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what is the most powerful weapon we can build with today's technology? could it be a piece of metal fired from a nuclear blast like in operation plumbob? or maybe we could focus the radiation from a nuke in once direction?

>> No.5975191

That depends on what you want to destroy.

Generally, economics is probably one of the best long-term weapons.

>> No.5975196

>have nukes
>cover said nukes with shrapnell
>ultimate hand granade

>> No.5975198

>>5975191
Economics already is a schizophrenic, irrational world-view, where greed is assumed to be the basis of humanity and all humans are educated to be greedy from the start, which makes them greedy perpetuating the circle.
The result is the collapse of ecosystems and indifference of people.

>> No.5975199

>>5975196
That's what the nuclear bazooka is for, which shoots almost as far as the explosion reaches.

>> No.5975206

>Human destruction
Biological is most potent, a small dosage can infect a few people, they become hosts and spread to others unknowingly. Work shortened, no special technology required.

>Physical/Material Destruction
The ability to open and sustain a black hole at any given location to vaporize and eliminate everything within 10 seconds. The black hole disappears along with everything else.

>> No.5975214
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5975214

>>5975206
>what is the most powerful weapon we can build with today's technology?
>The ability to open and sustain a black hole

>> No.5975228

>>5975214
CERN could create miniature black holes years ago.

By now you can estimate their capability.

>> No.5975234

>>5975228
No, they couldn't, if they could they would have done it by accident and detected it by now,

>> No.5975237

>>5975234
No one will ever acknowledge it. Too much risk.

>> No.5975239

>>5975189
The Tsar Bomba H-Bomb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNRACDfCYZk

>> No.5975240

>>5975237
Sure, and the pyramids were build by aliens.

>> No.5975242

>>5975240
Alien black holes, to be precise.

>> No.5975248

>>5975240
>>5975242
I need your dealer's number.

>> No.5975251

>>5975248
What, can't find weed? Are you 9 years old ?

>> No.5975257

Isn't it obviously just a nuclear bomb? Why would you call something driven by a nuclear bomb "more powerful" than the bomb itself?

>> No.5975258

>>5975239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYUP7zJ0CwU

>> No.5975259

>>5975240
Everyone knows the pyramids were built by chemtrails.

>> No.5975263

>>5975251
Its time to put down the crack pipe and stop posting. You are humiliating yourself.

>> No.5975264

>>5975263
You need a new sarcasm detector.

>> No.5975319

A weapoin which functions like Hyperloop but launches stuff into space.

>> No.5975324

>>5975319
We call those things railguns.

>> No.5975347

Viruses and nukes.

>> No.5975353

What definition of powerful are you using?

>> No.5975373

>>5975189

Google. They were down for 2 mins today and stopped 40% of the world internet traffic. We once had a seminar at my uni from Google and the guy said that they had enough power to DDOS an entire continent. Ripping its economy apart.

http://techandfacts.com/google-blacks-out-for-two-minutes

>> No.5975375

Communication media.

>> No.5975394

wiki copypasta:

"In essence, the Teller–Ulam configuration relies on at least two instances of implosion occurring: first, the conventional (chemical) explosives in the primary would compress the fissile core, resulting in a fission explosion many times more powerful than that which chemical explosives could achieve alone (first stage). Second, the radiation from the fissioning of the primary would be used to compress and ignite the secondary fusion stage, resulting in a fusion explosion many times more powerful than the fission explosion alone. This chain of compression could then be continued with an arbitrary number of tertiary fusion stages. Finally, efficient bombs (but not so-called neutron bombs) end with the fissioning of the final natural uranium tamper, something which could not normally be achieved without the neutron flux provided by the fusion reactions in secondary or tertiary stages. Such designs can be scaled up to an arbitrary strength (with apparently as many fusion stages as desired), potentially to the level of a "doomsday device."

no limit. powerful enough?

>> No.5975428

If this works (probably not), it'd be a killer (as in destroying all forms of life including simplest lifeforms).

http://nextbigfuture.com/2013/08/most-unfavorable-anthropogenic-global.html

>> No.5975437 [DELETED] 

>>5975394

How many megatons or gigatons are we talking about for nuclear warhead size of something that can be fitted on a modern MIRV (individual warhead in MIRV)?

>> No.5975441

>>5975394

How many megatons (or gigatons perhaps even?) at maximum are we talking about for nuclear warhead size of something that can be fitted on a modern MIRV (individual warhead in MIRV)?

>> No.5975466

>>5975259
+1 internets.
Laughed heartily.


Polite sage.

>> No.5975468

Cobalt bomb probably, in terms of devastation. A few could end human civilization

>> No.5975469

Well I mean if money isnt an issue you can probably make some sort of warhead out of antimatter. Isolating it in a vacuum and unleashing hell upon contact.

>> No.5975476

>>5975264
Most of /sci/tizens literally don't get sarcasm. Or maybe they think that that's a way to look like Sheldon.

>>5975466
same.
Impolite bump.

>> No.5975480

>>5975441
You can't make nuclear weapons of that size significantly more potent than they already are: around 0.1-0.5 megatons, depending on the particular model.

The reason that this size is used is that it's the most cost-effective. Above this size, yield, weapon mass, weapon cost, delivery system cost, and volume of potential destructive effect all scale together roughly linearly, but ground area of potential destructive effect scales only at roughly the square root of yield. In other words, the bigger the bomb, the more of its energy just radiates into space.

So instead of building a few gargantuan rockets to each throw one monstrously huge bomb, it ends up being much more practical to build many reasonably sized rockets to each throw multiple smallish bombs.

>> No.5975527

de-orbiting an asteroid, coment, or meteor seems plausible in the future

I'd say an extinction event would be pretty powerful

>> No.5975532

>>5975189
The internet.

>> No.5975563

>>5975189
Ctrl+F : no "your mom's farts"

There are no kids tonight ?

I wanted to bash them

>> No.5975568

>>5975196
What would be the point? They vaporize everything in their blast radius anyway

>> No.5975590

>>5975568
This is not really true. Exposure to high temperatures can be tolerated by protection with a layer that is, by design or accident, ablative.

Large objects will only be entirely vaporized if their outer layers transmit too much heat before separating and carrying the heat energy away, or if they are somehow broken up into smaller pieces.

Hence "Project Orion", an early design for a spacecraft propelled by nuclear blasts.

Nuclear blasts cause wide-area destruction, but don't penetrate thick walls all that well. Projectiles driven by a nuclear blast can penetrate better than the blast itself can.

>> No.5975599

>>5975568
well that was the point
e.g if you have nukes, just throw them at your enemies instead of coming up with nuke grenades and cannons.

>> No.5975610

>>5975189
automatic nuke catapult w/ runes of strength

>> No.5976063

>>5975206
>black holes
>going away

>> No.5976090

>>5975189
HAARP project in Alaska could be used as a weapon. Basically it's like a Tesla Coil that can focus a bunch of radio waves into a certain spot and cause it to be destroyed. The perks of that is that it travels incredibly fast, at the speed radio waves travel which is pretty darn fast considering the information transferred by cellphone antennas. The destruction is pretty massive. It wasn't used in WWII because the level of electricity to run it was unbelievable. Now just hook it up to a nuclear power plant and you can destroy a lot. A missile is dangers and it has a shell which carries the bomb. Intersecting the attack of a Tesla Coil can be avoided but just change the base a couple degrees and you can hit another city.

>> No.5976092

>today's technology

the best and most advanced technology is being kept from society so I don't know OP.

>> No.5976095

>>5975189

It's just ordinary rocket motors.

Go to asteroid, direct it towards the earth. Wait for it to collide.

There, you have an explosion that would turn the entire earth into molten rock.

>> No.5976097

>>5976095

Takes, what, a year to get to the asteroid field? Maybe a bit longer to get the rock back?

It'll be expensive, but doable.

>> No.5976122

How big a blast would it take to knock the earth out of an orbit that could support life, would this be feasible for us to accomplish?
and is there anything we can use to harness the power of the sun to fry the surface of planets?

>> No.5976143

>>5976090
>HAARP project in Alaska could be used as a weapon.
no.
>Basically it's like a Tesla Coil
no.
>that can focus a bunch of radio waves into a certain spot and cause it to be destroyed.
no.
>The perks of that is that it travels incredibly fast, at the speed radio waves travel which is pretty darn fast
I think that's called "the speed of light".
>considering the information transferred by cellphone antennas.
?
> The destruction is pretty massive.
No.
>It wasn't used in WWII because the level of electricity to run it was unbelievable.
It wasn't built until almost fifty years after the end of WWII.
>Now just hook it up to a nuclear power plant and you can destroy a lot. A missile is dangers and it has a shell which carries the bomb. Intersecting the attack of a Tesla Coil can be avoided but just change the base a couple degrees and you can hit another city.
Pick up the entire array and move it?

>> No.5976161

>>5976122
Any single blast capable of changing the orbit of an Earth-sized planet enough to put it out of the life zone would also be strong enough to render the planet permanently uninhabitable.

Or render it into an asteroid belt, depending on the particulars.

Any kind of fast way to change the orbit of a planet will cause untold destruction.

If you want the surface to be generally unaffected by the change, it has to be slow, on the order of several decades or centuries.

Unless you allow for magic and simply nullify inertia.