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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2108209/Russian-entrepreneur-aims-transplant-human-mind-robot-body-10-years.html

How feasible is this /sci/?

>> No.5893454

Sounds like a project to steal grant money.

>> No.5893464

>>5893454
so it's all fake

>> No.5893529

>>5893406
It's theoretically possible, but I doubt we'll see it within 10 years.

>> No.5893544

We might be able to transplant entire heads soon so it doesnt seem impossible in a 10 year time frame. Most of the work will be making a body that has life support for a brain without carrying around an entire hospital worth of equipment.

>> No.5893551

>>5893544
There's also the problem of attaching enough stuff to the brain that it can continue having meaningful contact with the outside world. This should be possible- there are already (really shitty quality) prosthetics that can replace eyes and ears by connecting directly to the nerves, and there's some progress on controlling motors and robot arms and stuff with brain signals- but it's also going to be a monumental problem.

>> No.5893567

We've got enough storage to do it already, the problem is the specifics of "mind". We're probably close enough that we could duplicate most of the physical parameters, but we don't have a good enough grasp for what goes where yet, nor are we really capable of saying that our logic gates are synonymous with how the brain sorts it's system.

The chemical signals and electrical values to calculate a functional brain would still likely be well beyond our capability. Our allegories for talking about the brain and thoughts are very much over simplified.

With a 10 year time-frame, I'd say it would look very much like the Sim City AI fiasco, but played on a c64.

>> No.5893634

>>5893567
The 10-year timeframe is just for putting a meat brain in a robotic body. That's a lot more feasible, though still out there, and there's no chance that an organization with monetary and ethical constraints could pull it off in only 10 years. A particularly corrupt major government could probably manage something a bit better than a Dalek, but I don't think anybody but maybe the most fanatical of Singularitarians seriously thinks that we could manage brain uploading in a mere decade.

>> No.5893642

>>5893544
who would volunteer for this?

Would they just get death row inmates to do it?

>> No.5893644

>>5893406
Transplanting a living brain into a machine body is definitely possible, but it'd be incredibly difficult- the life-support to keep a brain running through purely mechanical means is very hard, and would likely be very bulky. Likewise, we're VERY bad at substituting robotic limbs and senses for biological ones; we can do it, but with very shitty quality.

Within 10 years, assuming they had no ethical or monetary constraints? A clumsy half-blind Dalek on life support would be about as good as you could get. Still counts as a human mind in a robot body, though.

Mind uploading, however, is so far off that we're not even sure if it's a thing that can be meaningfully discussed.

>> No.5893651

>>It will have a perfect brain-machine interface to allow control and a human brain life support system so the brain can survive outside the body.

Given that current brain machine interfaces don't work very well, they nectrotize brain tissue, and that we can't keep organs alive outside the body for extended periods of time, not very feasible.

>> No.5893657

>>5893642
maybe quadriplegics or people with multiple organ failure.
Dont know where they would get the body from though.

>> No.5893728

>Hey guys! Let's build Daleks!
Oh this sounds like a fucking brilliant plan.

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>>5893642
>Stephen Hawking volunteers
>gets a new body
>abandons physics research and spends the next twenty years drifting across continents constantly drinking, doing drugs, and fucking strange women.

>> No.5893746

>>5893730
>I don't think the new robot / brain will be able to get pleasure physically like it used too without artificial drug administration, whenever you want to feel good youll just have to administer yourself some drugs directly to your brain

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5893750

Finally! Heads in jars!

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>>5893642

>> No.5893795

>>5893544

Human cloning

>> No.5893799

>>5893634
>an organization with monetary and ethical constraints could pull it off in only 10 years

Russian government has a steady supply of monetary resources and they have less retarded ethical constraints.

>> No.5893820

>>5893406
>Itskov, a 31-year-old media entrepreneur, says that he aims to transplant a human brain into a robot body within 10 years
>Media entrepreneur

Yeah, no.

>> No.5894685

>>5893644
It seems to me that the key to this would be lab-grown organs. If the robot body can house a brain, I don't see why it couldn't house a liver as well.