regular intervals and even changed its orbital direction once. from west to east to east to west.

[Anonymous No.6009171]

>>6009154
also the orientation is really shitty.
in one of the pictures it kinda looks like the nose is straight down.
but in that series of pictures it looks like it's rotating uncontrollably.

[Anonymous No.6009172]

>>6009168

You are a moron and don't belong in a 'science' forum. Go back to a 'paranormal' area when the rest of the retard children are.

[Anonymous No.6009176]

>>6009172
please explain how im a moron, i came to a science board hoping for a scientific explanation of why its space junk or why its a thermal blanket. not to be called a moron, you cant just automatically say "space junk" without reasoning
>>6009171 if the pictures were taken in series it might be rotating uncontrollably but who knows the different angles the pictures were taken and the time differences

[Anonymous No.6009190]

>>6009176
it's still rotating, usually that's a bad sign it gets worse and worse until it starts breaking up.
this happened to some high altitude jumpers.
They started spinning faster and faster until the rotational acceleration was too much for the body.
They blacked out and fell to their death.

>>6009168
it has weird aerodynamics, you think we choose the shape of the space shuttle because it looks super cool?

>>6009176
it looks like it's just a plate.
if it was a space ship it looks like the nose is straight down, which isn't usually a good thing.
this thing has to maintain an orbital speed, but with it's orientation it looks like it's going to drag on the atmosphere, rotate to death and burn up

"When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses not zebras"

[Anonymous No.6009200]

>>6009190
wouldn't it help if you open your legs and arms to increase your rotational inercia and overall drag of air friction?

[Anonymous No.6009204]

>>6009200
there wasn't enough air to do that. They were too high up
it's an example you learn in control theory of an unstable system

[Anonymous No.6009211]

>>6009204
its in polar orbit... there is no air

[Anonymous No.6009216]

>>6009190
thank you

[Anonymous No.6009242]

>>6009154
What makes you think it is an alien ship?

[Anonymous No.6009259]

Its reapers.

[Anonymous No.6009269]

>>6009190
>rotation
I don't see how the thin near vacuum of the thermosphere could increase the rotation rate of space debris. If anything, that piece of orbital debris still has near the same angular momentum from it's 'separation event.'

[Anonymous No.6009287]

>>6009211
I was talking about a high altitude jumper (at least there)

>its in polar orbit...
I'm pretty sure you or someone you listen to just pulled this fact out of their ass.
First, orbits do not just circle random longitudinal lines like the arctic circle or the tropic of cancer. If this isn't what you meant, then I'm sorry. This object would have to expend a lot of energy to stay about to stay above a latitudinal line. The exception to this is the equator. Orbits travel in a circle around the globe...I'm losing how to explain this so I'll just site examples, all meridian lines, equator, bond films they have that weird sine curve thing on the maps to tell you where the satellite is.
These are what orbits will look like (someone smarter than me check that).
> Polar orbit
> I don't think that means what you think it means
Polar orbit is when an object goes over both poles. This is equivalent to saying that the object follows a meridian (longitudinal) line around the Earth. On to the next section

If this was an alien a polar orbit would be quite boring. Sure you get a sample of all the biomes, but life I believe would be much more interesting. I would put myself in an orbit that puts me over the biggest population centers
> there is no air
what possessed you to think that?
there is definitely some air over the poles, you'll agree with that right?
I've seen pictures of people standing on the poles breathing fine.
Why would there be no air over the poles?
The only reason I can think of and could comment on is the air bulging at the equator because a centripetal force (I think it might actually be centrifugal in this case) is pushing the air out.
While this effect would be measurable, you could always go a little lower and find more air
> its in polar orbit... there is no air
don't make shit up.
be more discerning with your info

[Anonymous No.6009290]

>>6009259
Ah yes "reapers"

[Anonymous No.6009301]

>>6009269
I meant when it gets lower, I think.
Something like that, when it does start passing through the atmosphere will rotate faster and faster, if the aerodynamics are the way I think they are.
I didn't know it was still in the thermosphere. All I could tell was that it looked like it was in some sort of atmosphere. This kinda makes sense. If it was already in its death spin I don't think we'd have as good of pictures

Pretty tired right now, might have said some wrong things

[Anonymous No.6009585]

>>6009190

It's a satellite, it doesn't NEED to be aerodynamic, unlike the reosurce guzzling damn Shuttle which was the retarded baby of the Spaceplane idea.

[Anonymous No.6009613]

>>6009133
Its a garbage bag they dropped on the ISS, They took pictures of it as it fell

[Anonymous No.6009618]

Here /sci/, have a good dose of semi-related crazy.

http://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/11xqmb/aliens_already_exist_on_earth_bulgarian/

In fact all of r/UFO is a goldmine of crazy. It's painful.

[Anonymous No.6009711]

>>6009585
andddddddddd another person who doesn't read context

[Anonymous No.6009735]

>>6009211
It's clearly not in polar orbit as the Shuttle took those pictures, the Shuttle never launched to polar orbits. Secondly it's at an altitude the Shuttle can reach so there is definitely significant exosphere, air.

[Anonymous No.6009737]

>>6009154
Because there are thousands of space junk pieces orbiting the Earth.
We tend to prefer the simpler explanation.

[Anonymous No.6009757]

>>6009613
To bad it wasn't a grocery bag, it could have been the most beautiful thing ever filmed.

[Anonymous No.6009916]

>>6009133
All I know is he's called the stig

[Anonymous No.6009919]

>>6009168
> w2e
> e2w

Is that even possible?

[Anonymous No.6010474]

>>6009168

>what "if" voyager eventually got stuck in some planets orbit and ... later that planet developed intelligent life

They'd probably make it self-aware, capable of absorbing material and information and send it back to Earth. Due to space debris knocking off some of the letters on the satellite, they will think it's name is V'ger.