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Is there a limit to technological progress? It seems silly now, when humans are at a point where our progress is escalating so rapidly. But will it slow down? Will we ever reach a point where our ability to go faster, stronger, easier etc. has been exhausted? Is there a limit?

>> No.5968916

Put more effort into defining the question.

>> No.5968915

Quite likely there is a limit

>> No.5968919

I think that technological advance is not just progress into a certain direction (forward) but also adaption to a certain situation, and therefore (situations ever changing and all), technological advance should never stop.

>> No.5968957

>>5968916
We humans are obsessed with making our transportation faster, energy more efficient, computing more powerful, war machines more dominant. We've made a huge amount of progress in these fields in the past century.

But is there a limit to our technological progress? We constantly want and strive for the above progress, but will the day ever come when we realize we can't go any faster, can't update any old technologies, that we've reached either the absolute limit of technological superiority, or at least the limit that our human intelligence allows?

>> No.5968969

>>5968916
I guess a more definitive example would be the worldwide competition to build the world's fastest supercomputer, an honor currently held by China I believe. Every year man builds faster and faster computing systems. But eventually the day will come when we say, "I don't know how to make it go even faster? This is the limit," right?

>> No.5968974 [DELETED] 

>>5968969
You can still make the software smarter, effectively making the computer smarter.

>> No.5968976

Individual technologies have limits. If technology and progress have limits I believe that the known universe will end before those limits are reached.

>> No.5968977

>>5968969
You can still make the software smarter, effectively making the computer faster.

>> No.5968981

>>5968957
>is there a limit to our technological progress?
Yes

They physical limits set by the universe would be a good place to start, the actual limit is probably a bit further down though.

>> No.5968982

>>5968977
Can the software be infinitely improved?

>> No.5968987

>>5968982
>infinitely
Refer to my other post >>5968919.
A computer is properly set up when its software reflects what it is supposed to do. When we have "perfect" software, we still need to configure the PC to perfectly match the problem.

>> No.5968998
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5968998

Yes.

>> No.5969033

>>5968909
When we've constructed a massive computer that is made of every atom in the universe, that's probably the limit.

>> No.5969036

>>5968909
>Is there a limit to technological progress? It seems silly now, when humans are at a point where our progress is escalating so rapidly. But will it slow down? Will we ever reach a point where our ability to go faster, stronger, easier etc. has been exhausted? Is there a limit?


yes see >>5969015

>> No.5969078

>>5968919
That is actually quite smart. I didn't think about it like that.

>> No.5969105

>>5968909
Actually there is a limit, " Necessity is the mother of all inventions " - Plato.
Humanity will once reach a point, where well we can't ask for anything more. Assuming Humanity survives for trillions of years, and our technology advances at an astonishing rate filling our every desire and need, there will be only 1 thing left for us to desire.
To reverse Maximum Entropy.
Yes that's right, I'm assuming Humanity will have survived trillions of years and has dominated every galaxy in the Universe and has finally reached a transcendence level ( joking bout that one ). Our last step would be to reverse maximum entropy and ensure our Universe doesn't simply die it's " Heat death ( search it up, pretty interesting ).
And thus if we reverse maximum entropy, Humanity will have reached the limits of technology. There is no point beyond this, we have control over our universe, what could be beyond this? The ability to reverse Entropy will be Humanity's final point in advancing in technology.

>> No.5969234

bump

>> No.5969260

>>5969234
Why would you bump this, the question has already been answered?

>> No.5969265

the limit is when we run out of resources. Barring that, there will always be new solutions to new problems

>> No.5969280

>>5969260
I think that some newfags are so attached to their threads (not because they consider them awesome or anything, but because they're theirs), that they are scared of seeing them die.

>> No.5969368

>>5968909
Yes, physics is the limit.

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5969670

Yes

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5969682

>>5969670
too high

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5969690

>>5969682

>> No.5969714

>>5969682
You'd have to move the 2013 back. We're not nearly that close to what's physically possible.

>> No.5969725

>>5969714
>We're not nearly that close to what's physically possible.

No, we're already very close to it. Computer hardware will only get 2-10 times more powerful before leveling off from where we are now.

>> No.5969810

>>5969690
Time machines?

>> No.5969818

>>5969670
>>5969682
>>5969690
how are "what will happen" and "what will happen if were lucky" two different lines prior to 2013 when they already happened

>> No.5969819

>>5969725
Go away violent simians guy, you're even worse than singularityfags in a future tech discussion.

I mean really how the fuck do you actually believe that

>> No.5969821

>>5969725
[citation needed]

>> No.5969825

>>5969725
Even if we were that close to maxing out on raw computer power that soon, we're still a looong way from maxing out on technological advancement.

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>>5969819
I thought the same thing when I was his age. I think a lot of people just want 'something' to happen.