/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.5648415]

What is the deal with singularitarians?
Why are they so cautious and pedantics?

I have some background in IT.
What's the risk of developing AI.
Why would it hurt humans if we simply make it support system that makes recommendations and asks for permission for major strategic decisions rather than something that acts.
It is a machine after all.

There isn't a 'what if', it's all programmed. It would take an evil person to create an evil AI.

If someone was going to develop this, and had no knowledge of the research down by the machine intelligence institute, what would you want to tell them so that they took head of possible dangers.

And, why are they wasting so much time and effort on crap. What have they actually produced that isn't mental masturbation, and is to the quality of actual published works on the dangers of different and plausible technologies, as the defence does.

take longer to make your decisions

[Mutemattics !!58hTUK7XbfZ No.5648423]

>Why are they so cautious and pedantics?
Why such conclusion?

[Anonymous No.5648454]

>>5648415
>Why would it hurt humans if we simply make it support system that makes recommendations and asks for permission for major strategic decisions rather than something that acts.
Because of the people who would program it to hurt specific humans.

Men with power tend to do terrible things with that power. It's not the technology that's feared, it's those in control of it.

[Anonymous No.5648501]

Have you seen any recent science fiction movie ever?

Matrix, Terminator, I, Robot, 2001: a Space Odyssey, the list goes on.

But yes I believe they can be controlled. But it would be nice to avoid loss of life before we get there.

[Anonymous No.5648515]

>>5648415
>What is the deal with singularitarians

A bunch of retarded people believe that:
1) Exponential growth is ALWAYS sustainable
2) The growth in computing is not exponential but growing at a rate that itself is exponential. (IE the derivative is exponential)
3) Therefore the growth is superexponential!
4) Being superexponential with a exponential derivative means computer's power as a function of time have a vertical asymptote
5) Hence computers in the very near future will be all powerful gods worthy of worship and will solve all our problems (which assumes incorrectly that every problem is decidable with just infinitely powerful computers)
source:The seminal book(s) on the topic by the guy who invented the idea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singularity_Is_Near

<span class="math"> \bf{ *~*THIS ~ SHIT ~ IS ~ WHAT ~ THEY ~ ACTUALLY ~ BELIEVE*~* } [/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.5649085]

>>5648515
If a derivative is exponential, so is the original function.
That's sort of the point of e^x.

[Anonymous No.5649094]

>>5648501
Movies

[Anonymous No.5649139]

>>5648515
>(IE the derivative is exponential)
>superexponential!
What the fuck. You are a goddamn idiot and have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.5649147]

> It would take an evil person to create an evil AI.
No. The AI doesn't have to hate you to kill you. If it has any purpose BUT being nice to humans it will kill us all.
You are made of atoms, and whatever the AI wants to do, it has a better use for those atoms than you.

[Anonymous No.5649152]

>>5649085
That is the joke

>http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Singularity_Is_Near&oldid=538036200#The_law_of_accelerating_returns

Only retards and CS majors don't see the horrible flaws all of the place in his logic/math.

[Anonymous No.5649161]

>>5649139
Don't attack the messenger. I'm just quoting the creator of the singularity concept word for word. This is literally what he writes in his books on the topic and what all the singularity fags believe.

[Anonymous No.5649186]

>>5649161
Actually, the creator of the concept "singularity" would be Vernor Vinge, whose position is very different from Kurzweil's.

[Anonymous No.5649307]

>>5649186
How so?