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What is consciousness and why do we need it?

>> No.5818337

To think

>> No.5818340

What is science and why do we need it?

>> No.5818341

To learn

>> No.5818343
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5818343

>>5818336
>What is consciousness?
Seeing images
Hearing sounds
Feeling feels
Thinking thoughts
Smelling smells
and Tasting tastes

THAT IS CONSCIOUSNESS!

>> No.5818345

>>5818343
no, thats only the subjective aspect.

>> No.5818353

>>5818337
>>5818341
Thinking and learning are algorithmic processes physically implemented in the brain. They do neither require nor imply metaphysical intervention.

>>5818343
Perception is a physical process of measurement and is entirely described and explained biologically. None of the items in your list has anything to do with OP's proposed metaphysical entity/phenomenon.

>> No.5818394

>>5818353
we haven't explained it all yet

>> No.5818396

We just don't know.

>> No.5818397

>>5818394
Explained what? The perceptive organs are explained. Please take an intro biology course.

>> No.5818398

>>5818353
Op has asked this question about a hundered times, Isn't everyone getting sick of talking psuedoscience?

>> No.5818432

>>5818397
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_neuroscience
>Consciousness: What is the neuronal basis of subjective experience, cognition, wakefulness, alertness, arousal, and attention? How is the "hard problem of consciousness" solved? What is its function?[1]

>> No.5818435

>>5818432
I stopped caring about math when I was introduced to the concept of imaginary numbers. What a crock of shit. If your equation can only be solved by inventing numbers that can't exist, like some kind of math deity , then you are fucking wrong and the math is flawed. Same for algebra solutions that basically say "the correct answer is whatever the correct answer is". Thats what the math said transcribed to words but god forbid if i wrote in down in english instead of the ancient math runes the teacher word mark me wrong.

Math is logical and numbers never lie my ass. Math is just as flawed as any other human construct.

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>>5818432
Could you please name the observable effects? Without observable effects we can't do science.

>> No.5818464

it's what gives humans direction

sage for pseudobabble

>> No.5818478

There is substantial proof for the universe.
There is substantial proof for this galaxy.
There is substantial proof for this solar system.
And that in that solar system orbits earth with one moon.
On that planet lives a species.
And there is substantial proof that this species has achieved conscioussness.

Why? They are seaking contact with other species with conscioussness. How? Through radio waves. That are out there, that can be tuned into. And those keep proof of our consciousness.

>> No.5818483

>>5818478
>And there is substantial proof that this species has achieved conscioussness.
[citation needed]

Please name the observable effects.

>> No.5818488

>>5818483
can you prove you exist?

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>>5818436
Consciousness.

>> No.5818500

>>5818488
Yes, I can.

>>5818492
What does that mean?

>> No.5818507

>>5818500
How?

>> No.5818508

>>5818500
can you distinguish yourself from other things?

>> No.5818512

>>5818507
Baka. Lurk before posting.

>> No.5818513

>>5818500
Means ur gay.

>> No.5818514

>>5818508
he can't that's why he can only parrot easy things, it's all regurgitated.

>> No.5818517

>>5818507
by using science

>>5818508
Yes.

>> No.5818523

>>5818517
then the fact that you can identify yourself is an observable effect of consciousness

>> No.5818530

>>5818523
No, it's just an application of physics. Stop that spiritualism trolling.

>> No.5818536

>>5818530
its not even close to spiritualism, it's fuckin basic shit

how do you expect to apply physics without your identity

>> No.5818550

Thank you, OP.

>> No.5818597

">What is consciousness and why do we need it?"
Why do you assume we need it? If you can do it in your sleep, that is the mark of experience.

>> No.5818645

bump for an answer