What's your favorite Dawkin's book?

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Anonymous Sun Jun 9 05:39:04 2013 No.5821898 [DELETED]

What's your favorite Dawkin's book?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 05:40:04 2013 No.5821899 I'm not so sure that picture applies to you

Anonymous Sun Jun 9 05:47:18 2013 No.5821902

"The Selfish Gene", obviously.

I'm graduating in Finance & Banking and even though I have never been interested in the subject of biology, I found "The Selfish Gene" very informative. That might be because I'm a layman, though.

Got any more of those fake quotes pics? Tyson's were kinda bad, but that one really made me laugh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 06:30:38 2013 No.5821932 I've only read the greatest show on earth and I thought it was fantastic. Downloaded unweaving the rainbow cause it seems interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 18:00:49 2013 No.5823171 Did he write any science book at all or is he only ever talking about religion?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:32:03 2013 No.5823367 the one about atheism and biology

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 19:34:19 2013 No.5823370 >>5823367 The Wizard of Oz?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 21:48:48 2013 No.5823588 >>5821902 it's not a fake quote. MIND=BLOWN

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 21:51:19 2013 No.5823590 Aside from the "Self Gene", which really everyone should read, I really liked the "Extended Phenotype". It's what gave me yet another perspective on the gene-centered evolution.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 22:30:49 2013 No.5823654 I only read the selfish gene

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 23:25:48 2013 No.5823746 >>5821898 i thought he was wearing make up in that photo from the thumbnail.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 9 23:41:49 2013 No.5823793 >>5821898 Obviously, his best work to date is "Pinch my nipples and call me Susan; how being pretentious bitch invalidates the 'rationalist' movement." It sums up his life's work perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 00:32:34 2013 No.5823871 >>5823699 Is that the one with the travel through past life on earth? I've wanted to read it for a while.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 02:12:34 2013 No.5824013 >>5823370 I think so.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 17:39:14 2013 No.5825338 >>5823367 I liked that one too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:11:27 2013 No.5825403 But there's only 1 brain in our body.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:12:58 2013 No.5825407 The God Delusion

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:14:58 2013 No.5825410 None of them, since I dono't agree with militant atheism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:19:58 2013 No.5825420 File: 46 KB, 310x386, tahdah.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5825410 erm, 'militant'? whats so militant about it? dawkins is peaceful as fuck, he just debates rationally and is damn good at it, IMO.

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:25:28 2013 No.5825426

>>5825420

'Militant,' in this case, is the complete dismissal of the possibility of any influence aside from pure science or mathematics. I don't believe a good scientist can exist without a reasonable doubt of things which have not been observed one way or another as being true or untrue (an agnostic viewpoint, not necessarily 'religious' agnosticism).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:27:42 2013 No.5825430 >>5825426 If you want to believe in magic and fairy tales, you are free to do so -- on >>>/x/. Here on /sci/ we embrace rationality. Rationality includes applying Hitchens' razor to obvious nonsense claims.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:29:28 2013 No.5825435 >>5825403 our stomach and our gut have so much nerve cells on their own, that some scientists think of it as a second brain

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:32:30 2013 No.5825442 Sorry ladies and gents, but despite your claims, Dawkins is an idiot. He really seems to know fuck all about religion, and his attempts to disprove faith with science are only amusing idiocy.

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:34:28 2013 No.5825447

>>5821898
Hey, hey OP, guess what?
Atheism is an idealogy moulded by the majority of its advocates with the specific purpose of attempting to render invalid through science, a belief system which does not rest upon science in its foundations. It targets religion in general, not just religious believers without the sense to separate science and faith, and tells them that they are wrong, for having personal beliefs which do not agree with Atheistic principles. Atheism, dear friends, is a hate group. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not opposing the idea of not believing in a god. With the list I've seen I've not chosen one yet. On the other hand, attempting to absolutely disprove an existence on the foundations which it is not founded and existing on, is a fool's game. Your religion, is whatever you choose to have faith in. Whatever your thoughts of hope and desire go out to, is the object of your worship. Organised Atheism chooses to discriminate against all those who would not have faith in the same place it chooses to place its own faith. Organised Atheism is an Organised Religion. In a beautifully born idea to give place to those who do not place their faith in that which requires faith, it has been corrupted by a childish desire to lash out at a whole group of people, for the sins of but a few. Atheism, after its success in freeing itself from the perceived demon which bound it, has become an echo of a different shade of the very same demon, in its every attempt to slay it. It has become everything it sought to defeat, and in this action has failed in all its goals and betrayed its founders. It claims that facts discovered by its perceived enemies are facts which actually support it, and that these same enemies are in reality its friends.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:35:43 2013 No.5825451 >>5825447 TL;DR Militant Atheism is a dickhead philosophy.

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:40:12 2013 No.5825458

>>5825426
I happen to be atheist myself, although I try to keep a "reasonable" - that is, very small but nonzero- doubt that I might be wrong.

That said, I dislike militant atheists very strongly - more, actually, than I dislike fundamentalist Christfags.

>Militant christfags
>GOD LOVES YOU AND HEAVEN AWAITS YOU IF YOU LISTEN TO ME! CONFESS! HERE, LET ME PESTER YOU ABOUT IT FOR HOURS!

>Militant atheists
>YOUR LIFE IS MEANINGLESS AND NOTHING AWAITS YOU REGARDLESS OF IF YOU LISTEN TO ME OR NOT! CONFESS! HERE, LET ME PESTER YOU ABOUT IT FOR HOURS!

Despite (IMO) the atheists being much closer or possibly directly on the truth, they're a lot more annoying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:44:12 2013 No.5825471 >>5825458 >How to do atheism right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 18:50:13 2013 No.5825479 My favorite book by Dawkins is the blank defect from the printing presses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 19:09:58 2013 No.5825518 >>5825447 >atheism is an ideology Stopped reading there

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 19:17:27 2013 No.5825539 >>5825426 If you mean that we should allow religious ignorance to dictate our laws and politics, I'm fundamentally opposed to that. But you personally can believe whatever crazy shit you want. Just don't pretend that anyone else should.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 19:20:12 2013 No.5825547 >>5825430 >magic and fairy tales >we embrace rationality >Hitchens' razor Oh god this is too much. Please fuck off back to your pop sci documentaries.

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 19:20:27 2013 No.5825548

>>5825458

I've never told anyone that their life is meaningless, and I don't even understand the argument that life is meaningless without god, nor do I want anyone to 'confess'. The only problem I have is when people try and use their irrational beliefs to justify things in the real world. Then we have a problem.

And people like you are part of it. These people are trying to impose on us a philosophy that despises humanity and worships death.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 19:21:12 2013 No.5825552 >>5825442 >citation needed

Anonymous Mon Jun 10 19:30:57 2013 No.5825587

>>5825447

>atheism is an ideology

FTFY. And no it isn't. It's a rejection of the claim that god exists (theism) thus a-theism (the absence of theism). It also doesn't fundamentally involve claiming that god doesn't exist.

>attempting to render religion invalid through science

I presume is what you meant. And no it isn't Science is science is science. Neither atheism or science make any claims or assertions about religion. Scientific discoveries sometimes have the side effect of invalidating existing religious explanations for things, that I will admit. But science and atheism have never been undertaken with the undermining of religion as an objective.

>atheistic principles

There are no atheistic principles. Apart from not accepting the claims of theism.

>atheism is a hate group

Atheism isn't any kind of group. There are people who tend to be atheists, such as most objectivists and some libertarians, with whom I couldn't be more diametrically opposed apart from that one issue.

>absolutely disprove god

Atheism is not in any way trying to disprove god. I don't know if god exists. I do know I've not been convinced by any of the explanations I've heard thus far, and therefore it's better to assume no gods exist.

>whatever your thoughts of hope and desire go out to, is the object of your worship

That isn't what worship is. Worship is the veneration of an entity with some object benefit in mind as an end result of the veneration.

The rest of your comment is based on flawed assertion about what atheism is and is therefore invalid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 19:31:57 2013 No.5825592 >>5825548 nowthat'swhaticalledgy.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 10 19:37:12 2013 No.5825602 >>5825592 Very intelligent response. How was it edgy, exactly?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 02:35:59 2013 No.5826284 >>5825442 Why are you so upset? Did he disprove your invisible sky daddy with facts and logic?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 04:47:28 2013 No.5826452 File: 5 KB, 183x232, 1368905288942.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5826284 His levels of buttmad are far in excess of normal parameters

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 04:58:28 2013 No.5826466 >>5825451 >MUH STATUS QUO

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:02:27 2013 No.5826477 File: 118 KB, 1127x914, sj0IInV.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't read Dawkings ... only Hitchens.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:11:58 2013 No.5826485 >2013 >needing to spend money on a book to help you confirm your /r/atheism >not being able to sort out simplistic bullshit on your own Sure is untermensch in here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:12:28 2013 No.5826486 >>5826477 >I am enlightened by my own intelligence Jesus christ the hubris. That's one of the most inane things I've read in a long time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:14:28 2013 No.5826491 >>5826486 What else do you ultimately get enlightened by? I disagreed with Hitchens about a lot of things but I don't see the problem with that statement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:15:43 2013 No.5826493 >>5826477 Is that quote a /sci/ meme as well? I don't come on this board as often as I should.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:31:12 2013 No.5826509

>>5826491
Why be euphoric over such an inconsequential self discovery? Is his relief at realizing his own enlightenment being the product of his reasoning skills rather than some religious deity really that mindblowing? He's just making a show of it, nothing more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:33:12 2013 No.5826510 >>5826509 No, i just ran out of stached people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:35:57 2013 No.5826513 >>5826509 I understand that. At the same time, aren't you pretty consistently relieved that all the evidence seems to indicate there is no god, and especially not the sadistic, evil, random, incompetent god of the bible?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:37:12 2013 No.5826515 >>5826513 Very

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:51:14 2013 No.5826534 >>5826513 Why worry about it? More importantly, what type of atheist does?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 05:56:43 2013 No.5826538 >>5826534 I'm not worried about it, but it's still comforting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:29:13 2013 No.5827647 >>5825458 >I happen to be atheist myself, hahahaha jesus christ, what is this, classical amateur hour

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:32:13 2013 No.5827656

>>5826491
>
Why does he feel the need to bring a god into it, the pretentious dickhead? What a shit quote, I don't walk around saying " I' m absolutely thrilled, but not because of that overflowing garbage can over there, simply my own intelligence"

It's telling he has a beard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:33:00 2013 No.5827660 >>5827656 Because when you're nothing you want to be something, and when you're something you're just living the life. Why not start at 0?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:34:29 2013 No.5827662 For some reason this thread has me in hysterics, especially that jesus picture

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:35:15 2013 No.5827664 >>5827660 >Because when you're nothing you want to be something, and when you're something you're just living the life. Why not start at 0? Because its a longer climb to the top

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:36:14 2013 No.5827667 >>5827664 And it takes a lot more effort, but it gives experience, and more solid ground to walk on when you're out of the deep deep well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:38:14 2013 No.5827673 >>5827667 But less time to achieve the ultimate experience. If you don't make use of a headstart you're destined to slum it with the downtowners

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:39:28 2013 No.5827677 >>5827673 Oh holy crap losing kickstarts the drive like no other, im so constantly used to it when im reduced to it again i turn all my defeat towards improvement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:41:29 2013 No.5827687 >>5827677 >Oh holy crap losing kickstarts the drive like no other, im so constantly used to it when im reduced to it again i turn all my defeat towards improvement. It was ever thus

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 17:45:00 2013 No.5827695 >>5827687 And forever should stay, if i get it correctly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 18:48:48 2013 No.5827870 the one where he invented memes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:00:49 2013 No.5828040 >>5821898 >the one where he invented memes lolmageddon at that pic op

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:06:35 2013 No.5828049 >>5821898 The Selfish Meme It made me the libertarian I am today

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:09:35 2013 No.5828054 Is it just me, or has the internet reached a point were atheistic views are mainstream that hipsters pretend to be christian and act like fedora tier atheism is a big thing anymore?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:12:19 2013 No.5828059 >>5823171 The Extended Phenotype is the best known non-pop science book he's written (in fact I think it's the only one), it's very good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:16:49 2013 No.5828065 >>5828054 almost right, but they switched to agnosticism. next up: new age spiritualism quantum foam global consciousness awakening

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:21:01 2013 No.5828070
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>>5828054
I don't know if I'm a hipster, but yeah, I hate the whole atheist ideology.
I am not a christian myself, I just can't force myself to believe, but I feel jealous of the few people that really are believers and live a happy life.
Would you just get to them and tell them everything they believe is fake? What would you get by that?

Imagine if you were to tell Solaire that he will never reach the sun and shit like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:22:01 2013 No.5828073 >>5828070 >I don't know if I'm a hipster, but yeah, I hate the whole atheist ideology. >atheist ideology Is this an american thing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:25:46 2013 No.5828077 >>5828070 If it was an ignorant child that drove the changes that the intelligent thinkers upheld then surely to a few enlightened adults it must be a matter of policy

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:29:00 2013 No.5828088

>>5825426
He is not militant by your meaning. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105834/Career-atheist-Richard-Dawkins-admits-fact-agnostic.html

>Opposing someone based on a false characterization of them
Where was your reasonable doubt when your heard other people talk about Dawkins?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:32:01 2013 No.5828091 I don't read his work, I'm not an atheist, I am closer to a deist but not quite there either as my idea of God is quite iffy at best.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:32:45 2013 No.5828090 >>5828070 >atheist ideology. What.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:33:46 2013 No.5828092 >>5821898 Damnit, it's the same troll! Forget it, your acts can't change the reality of the universe: THERE IS NO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:34:16 2013 No.5828095

>>5825447
Hey, hey anon, guess what?
Religion is an idealogy moulded by the majority of its advocates with the specific purpose of attempting to render invalid through faith, a belief system which does not rest upon its own foundations. It targets other beliefs in general, not just science believers without the sense to integrate science and faith, and tells them that they are wrong, for having personal beliefs which do not agree with religious principles. Religion, dear friends, is a hate group. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not opposing the idea of believing in a god. With the list I've seen I'm just quite overwhelmed. On the other hand, attempting to absolutely believe in the existence of a god(s) on the foundations which it is not founded and existing on, is a fool's game. etc ...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:36:15 2013 No.5828101 >>5828092 Make one for yourself why don't you?

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:37:15 2013 No.5828104

>>5828095
The Hindus I've met in my life (I've met a lot) have told me this one thing: The most important thing is to remember that we all are apart of God, and separate at the same time. Treat others like they are yourself. Don't waste your time attacking their beliefs when you could be doing something productive to help others.

Oh and I'm not a Hindu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:41:46 2013 No.5828114 >>5828101 I'm not making anything up like the fucking cancerous miserable nazi dude who you call OP.

not even atheist Tue Jun 11 20:44:01 2013 No.5828129

>>5828104
Wow that's wonderful anon. I'm guessing you're saying this because this is how you believe believers of any faith should behave, and atheists do not do this?

Well then this might surprise you, but the atheists you meet who attack religious people, calling them idiots and such, are not representative of all atheists.

Atheism does not have the goal of attacking theism. It is simply a philosophy. People who call themselves atheists and attack religion are confused, because they too have faith in an idea. Science does not support atheism, it just sometimes proves specific theist ideas wrong, and the silly atheists think that this means science is congruent to atheism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 20:44:30 2013 No.5828124 >>5828065 >not pantheistic multiple-ego solipsism

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:00:01 2013 No.5828171 >>5828169 I'm not stating*

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:00:15 2013 No.5828169

>>5828129
I don't have a faith, and I'm stating that Atheists do not do this. It was a response to that anon who said that religions sole purpose is to attack other religions and non-believers, which frankly, is bullshit.

The fact of the matter is, the vocal and annoying part of the Atheist community takes the reigns and everyone else follows like a damn herd of sheep. Why do you think the AmazingAtheist is so popular? Why Dawkins is so popular?

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:05:45 2013 No.5828183

>>5828169
>the vocal and annoying part of the Atheist community takes the reigns and everyone else follows like a damn herd of sheep
Everyone else? Are you seriously giving all atheists these characteristics? Do you really believe that? Come on.

AmazingAtheist is popular because people are edgy/stupid, and I'm guessing he is entertaining. Dawkins is popular partly because he writes good, informative books. Why are you putting him with AmazingAtheist and the r/atheism type? His main attacks are against religion practices which are misanthropic, e.g. banned or suggested non-use of condoms. As I posted here >>5828088, he is agnostic anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:07:31 2013 No.5828187 >>5825458 the only thing Christfags tell me is that I'm going to hell so I myself find them more annoying than atheists.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:08:02 2013 No.5828194 >>5828187 I hope you guys truely see the rise of a king of hell. Maybe it would give you some perspective.

Anonymous Tue Jun 11 21:18:01 2013 No.5828214

>>5828169
>>5828183
I forgot to add, I am the anon who said religions sole purpose is to attack other religions and non-believer, which I agree, is bullshit. The point of my post was to show that the idea that the sole point of atheism is to attack believers is frankly bullshit, which should be obvious, yet many people, seemingly including you, consider atheism this way.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 03:40:31 2013 No.5828770 >>5825407 What is that about?

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 04:23:21 2013 No.5828803

>>5825426
The funny thing is that agnostics are atheists who just want to be "edgy" and go "against the grain". The "agnostics" are more annoying than fundamentalist christians and militant atheists combined.

Dawkins is pretty cool though. Even though I don't necessarily agree with the militant atheism. Somebody has to tell the creationists that they're retarded, and Dawkins has been the best at doing that so far.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 04:56:17 2013 No.5828814 >>5825442 ahmed pls go

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 05:09:16 2013 No.5828823 [DELETED]

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>>5828814
ugh, you know what it's like when you guys pause because "WE CANT SAY NUTTIN"
you make good knowledge so rare.. i'm not your fucking lab rat and i should have left this mental hospital long ago. Thrust yourselves into orbit, post-scarcity /sci/, it's your destiny. peace.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 05:31:45 2013 No.5828841
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>>5828803
>The "agnostics" are more annoying than fundamentalist christians and militant atheists combined
I agree. Militant agnostics are like philosophers but worse since all they talk about is "YOU CAN'T KNOW NUFFIN". They will never know what it's like to be euphoric.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 05:47:17 2013 No.5828848

>>5828803
Depends on the vein of agnosticism. I'm a philosophic Agnostic, practical atheist. I can only be sure what my sense perceive and form rational conclusions based off of those perceptions. There has been no evidence suggesting the existence of some divine/supernatural force therefore I have no reason to believe in such, but if hard evidence were to surface suggesting such a thing then I wouldn't deny it wholesale. The "edgy" "against the grain" agnostics of which you speaks aren't true agnostics, they're agnostic for the sake of being contrarian and likely fall under the incredibly annoying "spiritual".
Most atheists fall under agnostic, so long as they're not the "There is definitely, 100% no god".
As for me. Is there a god? Could be, but I've seen nothing that has persuaded me to act in a manner that one exists. Until evidence speaks otherwise, I'm going to act under the assumption there isn't one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 05:48:16 2013 No.5828849 >>5828217 That's only incorrect if we're talking about extant species.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 06:41:16 2013 No.5828874 The Quran

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 07:08:16 2013 No.5828903 >>5828070 it would only upset them because they were taught religion as a child. if you were born and grew up with no notion of religion you would not care.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 07:28:15 2013 No.5828915 >>5828073 yeah americans call it a religion because they don't know how to think about something that isn't a religion because they've been so incredibly brainwashed

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 08:06:30 2013 No.5828952

>>5826284
This is how pathetic the typical athiest is.

First they hold a narrow framework as to what god is, showing historical ignorance in most areas of religion, and then make general appeals to "logic" and "reason" as a means to render their views as "more correct" while not actually explaining themselves.

Dawkins and most other mainstream athiests are pathetic pop "intellectuals" who live by preaching to the choir.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 08:30:46 2013 No.5828976

>>5828952
He was right.

You're having the normal reaction after someone disproved your invisible sky daddy. You're angry because you've been holding on to these fairytales for your entire life, and when you get a dose of reality, your natural reaction is anger and hostility.

It's okay though, this phase will pass and you'll have the chance to be euphoric for the first time.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 08:36:47 2013 No.5828988

>>5828915
Dogmas and sacrosanct beliefs imply religion. Though it's a reaction to the "Hurr durr, it's just a theory" that the supernaturally religious through around. We do not know things to be 100% certain, but in order to defend our assumptions we call them truth. People are afraid when they're faced with uncertainty, and it's hard to defend an assumption when the other side claims to know truth. I don't believe science to be "truth", it's simply a tool devised by us to explain things in a damn good manner. Science is a bunch of assumptions based on our perceptions, and a lot of what's come out of it are damn good assumptions. New things will come along that will challenge those assumptions, and we'll use science to find an explanation. By holding scientific assumptions as infallible doctrine, we risk stagnating science.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:06:45 2013 No.5829011

>>5828088

Sufficient evidence one way or another is why we make a decision. For example, I never heard of Dawkins claiming to be 'agnostic', despite also claiming to be a "6.9 on a scale of 1 to 7" in favor of atheism. You make decisions with what information you have. Religion was the dominant belief for so many years because it was the easiest way to explain different phenomena. That has now been replaced by science in most areas of study, although a lot of people still have mystical beliefs (ghosts, spirits, etc). I do not believe in those things, but I also don't believe all scientific research, despite it being a better model for explaining reccurent phenomena through testing and data analysis. Either way, to completely renounce someone purely for what they believe is ignorant, I just don't like those that make a living doing it. Whether it's a priest or a guy writing books on atheism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:09:01 2013 No.5829013 File: 27 KB, 400x332, retard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Biology > Shit tier pseudoscience Philosophy > Shit tier pseudoscience Using biology and philosophy to support athiesm > God tier Make up your fucking mind /sci/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:17:01 2013 No.5829018 >>5825435 >stomach >second brain >not third brain in males

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:17:15 2013 No.5829016 >>5825430 >Hitchens' razor You mean cancer?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:18:47 2013 No.5829019 >>5825548 >a philosophy that despises humanity and worships death You don't know many religions, do you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:19:45 2013 No.5829021 >>5826477 >Hitchens >intelligent Yeah, letting yourself get waterboarded was really intelligent. And don't get me started on smoking.

Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:23:46 2013 No.5829025

>>5829013

We don't have to make up our mind, doucher. Biology and philosophy are shit tier. For people who want to have a degree and be an academic and sound educated, but who really don't have the smarts to handle real education, like physics, chemistry and math.

And when push comes to shove, atheism supports itself. The religifags have precisely ZERO evidence of their giant astral ape. They already established that atheism is the only rational choice. It's not even a choice; you have no god to worship, so you are forced to live atheistically. Man is natually godless, I'm saying.

Stick all that in your pipe and smoke it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:25:30 2013 No.5829027 >>5829025 >The religifags have precisely ZERO evidence of their giant astral ape You don't know many religions, do you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 12 09:49:45 2013 No.5829048 >>5829021 The fucks the matter with you? Id get waterboarded just to know what its like. He was a bit of a pussy when he did it though.

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