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5666387 No.5666387 [Reply] [Original]

for weeks now i have been fantasizing about a computer game with an infinite layer of complexity. let me explain, and while i do so try to not start drifting into "that's simulation theory", because that's really not what i would like this thread to be about.

imagine a game where there is no real hud- interface. say you sit into a fighter spacecraft, and your view does not have data on your screen, but the data is REALLY on different screens inside the cockpit, and so are the buttons that you can manipulate. also the ships steering does not follow some simple algorithm but a set of highly complex algorithms that simulate the reactions of the engines etc etc.

am i making sense? it's hard to describe what i want without getting into tldr territory...

the basic gist of my question is, when will we start approaching computation so powerful that games with these vast layers of complexity will start becoming a reality?

and once they do, how long until we can realistically simulate complex organisms inside a simulated virtual world... say simulate a fight between 4 gorillas and 20 hyenas just for the lulz... however with such a vast complexity that every biochemical decision making process, every anatomical and physical aspect is accurately calculated taking slight random variations and possible mutations (or even defects in some form or another) into consideration...

>> No.5666407

Wow, whole weeks OP? Just take another couple of months and I'm sure you'll have it up and running. Get started now and don't come back till you're done!

>> No.5666417

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodeck

>> No.5666421

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th8H6mnM540

>> No.5666425

From what I've been told, applied math in physical rules are great, but always just approximizations. So the question is whether or not we can simulate that gorilla 100% or if we can only simulate something that is gorilla-like.

>> No.5666471

>>5666407

sry i don't know if you are making fun of me (and if so why) or if you genuinely believe i am / could be working on this. first time posting on /sci/ i might be unaware of the code of conduct

>>5666421

yeah, the button interface thing is exactly like i imagine it

>>5666425

assuming we eventually get to a point where we fully understanding the function of an animals brain and can calculate it's behaviour taking all variables (obviously billions and billions) into consideration... why not? i mean you can keep going deeper and deeper until the point where you start calculating the behaviour of every single subatomic particle within that virtual reality... at which point you would have per definition created a new reality, inside your computer. easier to imagine would be to just calculate on a molecular-scale though (but obviously still way outside of our present computer power). even realistically calculating the fall and splash of a droplet of water using no simplifying algorithms and calculating every single individual molecule is WAY outside of our temporary computers abilities... kinda mindblowing considering how powerful they SEEM.

>> No.5666536

>>5666387
Have a look at this
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Object_testing_arena

>> No.5668786

>>5666536
>http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Object_testing_arena

i dont understand how is this related?