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/sci/, What is the most important thing that science ever taught you?

>> No.5848590

Nothing, I just got a degree to get a job.

>> No.5848591

To not stick my penis in a blender

>> No.5848596

research gets no respect in society
alternately, correlation alone does not imply causation

>> No.5848594

>>5848591
Fascinating.

Figured /sci/ could do something with such an open question..

>> No.5848600

science taught me the value of knowing uncertainty. It's the best mathematical - and common sense - tool to have while trying to understand the world.

>> No.5848614

>>5848600
>>5848596
Both good things.

I'm searching /sci/ for some wisdom.

>> No.5848623

Concepts of human health and the uncertainty and fascinating nature of the universe

>> No.5848627

>>5848623
Anything come to mind on the subject?

>> No.5848631

>>5848591
How many times did you need to repeat the experiment to come to a conclusion and build a standard model?

>> No.5848635

>>5848627
Mostly my own cognitive fascination with the evolution of intelligent life forms. I mean if you study prebiotic chemistry its absolutely mindblowing, how simple biomolecules that via comets hit earth, and how proteins and nucleic acids formed in a cell, basically the creation of life and how that unintelligent life translated into the intelligence homosapiens display. It's remarkable isn't it? Chemistry can create life, order comes from disorder

>> No.5848639

Calculating probability is quite entertaining.

>> No.5848642

>>5848635
>order comes from disorder

Interesting thought.

>>5848639
What makes it entertaining?

>> No.5848644

To never blindly trust anything.
The more outrageous the thing I'm told, the more I will investigate the sources.

And never blindly do anything, especially if I am unfamiliar with what is to be done and if it's something stemming from tradition.
Instead of doing something 'because', I will seek to find out WHY it should be done and if it can be done more efficiently.

>> No.5848652

>>5848644
Probably the most tactful way to live.

I'm an anarchist and extremely skeptical of everything. Especially government and religion. I focus purely on thought from the individual, using his eyes (not his ideals or faith) to form conclusions. This thread is an example.

>> No.5848658

>>5848644

but you're blindly trusting that not blindly trusting anything is better than blindly trusting

good job you "PI"

>> No.5848654

>>5848586
how beautiful the world is.

>> No.5848655

that no matter how you get up the hill, it still uses the same energy.

>> No.5848659

Don't fuck with heavy shit.

>> No.5848666

>>5848654
I started to notice once I left the haze of depression.

>>5848655
Gravity or yours?

>>5848659
Wise indeed. You have something fall on you?

>> No.5848671

>>5848666
doesnt matter i suppose, just something i learned in highschool physics that stuck with me. that no matter if you climb straight up or take a long winding slope up, still the same energy is expended to move your mass up.

>> No.5848674

>>5848671
Interesting.

Knew you guys would have some interesting ideas, gut feeling that /sci/ was the time and the place for tonight.

>> No.5848690

>>5848631
Six

>> No.5848710

I used to learn science when I was young so I could try to impress people, and give myself a false sense of superiority over others. I was actually decent at biology, though. It ended up somewhat useful though, I use it to disprove incorrect beliefs my father (believes in classic chinese philosophy about the body). I started off with biomedical engineering, and realized it wasn't for me two years in. I'm a computer scientist now, and although it has science in the name, all I see is coding.

>> No.5848712

>>5848644
Same things here. I also learned to be more open to other point of view.

>> No.5848735

>>5848671
So if some one sprinted up a hill it takes the same amount of energy as some one leisurely walking it?

>> No.5848736

>>5848586
>the most important thing that science ever taught you
people are batshit fucking insane

>> No.5848779

>>5848590

You are the worst fucking person ever.

If this was 50 years ago, would you have even gone to college?

>> No.5849024

>>5848586
Make meth to support my family and occasionally some ricin when it is needed

>> No.5849048

>>5848735

It's not that simple. Getting up the hill will take at LEAST the amount of energy equal the amount of potential energy difference - but sprinting uses more energy in the rapid and exaggerated movement of limbs than casually walking does.

>> No.5849057

>>5848586

What exactly is he doing?

Things science tought me:
Listen to people when they are talking.
Don't be set on something in such a way that you would ignore obvious evidence.
Correlation does not imply causation.
Always be critical to the sources or claims you read/hear.

Generally it tought me not to be stupid, and made me open my eyes to how stupid a lot of people are.

>> No.5849068

I've learned that public opinion and TV isn't worth shit. People are retarded. Like, for real.

>> No.5849072

>>5848652
>I'm an anarchist.
Good to hear. Just out of curiosity, you are a real anarchist, right, and not some retarded murrican anarchocapitalist?
Because you can't really use the words an-arkhos (without rulers) to describe an ideology in which people can rule over one another due to the naturally skewed distribution of money, which directely causes a skewed distribution of power.

>> No.5849094

The most important thing that science has taught me so far has been, the difficulty of actually knowing something and not being fooled by other individuals when it benefits them or not falling prey to pseudo scientific methods of thought, it is the rigorous and skeptical outlook that one must take on ones own work and the work of peers that has really changed my world view on what truth can actually be thought to be.

>> No.5849101

>>5849057
>What exactly is he doing?
Looks like a lumberjack's candle. A nordic tradition.

Can be used for cooking, though today it's usually mostly ornamental.

>> No.5849110

>>5849101

Oh, so its basicly a fire wich reduces the ammount of wood spent.

We do something simmilar, but i tought it was something more behind it. We drill holes in logs, 1 from top down, and one from the side, and then light a fire inside it. Same principle but you need power tools i guess.

>> No.5849112

>>5849110
The traditional LC is made by making a crosscut and then chiseling the center a bit larger. These days people make the crosscut and drill through, because the fire burns faster and they're rarely used for cooking so the larger flames are a pro rather than a con.

>> No.5849114

>>5849112

The more you know.

Thanks.

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>>5848586
Science thought how to produce and use electricity to make computers and 4chan.

Science didn't really improve social thought. But the method of trying technical solutions to see if they are worth did revolutionize the world. Nowadays, any bum lives over 40 years old, the longest hard working people used to live 200 years ago.
We have global communications to anyone that has a job. Encyclopedias, music, art, cinema, movies, news... Its all very accessible compared to even 20 years ago. That is all because of those technical advances caused by the method of scientific skepticism based on speculative phylosophy.

>> No.5849130

1) Correlation always implies causation.
2) The absorption of drugs in the bloodstream can be accurately modeled with a simple exponential decay curve.
3) Borrow and spend is actually a sustainable economic policy.
4) Machinery can be safely operated at 100% capacity for long durations.

>> No.5849141

>>5849130
>3) Borrow and spend is actually a sustainable economic policy.
Libtardarian detected. Shoo to /pol/ with you.

>> No.5849146

>>5849141
Prove him wrong.
Macroeconomics is bad science, which is what his list is about.

>> No.5849153

is he a retard? correlation does not always prove causation

>> No.5849154

>>5849146
>Prove him wrong.
I can't believe you're on /sci/ right now. He has to disprove the consensus and prove his thesis, not the consensus the fringe minority view. That's basic scientific method.

>> No.5849157

How little I actually know and how stupid I really am

>> No.5849155

>>5848586
That the atoms in muh body came from the stars.

>> No.5849158

>>5848586
Anything ppl believe is wrong. Because we cannot know truth. Only models.

>> No.5849160

To never trust anybody and always watch your back

>> No.5849453

how to satisfy a woman with my manpuss

>> No.5850135

>>5849024
top lel

>> No.5850162

Never trust a physicist.

>> No.5850175

Curry-Niggers smell like shit.

99.99% of Gooks are ugly.

Being good-looking with average grades is the same as being ugly with high grades.

>> No.5850178

>>5848635
Actually, order comes from creating more disorder.

>> No.5850190

There is no god.

>> No.5850199

<span class="math">
S[q]=\int_a^b L(q(t),q'(t),t) dt[/spoiler]

>> No.5850230

<span class="math">
Ax=b \Leftrightarrow rank\ A = rank\ A|b
[/spoiler]

>> No.5850235

At the end of the day, everyone is just an amorphous blob of some interesting molecules.

>> No.5850247

>>5848642
Not him, but figuring out the probability of something happening can be rather fun.

>> No.5850257

>>5850230

I found Linear Algebra I to be boring for some reason, even though I did good

>> No.5850329

Can we write the boundy integral as a an integral over an area?
<span class="math">
\oint_C \overrightarrow{V} \overrightarrow{ds} = \int_A \overrightarrow{F} \overrightarrow{dA}
[/spoiler]

If we imagine the boundry integral as the sum of the boundry integrals over infintesimal small areas dA can write
<span class="math">
\oint_C \overrightarrow{V} \overrightarrow{ds}
[/spoiler]
as
<span class="math">
\oint_\partial \overrightarrow{V} \overrightarrow{ds} = \sum \lim_{dC_i \rightarrow \infty} \oint_{d C_i} \overrightarrow{V} \overrightarrow{ds}
[/spoiler]

Now if we look a the boundry integral over an infinitesimal area in the xy-plane we see that
<span class="math">
\oint_\partial \overrightarrow{V} \overrightarrow{ds} = V_x (y) dx + V_y(x+dx) - V_x(y+dy) dx - V_y(x)dy
[/spoiler]
and after tayloring:
<span class="math">
= [ \frac{\partial V_y}{\partial x}-\frac{\partial V_x}{\partial y}] dxdy = (F_V)_z dA
[/spoiler]

Such that considering z follows:
<span class="math">
\overrightarrow{F}_V = rot \overrightarrow{V}
<span class="math">

And concluding

\oint_C \overrightarrow{V} \overrightarrow{ds} = \int_A (rot \overrightarrow{V}) \overrightarrow{dA}
[/spoiler][/spoiler]

>> No.5850339

>>5850257
I'm the exact opposite. I'm shit at it but kind of in love with it.

>> No.5850345

>>5850339

what are you struggling with?

If it's solving systems of linear equation, you're in for a rough dicking since that's the gist of linear, in the same way the limit notion/derivative is integral (hurr durr) to calc I

that said, if you're struggling with the lines/points/planes or the complex plane, then revise a bit, but you should be fine in the long run

>> No.5850351

>>5850345
Not really struggeling with anything. It's just that proofs don't come as easilty to me as they do in calc (or solutions in physics)

>> No.5850358

>>5850329
sorry... but is thisconsidered ground breaking stuff? Whats the year on this?

>> No.5850359

>>5850351

right. and yeah, I agree, they aren't as clear as in calc 1

I guess what made me go ecstatic about it was when we were introduced to markov matrices and how they could be used to predict long-run developpements of systems. That was really neat and interesting

>> No.5850371

>>5850358
It's not groundbreaking.

It's the stokes theorem (or a sketch of a proof/derivation of it). Really usefull and stuff.

>> No.5850383

Dedication > Talent