Research General

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Research General Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:15:09 2013 No.5930616 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: We discuss research we're working on, Summer projects, tips for getting involved in research, yadda yadda yadda.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:52:38 2013 No.5930695 The best tip for getting into research as an undergrad is to just ask. You'd be surprised at how many faculty in your department will be eager to hire on help

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 16:05:38 2013 No.5930719

>>5930695

Also it helps attending a University that has no graduate program. It is though just showing an interest.

>>5930616

Anyways, I've come to the end of my work on my project as I'll be attending grad-school for ChemE

However, I'm originally a Chemist. I developed my own project in designing and synthesizing "biologically friendly" stabilized ZnO QD's. My research advisor has no background in nanoparticle synthesis as she's more of theoretical P-Chemist. So to say the least me my colleagues have beat our heads in to the wall over this, but I got to go to ACS and she's attempting to publish the current work as a communication so I'm happy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 16:11:08 2013 No.5930731 >>5930719 >ZnO QD's I'll take a guess - Zinc Oxide Quantum Dots?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 17:03:40 2013 No.5930854 >>5930731 Yep, using so called "biologically safe" capping agents (triethoxy and methoxy silanes)

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 17:11:08 2013 No.5930869

Most departments will have a faculty directory on their page full of pages for all their individual faculty members. Each of these will typically be filled with publications and information about that prof's research.

These sites are great for figuring out which professors to talk to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:15:39 2013 No.5931018 >>5930854 Sounds like a cool project

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:26:12 2013 No.5931043

Sophomore here

The trouble I had my last two semesters was that professors were typically looking for students with some upper division courses under their belt before they could assist in the laboratory.

Are there any other ways I can be appealing?

persistence?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:31:09 2013 No.5931053 >>5931043 Persistence is good, show a willingness to do some of the work on your own. Try looking up the kind of research they do and do some reading into the subject. Show them that you're willing and able to learn whatever you don't already know.

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:56:09 2013 No.5931094

>>5930869
which profs do I talk to? The ones that seem nice? Maybe the ones are actively recruiting graduate students?
Most of their research goes way over my head. I know basic modern and classical physics, but I'm pretty sure they don't teach this research level stuff at undergraduate level.
(Going into my third year)
I just want to get a sense of the academia research environment. (I worked R&D for some company in my last intern and didn't like it much)
Should I bring a resume?

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:03:38 2013 No.5931117

>>5931094
If you want to get an idea of what different faculty members are doing for research (and you can't decipher any of their publications) you could try going to colloquia/seminars when the semester starts.

Those kinds of presentations are meant to be shorter and more accessible than 10-20 page publications.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:07:38 2013 No.5931123 >>5931094 Look for professors who are doing work that interests you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:13:38 2013 No.5931144 Looking at solar energetic particle events and solar radio bursts from flares.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:26:39 2013 No.5931162 >>5931144 No way, which detector(s) are you using? You looking at GLEs too?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:27:08 2013 No.5931164 >>5931144 No way, which detector(s) are you using?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 19:40:38 2013 No.5931195 Working on a paper/article explaining how anhedonia is a casual factor for aggression in individuals suffering from depression. Doing some cognition & suicide readings as well but that's a little different... really looking for some ideas/inspiration.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 20:28:09 2013 No.5931292 >>5930616 I'm interested in doing a few experiments on microscopic organisms (Tardigrades.) Any tips for capturing and containing them safely?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 00:50:39 2013 No.5931814 >>5931018 It was fun

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Mon Jul 29 00:51:40 2013 No.5931816
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>>5930616
Been doing plasma research over the Summer, so far we've mostly been focusing on how neutral gas collisions affect EIC waves. Just finished the poster for it and I'm meeting with my prof tomorrow to go over it before we send it off to be printed (if anyone's interested I'll see about posting a copy of it here tomorrow).

After the conference this week we're moving onto our next project - testing whether or not we can produce a CO2 plasma via electron attachment (theoretically we shouldn't be able to but there's some experimental evidence suggesting otherwise so we're following up on it).

We'll probably just barely finish that by the end of the Summer so most of the Fall will probably be doing publications on those two projects but if we have time we're also planning to develop an experiment to test another plasma wave theory to determine whether shear effects can also drive the kinds of waves we're seeing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 01:22:39 2013 No.5931880 >>5931144 I didn't realize the Sun emitted radio waves >>5931816 Sure that'd be great. Anyone else have posters they'd like to share? (obviously blank out any identifying info)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 05:12:39 2013 No.5932166 >>5931162 Bit late went to bed. Am using data from WIND 3dp, WAVES, some ground based radio spectrometers and lofar, RHESSI and high level data from MDI and HMI. No GLEs looking at non-relativistic electrons which aren't high energy enough for that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 05:14:09 2013 No.5932169 >>5931880 At many frequencies in radio it's the brightest object in the sky. Radio emission can increase significantly when the Sun is active.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:28:09 2013 No.5932523 >>5932169 Cool, interesting to know. I've got a access to a few small radio antennas, any interesting radio experiments an amateur can run?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:00:09 2013 No.5932570 Sorry if this is OT but im in my second year of physics major and its just dawned on me, is there actually any jobs out there for physics majors? Or is it research/mcjob?

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:27:38 2013 No.5932706

>>5932570
Lots. It all comes down to what you're looking for.

There's the obvious stuff like teaching, research, industrial jobs (engineering/applications stuff) but there's also tons of niche jobs out there too. A guy from my graduating class is applying to the FBI this Fall, and another teaches college and contracts as a science advisor for movies on the side.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:21:38 2013 No.5932779 I recently completed my undergraduate degree in CS but I have no research experience at all. Is it impossible for me to get into research now I've graduated?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:41:38 2013 No.5932817 >>5930616 I'm trying to develop a microturbine that can be turned by bloodflow to generate electricity. I'm doing this with a lot of 3d printing and bacteria.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 13:56:08 2013 No.5932850 How many classes do you guys usually take while doing research? I really want to get into research even if it is only volunteering but I'm scared it might mess up my grades.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:01:08 2013 No.5932869 >bloodflow to generate electricity how much do expect without clogging the arteries? microwatt range? more than that?

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:01:09 2013 No.5932867

>>5932523
Sorry was gone to do project work at uni. I honestly don't know, I have never done anything like that I just get the data. Looking in great detail is quite hard, not impossible but it can get expensive.
There are cheaper things that can be done. There are instructions on the internet of how to look at solar activity with satellite dishes and a DVB usb. Apparently one of the usbs, a suitable antenna and GNUradio can be used to detect the galactic plane rather quickly. Another one is Radio Jove where you can look for long wavelength bursts from Jupiter and the Sun.
I have done some observing with a very crude radio telescope where we detected not just a solar burst but direct emission from the flare.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 14:24:08 2013 No.5932936 I had a magnesium fire last night, bit of a bugger to extinguish (turns out a 5kg ingot burns for a long time).

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:13:09 2013 No.5933760

>>5932850
I take 3-4 classes every semester on top of research and I haven't had a problem yet.

You'll usually only work like 10-15 hours a week during semesters, more during winter or summer terms or if you're coming up on a deadline for a talk or poster or whatever.

Professors were undergrads once too, they know what kind of course-load you're likely to be dealing with and they'll usually be very understanding about your time commitments.

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:34:08 2013 No.5933799

>>5933760

I don't know if you ever use rate my professor but the professors I'm taking this semester seem to lack sympathy.

I do well at reading the book and studying but I'm a bit intimidated by doing research and taking a full coarse load with "bad" professors

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:36:09 2013 No.5933800 File: 6 KB, 225x162, shrugsci.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5932779 Probably?

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:40:38 2013 No.5933806

>>5933799

Here's the thing, and depends on the person, but I find research to be more interesting, easier, and rewarding. However, there is the stress of deadlines. I particularly hate classes/studying so when I got involved in research I used it as an excuse not to study. However, it worked out well considering I had 9 months to build a project from ground up for ACS so I could spend 40-60Hrs a week in the lab.

I wouldn't stress out so much. Professors understand the learning curve involved and the work load and will be able to work with you and your schedule. The other benefit as long as your working on their project in which they have background in they will be able to provide you with good guidance and professional advice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:43:09 2013 No.5933814 >>5932779 Do they do research in CS? Here they just do what's called a "cap stone project" in which you just do a free paid job for a local company.

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 20:44:08 2013 No.5933816

>>5933799
>I don't know if you ever use rate my professor
No because it's inherently biased. The only people who bother to give a rating are the people who did really really good and really really liked their prof or the people who did crappy and didn't like them.

The prof I'm working for right now volunteers to teach the non-majors physics class every semester. He's great at it but he's also got a 1.2 rating on RMP because the only people who bother to rate him are the ones who came in expecting an easy A and didn't get one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:09:08 2013 No.5933843 >>5931816 still waiting on that poster, can you give us an eta?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:15:08 2013 No.5933850 What path should an undergraduate aspiring for a medicinal chemistry follow?

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:21:39 2013 No.5933859
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>>5933850
The path that rocks!!!

... barring that consider starting out majoring in chemistry and move towards medical applications later on. Departments will frequently offer cross-disciplinary degree options

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 21:28:08 2013 No.5933866 File: 21 KB, 320x256, waiting.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5933843 >tripfag will surely deliver! let's just wait!

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 22:09:09 2013 No.5933917

>>5933806
>>5933816
Students too often forget that their professors were students too once. They know what kind of workload students have to deal with and they'll have realistic expectations.

But on the other hand if you're volunteering to do research, they expect you to at least be making an effort, just like they would expect in class.

The people who are willing to put in the work do well in class and do well in research. The people who aren't, don't.

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:03:09 2013 No.5934018
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Doing some interesting research into organo-photovoltaics with one of the profs I had last Spring.

Haven't made the amazing breakthrough of the century or anything yet but you never know, right?

At any rate, I love what I'm doing and for the first time since I graduated high school I feel like I'm on the right track as far as what I want to do and where I want to go

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 23:19:09 2013 No.5934052

>>5930616
I would love to but my work has recently been made top secret as its potentially pretty ground breaking stuff in the field of organic synthesis. What I can say is that I am investigating something that came up in someone elses work while they were tying to make tetracenes and it is basically unstudied, I'm looking at 60 year old french research papers for scraps of help.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:23:39 2013 No.5934179 >>5934052 >I could tell you but I'd have to kill you I wish /sci/ would just admit it doesn't do any real research

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:17:08 2013 No.5934296 >>5934052 I don't know what most of that means but it sounds interesting. Sure you can't tell us more? (I'm assuming you've got a non-disc to worry about so I'm sure there are very specific do's and don'ts)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:29:09 2013 No.5934308 Trying to write this lit review for modeling synapses. I struggle with writing so this is pretty much nightmare mode for me.

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Tue Jul 30 01:47:10 2013 No.5934347
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>>5931816
Evening /sci/. Had too make quite a few changes after meeting with my prof today but it's done and headed to the printers tomorrow.

Conference isn't until Wednesday so I've got time to practice my talking points. The conference is covering all undergraduate research at the University, everything from physics to biomedical to sociology. Medical research is a big deal here so I'd estimate about 90% of the posters are biomed. Only four physics posters this year and I think I've got a shot at being the best from our department. *fingers crossed*

>>	Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Tue Jul 30 01:48:09 2013 No.5934351 File: 1.47 MB, 3000x2000, plasmaposter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5934347 Feel free to have a look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:03:40 2013 No.5934367 >>5934351 I wish my professor would print posters for conferences.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:23:09 2013 No.5934386

>>5934367
Chances are your department has a business office.

Chances are that office has a printer specifically for printing off large posters and the like for conference materials, visual aids for classes, etc.

Chances are there is a system in place for you and your prof to use this printer for a small fee.

I had to print one of these off last Spring and it cost $12 to print it off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:28:08 2013 No.5934391 >>5934386 We don't it's a small Uni and has no grad school Chem department. Plus she complains any minor changes to the project and the poster is a waste.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:33:39 2013 No.5934395 >>5934351 That's pretty good, would be nice if it were more colorblind friendly. I always like to stay in a habit that all my work is very ineligible and straightforward with or without the colors, but the colors just enhance it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:35:39 2013 No.5934399 >>5934395 I meant *intelligible, but it might as well say ineligible too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:45:09 2013 No.5934413 >>5934351 That's pretty cool, man. Going to Purdue soon for AE, hopefully I get some cool profs I can do some research with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:46:09 2013 No.5934414 >>5934351 Looks good, you get first name?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:48:09 2013 No.5934419 >>5932936 It's rare that I actually laugh out loud, but dear Sir: LOL!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:48:10 2013 No.5934420 >>5934419 Your post made me laugh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 10:19:39 2013 No.5934990 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 10:33:39 2013 No.5935005 >>5934351 So professional researchers have no better means of sharing their research than making up little posters and having a science fair? Gee I can't imagine why you guys aren't respected more. You need more glue and glitter?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 10:58:39 2013 No.5935028 >>5930616 Any geology bros out there? I'm doing a boring stream geomorphology study in the midwest.

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Tue Jul 30 10:59:38 2013 No.5935029
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>>5934367
Have you just not gone to a conference before or have you been presenting in other ways (talks, slideshows, etc)?

>>5934395
Well, fortunately all of my data is pretty straightforward even without the colors, all of the figures involving data for multiple harmonics is stratified. Plus I'll be there to explain things and answer questions.

>>5934413
Congrats, I'm sure you'll get to do plenty of cool research there!

>>5934414
Yep, first time getting first name on a publication, though if everything goes according to plan I may get a few more under my belt before this year. I've got a talk I'm giving in the Fall and we've got two more major experiments we're going to be running.

>>5935005
It's an extremely simple and convenient way for researchers to share their research... and no, I already have plenty of glitter

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 12:03:39 2013 No.5935106 File: 13 KB, 441x408, sulusmirk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5934351 >A series of tubes encircling the machine and the coils pump cooled water and glycol around the system to ensure that temperatures remain low. >A series of tubes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 12:06:09 2013 No.5935108 >>5935029 Congratulations on your first time getting first name! I hope that you'll get more publications in the future.

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Anonymous Tue Jul 30 12:18:40 2013 No.5935125

I'm performing brain surgery on chinchillas in order to gather data from the auditory nerve about how our brains parse out language from surrounding noises. Considering I'm a 2nd year pre-med student, the fact that I have done brain surgery is a huge bonus, plus my grad student and professor are total bros.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 13:20:38 2013 No.5935229 >>5935125 >I'm performing brain surgery on chinchillas You're a monster

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 14:41:38 2013 No.5935402 File: 36 KB, 805x669, natdisappoint.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5935229 Get over it - animal testing is a critical part of biomedical research.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:38:39 2013 No.5935978 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 20:55:08 2013 No.5936237 >>5935402 Animal testing is cruel and completely unnecessary - anyone who supports it should be ashamed of themselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 20:59:09 2013 No.5936240 >>5936237 And the alternative is?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:08:38 2013 No.5936250 >>5936240 If a product is so unsafe and unstable that you can't even tell how much harm it will cause without spraying it in some poor animal's eyes it shouldn't even be in development.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:28:40 2013 No.5936272 >>5936250 obvious troll is obvious

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:35:39 2013 No.5936285 >>5933859 10/10 would laugh again I read it in his squeaky voice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:37:39 2013 No.5936289 >>5936250 >>5936272 actually there is some truth to this. besides data obtained from animal testing can be quite inaccurate and computer simulations usually work better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:38:10 2013 No.5936290 >>5936240 Doing it to me I want to wake up a superhuman

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:39:40 2013 No.5936293 >>5935125 >I'm performing brain surgery on chinchillas in order to gather data from the auditory nerve about how our brains parse out language from surrounding noises What exactly are you gonna do? Skip the baby talk

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 00:02:39 2013 No.5936578

>>5936293
I don't know what you mean by baby talk, but we insert an electrode into the auditory nerve, play various phonetic samples and controls through a microphone/speaker combo placed in the ear canal, and the resulting data is being applied largely for technologies dealing with speech recognition/communication tech in general.
Also, while Chinchillas are super adorable, these subjects are typically donated to science from fur farms because their fur wasn't up to snuff, so either way they die, but in science we have strict regulations and anesthetize them as well as killing them in the most humane way possible when the surgery is complete.

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Anonymous Wed Jul 31 01:12:10 2013 No.5936698

>>5932817
So, would this power something augmented to the persons body, like an artificial limb or a pacemaker.
Something they wear like a watch? Or would the person become a walking generator?.

Also, it seems a bit impractical, as the amount of power generated would be ,just like the generator, microscopic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 01:31:39 2013 No.5936719 >>5936698 >the amount of power generated would be ,just like the generator, microscopic Which is enough for any basic chip There's people who are trying to use the glucose in the brain as a source of energy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 01:37:38 2013 No.5936731 >>5930695 How much of the professor's research area should I know before asking? I don't want to look under prepared.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 01:43:39 2013 No.5936741 >>5930616 I'm working on discovering 42 new sexual positions. With your mother.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 01:46:09 2013 No.5936744 >>5936731 Enough that you have a general idea of what they're researching, you don't need to know the nitty gritty details and there will inevitably be a lot that you have to learn 'on the job'

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 01:51:38 2013 No.5936753 >>5936698 I'm wondering this too, it's a cool theory but there would be so little power.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:26:40 2013 No.5937301 >>5936731 Enough that your first question isn't "so what are we doing?"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:46:10 2013 No.5937320 File: 499 KB, 941x1104, happyscientist.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just learned that my paper is in the green zone for this winter's IEDM conference. >mfw

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 17:23:54 2013 No.5938067 >>5937320 Sweet! Congrats!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 18:24:24 2013 No.5938184 File: 23 KB, 300x300, bouchard-aoc-mercurey-300x300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5938067 Thanks. Sadly my advisor is in vacation so I guess I'll celebrate with you guys.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:21:55 2013 No.5938710 >>5938184 Have you published it in any journals yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:26:54 2013 No.5938717 >>5938710 Nah the agreement when you propose something for a conference is that you will not publish the results in a journal until after the conference.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:40:25 2013 No.5938740 I've been doing some research this summer on melanins and melanin-inspired materials and their use in water purification and as a detector of lead in water. It's been a lot of just waiting for it to bind...

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 22:52:54 2013 No.5938759
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I'm synthesizing rare-earth (4f electron block) ion-core nanoparticles and characterizing them with UV-Vis absorbance, x-ray diffraction, and scanning electron microscopy.
These particular nanoparticles have a capability for photon upconversion- meaning that lower energy light such as ultraviolet light can be absorbed by these nanoparticles. After energy relaxation from the UV absorption, emissions occur at higher energy with visible light emission.
>shine invisible light into things, see visible light.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:36:26 2013 No.5938803

>>5933917
I wouldn't be doing research with the professor I am being taught by. I would be working for another department so I doubt he will have any Idea I would be doing research in the first place, especially because I'm sure there will be hundreds of students in my class.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 23:42:27 2013 No.5938819 This will be my first time volunteering for research, I'm kind of nervous, what should I expect/do?

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Wed Jul 31 23:52:55 2013 No.5938833
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>>5938717
Same here - now that the conference is behind us, priority number two (priority one being setting up for the next batch of experiments) is putting together everything we need for a proper publication.

>>5938819
You'll be doing a lot of grunt work for the first couple weeks/months. A lot of data recording, crunching numbers, putting plots and figures together for the upperclassmen/grad students/prof.

As time goes on and you learn more about the gritty details of the work you're doing, learn how to use the equipment on your own, learn how to analyze and interpret experimental results, yadda yadda yadda you'll be trusted with more information, more responsibilities, and more privileges.

Research as an undergrad is very much a 'learn as you go' experience.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:10:56 2013 No.5938868
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>The only reason I go to research presentations is for the free food.

Any other life science researchers here? I posted in the other thread, I'm working in an applied environmental microbiology lab studying anaerobic and aerobic dehalogenation of toxic compounds found in rivers like PCB's and dioxins. It's a biosafety level 2 lab which is pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:12:26 2013 No.5938869 >>5938759 > ultraviolet > lower energy than visible

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:12:57 2013 No.5938870 >>5938868 why is the feels guy chlorine

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:14:26 2013 No.5938872 File: 14 KB, 234x216, come here bro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5938870 >tfw no octet

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:16:27 2013 No.5938877 >>5938872 lmao I love it

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 00:27:57 2013 No.5938899 I'll be researching whatever my professor is researching on the CUNY supercomputer I get unlimited access

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 01:11:26 2013 No.5938990 >>5938899 Run a simulation of what would happen if a sun made of lava and a sun made of ice collided. Report the results when it's done

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:56:26 2013 No.5939459 >>5938899 every time I see CUNY I expect to see "CUNT"

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 09:07:29 2013 No.5939476
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Doing my MSc thesis on Space Based Solar Power. Currently on modelling the atmospheric laser transmission, got the troposphere and stratosphere simulating as expected. Other layers are pretty much negligible, but I will still look for relevant equations and incorporate them. Will finish of lit review in 2-3 weeks or so, when this programming is done.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 09:53:58 2013 No.5939552
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I did a self directed project (as an undergrad) in high performance computational fluid dynamics using the lattice Boltzmann method in CUDA. I did it in hopes that I could have /something/ to talk about when I go asking for a job in the fall.

I made some pretty videos with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwv-KefHzMc&list=PLXpzskMR1uFv51vp2FVP4KRTec9akvE8F&index=1

If anyone wants an explanation of how it works / how to do it yourself I can give you some materials. It is nowhere near as hard as it looks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 09:56:56 2013 No.5939560 >>5939552 That is supposed to be the beginning of a playlist. Just realized that the embedded youtube viewer won't autoplay the next one.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 17:13:26 2013 No.5940285

>>5939552
What kinds of methods exist for simulating fluid dynamics in Matlab and Mathematica?

I do undergraduate work with solar plasmas and having a way to simulate behavior would be nice.

What kind of inputs are required? What kind of processing power is necessary to run the simulations you're producing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 17:18:55 2013 No.5940294 >>5939476 Is there not-Space-Based Solar Power, too?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 00:12:27 2013 No.5941139 File: 2.64 MB, 1600x1067, pvs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5940294 >Is there not-Space-Based Solar Power, too? Of course not, don't be ridiculous!

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 08:52:43 2013 No.5941706 >>5939476 >atmospheric laser transmission I thought all space solar projects were going to use microwaves and rectennas because weather is transparent to them.

Anonymous Fri Aug 2 22:34:55 2013 No.5943233

>>5940285
Let me start with a nitpick: CFD is primarily a memory-bound operation. Shuffling memory from one place to another inside the computer takes the majority of the time, not the the processing power.

I get more than 1.1 Billion lattice updates per second with a single graphics card. The computer hardly matters for my purposes. Unfortunately what takes that graphics card 4 seconds takes (compiled) serial MATLAB code 48 minutes. (7.5 hours interpreted) Optimized C++ code takes about 19 minutes to do the same job.

I have no clue what is applicable for your purposes, or even the basics of the field. I just taught myself the lattice Boltzmann method in hopes it would make getting a job (at my university as an undergrad) easier.

That said lattice Boltzmann methods can be extended to plasmas. You will probably want to start with the masters thesis "lattice Boltzmann methods with applications in acoustics" or something like that, then move onto Sukop's book (there is a pdf of it somewhere). He also has code on his website.

Alternatively you could do what I did, and stumble across palabos.org's wiki and look at the MATLAB implementation of the LBM, take a while to grok it, then start adapting it to your purposes. I check 4chan infrequently, but if I see a post about the LBM or CFD I will chime in.

You may also want to look at Sailfish. /r/cfd has some material too.

Anonymous Fri Aug 2 23:14:56 2013 No.5943280

>>5930695

This indeed. This summer I am working with a guy who is trying to get his PhD. We are trying to determine the feasibility using solid magnesium as a propellant for a hall-effect thruster.

Last fall, I literally walked into the lab and asked for a tour, then asked if they could use any help.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 23:20:54 2013 No.5943285 >>5941706 microwave lasers

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 09:34:04 2013 No.5944014 >>5943285 That post makes 0% sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 09:46:04 2013 No.5944025 >>5944014 Exactly. Hell, microwaves are used to heat food specifically because of how they dissipate their energy to water. The atmosphere is basically opaque to them.

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 13:00:04 2013 No.5944223
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>>5940294
>>5941706

Hello. So what I'm currently simulating is laser transmission through space, need to incorporate Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle for laser divergence over a distance in space "a vacuum", energy is conserved but it diffracts due to photons from emitter not having parallel line paths. Got tropospheric and stratospheric attenuation done, need to look into mesospheric and ionospheric transmission though for now it looks to be negligible.

So to answer your questions. Microwaves are not attenuated as highly compared to laser however they diffract and scatter highly through the atmosphere, a 2km SPS microwave transmitter capable of GW power transmission requires a 100km+ diameter set of ground based rectenna's, from my calculations. Whereas laser does not scatter/diffract as much, however it is highly attenuated in the TROPOSPHERE and STRATOSPHERE only. But these 2 layers only add up to 50km from ground, whereas the atmosphere for Earth ranges from a border of 80km to Ionosphere ranging to ~1000km. Hence if I transmit laser through the majority of the atmosphere, it keeps a fairly coherent and efficient beam, capture it in the stratosphere via a "suggested" airship with specific band solar PV to increase efficiency of laser capture, then power a microwave transmitter to transmit the power 50km which won't diffract much, or theoretically use a 20km high voltage direct current cable tether, made possinly aluminium or carbon nanotubes in the future. Very high efficiency wireless energy transmission, the main losses come from conversion from conversion components themselves, not the energy transmission.

Anyway too much info I have given away ;) But it's unlikely you can steal my idea and do anything with it haha.

The_MPC Sat Aug 3 13:31:04 2013 No.5944256

I'm just finishing up a research internship under a guy who studies supergravity. Here's the basic idea:

There are a whole lot of supersymmetric theories of nature. A lot of them have been ruled out, but the landscape is still enormous. One standing problem is to develop a classification scheme for the many supersymmetric theories. One solution to that involves representing those theories in the obvous way as systems of equations subject to a certain algebra, and then representing those systems using colored graphs (it turns out the algebra allows for this pretty neatly).

My work has been in conjecturing and proving things about those graphs. In particular, I spend time moving between the many representations of the systems. Mostly that means groups, permutations, and linear algebra, but I've recently found a very useful ring structure in the graphs.

Even more exciting: after spending this summer doing symmetric representation under this professor, and doing an independent study in GR under another professor, I'll be able to continue working for this guy as a proper university employee studying supergravity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 10:16:36 2013 No.5946046 >>5944256 >>5944223 Bumping this thread back to the front page, because it might be the only one on the board about actual science.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 11:37:36 2013 No.5946159 File: 18 KB, 400x260, transmissionwindow2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >microwaves .. atmosphere is basically opaque to them. calculate the wavelength your 'microwave' uses, then try again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 19:18:42 2013 No.5947065 Bump (if it hasn't reached its cap), I want to read this, but need to study.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 21:25:43 2013 No.5947319 >>5947065 Only worthy thread in /sci/

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 03:45:19 2013 No.5947864 >>5946159 Why are there such large gaps ?

Anonymous Mon Aug 5 06:38:19 2013 No.5947991
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>>5947864
Not the same poster, but it's profound right (well not entirely it's due to the gaseous composition but still, it's a range).

It's as if Mother Earth allows us use to utilize certain ranges of radio waves for atmospheric data transmission. Here's another by NASA themselves. Logically think about it, it's non-intuitive for extremely large wavelength radio waves to be attenuated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 07:21:50 2013 No.5948008 >non-intuitive for extremely large wavelength the ionosphere acts like a mirror

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 12:23:50 2013 No.5948341 >>5947864 The gaps are due to different constituents of our atmosphere

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 06:07:16 2013 No.5950165

Ok, should I get involved in research? I'd only have about 5 weeks to work in, and I'd have to quit my part time job. I'd be willing to work weekends though.

My questions about research are: How does an undergraduate actually contribute original stuff on a topic? I feel completely directionless in terms of how to contribute original stuff. Would I just be doing grunt work? Would this look good on a CV?

>an opportunity to work with me this summer on some research which could, depending on how you find it, become the basis of your thesis project. The research would have been on learning some numerical/programming/simulation skills and using them to study current research problems in either granulate/solids processes or simple molecular systems. I know from your continuous assessment in *coursename* that you enjoyed using Matlab and this would be an opportunity to study more numerical and theoretical techniques.

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 12:01:30 2013 No.5950537

>>5950165
Research in your department is going to be pretty flexible and willing to work around your schedule so you probably wouldn't have to quit your job.

Why such a short time though? Five weeks isn't really enough time to get much of anything done.

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 12:27:18 2013 No.5950560

>>5950165
You don't have to be incredibly original or do groundbreaking research or anythng. So long as you do something that isn't utterly trivial or has been done again and again, it's good. One of the tricks is to ignore everything that you read in textbooks and start reading papers (and preprints). I did a string theory project in June even though I knew nothing about string theory at first.

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Tue Aug 6 18:00:18 2013 No.5951157
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Well with the conference behind us we've moved onto our next batch of experiments.

We're trying to produce a negative-ion CO2 plasma using a process called electron attachment, which is exactly what it sounds like - we introduce a neutral gas into the plasma and the free electrons attach onto the gas to produce a negative ion.

Now, theoretically we shouldn't be able to do this with CO2 for any non-negligible length of time. Negative CO2 ions are not, according to theory, a stable configuration and we should not see these ions last long enough to produce a lasting negative ion plasma in the chamber. However, my professor and one of his former graduate students have a couple of folders worth of experimental observations that suggest otherwise.

This is one of about a dozen experiments or unusual observations that my professor's been revisiting over the last year. One of his colleagues suggested that it might be possible to form a stable negative ion if heating or magnetic effects in the chamber (I forget which at the moment) produce a minor distortion in the molecular configuration of the CO2 atom.

What we're doing now is swapping out our Ar tanks from our previous batch of experiments with some CO2 tanks and introducing the gas into the chamber. We look to observe how the electron saturation current (Ies) drops off as we introduce the gas and look at the EIC spectra to see if we're exciting the EIC waves for CO2.

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 18:36:50 2013 No.5951234

Hi /sci/, I think this thread is appropriate for my question, so here it goes.
I'm a french student in cpge (a French two years undergraduate programme, see http://www.prepas.org/whatisacpge if you want to learn more about it), and I've a TIPE to prepare for next june. A TIPE is a year long personnal project : you have to pic a subject, do research about it, try to do something on your own (like an experiment, a program or something) and talk about it to two examinators.
It has to be about physics, maths or computer science (the classes I take) but I'd like it to be about pure maths.
This years theme is "Transfert and exchanges"

So I'm looking for an interresting and original topic. Last year, the theme was "Invariance and similitude", I chose Rythmic Canons (see http://repmus.ircam.fr/_media/mamux/papers/amiottiljmm.pdf for details) and my originality was rewarded with a 19.25/20 (my performance itself wasn't worth that grade).

Anyway, I was wondering if someone here had an idea about an interresting and original maths topic that would fit the theme "Transfert and exchange".

Also, as it would take too long to detail here my academic level in maths, I'll just let you know that I left high school two years ago, that the class I attend is a pretty hard one. If you don't know wether I have the level to understand the topic you have in mind, post it anyway and I'll see for myself.

Thank you

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 18:53:48 2013 No.5951267 >>5951157 Do you happen to be doing research at NC State? I know a professor that was/is doing a lot of work with plasma like you are describing.

>>	Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Wed Aug 7 02:05:17 2013 No.5951917 File: 33 KB, 323x396, Carl Sagan 020.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5951267 No, sorry. But I'd be interested in reading some of their research. Have a link to their profile?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 02:34:48 2013 No.5952008 >>5951917 That is his profile, and it has a link to a couple of things he has published. http://www.ne.ncsu.edu/faculty/mohamed-bourham I can't seem to find anything on current research, but enough digging around on the site may yield an answer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 03:59:17 2013 No.5952170 jet quenching in quark-gluon plasma created in relativistic heavy ion collisions

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 04:09:18 2013 No.5952185 >>5933800 >shrugsci lol'd got me a degree in shrugsci hyuk

Anonymous Wed Aug 7 05:13:17 2013 No.5952235

MD PhD here. I have two projects i'm trying to tackle right now. I'm doing bench work on tacrolimus and cell growth with the HeLa model. Also trying to bang out a meta analysis on barometry effects on cardiopulmonary disease exacerbations.
Was reading other post in this thread and too lazy to qoute but for the anon that made fun of poster presentations- you have no clue on how to milk a project before publication. Also posters are great for networking in conferences.
Also to the CUNY anon I'm a graduate of CCNY class of '99 glad to see the CUNYs still representing

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 05:19:48 2013 No.5952240 >>5932817 This had been tried before you'll find an interesting assortment if you pubmed it. Rate limiting step is hemolysis. I have a friend who got a big grant with a biotech firm and has been working on this for years over in Stanford

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 05:28:18 2013 No.5952251 File: 58 KB, 467x528, .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > Be 17 > Town`s high school gave nothing > 3 weeks until university > Haven`t even finished elementary chemistry textbook and currently at magnetism theme in physics textbook > The feel

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 05:30:48 2013 No.5952254 I need a topic for a BS ChemE thesis. Anyone got ideas? I've looked on the internet but most of what I found were for MS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 05:30:48 2013 No.5952255 >>5952251 Oh yeah, the most important: > Scrolling 4chan instead of studying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 05:36:17 2013 No.5952263 >>5952251 >didn't take physics until college >didn't take chem until college >didn't take trig until college so you're a few years ahead of where I was

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 06:01:48 2013 No.5952281 File: 13 KB, 220x220, explosives.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5952254 >a topic for a BS ChemE thesis What substance has a higher detonation velocity than octanitrocubane?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 06:05:47 2013 No.5952283 >>5952281 I-I'm not sure what you're getting at and I doubt that it's doable, but that seems pretty interesting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 06:26:18 2013 No.5952300 >>5952283 Without confidence you'll do no good in science. Go and try to work above your limits, only this way you can achieve your true potential. If you die, you die. That's Bruce Lee.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 06:27:48 2013 No.5952303 >>5952263 Any success.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 06:28:47 2013 No.5952305 >>5952303 >?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 06:29:48 2013 No.5952307 >>5952300 I'm barely hanging on as it is though

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 07:06:19 2013 No.5952323 >>5952251 that fucking feel man >be 18 >high school has no CS classes at all >7 weeks until university >courses will be in C >barely started doing python i just don't even know where to start

Anonymous Wed Aug 7 07:09:17 2013 No.5952326

>>5952323
Doesn't matter at all, they will probably assume no basis at all when it comes to programming. All programming I had done before I started EE was some TI programming and a really small bit of python. And we started with a C class that really started up from the very basics, it was no problem at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 07:12:19 2013 No.5952327 >>5952303 have 2 classes left this semester and I'm done with my bachelors so I suppose

Anonymous Wed Aug 7 07:12:19 2013 No.5952328

>>5952326
I'm not too worried about falling behind, i talked to the head of the cs department and he said the first course is extremely basic, but I would like to start getting some sort grasp of it beforehand just to make it easier so I can focus on other classes/projects

or i could do more calculus

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 07:14:17 2013 No.5952330 >>5952328 everyone who can't get through a comp sci bachelors fails csc101 (or whatever the first class is called where you are) so don't be surprised when you see a fuckton of drop outs

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 07:19:47 2013 No.5952334 >>5952330 really? shit. i would think most people could handle the intro class

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 07:21:48 2013 No.5952340 >>5952334 it's because they lack a fundamental comprehension of logic they are completely unable to understand the most basic concepts you can tell right away who these people are

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 07:31:17 2013 No.5952358 >>5952340 ah. i forget that you can major in comp sci outside of the engineering department, so this makes mores sense

Anonymous Wed Aug 7 07:38:18 2013 No.5952367

>>5952358
in my experience, after the first class there are then two categories of comp sci majors;
the ones who either
>don't care,
>don't like the subject,
or
>don't even want to be in school
they typically only put in enough effort to pass classes

the second group is composed of people who
>are already really good at programming,
>enjoy the subject,
or
>are naturally talented/gifted/good at comp sci
and they ace basically every class

so, there's a group of C students and a group of A students
in other words, if you can identify in which group you would be categorized, you already know what grades you can expect to get

>>	Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Wed Aug 7 20:29:00 2013 No.5953882 File: 11 KB, 480x360, sagantree2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5952008 Thanks for the link, I'll be sure to check out some of his research.

Anonymous Wed Aug 7 22:18:55 2013 No.5954045

Hi guys, how do I into research as a highchool senior? Low funded highschool, I want to be a researching neurologist, maybe a biotechnologist.

I made a pretend research proposal to see if Tyr229 in the NDM-1 Variant of Metallo-Beta-Lactamase was truly a stabilizing AA because of its location on the "floor" of the enzyme, just in an attempt to learn more about this enzyme. Considering practically all of its variants are capable of hydrolyzing any beta-lactam antibiotic excluding in some cases monobactams, I thought any information would be useful. This paper was done at the end of junior year, and I taught myself the basics of this stuff. I would really enjoy looking into it. My methods section involved doing an in vitro protein expression through some life technologies product bullshit, in reality it needs to be done in vivo simply because I wouldn't know how the enzyme would react in the real environment.

Anyway, I still want to be a doctor, but I would like to look into research such as this. How do? Google is not of help because john is kill.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 23:36:55 2013 No.5954151 >>5954045 Do you have a university in your town? Or even a decent sized college? If so look up any researchers who are doing stuff that looks interesting and contact them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 00:11:55 2013 No.5954207 >>5954151 I have a community college, but thats really it. Northern NJ. Farleigh Dickinson Uni. too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 00:30:26 2013 No.5954235 What is involved in mathematics research? I want to start asking professors if I can join and help, but what exactly do we do? Is it me + whoever in a room bouncing ideas off each other with relevant models, papers, and theories in front of us?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 01:45:26 2013 No.5954354 >>5954207 Might as well check it out, you never know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 01:47:56 2013 No.5954357 >>5954235 Lots and lots and LOTS of tedious derivations

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 02:16:19 2013 No.5954396 >>5954357 (different anon here) That doesn't sound bad; I sort of thought they would be sitting around doing nothing for weeks until someone had an idea

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 02:53:47 2013 No.5954440

>>5952367
I would probably fit into the enjoy the subject or good at comp sci, if I had to choose. It's difficult to say really but I'm definitely not the first option, and I'm pretty good at calculus (although that's not a tell-all for this sort of thing)

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 03:24:18 2013 No.5954483 I'm researching what happens when I put red-bull in my humming bird feeder. Yesterday one of the little fuckers flew though my window. Not into it THOUGH IT.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 11:42:44 2013 No.5955068 >>5954396 To each their own I suppose

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 20:12:05 2013 No.5956289 bump

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Thu Aug 8 22:24:36 2013 No.5956536
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>>5951157
Hit a bit of a snag with our latest round of experiments.

This drop in the electron saturation current suggests that we're forming negative ions in the plasma... unfortunately we can't confirm whether the source of the drop is the production of negative CO2 ions or not. Unfortunately we overlooked the fact that Cesium has almost exactly three times the mass of CO2. As a result the EIC harmonics excited by the CO2 and the higher harmonics of the Cesium are next to impossible to distinguish.

We've got a couple of ideas we're going to try tomorrow to see if we can damp the Cesium contribution to the waves but not the CO2 component, so we'll see.

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Thu Aug 8 22:26:07 2013 No.5956539
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>>5956536
Incidentally, any chemists on /sci/ familiar with any gaseous compounds with a similar molecular structure to CO2 (linear, centrosymmetric, covalent bonds) we might be able to use as a substitute?

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:42:36 2013 No.5956581

Hey /sci/ what is a good research topic for someone who wants to be a researching neurologist, needs to do this research and is going into senior year of highschool? I'm also very interested in Molecular Biology and anti-biotic studies, something that is unique, that I could do with a community college laboratory at my disposal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:43:05 2013 No.5956587 Finishing up my lit review as my senior project. It's due tomorrow and I don't even have a rough draft finalized yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:57:06 2013 No.5956621 >>5956581 Neurological effects of browsing 4chan

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 22:59:06 2013 No.5956627

>>5956621
I only go on /sci/ and /diy/. I was supposed to enter the SIEMENS competition but at this point, I will not overreach my goals and settle for normal research. I still could enter but its not realistic.

If it helps I know a decent amount about beta-lactam antibiotics.

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:14:35 2013 No.5956663

>>5956539
How important is temperature to your experiment? I keep thinking of compounds, but none of them really seem to fit: N2O isn't centrosymmetric, BeH2 has a high melting point, and I don't know it's boiling point, but I did see indication of decomp with the melting of it, and XeF2 is sensitive to water vapor and just generally unstable, as well as not gaseous in room temperature. BeCl2 is much more stable, but once again, the boiling point is over 475C. So I guess the question to ask is what I originally asked: how important is temperature to your experiment?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:24:06 2013 No.5956692 Researching the derivatives of polynomial functions and potential applications in industry.

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Thu Aug 8 23:29:36 2013 No.5956701
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>>5956663
The temperatures involved are pretty much fixed where they are. The hot plate in our chamber is at around 0.2 eV (~2000-2500 K), our distribution system for the gas is room temperature, as are the pressurized source tanks.

I was looking at BeF2, it's linear, centrosymmetric, covalent... but it's also highly toxic and a solid at room temperature and standard pressure so that's out. KrF2 and XeF2 likewise are very similar but too difficult to produce and handle with our system.

Basically, any substitute for the CO2 would pretty much have to be a gas at room temp and under a wide range of pressures. Materials which are solids at standard pressure but vaporize under a low vacuum aren't an option because we can't control the pressure or distribution of the compound.

Really hoping one of our ideas for damping the Cs waves works out.

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:41:05 2013 No.5956727

Currently looking at a molecular system my group thinks is the "on/off switch" for memory formation. I'm also looking into the role of a particular system in the basal ganglia for drug addiction, and investigating a hypothesis for the cause of methamphetamine-induced neurotoxicity. I'm intentionally being vague here so don't ask me to clarify.

Anonymous Thu Aug 8 23:57:35 2013 No.5956745
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I would like to get into research next semester but unfortunately I didn't really know what I was doing when applying to colleges and ended up at a liberal arts college which basically has no research happening in my major (Math) and doesn't even teach anything in the field I'm hoping to go to graduate school in (Biostatistics). Any advice? Too late to transfer as I'm going to be a Junior soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:03:08 2013 No.5956757 >>5956745 talk to profs about a potential independent study, pretty much the same as research in maths

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:24:08 2013 No.5956776 >>5956757 Yeah this is kind of what I had to do.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:29:06 2013 No.5956784

>>5956745
My sister is going to grad school for Biostats, just make sure you go to grad school for what you want. Also yes, make sure you get into research projects that do what you want to do so you have "experience" on your resume when you apply, and when you eventually do, focus on what the professors are researching so that you can network rather than just simply looking at the school as a whole.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:33:36 2013 No.5956789

I'm a hiki/NEET, but would it be possible for me to contribute to some kind of research? I don't mind learning independently, I just have severe social anxiety... I don't suppose anybody would want to deal with the extra effort of communicating over email/im though...

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 00:41:06 2013 No.5956803

>>5956784
Oh really? That's really awesome. I think I'm actually the only person in my entire school who wants to get into Biostats so I don't know really have much people to talk about it with.

Is she going for a PhD or a Masters? I'm leaning towards PhD just because I can't afford to pay a lot for a Masters degree, ugh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 01:39:08 2013 No.5956878 >>5956789 Can you really not talk to others at all?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 01:44:05 2013 No.5956886 >>5956701 cant you just used something else for the plasma besides cesium?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 01:48:07 2013 No.5956891 >college with no graduate school >anyone who teaches must have a terminal degree in their field >900 students total >they have a huge amount of time to socialize and converse with students about research I love it here.

>>	Fluttershy the Tree !0YjMx5UY1A Fri Aug 9 01:58:07 2013 No.5956907 >>5956803 She's going PhD. And she HATES error bars, I get so much shit from her for using them in my presentations...

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:08:07 2013 No.5956924

>>5956907
Man, the idea of having a family into science is just so foreign and cool to me. Good luck to her; I hear a PhD program is incredibly grueling but financially worthwhile since they waive the tuition and give a stipend right? I really hope I could make it like your sis did.

Did she do any relevant research before applying? The field seems pretty small and fairly new so I don't think there are a lot of opportunities for undergrads out there to be conducting research.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:18:37 2013 No.5956940

>>5956924
Yeah, her offers essentially just came down to how much the colleges were paying her to be there. And you will make it as long as you have a worthwhile GRE score and GPA. Also, she did do some research, but not exactly biostats because she took a long time to get to that, and I still don't think that she is completely set on biostats. But she's happy with where she is. I'm going to be going for a PhD as well in Biochem, so I'm glad I have her to give me some direct advice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:28:06 2013 No.5956956 >>5956940 Not completely set? Don't PhD programs take anywhere between 4 to 8 years to complete usually? Or can you just drop out with a Masters if you decide against completing it?

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:37:07 2013 No.5956963

>>5956956
Yeah, they take that long to complete, but she's gotta take the courses they want her to take as well. Maybe she is doing some research with one of the professors at the same time, but I haven't heard her talk about the project she'd be working on.

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 02:47:08 2013 No.5956975

>>5956956
Nope you can't do that. The amount of funding that these people put into you for a PhD program is actually ridiculous.

Dropping out with an M.S. is basically betraying your adviser and stealing money from the school. Good luck getting any letters of recommendations after scamming the school like that. Oh and you're just going to be looked as a dropout who can't handle a PhD when applying to jobs.

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Fri Aug 9 03:49:37 2013 No.5957079
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>>5956886
We can but unfortunately it's not as simple as just swapping out a different kind of gas or a new probe.

While the machine can be set up to use either Cs or K as a plasma source (in fact the original experiments that we're following up on used a K+ plasma) it would take about 3+ weeks of work and maintenance to prep the machine to produce a K plasma instead, including a full cleaning of the chamber.

We'd like to explore other options before dismantling large parts of the apparatus.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 11:53:07 2013 No.5957650 >>5956878 Pretty much, yeah. I've always found it extremely difficult to talk to people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 12:12:08 2013 No.5957666 I just finished my masters, wanna apply for a PhD but I really need to get some job experience in anything and not spend another 3 years faffing about without a guaranteed job at the end.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 12:41:07 2013 No.5957699 >>5957079 Why not just use water? That's close to being a linear molecule?

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 15:50:33 2013 No.5958111

>>5957699
They have different implications in their quantum chemistry. CO2 has no lone pairs on the central carbon, while water has 2 lone pairs on the central oxygen. Also I assume there are large differences in the polarity of those molecules, as CO2 is centrosymmetric, and water is not. I think that small bend has enough difference to cause complications in the experiment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 17:12:03 2013 No.5958332 >>5954357 What? What kind of math are you doing? I've been doing research in math for years, and most of the work is in coming up with clever proof methods. Only pleb applied mathematicians do "tedious" things.

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Fri Aug 9 19:10:33 2013 No.5958499
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>>5957699
We've been considering it - it'd be cheap and simple to distribute water vapor into the chamber... the problem is that they're structurally very different. Water isn't quite linear, the polarity is different, it's a paramagnetic compound which means the magnetic field of the chamber could have an effect on the molecules apart from the ones that we're looking at with CO2.

Chemistry and atomic physics aren't my forte so I'm not sure about the details of what else might be involved.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 23:21:05 2013 No.5958835 >>5956975 Is this really true? Can they actually just lock you at their school for several years or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 9 23:38:35 2013 No.5958872 Do I have to do research with a faculty member when I go to college or are there options for independent research?

Anonymous Fri Aug 9 23:43:04 2013 No.5958882

>>5958872
you can call anything you do in your free time independent research
but unless you actually produce something to show for it, it wont mean much on a resume or application to an academic institution

whereas, research you do under a professor always means something even if (and by "if", I mean "when") you end up with nothing to show for it

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 00:57:36 2013 No.5959009

>>5958872
Of course you can, but why would you want to? There's an absurd number of benefits to working with faculty.

You get someone with experience in the field serving as a mentor, you get access to contacts, events, and equipment you wouldn't otherwise have access to, you get fucking paid... what are the cons here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 00:59:34 2013 No.5959014 >>5930616 How do I get started with research? Fall semester is starting in a month, is it too late? Should I find what topics interest me and contact professors that have related research topics? I'm a biochemistry major

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 01:07:33 2013 No.5959032 >>5959014 I just did really well in one of my classes and the professor asked me to help with research. I guess you could go them, instead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 01:13:00 2013 No.5959046 >>5959032 that's pretty cool. I didn't do so well last semester but I'm hoping to improve in the Fall. I guess I should still ask around anyways

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 01:33:00 2013 No.5959075 >>5959014 Just ask. It's probably not too late, what year are you? Look through profs' websites and see if anything piques your interest, then contact them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 07:17:55 2013 No.5959306 >>5959075 I'm going to be starting my 3rd year

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 11:15:56 2013 No.5959638 >>5959306 Certainly not too late then. If you were starting like your last semester and were JUST starting to get into research I'd be a little more worried. Just check out some profs and see if you can find one whose research sounds interesting

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 11:18:55 2013 No.5959648 [DELETED]

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Lets run a hypothetical on you guys. A study of sorts. Say you could instantly learn/obtain your masters degree in any five fields you wanted. Assume its from the university of your choice. Which would it be and why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 14:28:03 2013 No.5960044 >>5959638 Thanks, I'll ask some professors then

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 14:37:32 2013 No.5960062

I am looking into studying the effect of unpaid internships and the participation rate in the skilled labor market. trying to find a similar country to the United States which does the unpaid internship bit.
I have a basic idea of how to study, and where to get the information, but I'm still asking a faculty member at my college to help me out and maybe get funding for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 15:07:35 2013 No.5960113 Working on a form of wireless energy using gamma ray lasers as the transportation method.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 10 16:46:03 2013 No.5960313 >>5960044 Good luck!

Anonymous Sat Aug 10 17:04:03 2013 No.5960349

Currently done with my first year and I wanted to help with some research already in my 3rd semester.
The reason is that achieving perfect grades would require too much studying without really making that much of a difference but I already get decent grades when I barely do anything and I want to put some of all this free time into use to already build on my future.

One of my professors is among the best engineers on the world (I really mean it, he constantly travels and about half a year ago received an award for being among the top 5 most cited engineers of the world, still rising) and I'd love to have him among my connections but to be honest I am scared...

He is such a successful person and works constantly with tons of people. I am already nervous when I greet him probably because I respect him so much...

I apologize for my spineless blogshitting.

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Sun Aug 11 01:20:52 2013 No.5961166
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>>5960349
Just ask him. The worst that can happen is he says 'no' in which case he's still available to you as a professor and mentor, just not a boss (and you can always ask again later).

Chances are unless he has no funding (which is unlikely given his supposed notoriety) or already has half the department working for him, he's not gonna turn down the extra help.

Best of luck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 01:26:53 2013 No.5961172 File: 27 KB, 480x534, proud.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw this thread's still up after almost a week

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 13:57:48 2013 No.5961972 >>5956539 What about HCN? That's a linear molecule. Not sure about the bonds.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 15:36:05 2013 No.5962106 >>5961972 >Hey! Why don't you just use deadly deadly cyanide for your experiments?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 15:57:06 2013 No.5962128 >>5956539 CS2 ? (depend of the temperatute at which you work)

Anonymous Sun Aug 11 16:03:06 2013 No.5962134

Just met with my Prof. for my undergrad final projet in physics about quantum fractals.
specificly about sub and sup radiance of two identical atoms while interacting with a quantum fractal void (fibonacci fractal).
I'm extremely excited and hope it will turn well, there's even a possibility to publish a article.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 16:17:36 2013 No.5962149 >>5930616 Currently studying two different strains of H1N1 from 2009, a lethal and a non lethal version. If anyone is interested I can develop (I will not say anything that hasnt been published ofc)

Anonymous Sun Aug 11 16:18:06 2013 No.5962151

I'm currently on a pre-university work placement at a research facility. I'm helping out with a project where we're looking at the effects of acid seeping through rocks with an X-Ray tomography device which I'm learning how to use. It's pretty cool to actually see what goes on in places like this but there is a painful amount of bureaucratic health and safety malarkey that goes with it.

I'm also working my way through a QM textbook in my free time, I didn't get any done today though so that's not too good. I've sort of gotten used to mechanics with potentials and now I'm just covering all the required maths.

Anonymous Sun Aug 11 16:39:37 2013 No.5962175

>>5962149
Ive also finished my end of uni project recently, it was titled: Generation and testing of a retroviral expression vector expressing an shRNA against Id2, a transcription factor essential for Natural Killer cell development.

Again I will expand if people are interested (will not say anything that hasnt been published)

>>	The_MPC Sun Aug 11 19:30:02 2013 No.5962435 >>5962151 ...Griffiths QM?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 19:38:02 2013 No.5962460 >>5962435 Nope, "A Cavendish Quantum Mechanics Primer". I was given it on a summer physics course about a year ago. I'm now at the stage where I feel like I can confidently work through it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 22:42:04 2013 No.5962757 >>5961972 >centrosymmetric >>5962106 Toxicity doesn't matter if it's your only choice. You just better be fucking careful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 23:10:34 2013 No.5962785 >>5962757 If you're looking for a replacement molecule that has to be centrosymmetric, linear and with covalent bonds, might i suggest acetylene? There are others that would fit the bill, but it's a pretty common gas to have around the lab.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 11 23:24:33 2013 No.5962801 >>5956539 >>5962785 Woops, wrong reply. Try acetylene. If it works, be sure to thank Loughborough university UK lol

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Mon Aug 12 03:04:32 2013 No.5963039
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>>5962128
>>5962785
Been doing some digging and these are the best choices of what I've been able to find so far.

CS2 is the better of the two it seems - its structure and bond types are nearly identical to CO2, Sulfur and Oxygen are both chalcogens, CS2 and CO2 have very similar ionization potentials, bond energies, etc (within a factor of two for the most part).

The biggest obstacle seems to be that CS2 is a liquid at room temp so we may have to tweak our distribution system, maybe build some kind of boiler that we can stick in between the source and the regulators connected to the needle valve. I'd also need to do some digging to see what kind of availability and costs are involved for CS2 vs acetylene.

At any rate, I'm meeting with my prof tomorrow morning so I'll mention it to him. I'll mention acetylene as well. Thanks for your help guys.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 03:19:02 2013 No.5963051 Independent study... what does it mean if the teacher says final paper no longer than 20 page? I think i'm going to end up with 15....

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 03:34:34 2013 No.5963059 >>5930616 >that feel when im forced to work a part time job because my parents make me pay rent >that feel when they dont understand i need to do research in my field to fill out my resume go damn baby boomers

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 04:29:02 2013 No.5963103 >>5963059 >"But I don't have time to do research! I have to work 20 hours a week over Summer vacation!" Fuck your bullshit excuses!

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 12:29:40 2013 No.5963614

>>5963039
Had a little think about it before bed and forgot to mention that of course acetylene meets the criteria you wanted, and is of course non-polar. The sp hybridisation in the C-C triple bond might make it somewhat suitable for what you're doing, but i can't say for sure how good replacement a for CO2 it trult will be. Having said that, CO2 is linear and centrosymmetric, so the two permanent dipoles cancel each other out and make the molecule nonpolar overall, so i may have just suggested the best, cheapest gas around as the replacement!

I'd be interested to hear more about your work - is there anything published on it? You mentioned negative CO2 ions - which one(s in particular), i'd like to calculate the bond order(s) and see what makes them so unlikely for myself.

What sort of direction is this research heading in - carbon capture? If you manage to make a load of (CO2)X- ions, i would love to throw in some metals and get some nice crystals out of it. Something new to add to the list for ways of trapping co2?

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Mon Aug 12 14:28:16 2013 No.5963780
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>>5963614
According to existing theory (as I understand it), a negative ion plasma with CO2 can't be produced via electron attachment because the ions are inherently unstable - it can't hold onto the electrons long enough and so instead of behaving like a two-species plasma, the mixture behaves like a positive ion plasma with an ion-neutral gas in it (like the experiments we performed earlier this Summer with Ar, see my poster in >>5934351 ).

The theory we're testing (he hasn't said any names so I'm not sure what kind of publications exist) is that heating in the plasma can cause a change in the structure of the CO2 molecules, turning it from a linear molecule to one with a smaller bond angle, which would supposedly (again, my understanding of chemical physics isn't great so I'm not sure if I've got this right) make any negative ions produced more stable, long enough for the mixture inside the chamber to behave like a two-species plasma (like for example being able to excite EIC waves for the CO2).

We're not really looking at applications right now, it's really basic science research, but I'd be interested in hearing more about carbon capture and crystal interactions if you've got stuff to share.

I didn't mention acetylene but I did bring up the CS2. He seemed interested (they've worked with liquids before so it might not be as big of a deal as I thought to modify the apparatus) but for now it looks like we're going to focus on confirming that negative ions are being produced. While the current drop is consistent with the production of negative ions, the fact that we're not seeing any change in the spectrum (even with how close the frequencies are) has him concerned that we may be seeing some other effect happening here.

On the plus side, it means I can do some more digging into finding out the specifics of CS2 or another suitable CO2-substitute. On the down side, it means I get to spend the rest of the day compiling data from old probe characteristics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 14:31:15 2013 No.5963783 >>5963051 It means 15 is too much. Cut it down.

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 14:43:00 2013 No.5963798

-study Physics
-got to interview for internship at DSTL but failed, so left at short notice to try and sort something out as I dont want to work in a shop all summer
-friend doing PhD in Chemical Engineering and gives me his supervisors email
-I end up doing a 6 week placement and getting paid even though they initially said they had no money
-I get something really good to put on my CV, theres a chance my data may go towards a paper so would have my name on it

It wasn't my field really but it ended up being really interesting making emulsions and seeing how they behave. Got to use cool equipment and improved my skills as well. Would recommend to anyone who needs something to fill the time for summer to just email around the engineering and physical science departments of your uni seeing if they have any projects

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 19:54:17 2013 No.5964434 >>5963798 Pretty cool. You a grad or undergrad?

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 20:29:44 2013 No.5964489

I'm researching different rationality structures for decision theory. The mathematical model has been quite fascinating to work on.

For you math kids out there. If you're passionate about math find something related to the subject you can either apply or advance. More basically, don't be intimidated by the white haired professors, you have clever ideas too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 12 20:32:15 2013 No.5964494 >>5963798 What branch of physics do you study?

Anonymous Mon Aug 12 20:34:15 2013 No.5964498
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> tfw interested in black holes and physics
> tfw I am absolutely terrible at maths

Does anyone have videos that explain black holes to plebs without the use of maths?

The thought of infinity scares me which is why black holes are interesting to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 13 00:02:09 2013 No.5964774 >>5964498 Try learning the math, there's really nothing outright preventing you from doing so. Just takes hard work and perseverance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 13 00:31:08 2013 No.5964823 I just finished my bachelor's degree and i kinda can't go back to my master's degree at the school i was at... How do i get involved in research?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 13 07:46:04 2013 No.5965352 >>5964823 >wants to do a masters >has never done research you best start learning friend

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 13 07:57:05 2013 No.5965367 >>5965352 I was going to ask my professor who seems to like me pretty well. I was technically a non degree seeking student because my grades were just under par. I've done some research for my robotics club, but nothing too formal.

Anonymous Tue Aug 13 08:07:35 2013 No.5965379

>>5964498
give up, obviously if you have no ambition to learn the maths involved and even go as far as to even watch a pleb pop-sci video on black holes that 15 year olds watch to impress their classmates, then you should halt any further interest in physics and the alike.

Anonymous Tue Aug 13 08:27:04 2013 No.5965422

>>5964498
>that explain black holes to plebs without the use of maths?

The only way to get a real understanding of what is going on is to read the mathematics.

Start from the start.

Get GCSE and A-Level textbooks and work your way through them.

Do thousands of problems over the space of a few years and then you will know some maths.

Carl !!dFf2PUolAtC Tue Aug 13 19:50:05 2013 No.5967006
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>>5963780
So it looks like we're going to look at other options for proving that negative ions are being formed rather than try a substitute.

First we're going to do some more analysis of the probe characteristics, there's a parameter related to the ratio of the ion and electron saturation currents and their respective baseline values that should definitively tell us whether or not we're producing negative ions.

There also may be another type of acoustic wave we can excite in order to confirm that the negative ions are CO2 but it will require some modifications to the apparatus and I'm not too clear on the details yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 13 23:48:10 2013 No.5967455 File: 32 KB, 237x304, 1371740556662.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ITT: /sci/ pretends anyone cares about its gay little undergrad projects

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 13 23:48:10 2013 No.5967456 >>5967455 >that pic imply's womans can do real woman science

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 09:08:10 2013 No.5968018 >>5967456 No it doesn't, ya idjit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 14 11:27:35 2013 No.5968225 File: 24 KB, 640x395, jocelyn_bell_burnell_large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5967456 Jocelyn Bell would like a word with you

Anonymous Thu Aug 15 01:19:56 2013 No.5969858

>>5964498
If are anything but brilliant with mathematics, don't waste your time with physics theory. Understanding physics takes work, and part of that work is understanding the math. Like >>5965379 said, if you can't bring yourself to study math (its not even pure math...), you lack ambition to a degree that makes you unsuited for anything theoretical.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 15 20:10:10 2013 No.5971748 >>5964498 >Does anyone have videos that explain black holes to plebs without the use of maths? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmMghIiOQ10

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