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Anonymous Wed Jul 17 17:27:04 2013 No.5907581 [DELETED]

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1 Billion = 1.000.000.000.000

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>>	Pedro Wed Jul 17 17:51:34 2013 No.5907637 i am what.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:08:04 2013 No.5907684 >>5907587 >>5907590 I made a pron site called 2idiots1idea.com

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:23:33 2013 No.5907717 >>5907581 1 billion = 999,999,999.99...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:29:33 2013 No.5907729 >>5907581 Not if you're speaking English it isn't.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:35:04 2013 No.5907741
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>hurr durr let's argue about convention differences

pink = short scale (each word is 10^3 times the previous)
blue = long scale (each word is 10^6 times the previous)
purple = both are used
yellow = various other bullshit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:37:34 2013 No.5907745 File: 16 KB, 327x310, bait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5907741 Which colors are your referring to as "blue" and "purple"? I'm not sure if your blue is maybe my purple.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:42:33 2013 No.5907755 >>5907745 Everyone is perceiving blue and purple exactly the same way. There can never be any confusion. Neuroscience has proved this. There are no qualia.

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Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:46:04 2013 No.5907767

>>5907741
Love how they actually included Antarctica in it. Also Greenland both uses the long scale (Danish) and some weird shit (Greenlandic).

The long scale definitely makes more sense, and is easier to calculate with though.
1 million = 10^6
1 bi-million = 1 billion = 10^6*10^6 = 10^12
1 tri-million = 1 trillion = 10^6*10^6*10^6 = 10^18

And so forth. Makes it easier to convert between the spoken word and the number, which becomes important when reaching higher numbers (for example very few people remember how many zeroes there are in a octillion.)
Put in -ard between them to have more spoken numbers. Simple and rational.

The short system kind of uses the same words, but doesn't understand the logic. Thus a word like a sextillion become rather unfounded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:51:05 2013 No.5907779 >>5907755 'This is only partly true. People can perceive things differently to the extent that their perceptions of that thing we developed during their lifetime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:55:34 2013 No.5907792 >>5907767 not to mention the terms for 10^9 is milliard, for 10^15 is billiard and 10^21 is trilliard, so you can't fuck up as the numbers grow

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:57:33 2013 No.5907795 >>5907779 Impossible. There are no differences in perception. Colors are objectively defined by wave lengths.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:59:04 2013 No.5907798 >>5907795 Some people are colourblind, so they can't perceive all the different wavelengths. So there are at least some differences.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:59:05 2013 No.5907799 >>5907795 purple doesn't have a wavelength. that's violet

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 02:12:05 2013 No.5908591 >>5907798 The brain may be directly stimulated to produce the other colors.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 02:33:34 2013 No.5908645

>>5907799
>categorizing arbitrary limits for electromagnetic waves

you keep saying this... i don't think you know what it means

you could say "plants get energy through photosynthesis" and it doesn't give you a better idea of what exactly is going on. it's over simplified.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:49:16 2013 No.5910239 Yes, this is the definition of a billion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:53:46 2013 No.5910255 >>5907767 >The long scale definitely makes more sense Not in a world with SI prefixes, which are 10^3 apart. >a thousand million lol no

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:57:46 2013 No.5910274 >>5907755 >Everyone is perceiving blue and purple exactly the same way. There can never be any confusion. Neuroscience has proved this. There are no qualia. This response is dumber than the stupid troll it was responding to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 16:49:46 2013 No.5911952 >>5910274 Why was it dumb? It was a neuroscientific fact.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 20 02:44:18 2013 No.5912919 >>5910255 >SI prefixes Those are arbitrary.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 20 02:49:47 2013 No.5912935 >>5910255 Dont they use milliard for 1000 million?

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