/sci/ - Science & Math

File: 18 KB, 300x300, ir.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 03:25:34 2013 No.5904045 [Reply] [Original]

How many hypergeniuses like Jacob Barnett are out there?

I mean I'd consider myself quite intelligent, but by far not as brilliant as him. I'm interested in mathematics and theoretical physics. Now I have been wondering whether I have any chance pursuing such a career, when there are people like him who could easily outperform me. If it's just him and like a dozen of other geniuses, there should be no problem, but if every uni has lots of them, I won't stand a chance.

Do you have any statistics on the number of geniuses in math and science?

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 03:29:04 2013 No.5904051

just do what interests you and what you feel.. you might not get a wikipedia page like Newton but who cares man, at least you did what you wanted to do. You might not prove the biggest theorem, but at the end of the day, you'd be doing what you're interested in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 03:32:33 2013 No.5904054 >>5904045 But think about the amount of pressure on a 'hyper genius'

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 04:09:03 2013 No.5904098 what has he actually achieved?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 04:13:34 2013 No.5904102 >>5904098 Nothing. He's a minature-Langan

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 04:18:35 2013 No.5904109 >>5904098 Except being carried around by his mother and proclaimed a genius for knowing calc1 and saying EINSTEINS WRONG!1! with no concrete evidence at age 13?

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 04:23:35 2013 No.5904115

he will grow up to be a massive asshole with a superiority complex so large it will have its own superiority complex.

being told he is smarter than Einstein, that he is a genius despite the fact he has done nothing at all, will cripple him permanently and set him up for a lifetime of expectations that will remain unrealised.

do you really want to be like that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 04:30:04 2013 No.5904123 >>5904115 ..dang

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 04:52:03 2013 No.5904139 File: 13 KB, 320x240, kristine_jacob_barnett_1369920193872_422213_ver1.0_320_240.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5904045 I'm sure Apsergers has many causes but emotionally smothering mothers probably don't help too much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 04:56:04 2013 No.5904141 Theoretical physics and mathematics isn't a dick measuring contest to see who the smartest person is. Just do it if you enjoy it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:03:06 2013 No.5904144
File: 52 KB, 400x600, ODorney_MathFest2010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>paying attention to Barnett instead of Evan O'Dorney

Evan has actually accomplished stuff including

>National Spelling Bee Champ
>4 time International Math Olympiad gold medalist
>Intel Science Talent Search Winner
>2 time Putnam Fellow
>biggest autist humanity has ever produced (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_tn4qcSNw))

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:25:04 2013 No.5904165 >>5904144 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_tn4qcSNw Oh god.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:32:05 2013 No.5904169 >>5904165 I bet he's fun at parties

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:33:05 2013 No.5904170 >>5904165 he spelt it SCOMBIRDAE instead of SCOMBRIDAE and the news anchor still says it's right....fucking poofter

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:34:33 2013 No.5904172 >>5904170 >spelt it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:35:34 2013 No.5904173 >>5904172 well I never implied that I'm a genius

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:37:05 2013 No.5904176 >>5904173 You don't have to justify yourself to me, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:38:05 2013 No.5904178 >>5904165 Most awkward interview ever. Holy crap.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:42:04 2013 No.5904183

Kid is too deep in his own ego at this point. He is set on a tenured job, but I can't see him accomplishing as much as he could simply because it seems at this point he is doing it for flash instead of interest anymore. Maybe he will be humbled when he meets more smart people.

Terry Tao is more inherently smarter than this kid and he didn't get near this much attention ( parents probably did a good job of it ). Just one trip over to his blog will show that that guy isn't sitting on his laurels ( has publically stated effort is just as important for him which probably multiplies what he can do ).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 05:43:33 2013 No.5904184 >>5904183 Should say when he was a kid*

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:18:34 2013 No.5904217 >Jacob Barnett >a person with ASD >genius He's stupid. He's so stupid that he can't do anything but physics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:37:04 2013 No.5904225 So smart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-FOOQ1TpE

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:37:04 2013 No.5904226 >>5904183 Agree, his parents fucked up whatever potential he had.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:41:34 2013 No.5904232

>I mean I'd consider myself quite intelligent, but by far not as brilliant as him. I'm interested in mathematics and theoretical physics. Now I have been wondering whether I have any chance pursuing such a career, when there are people like him who could easily outperform me. If it's just him and like a dozen of other geniuses, there should be no problem, but if every uni has lots of them, I won't stand a chance.

There is plenty to do for everyone involved. And although people like him are very intelligent in obvious ways, it is not a given that they will outperform people of a more conventional academic history. You honestly can't know what you'll be able to achieve until you try. And besides you'll probably also meet people who weren't child prodigies but still seemingly smarter and more successful that you are. Everybody in academia probably had such a moment where they realized that they weren't the single most intelligent person on earth. You'll get over it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:47:03 2013 No.5904234 >>5904225 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-FOOQ1TpE the fuck did i just watch

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:47:04 2013 No.5904236

I might be wrong but aren't most Noble laureates from pretty conventional academic background?

And furthermore most successful child prodigies (i.e. those who don't eventually burn out) end up performing little more compared to other successful academics. I mean, yes, eventually you get a quirk like Von Neumann but that exceedingly rare even among child prodigies.

Statistically you should be more worried if you lack Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 06:55:04 2013 No.5904242 >>5904225 This might be incredibly good, but I will never know because I couldn't stand more than a minute of the voice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:09:04 2013 No.5904256 >>5904242 it's easier to give the kid props for being a genius than to listen to him speak, I agree.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:24:33 2013 No.5904267

I'd like to see him take a 4D or 5D rotation test. Essentially, he is presented with various projection of 4D or 5D models and has to redraw them rotated in a specific axis. The layman might be able to do this given enough time but if his claims are true then it shouldn't be any harder than the average person rotating a 2D or 3D figure.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:28:04 2013 No.5904268

http://www.damninteresting.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-william-j-sidis/

This is what a child genius looks like. Apart from him not meeting the criteria, it doesn't end well.

Also, I remember watching a Panorama (or possibly Horizon) episode about some kid from India whose parents declared him a genius because he did a simple big of surgery (fixing a syndactyly hand) when he was 7 and thought he had a cure for cancer. Interestingly, he tested as being of above average intelligence in some areas and below in others. Also, the kid thought he had an idea for an oral cure for cancer but his ideas utterly failed under even simple scrutiny.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:30:04 2013 No.5904269 Is he planning to do the math olympiad ever? If not all he really amounts to being is a media overhype.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 07:33:34 2013 No.5904274 >>5904268 I remember that indian kid. I remember him presenting his idea as "if I can just create something that kills cancers cells but leaves regular cells alone I'll have a cure!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 08:43:33 2013 No.5904333 >>5904268 I always did wonder what happened to that guy.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 08:57:34 2013 No.5904340

The attention this kid gets is horribly allocated. Take for example his famous appearence on Glenn Beck, the kid was getting praised by his parents and the media for doing a simple integral convergence test on an infinite series. The praise and sense of accomplishment he was getting was almost like he solved fucking Goldbach's. If he takes this praise to heart, he probably won't do much with his genius.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 09:13:33 2013 No.5904352

>>5904267

What's with all these stupid tests?

You know what should be a quantifier of somebody's overall aptitude? Success. Stop with the penis measurements and start praising kids for accomplishing things that matter.

And while I don't swallow all the hype around the kid, I'm not going to say he isn't somewhat special. His rate of learning is incredible and he already managed to publish a paper, which is more than you lot have achieved at his age and probably even today. And with a past as a tutor I can safely say, that no, not everybody can learn stuff just as fast if their parents pushed them more.

Finally the speculation about his future fate is a misguided fantasy that fails to notice that the ones that burned out were often socially inept and introverted. This kid seems to do rather well in the social department, again probably better than a few losers on here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 09:20:03 2013 No.5904354 >>5904352 Thanks white knight

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 09:39:33 2013 No.5904364 >>5904352 >What's with all these stupid tests? The kid claimed he could visualise 5 dimensions. It would be interesting to see if this was a genuine claim or the result of a misunderstanding (or outright lying)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 09:45:04 2013 No.5904369 >>5904098 he's had a few astronomy papers published

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 09:54:33 2013 No.5904377 >>5904352 >success >reliable quantifier of somebody's overall aptitude its almost like you live in a vacuum where circumstance doesn't exist now success relative to circumstance, thats a good quantifier, untestable though.

joker !KNs1o0VDv6 Tue Jul 16 10:21:34 2013 No.5904404 [DELETED]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2363834/Americas-brightest-teen-Girl-went-college-12-set-PHD-16.html#ixzz2ZDUG7NHY

MUH SOCIALIZATION

Tesca Fitzgerald will be heading off to grad school, but when she finally begins classes at the Georgia Institute of Technology, her classmates will be several years older than her.

In college at age 12, Tesca just graduated from Portland State University and is on the fast track to receive her PhD in cognitive science and human robotic interaction by age 22.

Her mom Ami Fitzgerald says its all down to their homeschooling that has allowed her daughters the freedom to study at their own speed.

>inb4 daily mail

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:24:04 2013 No.5904410

>>5904352
We aren't debating he is smart. We are debating whether or not his accelerating learning and genius will enable him to have profound success in the future compared to others in his field. We are conjecturing no because of how much his ego has been inflated due to his portrayal in pop culture and his parents.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:25:04 2013 No.5904412 >>5904352 >success >an indicator of intelligence huehuehue I guess soccer players must be really intelligent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 10:55:03 2013 No.5904449 >>5904102 I thought langan was a fraud? He certainly seems like it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 11:17:04 2013 No.5904470 >>5904225 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-FOOQ1TpE omfg I don't even know what to do. cringe/rage/laugh. The autism level is over 9000

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 11:25:33 2013 No.5904474 >>5904045 You seriously think Jacob Barnett is a hyper-genius, then you're an idiot and you're right that you will have no change in any intellectual field.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 11:26:33 2013 No.5904476 >>5904474 chance*

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 11:30:35 2013 No.5904480 >>5904144 he is the ultimate autist, he is the hero /sci/ needs but not the one it deserves right now for now we must use jacbo barnett

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 11:35:06 2013 No.5904493 >>5904045 He and I have the same sweaters. I love those half turtle necks. >>5904474 Care to share what field are you in? What work are you doing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 12:48:33 2013 No.5904621 >>5904274 He's on a good path

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:06:04 2013 No.5904651 >>5904144 >>5904165 umm... Does it mean I'm autistic if I don't find anything wrong with the way he acted? Beyond just general awkwardness...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:07:05 2013 No.5904657 >>5904651 He's 13. Of course he's not experienced in giving a talk infront of a huge audience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:13:36 2013 No.5904672 >>5904657 so there's nothing wrong with it then right? I was worried cause everyone else responding to that post is like in awe at how autistic he is. To me I just see a kid not wanting to be embarrassed for making a mistake that wasn't his fault.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:24:33 2013 No.5904693 >>5904449 Whatever you think of his CTMU or IQ, he is definitely way above average when it comes to intelligence.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:37:34 2013 No.5904719

>>5904236

The thing about Von Neumann is that he was not autistic like some of the other specimen in this thread. He actually enjoyed socializing and throwing parties and he was actually able to communicate well ; he could, according to anecdote, explain complex topics in a way where most people would see them as obvious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:46:34 2013 No.5904736 https://twitter.com/PwningEinstein Jesus christ his twitter is full of cringey posts, trying way too hard to sound smart

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:49:04 2013 No.5904742 >>5904736 Holy shit!!!111! what little respect I had for that kid has just entirely disappeared...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:49:34 2013 No.5904743 >>5904144 >biggest autist humanity has ever produced (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_tn4qcSNw)) Oh god, that was so painful to watch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:51:34 2013 No.5904746 >>5904268 >"It is not possible to actually construct models of the figures of the Fourth Dimension, or to conceive of them in the mind's eye, but it is easy to construct them by means of Euclid's theorem." Jacob Fartnett Status : [X] : Told

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:52:03 2013 No.5904747 >>5904109 this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:57:34 2013 No.5904753 Maybe he is a prodigy, but it appears his parents are too busy marketing him as the next einstein and setting unreasonable expectations thereby to do what is best for cultivating him to use his talent in ways that will serve him best in the future.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:57:34 2013 No.5904754 File: 21 KB, 243x326, 1351224909220.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ------------------------------------- Everyone above this line has been trolled. You will never recover this moments of your life Sage kills cancer

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 13:58:04 2013 No.5904756 >>5904045 Are you saying that this kid started doing complex math all of a sudden?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:01:04 2013 No.5904761 >>5904045 >>5904045 >Dat Stage Mother.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:02:03 2013 No.5904762 >>5904746 >It is not possible to actually construct models of the figures of the Fourth Dimension, or to conceive of them in the mind's eye, but it is easy to construct them by means of Euclid's theorem." [citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:03:04 2013 No.5904763 >>5904761 That's his girlfriend, not his mom. I can understand that neckbeards like you don't know what a girlfriend is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:03:04 2013 No.5904764 >>5904736 >PwningEinstein Nope.That's enough reason for me not to check that out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:09:03 2013 No.5904774 >>5904763 >dat turtle neck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:10:34 2013 No.5904775 >>5904045 0/10 >mfw people replying to this thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:15:34 2013 No.5904778 This kid should have been bullied.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:27:05 2013 No.5904792 >>5904045 When he is such a genius, how come his girlfriend is so ugly?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:28:05 2013 No.5904794 >>5904267 Sounds fun. Where could I find such a test? Google didn't help.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:28:34 2013 No.5904795 >>5904763 9.8/10 Would bang

>>	sMk !ArcH9WpopA Tue Jul 16 14:31:34 2013 No.5904796 Knock Knock. Who's there? Albert. Albert who? Albert you thought I was gonna say Einstein. #BoyGenius

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:33:34 2013 No.5904798 >>5904045 If i want my son to be an hypergenius Is it absolutely necessary to teach him physics? I thought there could be geniuses in all the other fields, even the bullshit ones.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:38:33 2013 No.5904810

>>5904798
"Genius" in a social science field doesn't make any sense. Those fields aren't based on truth, but on seniority and reputation: a paper is published based on the author, not the contents. The only way to be a "genius" in such a field would be to be a genius at Machiavellian social manipulation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:39:04 2013 No.5904812 >>5904139 I wonder if they take baths together

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 14:49:33 2013 No.5904838 >>5904763 Am I going blind or does she look much older than him?

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 15:05:04 2013 No.5904882

>>5904762

I was talking less of :
>>It is not possible to actually construct models of the figures of the Fourth Dimension,

and more about :
> or to conceive of them in the mind's eye,

I just wanted to give the full sentence for clarity's sake. It's been a while since Sidis's time so there may be models of 4 dimensional space(I would assume Sidis meant visual models), but I am not aware of them.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 15:09:33 2013 No.5904898

>>5904882
Is this really fucking /sci/? It says /sci/ in the URL, but it's starting to sound like /pol/....

here's a fucking model of 4 dimensional space. a swimming pool, and you have the power to change its temperature at will (but only in a continuous way). there you go. the 4th dimension is temperature. don't like that temperature? replace with any other property you like

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 15:13:34 2013 No.5904916 >>5904882 When you say that sth is impossible that covers all time. Why would I believe one claimed genius boy's claim over another claimed genius boy's claim that visualizing the 4th dimension is impossible?

>>	sMk !ArcH9WpopA Tue Jul 16 15:14:33 2013 No.5904917 >>5904810 Genii exist in the Arts, I'm sure you'd agree. The Arts are not based off of truth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 15:15:35 2013 No.5904924 >>5904898 >don't like that temperature? replace with any other property you like Ok. How about space? Please visual that for me and report what it was like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 15:16:04 2013 No.5904926 >>5904924 *visualize

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 15:24:34 2013 No.5904975

>>5904917
Genius exists in the arts but it's not something one is born with (inb4 Bach---who actually listens to Bach music? aside from talking about it to sound smart, it's actually pretty shitty). One obtains music in the arts through tens of thousands of hours of practice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 15:39:04 2013 No.5905022 >>5904975 > it's not something one is born with Arguable. > who actually listens to Bach music? aside from talking about it to sound smart, it's actually pretty shitty Confirmed for pleb.

>>	TRIPFAG DEFENCE FORCE !!BJiYgff8zf2 Tue Jul 16 16:30:36 2013 No.5905184 >>5905022 Pachelbel > Bach

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 16:33:06 2013 No.5905192 >>5905184 Sisqo > Bach

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 16:41:05 2013 No.5905224

>>5904144

Autists don't do well in research science. Autists can quickly learn very complex things (i.e. high IQ), but fail to employ the kind of creativity needed to thrive (i.e. transcend to the level of being top in their field). The next Einstein, or Feynman, or Gell-Man, or whoever will not be an autist. Really, the greatest autist ever in science has been Dirac. There aren't many besides him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 16:41:05 2013 No.5905226 >>5904144 Oh my god. He looks fucking crushed when he first gets it wrong.

Anonymous Tue Jul 16 16:44:03 2013 No.5905236

>>5904045
it is odd to praise autists like Jacob Barnett, particularly when they are so young.

What he does now may seem impressive, but most autists fail to accomplish much academically or scientifically in the long run.

Everyone would agree that what Kim Peek could do was amazing, but he couldn't hold even a simple job. He couldn't even live on his own.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 16:46:04 2013 No.5905245 >>5905236 At least Kim Peek had a brain damage as an excuse. I don't and I have the same problem about holding jobs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 17:21:05 2013 No.5905385 File: 68 KB, 430x430, tumblr_lx722oLetv1r73ya6o1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5905245 I like him :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 17:23:34 2013 No.5905397 >>5905385 Nobody likes me :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 17:24:37 2013 No.5905400 >>5904045 Why people likes this guy so much? He's not even a scientist! Every scientist knows that you can't prove a negative.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 18:42:05 2013 No.5905575 >>5905400 >He's not even a scientist! He has a science degree.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 18:46:04 2013 No.5905582 >>5905575 So?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 20:08:04 2013 No.5905729 >>5904165 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_tn4qcSNw that feel when that kid will get laid 100x's more than you in 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 20:51:34 2013 No.5905823 >>5904098 Puberty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 23:07:33 2013 No.5906009 >>5904274 well he's not wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 23:21:34 2013 No.5906033 File: 9 KB, 275x183, cow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5905400 >you can't prove a negative This animal has four stomachs. A cat has one stomach. Therefore, It's not a cat. Q.E.D bitches!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 23:33:33 2013 No.5906056 File: 220 KB, 958x608, Jacob.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sign error. Mediocre genius.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 16 23:48:03 2013 No.5906077 >>5906056 I was skeptical at first. But holy shit, now that I know he can integrate by parts I think we should def give him a nobel prize.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 00:18:34 2013 No.5906122 >>5904736 Some of this kid's posts could be taken ironically, but some others are most likely not. He really comes off as a huge twat there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 00:24:34 2013 No.5906135 >>5906122 That med school zinger made me laugh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 00:27:04 2013 No.5906139 >>5905400 Wait what do you mean you can't prove a negative? It's fist time I head this. Negative is just the opposite for the positive so it's not that it exists, but rather holds a value for the opposite.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 00:38:04 2013 No.5906151

>>5904736
>I hit 100 followers. Thanks guys! That is 100 more than Einstein ever had! #BoyGenius

>I'm hungry. Wish my future Nobel Prize was made out of chocolate. Or a flattened spaghetti composite. #College #BoyGenius

>Dont understand why a theoretical physicist of my stature should be forced into taking Intro to Lit. Gatsby is barely in this book! #college

>I'm tweeting underneath the covers. I may be a quantum genius, but mom is a "knowing when i'm not asleep" genius. #StillGrounded

>Knock Knock. Who's there? Albert. Albert who? Albert you thought I was gonna say Einstein. #BoyGenius

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 00:45:04 2013 No.5906169 >>5906151 Wow and autist who sounds autistic fucking crazy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 01:06:34 2013 No.5906204 >>5904165 He's kind of an asshole

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 01:33:34 2013 No.5906232 >>5905823 Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 01:35:33 2013 No.5906234 >>5904736 >https://twitter.com/PwningEinstein that HAS to be a fake account

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 01:39:04 2013 No.5906239 File: 44 KB, 754x870, 1350624252233.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5906234 >Not only am I smarter than Einstein, my cat actually IS both alive and dead at the same time. Eat it, Schrödinger. #BoyGenius #ZombieCat

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 02:02:33 2013 No.5906261 the twitter has to be a fake though come on

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 02:03:33 2013 No.5906265 >>5904144 shit I only knew about the spelling thing, the math achievments are pretty fucking impressive

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 15:39:03 2013 No.5907359 >>5905184 This.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 15:54:04 2013 No.5907395 >>5904144 >Spelling Bee Fist i watd. Then i remember that English is very inconsistent in its spelling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 15:58:34 2013 No.5907404 >>5907395 >>5904144 Only in 'murrica children are considered intelligent solely for knowing how spell correctly.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 16:11:04 2013 No.5907434

If you go to a top50 worldwide university in maths/physics, you will be surrounded by geniuses. I don't know about any accomplishments of that Barnett kid (simply because I don't care), so I can't compare the people I know to him, but yeah - guys learning crystalline cohomology, derived algebraic geometry or the Weil conjectures in their undergrad qualify as geniuses to me. You will feel like a complete idiot unless you already competed in the IMO or similar competitions at a young age. The trick is to not let this bring you down, and do your best anyways.

This is just anecdotal evidence, but consider that my uni isn't even in the top50 according to The Times ranking. Still the amount of extremely intelligent students is intimidating (and I mean PhD-at-24-intelligent).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:05:34 2013 No.5907673 >>5907434 >crystalline cohomology, derived algebraic geometry or the Weil conjectures lol I did those when I was 12

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:19:34 2013 No.5907708 >>5907673 go away Jacob

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:30:34 2013 No.5907731 >>5907434 He wants to disprove the big bang, this is bullshit. He should try to prove something else instead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:46:36 2013 No.5907769 >>5905184 >>5905192 >>5907359 Baroque is shit, you fucking plebs.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 18:49:34 2013 No.5907775

Sometimes I feel bad for Jacob Barnett. He's obviously relatively smart, but he's still a kid and his beliefs are just what his parents have shoved down his throat. He's going to grow up to be a pretty good physicist and he's going to hate himself and his family for letting him be such an idiot as a kid. I bet the poor fucker kills himself... I know I would.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 19:04:34 2013 No.5907810 >>5906139 see>>5906033

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 19:11:33 2013 No.5907830 >>5906033 >>5907810 Evidence of absence is not absence of evidence. What evidence Jeek can offer?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:11:34 2013 No.5908045 >>5907830 >Evidence of absence is not absence of evidence. Actually it is. lrn2logic

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:12:34 2013 No.5908049 >>5907830 You got that backwards, dipshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:14:34 2013 No.5908051 So far people have stated that this kid wants to disprove... >the Big Bang >Einstein What are his reasons for believing that either are wrong?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:14:34 2013 No.5908052 >>5908045 >>5908049 Are you guys saying that all atheists are wrong? I GOT YOU ALL, DUMBFUCKS!!! FEAR THE POWER OF THE ALLMIGHTY LORD

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:18:03 2013 No.5908056 Aim to be the best

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:22:34 2013 No.5908062 >>5908051 Because it arouses the interest of plebeians across the nation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:27:04 2013 No.5908070 >>5906077 don't bash him so much, were you able to integrate at age 12? I personally learned integrals at age 18 or 19. Sure , this isn't a guarantee that he will do great things , but it gives him a higher %

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:27:04 2013 No.5908071 >>5908051 Christian parents.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:29:05 2013 No.5908074 >>5908070 You learned calculus when you were 18? Hahahahaha oh wow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:31:04 2013 No.5908077 >>5908070 There's no scientist in /sci/. The critics use philosophical arguments against him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 21:37:33 2013 No.5908091 >>5908071 The Big Bang could be seen as anti-theist, though a Catholic priest first proposed the idea. None of Einstein's work is explicitly anti-Christian, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 02:49:36 2013 No.5908681 >>5908052 They are wrong if they dismiss fundamental principles of rationality.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 03:03:05 2013 No.5908709

>>5904045

No Genius masters an entire field, sucking all the problems and spitting out all the solutions.

When that Genius appears, she/he will rock until new boundaries of ignorance confound her/him. Then you can get to work.

Get on with your passion and stop worrying about the other fellow.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 03:13:35 2013 No.5908726 >>5908074 honestly i'm pretty sure a 12 year old could do first level calculus

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:32:19 2013 No.5909535 >>5904449 He is. His score, even when not fake is ratio too, so its less than Barnett.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:40:47 2013 No.5909541 "Not only am I gonna smash Einstein's theory of relativity, my posthumous bagel place is going to be MUCH better. Suck it, Al." This is from his twitter. What an arrogant piece of shit. And the beautiful thing is that he will fail, miserably fail.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:41:18 2013 No.5909542 People place hopes in such a fast learner. But since he learns so fast he'll eventually plateau and be as knowledgeable as any other adult math person and he won't contribute and we'll forget about him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:43:48 2013 No.5909544 >>5904747 THIS

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:48:47 2013 No.5909549 >fast learner >spends all day studying >fast learner hah!! i'm not impressed by this type of autism (tunnel vision). if everyone wasn't so distracted by other things than learning, everyone would be a 'fast learner'...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:20:16 2013 No.5910328 >>5909542 >But since he learns so fast he'll eventually plateau How do you know?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:24:16 2013 No.5910339 >>5904045 She's from the "stay virgin" movement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 22:54:47 2013 No.5910501 >>5904139 It's typical mother behavior. But taken to an unhealthy extreme. >This is my only true achievement

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 16:44:16 2013 No.5911943 >>5910339 Is that a good or a bad thing?

Anonymous Sat Jul 20 01:00:25 2013 No.5912678

I feel that when you're an asshole/shitty human being then the value of your work diminishes, if even a little bit.
Although this effect is largely dependent both on how much of a dick you are and how influential/useful your work is to people who have no relation to you, ultimately it is hard for me to disassociate a person from their work unless it has effectively been done for me.
Furthermore, so much about making an impact in whatever field you are in is effective communication. If you are an asshole, then that will be a whole hell of a lot harder than if you are amiable and humble and can get friends and colleagues to support and listen to you.

Also... two more simple notes:
1. So many more groundbreaking discoveries have been made by people who were not considered "geniuses" than those that were prescribed such labels early on in their career. (I find a generalized statistical argument can be taken here in lieu of specific data) I believe most "geniuses' "accomplishments granted them the fame required to achieve such a status.

2. Science is not done in a vacuum and hasn't been done in a vacuum in over 100 years. Anyone who sits in their own private lab and relies on only their own intelligence for success certainly is not deserving of the genius label.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 20 01:01:46 2013 No.5912679 >>5911943 It means that Jacob never did and won't get laid with her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 20 02:14:47 2013 No.5912813 >>5905729 >autists >getting laid regularly Pick one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 20 02:43:18 2013 No.5912914 >>5910328 The vast majority of fast learners plateu precisely because their exceptional abilities lie in absorbing large amounts of information quickly - and not necessarily in their ability to create new information.

Anonymous Sat Jul 20 10:47:16 2013 No.5913584

>>5904115
I can tell from interviews he is being encouraged to be an arrogant asswipe. He seems like a genuine person but he is being swayed by everyone acting so fucking inferior to him.
Also, his bitch ass mother who thinks she had something to do with his talents.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 20 11:05:56 2013 No.5913610 File: 88 KB, 340x256, 13562412635703.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >be really good at physics >talk to Glenn Beck about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 20 19:24:04 2013 No.5914296 >>5912914 >and not necessarily in their ability to create new information. Can he train the skill of creating new information?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 20 19:25:35 2013 No.5914300 From his Twitter the kid seems like a real dick.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 21 03:17:36 2013 No.5914929 >>5914300 What is his twitter?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 21 03:35:06 2013 No.5914970 >>5904172 Spelled and Spelt are actually both correct, with spelled being used in the US and spelt and spelled in the UK.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 21 18:38:34 2013 No.5916100 >>5914970 Why is there no consensus on how to spell it?

Anonymous Sun Jul 21 18:44:34 2013 No.5916122

>>5904045
if everyone on this forum considers themselves more intelligent than the average, then who's below average. Who's the truly intelligent person. Get over yourselves. You probably have average intelligence like everyone else. Just because you have more knowledge does not make you more intelligent. Anyone can read a fucking book

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 21 18:45:34 2013 No.5916126 >>5914300 He is literally autistic, what on earth could you have expected

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 21 20:05:34 2013 No.5916269 >>5904404 proof that public schooling is horrible

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 02:05:05 2013 No.5916747 >>5904141 take his advise

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 02:46:04 2013 No.5916782 autismal people generally fail at real results, sort of like females that are good at tests and showing off with factoids but fail in the real world

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 04:11:33 2013 No.5916855

I just want a share some of my experiences

>mother made me sit some form of intelligence test when I was like 4 or 5
>I turn out to be highly gifted
>coast through primary school, don't put any effort in because it's easy for me
>get scholarship to best school in the city
>drop out in first year because I had no work ethic at all and my friends all went to the high school near where we lived
>fart around in high school, don't even take senior physics, chemistry or the most advanced maths because I was an idiot
>end up graduating in the top third of all students statewide
>go to uni and drop out of two courses due to poor grades (IT and Engineering (Don't even know why I attempted it without the basics))
>complete a semester of Education, but it's literally learning the primary school syllabus all over again

I got a full time job after this and have had a lot of time to think about the mistakes I made. Having raw intelligence really doesn't mean anything if you're not willing to put in the work to learn even the most basic concepts. Even if you're of average intelligence, you can still do very well if you're willing to put in the time to study and apply the concepts that you're learning.

There's this one guy I went to school with all through primary and high school, and although I considered him to be one of the slower kids in primary school he's now one of the smartest and most well rounded people that I know. He ended up becoming school captain and is now studying ChemEng at a top uni.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 04:15:04 2013 No.5916856 >>5916855 >tfw you know this feel all too well the only difference is i did take all advanced classes in HS for the longest time i just convinced myself i must be stupid after failing uni without studying. i honestly don't know how

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 04:30:35 2013 No.5916866

>>5916855
Continuing from this post, can anyone recommend some good complete resources for learning high school chemistry and physics? I've found a good maths text that I'm working through but I need one for chem and phys if I'm going to attempt engineering again. I need to reverse the trend of the last 8 years so I can stop disappointing myself and my family.

Is
>http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Physics_Study_Guide
or
>http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A-level_Physics_%28Advancing_Physics%29

A good place to start?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 04:34:05 2013 No.5916870 >>5916866 khanacademy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 04:51:33 2013 No.5916876 >>5904377 >not defining success properly

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 04:54:05 2013 No.5916878 >>5916876 sorry, meant to reply to >>5904412

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 05:04:35 2013 No.5916884 >>5906151 you forgot >Q: What is the name of the first electricity detective? A: Sherlock Ohms Pretty sure that is funnier than Aristocrats joke I don't get. >Aristocrats joke I don't get how cute, lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 05:10:34 2013 No.5916886 >>5904651 No it's pretty fucked up, he can't handle getting it wrong at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 05:12:04 2013 No.5916887 >>5904141 >Just do it if you enjoy it. :') the wisest words i've heard in a long time. thank you, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 05:13:04 2013 No.5916888 >>5904651 Yeah I think you must be an autist. He almost comes across as retarded, like he doesn't know how to speak.

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 05:14:34 2013 No.5916891

>>5904719

Quite true. Von Neumann was no autist. He was a perfectly ordinary man who enjoyed parties, fine food, and fine living, and was very personable. The only difference between him and an average bon vivant is that he was the cleverest man who has ever lived.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 05:15:33 2013 No.5916895 >>5906151 This has to be a deliberate parody.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 05:18:05 2013 No.5916898 >>5916855 >>mother made me sit some form of intelligence test when I was like 4 or 5 >>I turn out to be highly gifted This means absolutely fuck all at that age. Your intellect is still developing, being smarter than other 4 year olds means nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 13:15:12 2013 No.5917559 >>5916898 At what age does being smarter than your peers mean something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 13:47:04 2013 No.5917611 >>5904269 I have golden medal from national math olympiad. I'm i genius aswell now ?

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 17:57:29 2013 No.5918180

>>5917559
I'm not him, but before 18, an IQ test is absolutely worthless because IQ like height, some children grows fast in a few years and then stays in level, somebody adopts later etc. there will be a point where you won't grow further. Same applies to IQ.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 20:44:58 2013 No.5918602 >>5905397 I don't know you but I LIKE YOU... oh yeah and I like Kim Peek

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 20:45:59 2013 No.5918604 i'm guessing one. i got good grades in math and science.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:00:29 2013 No.5918654 >>5904144 alpha as fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:07:31 2013 No.5918668 >>5909541 >And the beautiful thing is that he will fail, miserably fail. As much as I hate him, his failure will only be tragic, since at this pointing meeting his own expectations has become impossible short of proving or disproving P=NP, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:25:59 2013 No.5918706 >>5905224 >Really, the greatest autist ever in science has been Dirac. Dirac was autistic? this sounds like a good story

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:38:59 2013 No.5918737 wasnt tesla kinda autistic too?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:40:59 2013 No.5918742 File: 10 KB, 251x251, vomit chan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5906056 >that integral sign

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:44:41 2013 No.5918757

figure our how to utilize your talent. don't be complacent with simply earning high marks. start your own projects. pursue independent study. never let a question go unanswered. write them all down.

be humble enough to take criticism from professionals. ask for assistance. learn to be social with professors and other instructors, if you really are clever and you aren't an annoying asshole many would be happy to have you assist their work. do that.

find out what you love and pour all of your energy into it.

Anonymous Mon Jul 22 21:56:28 2013 No.5918778

The thing is that your intelligence doesn't really go up that much between 12 and 18, it's just that most kids spend their childhoods playing video games and jerking off rather than being whipped by their parents. Any baby that's been locked in an attic for 13 years could learn enough calculus to impress a newscaster.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 01:59:58 2013 No.5919177 >>5918778 Jacob Barnett has a life and still managed to learn calculus in two weeks.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 11:16:43 2013 No.5919799

>>5918778
>learn calculus
Learning calculus is not impressive, I learned it in one week. Solving problems is impressive. Can he solve problems? Ever seen him do proper problem sets? Give him a step paper or something, let's see if he really is intelligent or just good at memorisation.

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 11:31:51 2013 No.5919826

>>5916855

My experience was:

>always do better than my peers when I felt like it, but as an, admittedly, stupid kid I got bored so I didn't do stuff that often
>ask to be put into advanced classes because the regular ones are boring after being constantly told I should be in the advanced classes
>get denied from there because they don't think I'll do the work that'll actually challenge me
>stay bored in regular school
>ask mom if she can set it up to where I'm homeschooled and I basically teach myself
>she agrees that would be fine and sets it up
>breeze through it, pass all the tests while being in the top 10% of my state's testing
>self teach myself more after that while working with my friend because I was bored sitting around and figured why not since he's my friend and we can work and shoot the shit all day
>eventually quit because I get bored of that too
>get pushed to go to college, even though I keep saying that I don't want to since I'm pretty much able to teach myself anything I want to do
>enroll
>stay for less than a semester because I had to take pointless general courses (I've heard it's not that way in other places outside the US)
>teach myself the stuff I want to do
>still get shit for not going to college

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 12:03:20 2013 No.5919870 >>5906056 You must be so sad to sit and look for that. Still, you're right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 18:19:54 2013 No.5920375 >>5919826 Part of getting a degree involves showing that you've matured beyond the point of doing whatever the hell you feel like, whenever you feel like doing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 18:33:25 2013 No.5920406 >>5919177 With autistic memory/ processing speed that doesn't necessarily seem that challenging. When you think about it if your algebra is solid then calculus is a breeze.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 18:37:24 2013 No.5920409 >>5905224 Why this, the langan guy with the "highest IQ" and other people alike have never done a discovery in physics or maths. Where is ur god now? Can someone explain this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 18:38:24 2013 No.5920410 >>5905184 >>5904975 ITT: Tasteless retards

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 18:39:24 2013 No.5920411 >>5906232 His facebook says in a relationship

Anonymous Tue Jul 23 18:42:53 2013 No.5920413

>>5919826

I know. What is up with having to take general ed classes that have nothing to do with your major? I have to take California Government and a second language course even though neither of them have anything do with my major. I have to waste more time on other shit instead of focusing all my time on what I want to do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 18:45:23 2013 No.5920417 I'm smothered by my mother. I wish I was a genius. >taking pre-calculus at 25

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 18:59:54 2013 No.5920448 that twitter is just... too much

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 19:27:23 2013 No.5920528 >>5920411 he's married to science

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 04:44:54 2013 No.5921222 >>5920417 >pre-calculus at 25 You must live in a tribal society. How do you even have an internet connection?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 16:46:02 2013 No.5922244 >>5921222 Not everyone is a maths genius like you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 23:52:02 2013 No.5922805 >>5922244 Beginner Calculus isn't hard though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 23:58:32 2013 No.5922814 >>5904045 the answer is; money.

Anonymous Thu Jul 25 00:24:33 2013 No.5922850
File: 33 KB, 437x357, ymca.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>5904225

> gets into stage and yells "are you readiie!?"
> talks fast
> having hard time to stabilize every sentence with a body movement
> talks about simple physical rules and consequences, describes as quantum
> uses nonesense words where he doesnt know what to say to transmit his claim like, "aaight, y'now"
> pleases ego with offensive jokes trying to claim the altitude he think he deserves
> wears sandals
> Sagan-ish hair
> still talks about what he've done, instead of futuristic ideas or new things.

currently 6/10

potential is nearly zero. Probably one of those overrated kids with ADHD had enough luck and gift of reference to get on that stage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 00:37:32 2013 No.5922868 jeez, he's just a kid. give him a break, he's doing well for someone his age.

Anonymous Thu Jul 25 00:43:03 2013 No.5922872

>>5922805
different anon

Some people just find things more difficult than others. The pre-calc guy might have been getting assraped by his father for the first 20 years of his life. I bet that would fuck up your ability to concentrate in class and learn shit at a normal rate.

The point: things you find easy are usually easy because you've been brought to that point by a certain path. Not everyone else has followed the same path (in the same time, etc.).

Besides, all brains are not equal. Assrape boy might be a mechanical wizard or musical virtuoso while still sucking at math.

Anonymous Thu Jul 25 01:00:33 2013 No.5922894
File: 296 KB, 400x267, 1374551207081.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

I wasn't aware that the pursuit of knowledge was a competition.

When I'm old as fuck, decrepit, and laying on my deathbed I'm not going to think about the kids in their early 20s who were already working on their postgrads when I started my engineering and physics education at 26.

I'm studying because I want to, because I have an aptitude for it and because I want to get answers to the questions I've asked since age 3.

Comparisons are pointless. The integrity and quality of your own work is what matters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 01:20:01 2013 No.5922911 File: 37 KB, 450x600, 1367877547611.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5922850 /thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 02:31:32 2013 No.5923004 ITT: envious people

Anonymous Thu Jul 25 10:58:34 2013 No.5923531

>>5904045
I don't care how smart that little nigger is. Remember that South Korean genius a while back who learned languages at like 4 and had the worlds highest IQ and worked with NASA? He has not achieved squat since then even though people we clamoring how he would win the Nobel Prize.

I bet the only thing this guy will achieve is getting laid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 11:26:04 2013 No.5923559 >>5922911 For a second there, my IQ went below 40.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 11:29:03 2013 No.5923563 >>5904693 LOL, based on what? His TOE was torn to shreds when people in physics actually looked at it. At best, he's a quack, at worst, he's purposely deceptive (I believe the latter).

Anonymous Thu Jul 25 11:54:02 2013 No.5923584

>>5904225
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-FOOQ1TpE

>ethan is a biochimist
>wesley is a meteorologist
>kids of approximately 8 years old
>8 fucking years old
> biochimist meteorologist

oh god ...

>barnet throw paper into the airs, people applause.

why ? just why ? and that laught of him ... this is just unbearable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 17:49:31 2013 No.5924268 >>5923563 >His TOE was torn to shreds [citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 17:56:01 2013 No.5924283 >>5904736 >#BoyGenius Jesus fucking christ I want to fling a fucking planet into this kid's face at relativistic speeds

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 01:30:02 2013 No.5925017 >>5904045 Because learning prior knowledge really makes you smart, right? Even a parrot can mimic what it has been told, but when the parrot starts creating new words for itself then I'd be impressed. Same applies here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 01:38:01 2013 No.5925022 >>5908070 I knew two people in HS who learned calculus before entering. Both of them were the nicest, most humble people I knew.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 01:41:02 2013 No.5925026 >>5904225 >Listening to someone who has accomplished nothing give a lecture on how to succeed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 09:20:59 2013 No.5925559 >>5925026 He has accomplished more than you ever will. I highly doubt you will find and fix an error in general relativity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 09:43:59 2013 No.5925596 >>5918706 >Has never read the story about Dirac and Heisenberg on a boat heading to a conference in Japan

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:30:42 2013 No.5926565 >>5925596 I never heard of this story. Link?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:37:11 2013 No.5926573 >>5906151 I'd wager his mother owns this account

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:38:41 2013 No.5926576 10 days is long enough. Prune plz.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 19:43:40 2013 No.5926592 quantom mechancs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DUerSdSgG0

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 20:15:41 2013 No.5926657 >>5926576 It was a shitty obvious troll thread on the first day. Mods need to do their jobs. Or at least give us a janitor that actually uses /sci/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 20:18:40 2013 No.5926663 >>5926657 >Or at least give us a janitor that actually uses /sci/. please this

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 20:24:40 2013 No.5926684

>>5926657
>>5926663
>Or at least give us a janitor that actually uses /sci/.

You think this is a good thing, but what you're going to get is someone who has their own personal definition of what should be allowed (rules irrelevant) and will delete whatever doesn't fit. There will be less trolls but you'll lose a lot of legitimate posts. Learn from the experiences of other boards. It's better to just put up with some shitposting then getting moot to let one of his asslickers turn the board to shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 04:53:41 2013 No.5927432 >>5926592 Thank you for the educational science video.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 05:35:40 2013 No.5927488 "PwningEinstein" is not his actual Twitter account. Please stop being so fucking stupid, /sci/. It literally hurt to read this thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 05:38:10 2013 No.5927494 >>5922911 >I hate black people because they scare me Well he can't be that dumb if he's figured out blacks already.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 07:41:10 2013 No.5927630 >>5904173 you don't have to be a genius to know the word is spelled 'spelled', not spelt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 08:23:40 2013 No.5927659 Seems the ability to focus, do quantum mechanics and recite things like pi to the n-th digit isn't helping further humanity's causes. Seems like it's more of a freak-show than anything else.

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 08:29:28 2013 No.5927663

>>5904045
OP, I went to caltech

when I was a kid I imagined that there would be all these towering giants of intellectualism there

there were a few awesome professors that felt like peers, and a handful of students too

nevertheless .... the majority are just dumb. their parents put them in classes to prep for the SAT and otherwise forced them into the atmosphere

me on the other hand? i was born and raised 100 miles from the nearest university and ended up there because im a huge nerd that loves science. and you can tell who is who

the tl;dr is passion matters more than anything, you will end up on the top if you stick with something you love

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 09:18:26 2013 No.5927697 >>5927630 Hurr, what are regional differences?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:13:56 2013 No.5929227 >>5927697 Spelling should not be affected by regional differences.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 20:17:25 2013 No.5929238 >>5929227 >i love to shitpost to bump threads

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 22:22:27 2013 No.5929400 >>5929238 What are your thoughts on necromancy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 22:27:56 2013 No.5929409 >>5929227 Oh god, you're retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 17:48:38 2013 No.5930966 >>5929409 Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 05:47:39 2013 No.5932204 >>5929400 Necromancy is a subfield of pathology with many interesting open problems.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:24:39 2013 No.5933677 >>5932204 What are the open problems?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:56:40 2013 No.5934254 >>5904672 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_tn4qcSNw no there is definitely something wrong... if you think that is normal behavior then ya you might be autistic, or just socially inept...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:07:08 2013 No.5934279 >>5904144 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_tn4qcSNw I didn't make it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:19:08 2013 No.5934299 I really wish this wasn't some kind of troll meme.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:20:09 2013 No.5934301 >>5904045 Good God /sci/ it's almost been a month.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:23:40 2013 No.5934304 >>5904404 >Her parents, Ami and Mark Fitzgerald began homeschooling all of their three daughters early on because they were being bullied. made me sad for some reason. She's pretty qt too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:48:10 2013 No.5934354 >>5904144 I'd feel bad for him if I wasn't so jealous

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:54:41 2013 No.5934359 File: 49 KB, 413x413, laughter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5922872 >Assrape boy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 02:32:38 2013 No.5934394 File: 22 KB, 224x360, Ttao2006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Stop with the heresy, /sci/, let's worship a true god.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:41:09 2013 No.5934472 >>5904045 Don't consider a genius your enemy. They are on your team.

sage sage Tue Jul 30 03:47:09 2013 No.5934483

>come to /sci/ for science that pushes mankind to demi-god status
>see over 9,000 threads of intellectual envy over some self-important home schooled butthole

Hypothesis: half the people who believe themselves to be intellectuals on /sci/ are really just morons.

All evidence points to true in this case.

sage

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 03:55:09 2013 No.5934492 >>5925596 Very interested in this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:21:39 2013 No.5934528 >>5934492 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dirac+heisenberg+boat+japan

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:25:41 2013 No.5934535 >>5934483 You're clinically retarded if you couldn't figure that out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:34:39 2013 No.5934550 File: 58 KB, 400x680, 1375105991898.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The only thing intelligence brings us is mockery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 05:22:40 2013 No.5934599 >>5934535 I did, though. I guess I passed the test.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 07:24:39 2013 No.5934791 >>5934472 Science and math are competitive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 15:10:08 2013 No.5935478 >>5934472 You must be new to academia if you think anyone is on your team

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:56:39 2013 No.5936056 File: 21 KB, 400x301, a game of luck.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:36:39 2013 No.5936401 no doubt he's highly gifted, but based on videos and interviews, he's kind of a twat--probably because all the praise has inflated his ego

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:43:08 2013 No.5936413 >>5935478 >>5934791 THIS RIGHT HERE. you will get fucked over by some of your classmates, genius or not, they will try to take your ideas and screw you over at every chance.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:23:40 2013 No.5936482

>>5916855
>Be the opposite of this
>Dumb as fuck through primary/middle
>Average through high school
>Suddenly motivation to succeed
>Now heading into grad school for microbiology

I still think I'm dumb as shit. I can't get good grades to save my life. I just want to do well, so I put a lot of effort into my lab work. Publish early and publish often! Supervisors are willing to overlook mediocre grades if you've got your name on a few papers.
Not sure how it is in physics/ math, though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:31:39 2013 No.5936497 That poor kid could have been something if he hadn't gotten famous. Fame crushes young people. He'll amount to nothing, and it's all because his mother pushed him into the spotlight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:47:09 2013 No.5936542 >>5936413 I'd say most of them are trying to, especially in the very competitive environment where race to the top becomes push down towards the bottom. It's pretty sad too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:49:40 2013 No.5936546 HOLY SHIT WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL ALIVE

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 12:46:09 2013 No.5937529 >>5936542 This is wrong. Everyone in academia is friendly and cooperative. Nobody would ever steal another researcher's results.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 17:11:24 2013 No.5938046 >>5936546 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 17:32:53 2013 No.5938085 >>5938046 He is quoting me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 19:13:24 2013 No.5938296 >>5938085 And who are you quoting

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 07:19:55 2013 No.5939369 There are many hypergeniuses. Source: I am one.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:11:56 2013 No.5939416
File: 2.00 MB, 347x222, 1369379179101.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>ctrl-f Terry Tao
>two results
>mahnigga.jpg

Many hyper-geniuses are actually fairly modest and likeable people (Think Terry Tao and John von Neumann), either because they're naturally cool or because they're smart enough to realize that you don't make friends by being a cunt about it.

I kinda feel sorry for Jacob Barnett for that reason. No doubt he's smart. Very, very, smart, that is. But your mother turning you into a walking press release (most likely for her own satisfaction - look at the way she injects herself into so many of his photos) and everyone treating him like a god because of it will do him no favors at all - particularly in the maths field, where people like Terry Tao exist and probably don't find his confidence all that charming.

Time will tell what happens. He might come up with the next Green-Tao theorem, or he might be the next Langan. We'll see.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:27:26 2013 No.5939431 >>5939416 >von Neumann >likeable person Really? The guy who openly called non-jews "the goys" and essentially talked Feynman into moral nihilism is "likeable"?

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:37:55 2013 No.5939441

>>5939431
>The guy who openly called non-jews "the goys" and essentially talked Feynman into moral nihilism is "likeable"?
Yep.
And say what you like about his ethics; von Neumann did more for ethics (via formalizing utility) than the vast majority of philosophers have ever done, ever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:43:56 2013 No.5939446 File: 17 KB, 186x269, 1986_clinical_gallo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5937529 > Nobody would ever steal another researcher's results. Yeah. It's not like you can get a Nobel prize for doing so.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:47:57 2013 No.5939448 File: 240 KB, 700x700, yakub.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5939446 >implying 90% of modern scientists don't just copy the work of the ancient African scientist Yakub from 6000 BC get fucked cracka

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 19:20:55 2013 No.5940642 >>5939441 Ethics is not science.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 15:18:12 2013 No.5942325 >>5925559 you are retarded

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 15:34:42 2013 No.5942350 >>5940642 I guess you just found out the perfect explanation for why science doesn't have to obey the law: they're not science.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 17:23:54 2013 No.5942586 >>5942350 This makes no sense.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 19:06:57 2013 No.5942862 Why are STEM fedoras so autistic?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 15:03:33 2013 No.5944406 >>5942862 Because you are generalizing from anecdotal evidence.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 16:01:03 2013 No.5944496 >>5904144 >were you surprised that you won? >not really Alpha as fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 16:03:34 2013 No.5944504 >>5904225 >those comments

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 16:09:05 2013 No.5944517 >>5904165 Reminds me of this so much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX20Q2wmpkk

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 16:21:34 2013 No.5944530 >>5927494 >rationalizing views based on emotion rather than logic Low iq detected.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 16:26:35 2013 No.5944540 >>5927659 >seems like more of a freakshow than anything else For the most part it is.

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 17:23:03 2013 No.5944691

Every neuronal connection is cemented via the basis and frequency of usage.

When a child's brain is first forming (within the womb), what a mother eats and her own quality of health is going to have the most to do with how the baby's body and mind develop (even after it's been pushed out).

Anyhoo, back the first clause. Whatever your mind happens to be focused on (the most), is how the neurons of your own brain are going to habitually react and connect to one another. Now, there are an infinite number of ways in doing math. Some people start out by counting fingers and toes, others, like Jacob Barnett and that one savant guy, see it visually within their own minds.

The more energy being put towards solving ANY problem will account for how easily a problem is solved. You need x amount of force to move object y. If one is able to view a problem from multiple sensory perspectives (sixth sense being taken into account, which is, imo, intuition), then the amount of energy firing in the brain makes it easier to solve a problem. Of course, you have to also take into account the DISTANCE bioelectricity is travelling when considering efficiency. So like, prefrontal cortex being responsible for things like language and simulation and internal reasoning, being close to the pineal gland (lol) which is supposed to be (as in thought to be) the house of all things intuitive, pref. cortex also being close to areas of the brain which deal with language in the left hemisphere, learning to utilize all of these together will actually equate to a faster processing speed, depending on how a person uses their brain. Could talk about this for hours, but...gonna leave it at that. NEUROPLASTICITY, SON.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 07:53:36 2013 No.5945867 >>5908070 Pfft. Try integrating backwards son.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 14:33:05 2013 No.5946600 >>5945867 I don't know what that means. There is no inverse operation of integration.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 16:47:36 2013 No.5946743 >>5922872 T-thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 16:50:36 2013 No.5946748 >>5944530 >2013 >believing in iq

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 17:10:07 2013 No.5946792 >>5946600 I once heard Bessel functions could be reverse integrated, but I think my prof was yanking my chain.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 17:14:07 2013 No.5946799 >>5946600 Am I completely fucking retarded or are you just rusing me?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 17:17:06 2013 No.5946811 >>5946799 anti-integrals turn up in topos theory, but they aren't really very useful. pure math masturbatory abstract bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 17:22:36 2013 No.5946825 At least I don't have autism.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 17:29:24 2013 No.5946843 >>5944517 What in the FUCK was that

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 17:47:10 2013 No.5946881 File: 5 KB, 243x190, 1323301142194.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5904975 >nb4 Bach---who actually listens to Bach music? >>5905184 >Pachelbel > Bach

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 17:51:07 2013 No.5946894 >>5946881 i too raged I listen to and play bach. pachelbel is like bach for kiddies, especially his canon in D. i once volunteered in a special ed school, they played the canon to sooth the tards

Anonymous Sun Aug 4 18:02:36 2013 No.5946911

>>5906056
I'm actually kind of disappointed that he just uses "OMG U SUBSTITUTION! USE U AND V GUISE!" I mean... fuck man... he's not even like... fast or anything... it's not even special in any way.

Still, I'd fuck his mom. And i'm sure that's why she paraded him around like the Dalai Lama.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 20:32:52 2013 No.5947256 File: 32 KB, 491x358, laughing kuwabara and yusuke.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5944530 >calls people low IQ >whiteknights niggers you can't be serious

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 11:43:21 2013 No.5948266 >>5947256 Shush. Adults are talking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 18:21:34 2013 No.5949233 >>5946911 >And i'm sure that's why she paraded him around like the Dalai Lama. She paraded around the Dalai Lama?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 22:27:47 2013 No.5949647 >>5904165 i dont watch cnn but this gurl is nice, whats her name?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 22:42:47 2013 No.5949666 >>5904165 >americans in charge of pronouncing "r" SCAMBUDAY

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 23:30:17 2013 No.5949740 >mfw The kid says he can visualize 5 dimensions. This kid is so full of himself, so much potential going to waste.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 16:51:19 2013 No.5951007 >>5946825 Neither does he.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 7 16:38:23 2013 No.5953266 >>5949666 >SCAMBUDAY I'm gonna use this as the new BAZINGA.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 07:26:28 2013 No.5954665 >>5949740 Visualizing integer dimensions isn't hard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 07:27:17 2013 No.5954670 >>5949740 Visualizing integer dimensions is not hard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 07:30:17 2013 No.5954678 >>5904045 He has unusually large and old-looking hands for a kid of his age and size.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 07:32:17 2013 No.5954684 >>5954670 Indeed, I can prove it by induction. Imagine a 0-point dimensional space. Imagine one additional direction. Q.E.D.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 07:48:18 2013 No.5954713 >>5904045 What an excellent example of an overconfident idiot, whose goal is fame, not global progress. You won't do any good, almost everyone in the field is smarter, than you. Go engineering.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 8 07:52:18 2013 No.5954718 File: 6 KB, 237x213, .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5920411 EVEN THIS HE HAS A GIRLFRIEND!

Advanced search
Text to find
Subject [?]Search by post subject. Leave empty for any.
Username [?]Search for user name. Leave empty for any user name.
Tripcode [?]Search for tripcode. Leave empty for any.
Email [?]Search by email. Leave empty for any.
Filename [?]Search by image filename. Leave empty for any.
From Date [?]Enter what date to start searching from. Format is YYYY-MM-DD
To Date [?]Enter what date to start searching until. Format is YYYY-MM-DD
Image hash
Search in	All Posts OPs Only
Deleted posts	Show all posts Show only deleted posts Only show non-deleted posts
Internal posts	Show all posts Show only internal posts Show only archived posts
Order	New posts first Old posts first
Capcode	All Posts Only by Users Only by Mods Only by Admins Only by Developers
Results	Posts Threads
Action	[ Simple ]