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Hey /sci/, I never learned how to study properly in school, and college has been an uphill battle because of it.

Any and all help will be appreciated.

TL;DR How do I into studying?

>> No.5832531
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5832531

The key is to 'study' by thoroughly and completely doing your assignments/quizzes/other work during the span of the course, so you don't have to be spending large sums of time learning things at the last minute.

>> No.5832534

studying properly?

fuck that.

>the capacity of the brain to store information in short term memory is scientifically proven to be impossible to increase

why not test your intelligence by cramming all the information you can right before the exam?

if you do well on your exams, congrats! your brain is superior to others

if you don't do well, you just need to study throughout the semester

>> No.5832542

>>5832531
this. just make sure not to leave your work/learning/studying of the tested concept till the day before
the exam and youll be fine.

>> No.5832546

>>5832534
Intelligence is equal to memory now?

>> No.5832558

>>5832546
>the only aspect of the brain that cannot be trained or improved
>not intelligence
>whut

>> No.5832565

>>5832526
OP go fuck yourself, you fucking troll
>sage goes in all fields

>> No.5832568

>>5832558
I've seen monkeys who can memorize tons of text and can't understand simple algebra. You're really wrong my friend.

>> No.5832579

>>5832568
I've seen human who can prove complex abstract algebra theorems but can't remember 9 words in 2 seconds.
Short term memory and working memory matter.

>> No.5832590

>>5832579
They do matter but you can't really say that memory is equal to intelligence.

>> No.5832599 [DELETED] 

>>5832590
Why not?
What matters are (0) the ability to link and relate concepts (which is what you do by ``thinking''), (1) how much knowledge you have, (2) how well they are structured in your mind (how one piece of knowledge connected to some other pieces, or how well you have mastered what you learned) and (3) how much of them can you how in your mind to work with at a time.
(1) is your good old long term memory, (2) mostly depends on how you study. Only (0) and (3) is something you can't do anything about.

>> No.5832603

>>5832590
Why not?
What matters are (0) the ability to link and relate concepts (which is what you do by ``thinking''), (1) how much knowledge you have, (2) how well they are structured in your mind (how one piece of knowledge connected to some other pieces, or how well you have mastered what you learned) and (3) how much of them you can hold in your mind to work with at a time.
(1) is your good old long term memory, (2) mostly depends on how you study. Only (0) and (3) is something you can't do anything about.

>> No.5832611

>>5832603
>>5832599
>(0) the ability to link and relate concepts (which is what you do by ``thinking'')
That has almost nothing to do with short term memory.

>> No.5832614

>>5832611
your right, all it has to do with is recognizing patterns and relations of other concepts which you can learn from books and can thus inscribe to your long term memory.

you come across new material and you end up relating them based on a previous connection you learned from a prior example.

(3) how much of them you can hold in your mind to work with at a time

is the only thing you cannot improve, thus it is the highest form of pure intelligence

>> No.5832616

>>5832611
Yeah, but you can't prove that your ``brain circuit'' is faster than your plebian peers. But short term and working memory, on the other hand...

>> No.5832619

>>5832616
Actually you can. It's called IQ test.

>> No.5832621

>>5832619
IQ tests are just a measure of how good you are at taking IQ tests.

Anyone can study pattern problems and with enough studying, master IQ tests.

But this doesn't make them more intelligent.

>> No.5832628

I presume you're talking about math, so just do the damn problems sets. If you still don't understand it, do extra problems from the book. There are also many different problems on the internet. It's not like history where you actually need to memorize all that much.

Most math can be drawn from shit you already know so don't spend that much time memorizing things as long as you understand the theory, you'll do alright.

>> No.5832634

>>5832614
I don't really think memory is a form of intelligence. I might be wrong I might be not. I don't care, but just like my previous post >>5832568 said, you can't call a memory drone intelligent because you can't do anything with just memory. If you can memorize tons of shit but can't understand them, then you're not intelligent.

>> No.5832636

>>5832634
But working memory is _not_ about memorizing. It is about retrieving and using.

>> No.5832652

>>5832634
And what do you think ``understanding'' is? It's just, in the most fundamental level, how knowledge - from very primitive and concrete to highly abstract- related to each other[1]. That has many thing to do with how your long term memory works.

Thinking? It's just how you query the related knowledge maybe in novel ways, retrieve them and put them in your working memory, then repeat, until you derive some acceptable solution[2]. The better your working memory is, the more can you hold in your mind.
________
[1]: see various papers of Marvin Minsky. Yes, the one who was the advisor of The Sussman himself.
[2]: see Hofstadter's essay on this matter at http://prelectur.stanford.edu/lecturers/hofstadter/analogy.html

>> No.5832656

>>5832652
>>5832636
Are we still talking about short term memory?

>> No.5832658

>>5832656
What? I don't remember... Who are you?

>> No.5832660

>>5832658
I don't know man, what is this thread about again?

>> No.5832663

>>5832658

OP here, I am not >>5832656

To respond to: >>5832634

"Understanding" is pretty much the memorization of explanation. To that effect, yes, a memory drone is "intelligent" because he can memorize more "understandings" on a shorter time-scale than someone else.

>> No.5832666

>memory= intelligence
lol

>> No.5832678

I swear to god, half the threads on this shit board get so derailed, this one was just about fucking study habits and all you can do is talk about quibbles about what "intelligence" really is, as if you even have it.

>> No.5832679

>>5832666
Keep telling yourself that while the memoryfags owning you in college.

>> No.5832681

>>5832678
pls don't misuse the sage functionality as a downvote.
Thank you.

>> No.5832683

>>5832666
>>5832636
>>5832634
>>5832611
>>5832590
>>5832546

everyone i've EVER met who says that memory =/ intelligence has the hugest amount of sour grapes imagineable.

They spend hours trying to "understand" a simple concept and then feel great pride and superiority to the so-called "memory fags" while they are beaten out in grades.

Then they become the same faggots who say things like "grades =/ intelligence" and then use it as a crutch for their lack of motivation.

>> No.5832684

>>5832679
Enjoy doing nothing with your life while you learn about all the people who have.

>> No.5832686 [DELETED] 

I have this nursing essay related to law and ethics in nursing. Its a case study and I dont know how to start it. Would you write this in first or third person?

>At 1030 hours Mrs Davis becomes agitated and begins to wander around the Respite Centre. The Registered Nurse in charge of the shift, RN Jolie, tells you to restrain Mrs Davis in her chair with a lap restraint. You are not certain that Mrs Davis needs to be restrained and you question RN Jolie’s order. RN Jolie becomes annoyed at your question and tries to restrain Mrs Davis herself.......
>....Mrs Davis dies in hospital two days later. The Coroner has been notified by the hospital and her death is to be investigated by the Coroner’s Court.
>When you hear about what is to happen following Mrs Davis’ death you are unsure and become worried about what you should do now.

Your response should be written in an essay format with the above legal and ethical issues discussed under headings or as a free-flowing essay. These issues don’t need to be discussed in the order listed and can be done in a way that is relevant to the Case Study. For example you may begin your essay discussing the requirements for a valid consent and how Mrs Davis meets these before moving on to say how this would then influence the practice of restraint before going on to the other issues in the Case Study.

>> No.5832689

>>5832684
> learn about all the people who have
But that's not ''nothing to do with your life''.

>> No.5832694

>>5832684
>better memory leads to an easier time getting good grades
>good grades = better college
>better college = better connections
>better college = better opportunities for employment and success
>easier time getting good grades = more time available to spend cultivating connections and other hobbies

enjoy doing nothing with my life?

you are sorely mistaken my delusional (and probably bitter) anon

>> No.5832695

>>5832689
There are those who know greatness and others who experience greatness.

>> No.5832696

>>5832695
Standing there learning nothing is not greatness, Anonymous-kun.

>> No.5832697

>>5832695
for those who wish to achieve greatness...

the odds are heavily stacked towards people who have better memory

>> No.5832700

>>5832697
Double sided blade. Memory can easily become a burden against discovering new things.

>> No.5832702

>>5832700
Open-mindedness is independent from good memory. You can have terrible memory AND be a close minded faggot.

>> No.5832707

>>5832702
prove it

>> No.5832709

>>5832707
Well, >>5832707.
Checkmate.

>> No.5832713

>>5832709
I hope I made you laugh, and i hope you realize that were both right.

>> No.5832717

>>5832713
So you have good memory and open-mindedness AND you have bad memory with close-mindedness at the same time?

>> No.5832719

>>5832717
I don't know about him, but I have good memory with close-mindedness and bad memory with open-mindedness at the same time.

>> No.5832728

>>5832717
No, you're not even close.

>> No.5832740

>>5832728
I know.
If my memory were good, I'd be a closeminded faggot.
If my memory were bad, I'd still be a closeminded faggot.
And they are both right.

>> No.5832756

>>5832531
I did this and got one of the best results in my year.

>> No.5832777

>>5832534
>>5832683
You're so full of shit. My short-term memory is enough to memorise pages of formulae and bookwork in the span of the day, but I can't possibly get anywhere in the exam without having the skills to apply it. Your incredibly simplistic view of academics is reminiscent of what I might have thought in high school when most exams were still essentially a memory test.

>> No.5832799

>>5832777
> short-term memory
> a span of a day
top lel

>> No.5832804

>>5832777
They are probably majoring in shit like History so they think they can have good grades just by memorizing shit. What a bunch of sad bastards.

>> No.5832805

>>5832799
I'm pretty sure it was assumed that was the 'short term' in these posts, otherwise why would 'cramming' be mentioned. You don't cram in a space of a few minutes/hours whatever.

>> No.5832809

>>5832805
The problem is that when you have a day you can actually reread some concepts and that's not short term memory.

>> No.5832815

>>5832809
Then what's the point? Very few people remember everything they read over a 24 hour period, and on some exams the smallest of details can fuck you over. So unless you have a perfect photographic memory then you are essentially resigning yourself to second best.

>> No.5832817

>>5832815
If you just read everything without re-reading that is.

>> No.5832824

>>5832815
You looked at it once and you memorized it. I can't do it, well I can do it when it comes to formulas or series but I can't learn a name unless I repeat it thousands of times. Of course, I have autism.

>> No.5832830

>>5832824
Anyway, surely when you read something you are re-reading it many times in your subconscious? It seems to me like this logic about short-term memory leads nowhere.

>> No.5832842

>>5832830
That's not re-reading, though.

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>>5832526
Try to explain it to yourself, this will enforce your brain to understand and the core of the subject.

Works best for me. This is my secret being top of my class in the college.

>> No.5833439

>>5832526

I've found that either teaching someone the topic is helpful- speaking reinforces learning.

Alternatively, write it all out. Everything that you find difficult. Ignore the stuff you can remember.

>> No.5833486

>>5832603

because by blindly memorizing shit you wont be able to use it in non-casual ways, people who through fully understand the basic concepts are able to use them even when they're must be used in unusual environment.

>> No.5833493
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5833493

What was that? Can't into study?

Let the gods of the physical world lend you a hand

Pic related

>>you're all jelly

>>my response to asians

>> No.5833496

>>5832697

lol wtf.. what age are you living in. we dont need memory after google was inveted.

google is my short term memory.

if you really want to use memory properly then you not only have to remember it long term. but your brain must have adapted/wired circuits that is designed for special concepts and way of thinking