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5532429 No.5532429 [Reply] [Original]

heh
nasa now has a new angle for funding
>"you want this to happen to LA? we never even saw this coming because we were too fucking broke to detect it!"
or, how to get congress on board
>"you want this to happen to your constituents?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/meteor-falls-in-russias-chelyabinsk-region/2013/02/15/b990e75e-7769-11e2-aa12-e6cf1d31106b_gallery.html#photo=1

>> No.5532474

If only 9/11 happened from meteorites.... imagine where science would be today.

>> No.5532491

>>5532474
>George declares war on space

>> No.5532500
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>>5532491

>> No.5532553

>>5532429
This is a good thing.

From a greater good point of view, it would've been even better had this asteroid been larger and wiped out a major city.

Humans don't take action until after the fact. Asteroids represent an actual existential threat to humanity, but we ignore them because the danger seems so remote.

Until some serious damage is done by an undetected asteroid, we will not see the proper funding dedicated to space exploration and asteroid tracking that should exist.

Our only hope is that the next meteorite that kills people isn't so big that it kills /all/ the people.

>> No.5532578

>>5532553
>it would've been even better had this asteroid been larger and wiped out a major city.

It could've been just the same size and had the main body land in NYC and it would've outdone 9/11 in kills.
I mean look at the angle it's approaching with. Assuming the twin towers were still standing it could've shot through bouth of them and continued with taking out several additional skyscrapers.

>> No.5532757

>>5532578
please kill youself

>> No.5532773

>>5532757
Why?

>> No.5533084

>>5532553
>2012DA14 passes below geosynchronous on a close approach
>completely undetected 50 foot wide city killer air-bursts over russia with a total explosive energy of 300kilotons

if this doesn't wake congress THE FUCK UP, yeah it's going to require a direct hit, sadly.

>> No.5533096

>>5532773

It broke up about 20km above the ground.

>> No.5533098

>>5532491
No, more like
>We have every reason to believe these extra territorial terrorizers are building meteors of mass destruction in Iraq.

>> No.5533102

>>5532578
So, what you're saying.... Is meteors did 9/11?

>> No.5533151

>meteor falls on Murika
>the president declares war on these terror-forming terrarists
>NASA gets charged to build a space army so the US of A can invade space

>> No.5533171

>>5533098
lol this. Conspiracy theorists believe that in order to convince the US to go to IRAQ, the government set up the most elaborate, perfectly executed conspiracy possible, bombing their own buildings, and then convinced the public that the culprits were Saudi-born terrorists operating in Afghanistan. ...to get support for invading Iraq. Uh-huh.

>> No.5533176

>>5532429
I just had the best idea ever.

We launch a cube or mini satellite with an inflatable radar reflector(this will cost ~$500k in total) and as good engine as possible.
The cube sattelite will accelerate into a highly eccentric orbit over the course of two years. The most distant point being far outside lunar orbit.

We then do a course adjustment to send it crashing towards a large city on earth, and inflate the gigantic reflector ball.

The ensuing panic should ensure adequate funding is provided.

>> No.5533179

>>5533096
It broke up in the explosion, but still shattered fragments, and the core hit a lake.

>> No.5533188

>>5533084
yeah, no

It just shows that some people aren't as smart as they think they are.

Keep this in mind: when a doctor, an investor or a plumber gets something wrong, it's their incompetence. If a scientist gets something wrong -> "lol, we need more money because we have old technology from 2013!"

They fucked up. As simple as that.

>> No.5533194

>>5533188
The meteor in question was approximately 2 meters in diametere. They aren't rated as a threat at all at that scale

>> No.5533200

>>5533194
A 2 meter wide meteor traveling at high velocity? No, not a threat.

A 2 meter wide meteorite traveling at high velocity? YES, BIG THREAT.

>> No.5533208
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its Doner coming back to earth as a fiery apparition of Justice.

He's here to finish the job

>> No.5533209

>>5533188
with better asteroid watchers we could have seen it coming. nasa too broke yo

>> No.5533215

>>5533200
>YES, BIG THREAT.
It blew out a few thousand windows, hurt a few people and could've killed perhaps two hundred people if it hit perfectly. It's nothing particularly noteworthy, and also hard to track and detect due to their size.

The rocks people are worried about are the nuke equivalents and extinction grade meteors. Easier to find and much more dangerous.

>> No.5533216

>>5533176
> Engine, rather than solar sail.
Sure, whatever.
> Killing millions of people, without even making any profit off of it.
Now that's just stupid.

Better idea:
1. Send out around 200 of these city-busters. Engineering details to be determined later.

2. Program each of these with a remote-controlled encrypted kill switch, which breaks the device into small enough pieces to cause little to no harm. Standard security procedures; three tries for entering the device-unique code, then the device becomes unstoppable.

3. Get them into such orbits that they hit various population centers, one year apart.

4. Demand massive amounts of cash, land, hoes, etc.

5. World either gives in to your demands, or has to deal with between 100 and 200 cities being destroyed over the course of the next two centuries.

The one and only downside to this plan is that the entire world will hate you. If you can break under torture, they may well try to do so. Make sure you can commit suicide at will, and that others know this.

>> No.5533218

>>5533216

My apologies for the unintended sage.

>> No.5533231

>>5533216
>solar sail.
Only exists as experimental tech. I'm trying to make a political statement, not a scientific experiment here.

> Killing millions of people
It's an inflatable empty balloon. It will have a radar signature that screams of impending doom, but all of it will burn up in the atmosphere. No one will die from it.

Do you know nothing of physics?

>> No.5533233

>>5533215
You are right, that this particular event isn't very noteworthy.

However, what makes this such a big threat, is that if a small meteorite like this were to hit a large city, there could be thousands of people injured, killed, damages done, possible radiation brought in, contamination, and even more consequential shock wave events.

>> No.5533249

>>5533215
It blew out a few thousand windows, hurt a few people and could've killed perhaps two hundred people if it hit perfectly. It's nothing particularly noteworthy,

Imagine exactly what you just said.

Now imagine that happening in downtown Manhattan instead of a lake in Russia.

Sounds pretty damn threatening to me.

>> No.5533254

>>5533233
The shock wave is insufficient to damage buildings and structures from an air burst at this scale, really, it have to hit them directly at this size.

As it increase in diameter however, it starts to exceed building specs just from the shockwave. From the footage of the event, the airburst was pretty much right above the town. If this had been a tunguskan event, that town might as well have been hit by a nuke. And the fragments of the roid could've continued to do additional damage. Seismic events are probably a lesser concern until we get to extinction grade rocks.

>> No.5533256

>>5533102
Jewish meteors

>> No.5533268

>>5533254
Wasn't the shock wave what blew out all of the windows in the surrounding areas? I think that would be pretty sufficient damage to sky scrapers and large structures. Sure, they might not fall, but that's a lot of money in damage repairs.

>> No.5533273

>>5532491
Dammit I can't stop laughing

>> No.5533275
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>>5533256
It's all becoming so clear!

>> No.5533278

>>5533096
'MURRICAN here I clearly remember the twin towers being 30Km high (stupid Metric system right?)
But seriously now, I would have loved for it to hit Washington or something.

>> No.5533285

>The Russia meteor is the largest reported since 1908, when a meteor hit Tunguska, Siberia. The meteor entered the atmosphere at about 40,000 mph (18 kilometers per second). The impact time was 7:20:26 p.m. PST, or 10:20:26 p.m. EST on Feb. 14 (3:20:26 UTC on Feb. 15), and the energy released by the impact was in the hundreds of kilotons.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130215.html

>> No.5533297

But what could have happened if it didn't explode above the surface, but rather hit the ground? It probably would be a huge explosion? Russians are lucky that this 25foot 300 kiloton bomb didn't explode somewhere in the city center.

>> No.5533309

>>5533297
Aren't they unlucky to get any kind of projectile from space hit them?
You sound like those people that see a car accident in which 7 people die and a 3 year old survives and go "It's a miracle, thank god that kid made it out alive"

>> No.5533313

>>5533297

Think of what Hiroshima did and multiply that by 10.

>> No.5533318

>>5533313
Hiroshima did nothing, it get demolished.
You must be speaking of Little Boy

>> No.5533320

>>5533313
>what Hiroshima did

I meant what Little Boy did to Hiroshima. Long day at work...

>> No.5533337

So lets assume 15-20 kips is common. What would 1 meter do to a major city? 10? 20? 100? One of you math/physics asspies get on it.

>> No.5533347

>>5533337
I meant 15-20 kilometers per second.

>> No.5533357

>>5533337
>asspies

>> No.5533361
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>> No.5533366

>If North Korea and Iran launched their nukes to hit meteors striking Earth.

>> No.5533368

>>5533366
>North Korea
>Successfully launching anything

>> No.5533371

>>5533368
>Questioning Best Korea

>> No.5533436

>>5533337
1m - Very small airburst, potentially nothing

10m - Airburst; similar to wednesday event. ~100-300 kilotons TNT equivalent. Due to small size, this explode at a high altitude and most of the energy dissipates before reaching the ground. Minor damage to buildings.

20m - Large airburst; On the order of ~1 megaton TNT. These are still relatively small and explode high up. Damage would still be minor but quite a bit more than the russian event. Broken windows, damage to flora, possibly minor structural damage to buildings.

100m - Enormous airburst, possibly impact. This is twice the size of the rock that exploded over Tunguska in 1908, which flattened 1500 sq. km of trees. The yield would be 100-300 megatons TNT, ~750 to 2400 times the yield of Little Boy. Due to it's size, the airburst (if it didn't impact) would be extremely shallow, allowing a large amount of energy to reach the ground. An event this size would cause very extensive damage to a medium sized city, likely leveling everything in it's blast radius. If it exploded/impacted over a major city, casualties would be in the millions.

1000m - Large impact. Yield of ~100,000 to 300,000 megatons of TNT. At this point, global catastrophe is imminent. While this is not an extinction level event, casualties (of humans) would be likely be in the hundreds of millions, no matter where it struck. The impact it self would completely decimate a very large area, probably hundreds of thousands of square kilometers. If it impacted land, a very large earthquake would likely occur. Over water, expect a global mega tsunami. It would also send millions of fragments back into the atmosphere, which would later crash down in their own, smaller, impact events. A dust cloud would likely envelope the earth for a couple months, causing global temperatures to drop. Overall, maybe 5% of all life on earth will perish.

Anything much bigger and you're looking at a global extinction.

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>>5533436
>20m - Large airburst; On the order of ~1 megaton TNT. These are still relatively small and explode high up. Damage would still be minor but quite a bit more than the russian event. Broken windows, damage to flora, possibly minor structural damage to buildings.

That's about what this one did being about 15m. Buildings collapsed from the blast.

Moar videos!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1kvHl5Qcnzc

>> No.5533455

Human extinction is inevitable. Unless we become gods, we will eventually be destroyed by the titanic forces of the universe.

>> No.5533482

i am scared

>> No.5533488

>>5533482
Scared of what? Death? Or the pain of death? Or the suffering that death brings?

Just enjoy what time you have.

>> No.5533506

>>5533482
If you die in your sleep you won't even know about it, you'll fade into nothingness forever.

>> No.5533511

3.1E20 RJs

>> No.5533519

>>5533455
We will become gods, machine gods with intellect extremely superior to our own, as we expand and progress into everything.

>> No.5533521

Please, someone prevent the world from ending

>> No.5533536

>>5533519
So we will stop being human.
Maybe like a machine/something that contains the collective human contagiousness?
brb going to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion

>> No.5533544

>>5533521
The world will be fine, but humans might die off. Hopefully the evolution of more beautiful things will come about.

>> No.5533636

>>5533455
Once humans spread across the stars the only thing that could wipe us out are our offspring, which isn't extinction.

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>> No.5533650

>>5533647
>guaranteed_replies.jpg

>> No.5533666

>>5533647
>smack you in the urals

PFFFFTHAHAHA
i don't even care if it comes from a shitty meme
that line was excellently phrased

>> No.5533676

>>5533337
Mass is proportional to the cube of the radius. Energy released is proportional to mass. What this means is that if you double the radius, the damage done goes up by 8 times.

>> No.5533734

>>5533676
May you show me the math on that?

I'm Intrigued

>> No.5533747

>>5533179
>and the core hit a lake.
>the core

Assumes facts not in evidence.

A fragment hit a lake -- other fragments will turn up scattered around the area.

>> No.5533754

>>5533233
>possible radiation brought in

facepalm.jpg

>> No.5533760

>>5533249
They are rare events that would, under very rare circumstances, do some damage to a city.

There is little reason to think we could detect them and have time to do anything about them -- they are too small and too fast.

The big ones, the ones that would potentially kill large numbers of people, or at very worst case give us another K-T event sort of disaster -- these are big enough to see years in advance, and possibly do something about.

We're working on finding these things -- as far as I know, and correct me, anybody, if I am wrong, NOBODY is actually developing technology to deal with one of them.

>> No.5533798

>>5533636
The heat-death of the universe is inevitable.

>> No.5533822

What are the chances that this meteorite and the one that missed earth were part of the same rock?

>> No.5533828

>>5533171

Now a days you don't even need a conspiracy to do what you want because the general public is too busy watching Snooki and J-Wow

>> No.5533840

>>5533822

Astonomically low. They came from completely different trajectories.

>> No.5533844

>>5533828
>Snooki and J-Wow

I had no idea what it was :(

>> No.5533850

>>5533844

At least you didn't. Only reason I knew is because of my obnoxious cousin that needs to just die in a fire.

>> No.5533859

In order for the US to get the fuck off the couch, an asteroid would actually have to impact a major city and kill thousands.

Once the "DURRR YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING!" dies down, people might be more willing to spend more on space, than taking care of shaniqua's unemployed ass and her 5 babies from 4 different dads.

>> No.5533866

>>5533840
>astronomically
I see what you did there

>> No.5533867

>>5533798
THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

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>>5533278
>30 Km high
>30
>Km

more like 1.6

>> No.5533877

>>5532553
It wouldn't do anything, everyone would just start praying to GAWD to save them when the meteors start falling. If they survived for a week they'd credit it for God. Then eventually another meteor would hit and kill everyone anyway.

>> No.5533892

>>5533278

I hate that we're both in the same country. Fuck our education system.

>> No.5533899

>>5533892
I'm neither American nor was my comment intended to be taken seriously.
Poe's law at its finest.

>> No.5533981

Updated,
>New information provided by a worldwide network of sensors has allowed scientists to refine their estimates for the size of the object that entered that atmosphere and disintegrated in the skies over Chelyabinsk, Russia, at 7:20:26 p.m. PST, or 10:20:26 p.m. EST on Feb. 14 (3:20:26 UTC on Feb. 15).

The estimated size of the object, prior to entering Earth's atmosphere, has been revised upward from 49 feet (15 meters) to 55 feet (17 meters), and its estimated mass has increased from 7,000 to 10,000 tons. Also, the estimate for energy released during the event has increased by 30 kilotons to nearly 500 kilotons of energy released. These new estimates were generated using new data that had been collected by five additional infrasound stations located around the world – the first recording the event being in Alaska, over 6,500 kilometers away from Chelyabinsk. The infrasound data indicates that the event, from atmospheric entry to the meteor's airborne disintegration took 32.5 seconds. The calculations using the infrasound data were performed by Peter Brown at the University of Western Ontario, Canada.

"We would expect an event of this magnitude to occur once every 100 years on average," said Paul Chodas of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "When you have a fireball of this size we would expect a large number of meteorites to reach the surface and in this case there were probably some large ones."

The trajectory of the Russia meteor was significantly different than the trajectory of the asteroid 2012 DA14, which hours later made its flyby of Earth, making it a completely unrelated object. The Russia meteor is the largest reported since 1908, when a meteor hit Tunguska, Siberia.

That's a huge bitch.

>> No.5534012

Got done hiking. Felt Amazing! All sweaty and what not.

I desidedto get on the scale...

I'm at 218 pounds...
I was at 180 this summer.
I can't Bleave i lost everything i gained last summer.
Welp.... fuck the past and lets keep going. Lets get back into Healthy foods....

FUCK i Can't B leave i went back

>> No.5534013

>>5534012
please sage this. I diddint mean to post it in here!

>damn it haveing 2 tabs open of /fit/ and /sci/

>> No.5534016

>>5534012
>>5534013
How much alcohol have you consumed today?

>> No.5534018

>>5533798
inb4 we manage to create new universes

>> No.5534046

>>5533981
>completely unrelated object.
whoa what are the odds, i don't blame the tinfoil hat crowd for getting worked up over this one

>> No.5534047
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Chimera invasion

>> No.5534055

>>5533200
Son, don't get your definitions mixed up. A meteor is an asteroid that has entered the atmosphere. A meteorite is a meteor that has crashed into the body of our planet. And an asteroid is still chillin' in space....
Something immobile (and splattered up) doesn't have velocity relative to the object it has splattered into.

>> No.5534064

holy shit you people are stupid.

MOSCOW (AP) — With a blinding flash and a booming shock wave, a meteor blazed across the western Siberian sky Friday and exploded with the force of 20 atomic bombs, injuring more than 1,000 people as it blasted out windows and spread panic in a city of 1 million.

>the force of 20 atomic bombs

now if it exploded only say 0.5 kms above the surface wtf you think would have happend? hmm maybe the same thing as in 1908?

>> No.5534068

>>5533981
it did not hit the surface it exploded in mid air

>> No.5534073

>>5534068

It doesn't say it hit the surface anywhere in that post.

>> No.5534081

Two more reports of meteors: Cuba and San Francisco .

>> No.5534082

>>5534081
Thanks for the source captain.

>> No.5534083

>>5534081

Show a source or get the fuck out.

>> No.5534085

>>5533844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmuBzxR-g9w

>> No.5534086

>Bright fireball reported in skies over San Francisco Bay Area - @nbcbayarea, @abc7newsBayArea

What the hell is going on?

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>> No.5534088

>>5533488
>>5533506

Shut the fuck up, both of you. I hate your fucking guts.

Don't fucking remind me.

>> No.5534093

>>5534086

Happened hours ago:

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Fireball-Streaks-Across-Bay-Area-Sky-191503601.html

>> No.5534095

>>5534082
>>5534083
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_22601594/reaction-meteor-leaves-northern-california-starstruck

>> No.5534098

>>5534093
>>5534095

FUCK I MISSED IT. SHITCUNTS

>> No.5534100

http://beforeitsnews.com/earthquakes/2013/02/exploding-fireballs-reported-all-over-the-globe-japan-russia-cuba-2449522.html

Ok, this is weird. Maybe they are all parts of a single asteroid?

>> No.5534110

>>5534100

This shit is approaching HAPPENING

>> No.5534113

>>5534100

Probably. An asteroid whizzed by Earth like 12 hours ago. We got peppered a bit before and after it passed.

>> No.5534115

>>5534098
same, though i might not live near enough

>> No.5534130

The meteors are debris from this:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2013/02/14/science-asteroid-da14-flyby.html

>> No.5534193

>>5534130

No. They are not.

If they were, it would have hit us too.

>> No.5534228

The one in Cuba exploded.

http://www.rainews24.rai.it/it/news.php?newsid=174956

>> No.5534239

/sci/ its /pol/ here. There was the near miss with DA14, the meteor over russia, now the one in california and some sketchy reports of a possible hit in cuba.

Isnt this highly unlikely to all occur in this short of time frame?

Is it "HAPPENING?"

>> No.5534242

>>5534239

don't be retarded. just because this is how Armageddon went, doesn't mean shit.

god, i thought we had a few years before people started shit about the apocalypse again.

>> No.5534250

>>5534239
Clear the Mayans were off by a little under two months. This is actually the beginning of the end of the world.

So yes, IT'S HAPPENING.

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> Ok, this is weird. Maybe they are all parts of a single asteroid?

The Chelyabinsk asteroid was moving in a completely different direction from DA14 and they were nearly a day apart, which means it'd have to have been in a different orbit even if it were moving in the same direction, which it wasn't. They can't be fragments of the same thing.

Dunno about the California or Cuba meteors. Maybe we're being attacked by the Comet Empire.

>> No.5534260

>>5534239

The correct /sci/ answer is that IT IS ALWAYS HAPPENING!

>> No.5534262

>>5534239
The gay fagcisco thing is a regular shooting star. Happens probably every single day. CONFIRMATION BIAS in action

>> No.5534265

>>5532553
>From a greater good point of view, it would've been even better had this asteroid been larger and wiped out a major city.

>Humans don't take action until after the fact. Asteroids represent an actual existential threat to humanity,

you know realize you are thinking just like the officials that planned the false flag attacks

>> No.5534279

>>5534265

Except that impact events aren't orchestrated by people, they just happen.

Secondly, the reasoning is entirely sound. It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye.

>> No.5534284

>>5533760
>NOBODY is actually developing technology to deal with one of them.
them being fucking broke might account for that
i'd prefer the public was very worried about this, they might actually value funding for aerospace

>> No.5534285

Gentlemen, it was an honor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzqiPvGrkTo

>> No.5534288

>>5534046
it is actually pretty crazy odds, but they are utterly unrelated in any conceivable way, save for them both being from space

>> No.5534290

>>5534284

They'd only value it as long as they were afraid.

How would you keep them afraid?

>> No.5534296

>>5534290

I'd make a large series of movies based entirely on various impact events and release them over a short period of time. I'd also hope to gain Pentagon funding for these projects since I'm probably gonna have to use military bases, personnel and so on during the production. I'd also portray the government, with a strong focus on NASA, in a positive light while focusing heavily on various states cooperating in a united effort against the threat.

You know, the stuff Hollywood always does whenever there is a remote fear which they can exploit and propagate for further exploitation.

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>>5534296
Don't forget this guy.

>> No.5534305

>>5534290
Just like every other war.
Armageddon II
Armageddon attack of the rock (The rock will be the main instead of Bruce Willis.
Call of Asteroid: Future warfare 1,2,3,...,n
Lots of merchandise
Talking about it on the news 24/7
Asteroid reality shows
Create and fund a group that will act as a tinfoil group stating that this whole fearing the asteroids is exaggerated and we need to take care of things like hunger and not building giant lazors for space rocks.
Complete these simple steps and it'll be the agenda for at least two decades.

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Wait for it ... It's a movie promotional ...

>> No.5534312

Well, this was exciting, you guys. For 15 minutes.

Now I'm going back to playing video games.

>> No.5534313

>>5534305
>>5534296

no one is going to stay interested that long.

what are you going to do this month?

>> No.5534319

>>5534313
How about...we can build two towers and drive rockets that look like rocks into them killing a couple of thousand people, that's gonna keep the public interested.

>> No.5534321

>>5534319

you'd be surprised how hard that'd be to fake.

>> No.5534329

>>5534321
Hard is still easier than impossible (unless you're playing DMC)
Captcha: Armsday now

>> No.5534355

>>5534313

I know that's why I ended the first sentence by stating that I'd release them over a short period of time. A propaganda campaign is often most effective if it happens in a large burst, otherwise the propaganda will just become background noise.

Also, the events I'm talking about has already happen, it happened back in the 90s with movies like Armageddon and Deep Impact. During the 70s the propaganda for science and technology was largely science fiction films with movies like 2001 and others being largely produced by NASA in cooperation with Hollywood. These days, the pentagon funds all kinds of movie which promote their agenda.

>> No.5534384

>>5534130
>Americans making up their own shit.
It was expected. I bet many murrikans are offended that meteor hit some shithole in Russia and not glorious US and A.

>> No.5534406

>>5534319
>>5534321
How about we... don't fake it?
Get a few 'tards into space with some hardware and soon it's gonna be a bright day in Washington D.C.

>> No.5534430

>>5534285
and a privilege

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPLcZ5Rk3Lg

>> No.5534434
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The best video! huge shock wave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnUXuTQcDwc

>> No.5534436

>>5534434
oh..... Come on.

thats... So 2006

>> No.5534437

>>5534434
Meh, flagged for Rick Roll.

>> No.5534447

NASA has alot to answer for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlLN_Jcg1pc

>> No.5534453

>>5534437
sound angry faggot.

>> No.5534456

>>5534453
Ooh yeah I'm so mad bro, I'm writing my senator as we speak.

>> No.5534467

I hope you guys already knew about this thing, sharing for curious people that want to know more: http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/

>> No.5534471

>>5534012
Get the fuck out of here, Loipa.

>> No.5534473

>>5534447
Some of that footage looks real. The way Edgar Mitchell and NASA commented on UFOs sounds pretty legitimate.

>> No.5534480

>>5534447

Are we seriously jumping on the aliens bandwagon already?

>> No.5534490

>>5534480
Michio Kaku has publicly said that aliens are probably real. 'Probably' is the best that anyone can manage without being seen a nutjob. All I can say is look at the evidence and come to a conclusion yourself. Skepticism is your friend but don't wear a tinfoil hat.

>> No.5534548

>>5533875

>trying to correct someone
>fails miserably

>> No.5534559

>>5533231

You'll probably just get arrested due to disturbing the peace or something like that and then branded as a crazy weirdo.

>> No.5534562

>>5533268

It's still very dangerous though, remember the hundreds of people injured in Russia were mainly injured by flying glass.

>> No.5534564

>>5533313

Were the early nukes really that inefficient that they only had 30 kiloton yields?

>> No.5534565

>>5533297

Hell, imagine if the main bulk of it exploded just 10 kms up, instead of 30? A lot of people would probably have died.

>> No.5534568

>>5534564
The asteroid explosion was estimated at around 500kton.

The hiroshima and nagasaki devices had yields of 16kton and 21kton respectively.

>> No.5534569

>>5534447
I'll explain something to you as clearly as possible. I tried to get a film degree. I ended up not being excepted to the major but before that happened I was required to take nearly 2 years of film classes, half of which were technical. That's the equivalent of an associates degree in film.

Yes, there are many more qualified people who can answer this with more authority than I can but let me be clear.

FILM IS NOT PERFECT. You would be baffled as to how much film stock has to end up on the cutting room floor because it's unusable because of things as common as air bubbles, heat, and developing chemicals.

Even Betamax, which was the industry standard for 30 years (look it up) is flawed and will transfer images down. So that as the reel of magnetic tape is winding images can be transferred from a top layer down to a lower layer and will produce after images, ghostly images, you name it.

This is so common it's laughable. Nearly all of those images come from the age of film or magnetic tapes and can be easily dismissed.

I'm sure even modern digital cameras aren't perfect but I would never ever use blurry unfocused images caught on camera to prove anything.

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5534571

>>5533754

Surely, radioactive minerals exist on Earth right?

>> No.5534574

>>5534571

Only on Earth?

Need to proof read my posts more.

>> No.5534575

>>5533754
>>5534571

the meteor exploded, if it cointained radioactive materials could create a fallout over the city

>> No.5534579

>>5534575
Asteroids do have radionuclides in them. But the concentration for heavy elements is usually even lower than the Earth average.

You will be exposed to a more dangerous radiological hazard in a badly ventilated building that's been built on basement granite.

>> No.5534693

>>5534569
Those were just old clips from NASA. There are constantly new uploads to youtube by civilians. Here is a compilation from 2011:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6kweDezuiA&list=PL0D87C4619C9B4A49&index=1

There are even close ups of UFOs from outside aeroplane windows.

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5534763

just leaving this here

>> No.5534773
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5534773

all of my rage
>this is what people actually believe

>> No.5534779

>>5534073
Bits of it did. All of the matter in the rock is now part of Earth, either in the ground or in the atmosphere. Exploding doesn't change that.

>> No.5534780

>>5534086
Nothing. Meteors are fairly common -- anybody who sees a bright one over the next few days is going to call the news.

>> No.5534782

>>5534100
>beforeitsnews.com

Didn't even click the link.

>> No.5534789

>>5534562
FWIW, I'd guess the average window on a New York skyscraper would be at least SOMEWHAT more resilient than the left-over -soviet architecture ins some Russian backwater.

Enough to make a difference? Hellifino.

>> No.5534791

>>5534012
...What?

>> No.5534794

>>5534773
I liked the use of "boffins," though. Think I'll start using it myself.

>> No.5534806

>>5534773
>maybe they need to brush up on their knowledge of technology

I weep for this man's intelligence.

>> No.5534853

more are coming!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2011_L4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2012_S1

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5534879

>>5533216

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5534893

The meteorite is a miracle to science. Finally we can convince the common people that science research is worth funding, even if it doesn't give any immediate benefits.

>> No.5534911

>>5534853

No they're not, they're just sungrazers they approach the sun closely, not Earth.

They may be highly visible from Earth though.

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5534935

>>5534773

This has to be a troll

>> No.5535244

Why isn't this a sticky? It's a major event in astronomy and geology. They recovered fragments.

>> No.5535339

>>5535244
/sci/ has no mods

>> No.5535942

What kind of casualties do you think we'd be looking at if it had exploded over New York?

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5535987

>>5535244
How do we know that this whole "meteor" thing isn't just a fraud perpetrated by the russians?

>> No.5536032

>>5535987

How do we know it wasn't the americans testing a weapon on the russians?

>> No.5536044 [DELETED] 

>>5536032

What weapon lol ?

>> No.5536047

>>5535942

>30 kT bomb, minimum.

>> No.5536055

>>5536047
I mean at the same altitude as in russia (30-70 km). And yeah, it was quite powerful, I think it has been estimated to about 500kt.

>> No.5536063

>>5535942
>exploded over New york?
Probably 15-20k injuries. A few deaths. Maybe in the double digits
>actually happened as it did over New York?
Around 2-7k injuries no casualties.

>> No.5536201

If this would have happened in the USA Christians would have come out in hordes claiming the end of the world,Lesbians and gays would have performed mass sexual public acts in the name of the Sun god,the scientists would scrached their heads thinking how they missed this one,and blacks would have looted the stores.
Russians "Oh,vell...Anozer Asterroid"

>> No.5536474

>>5536055
something to keep in mind with these energy numbers, bombs disperse the energy in milliseconds at one location, these meteorites disperse them in seconds through a long trajectory. So the numbers may be the same but the terminal effects wont be so bad.

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>> No.5537518

How fast was that thing going in terms of Mach speed with the altitude (30-70 km) and 40,000 mph?

>> No.5537609

>>5534693
What if?

Seriously /sci/ with all the footage, fake or not, NASA must give astronauts that go on ISS some instructions on how to deal with those kind of things in the event of "what if"

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5538629

Tornados are a prime example of when Human Intelligence can't do shit.

It's 2013 and still when there is a tornado the best we can do is get in our basements and pray the thing doesn't hit us.

Just because a problem gets attention, doesn't mean humans will have the ability to do anything about it ESPECIALLY if that poblem is a natural disaster.

Humans don't hold grudges against nature like we do against each other. It prolly has something to do with thinking nature/god is right in doing whatever it did.

>> No.5538703

>>5533216
>Better idea:
>1. Send out around 200 of these city-busters. Engineering details to be determined later.
>2. Program each of these with a remote-controlled encrypted kill switch, which breaks the device into small enough pieces to cause little to no harm. Standard security procedures; three tries for entering the device-unique code, then the device becomes unstoppable.
>3. Get them into such orbits that they hit various population centers, one year apart.
>4. Demand massive amounts of cash, land, hoes, etc.
>5. World either gives in to your demands, or has to deal with between 100 and 200 cities being destroyed over the course of the next two centuries.
>The one and only downside to this plan is that the entire world will hate you. If you can break under torture, they may well try to do so. Make sure you can commit suicide at will, and that others know this.

/sci/ James Bond villains without adequate funding.

>> No.5538745

>>5538629
that and population control, we find a way to deal with natural disasters and we are fucked.