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I'm starting med school in 1 year and 4 months, I deferred entry to work and travel.
I have 1 month with an insane amount of free time, so what can I learn to get a head start in this time?
I figured anatomy was a good place to start, so I learnt the skeletal system last night. I figured the muscular system would be a good idea, and I saw that you have to learn Origin, Insertion, Artery, Innervation, Action for each muscle. Does anyone know where I can find a conclusive list? Would any med students be willing to share some resources/lecture notes?

>> No.5743033

>>5743015
bump

>> No.5743038

>I deferred entry to work and travel.
>so what can I learn to get a head start in this time
You're doing it wrong.

>> No.5743043

>>5743038
How? I'm taking advantage of being young to travel around the world, before I start studying and then get a job.
But I have a month with pretty much nothing to do, so I thought I would use it constructively.

>> No.5743055

don't bother. everything i've read told me pre-studying for med school is a waste of time. at best you'll study the wrong topics, at worst you'll burn out and start med school in a rut.

>> No.5743353

>>5743015
If you have not already been to the Student Doctor Network forum, I would suggest that would be a good place to start.

>> No.5743357

>>5743015

Damn, I wish I had rich parents... must be nice.

>> No.5743369

>>5743015
You should start by looking up the actual symbol of medicine and the Hippocratic oath.

>>5743357
Download the books and study yourself.

>> No.5743384

"I learnt the skeletal system last night"

Yea, no. You didn't. At least not to the level that medical school would require.

If you are serious, read this book. If not, then fuck off.

http://www.amazon.com/Clinically-Oriented-Anatomy-Sixth-Edition/dp/1608311813

>> No.5743388

>>5743015
Are you sure you are studying anatomy correctly?
Get a medical dictionary and check the anatomical terms. Remember to look up the etymology all the times.

You already know the names of the bones, start studying regional anatomy, first the back, second the inferior members, third the superior members and then the head and neck.

By the way, anatomy is pretty easy, you may want to start studying other stuff like organic chemistry, physiology and biochemistry, histology and neurology are important too, but you may also want to enjoy your free time because this may be the last month you can spend with your friends and family, hell is awaiting for you.

>> No.5743393

>>5743388

What?
Organic chemistry is not part of the medical curriculum.

>> No.5743394 [DELETED] 

>>5743388
Why do you want him to read a clinically oriented anatomy book? He hasn't started anything yet, the best books you would recommend him are Netter's anatomy atlas and Gray's anatomy for students.

Also, you can learn the skeletal system in one night, that's the first step to study anatomy, but i believe you're talking about processes and stuff, they aren't really needed until you study muscles..

>> No.5743397 [DELETED] 

>>5743393
>Are you an amerifat? maybe that's the reason why your doctors are so shit they have to go to third world countries to learn stuff.

>> No.5743399

>>5743384

Why do you want him to read a clinically oriented anatomy book? He hasn't started anything yet, the best books you would recommend him are Netter's anatomy atlas and Gray's anatomy for students.

Also, you can learn the skeletal system in one night, that's the first step to study anatomy, but i believe you're talking about processes and stuff, they aren't really needed until you study muscles..

>> No.5743402

>>5743393
>Hurr durr, i don't want to lrn chem cuz i don't think it haz anything to do with medicine.

Bro, do you even want to learn shit? You need some basic knowledge on organic chemistry if you want to understand all the shit in biochem, which you will need to study pharmacology.

>> No.5743410

I'm a first year medical student. This book speaks in clear plain language. It lays everything out from a beginners aspect.

Netter's anatomy atlas has zero fucking words, and if you are suggesting anything in gray's anatomy for him then you've gone full retard

>>5743402
He's already accepted so he has already taken the medical prerequisites (organic chemistry being one). So he will never need to study organic chemistry again. Medical biochem, and medical pharmacology are both completely different in what they stress, and in their scope.

>> No.5743418

>>5743410
>first year medical student
>claims to know shit about medicine

I already gave my suggestions, if you want to become a shit amerifat medic, so be it.

>> No.5743424

I'll help you OP one sec

>> No.5743430

>>5743418

Ur silly.

>> No.5743637

>>5743410
Thanks
>>5743388
I'm pretty sure. I figured anatomy was the way to go because it is pretty content heavy, but while you have to learn a lot it isn't difficult. Its just remembering words and what part of the body they correspond to.

>>5743384
Ok, obviously not conclusively. I learnt the name of every bone, as well as the aspects of most of the bones, and defining features of most of the bones.

I have Gray's anatomy, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to learn everything to the depth of that book.


So can anyone give me a resource for learning the muscular system? Which includes Origin, Insertion, Action etc

>> No.5743747

>>5743637
I told you, do a regional study of each part. There are some compartments and groups of muscles that do the same action and some have a common origin. Netter is a good book, get it. Actually i don't know how good is the original version, but the spanish version is neat.

>> No.5743872

Hey op. 3rd year student here. My recommendation is you relax before entering. Anatomy is the LAST thing I would study, it is one of the easiest and you will have no problem.

I would focus on having the basics right, a little biology and chemistry and if you reeeeeeally want to start (I understand you are eager and think it will give you a boost but seriously, I would enjoy the month, and start fresh) I would then recommend basic physiology, basically any introduction chapters on boron or Guyton, boron preferred. Also ir is one of the books you'll want to have on your shelf.

That's all, if you got any questions send them to inmunoglobulinaG1@hotmail.com. I don't care about spam on that mail.

Good luck ;)

>> No.5743875

>>5743747

Are you on Spain also? What university?

>> No.5743883

What stats got you into medical school?

>> No.5743890

>>5743015
>Caduceus
>Medical symbol

FYI the Caduceus is the symbol of Hermes, who among other things is the patron of thieves.

Ironically, the only place where it's used instead of the proper Rod of Asclepius is in the US, where you pay through the nose for medical treatments.

A grand irony indeed.

>> No.5743904

>>5743015
You posted the exact same thing on TSR.

You won't have any spare time in med school, especially in clinical years - go have fun, you anal fuck.

>> No.5743908

Brush up on cell biology. Genetics and molecular biology are the "hip new field" that med schools are trying to push so you could become a research professor for them and make grant dosh.

Then after that get a good basis in physiology and then patho.

I recommend buying the top rated textbooks on amazon as they are usually really easy to understand but have a ton of helpful information.

Then there's this Dr. Najeeb guy on youtube who does all these lectures and makes it so fucking simple to understand that your average /b/tard could understand. You can torrent the ones you would have to pay for.

They're not that complete though but nice to watch a video when I lose focus reading

>> No.5745235

>>5743747
Thanks, I got Netter's and Moore's, they both seem to be viewed as the best for med students.

>>5743872
Thanks for the offer, I'll email if I have any questions

>>5743883
2-1 Undergraduate degree joint honours in biotech and immunology, 841 UKCat, plenty of experience in a clinical setting in the UK and South America, volunteering with the NHS

>>5743890
Cool fact, thanks

>>5743904
I posted here and actually got decent responses, unlike TSR where the first few people were like
hurrrr do what we say
That's cool that instead of answering my question they gave me advice. But I wasn't looking for that. People are different, I happen to like knowing things in advance, means I can focus on areas I might struggle on.

>>5743357
I worked a pretty cool job through uni, £20/hour not including bonuses. My degree was paid for since I'm from Aberdeen and Scots get free university, and I spent 3 years sharing a flat with 5 other people, so I only paid about £450/month for everything, including food. I have about £10k in the bank and £5k in bonds, and I'm getting student loans to pay for med school.

>>5743908
I'll look Dr. Najeeb up, sounds useful, thanks. Can you recommend a good Pathology book?

>> No.5745276

If you're in, I suggest not studying and instead dicking off for a month. Med School is hard and you will have zero free time.

>> No.5745297

>>5745235

Is entry into postgraduate medicine very competitive?

>> No.5745306

>>5745235

robbins and cotran pathologic basis of disease + any student accessories / workbooks. Anything else is sub-par, at best.

>> No.5745310

>>5743015

The quintessential book for medicine is of course: Grey's Anatomy.

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5745320

>>5745310
>>5745310
>Grey's Anatomy

>> No.5745421

>>5745297
It seems competitive. I got into all five unis I applied to, and I think it was significantly based on my extracurricular stuff. My cousin entered for postgraduate medicine last year and he only got into two. His undergrad was in history and anthropology though.

If you're interested, contact your local NHS hospital and ask them for volunteering oppoortunities. They're very flexible, and you can do anything from 1 hour a week. After you've been doing it a while ask if you can do some shadowing or sit in on some surgeries. Spend time talking to the doctors, expressing your interests, because they will be very handy for references.
If you have time, volunteer overseas. You can get 3 month - a year placements doing something vaguely medicine related, and then also volunteer in clinics/hospitals overseas. The advantage is that regulations are much more lax in certain places, and you will actually take part in the clinical side. I went to Peru for 8 months, and by the end I was regularly assisting in basic surgery.

In my interviews, they were more interested in my experiences than anything else. I spent one of my interviews just talking in broken Spanish with one of the people. For my interview with King's College I didn't discuss anything medical, we spoke about geography and football (soccer).

>>5745306
Awesome, thanks

>>5745310
I actually bought that book, thinking the same. I was so wrong. Its confusingly written, far too detailed and really boring.

>> No.5746298

>>5745421
If you are UK, why didn't you just start with undergrad medicine and save yourself 2-3 years of your life and about 30k?

Also where are you going next year?

>> No.5747928

>>5746298
I spent my last two years in school getting baked with my mates instead of going to class. Still got decent grades, but not good enough to go straight into medicine.

I'm going to UCL

>> No.5747969

OP get a fucking break because it's one of the last for a long time
don't bother with studying anything, it won't prepare you for the humongous amount you will need to learn in a short time
my tip for you would be to get very good at drawing in anatomy

>> No.5748034

>there are doctors that browse 4chan

god dammit

>> No.5748052

>>5748034
There are probably doctors out there that kill people for fun. Its a big world.
And I don't mean Angels of Death, I mean worse.

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5748062

>Gray anatomy
It's a fucking mashup of everything ever known about anatomy, not to mention retarded images.
Netter is really great for images, I've combined it with textbook and it worked perfectly.
I would start with basic anatomy, how it's structured. Learning details just now is ineffective, you'll forget it quickly. Also - genetics, cytology, latin, maybe physiology. It's really tough to pick yourself what will be useful to learn, so I suggest basics of these.

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5748074

The medical cartel: too big to fail, too evil to expose.

.. the most conservative mainstream estimate of medically caused death in America is 225,000 people per year, 119,000 as a result of maltreatment in hospitals, the other 106,000 people are killed by FDA-approved medicines.

Jon Rappaport

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>>5748074
/x/ pls

>> No.5749794

>>5743369
>Download the books and study yourself.
torrents where? I can't find any.

>> No.5749804

>>5749794
http://proxybay.net/torrent/4335887/grays_anatomy_39edition
http://proxybay.net/torrent/7299416/The_Essential_Medical_Students_Ebook_Collection

>> No.5749924 [DELETED] 

>waitlisted at albert einstein
>waiting for decision from NYMC
3.86 GPA 35 MCAT
A-a-am I gonna make it?

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5749925

>waitlisted at albert einstein
>waiting for decision from NYMC
3.86 GPA 35 MCAT
A-a-am I gonna make it?

>> No.5749940

>>5743015

Did any of you guys do Biomedical Science/Biomedicine as an undergrad? If so, how is it? I'm planning to undertake it then hopefully make it into graduate medicine.

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5749966

Next time use the Rod of Asclepius instead of Caduceus.

>> No.5749980

I was a paramedic for a few years before I went through med school. Helped a shit-ton. Just wait a month, you'll be busy in no time.

>> No.5749989

>>5749980

Was it easy? getting into med school I mean

>> No.5750051

>>5749989
Uh, for me, yea. But my paramedic school was a feeder school to the university. I had to take some pre med stuff and then I was in.

Im a flight nurse now, I work on the helicopters. Clinical stuff got boring. Make sure you actually want to do the job.

>> No.5750235

>>5749940
OP here, I did a joint honours in Immunology and Biotechnology. It was interesting for sure, although most of the things I've studied are more detailed than I will be required to know for medicine.

>>5749966
Already been discussed, maybe take a read of the thread first faggot.

>>5749925
From what I understand, your MCAT score is kind of low. Take it again. They don't get to see your previous MCAT scores right?

>> No.5750240

>>5749794
You can find every med school book just through Google. Some will be torrents, most will be via direct download.