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SHOULD I GO:

Computer Science

OR:

Software Engineering

/sci/ I NEED YOUR HALP.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE TO PICK LOLOLOL (no srssly halp)

>> No.5504473

>>5504467
There are enough sperglords in CS that you would probably fit right in.

>> No.5504471

haaaaaaalp

>> No.5504476

>>5504473
>sperglords
LOL. REAL REASONS THO plox

>> No.5504474

"I couldn't get into a real science program" vs. "I couldn't get into a real engineering program"

Take your pick.

>> No.5504477

>>5504476
You're probably too stupid for either program.

>> No.5504479

bump

>> No.5504484

bumpet

>> No.5504487

>>5504477
>too stupid
>CS

no such thing

>> No.5504494

>>5504487
Maybe at your shit tier university.

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>> No.5504506

>>5504502
why do you say that?

University of Waterloo has heavy mathematics and science in its course load.

>> No.5504508

One is boring, the other is not. Can you guess which?

>> No.5504514

>>5504502
[citation needed]

>> No.5504517

Computer Engineering or Electrical Engineering

CS and SE are for the weak

>> No.5504544

>>5504508
Since most people would call math boring, and CS has more math while SE has more chemistry and physics, I'd say you mean CS is boring?

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>>5504544
>SE has more chemistry and physics

>> No.5504558

>>5504517
tits

>> No.5504564

>>5504514
see >>5497423

>> No.5504568

>>5504467
>Software Engineering
So have you found a university engineering department offering software engineering, or is it just a thing you've heard people talking about?

Software engineering isn't a real field of engineering the way computer, civil, mechanical, electrical, etc are. It's not something you get an engineering degree in. It's like audio engineering or sanitation engineering; a fairly meaningless title every programmer gives themselves.

>> No.5504591

>>5504560
It does, here check this:

http://ugradcalendar.uwaterloo.ca/page/MATH-Bachelor-of-Computer-Science

http://ugradcalendar.uwaterloo.ca/page/ENG-Software-Engineering

>> No.5504586

>>5504568
this OP

also don't just do standalone CS unless you're a mindless shill (which you probably are)
double major in something, whether econ, biology, or art. you'll be able to enter the job market much more easily
just don't taint trve science like physics w/ your plebbiness

>> No.5504600

>>5504586
>just don't taint trve science like physics w/ your plebbiness

explain

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>>5504591
Gabe Newell demands it.

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>>5504591
Larry page demands it.

>> No.5504620

Well in my case Op my undergraduate degree is software engineering, and my plan is CS as graduate option.

>> No.5504624

>>5504591
Ah, I confused the software and development track for software engineering. Also, I presumed software engineering was going to be like my software engineering 1 course I'll be taking soon (business course). However, I'll say that SE does look more boring. I don't care about the science aspect of it.

>> No.5504626

OP what do you want to do after you graduate?

>> No.5504630

>>5504591
>http://ugradcalendar.uwaterloo.ca/page/MATH-Bachelor-of-Computer-Science

Barely has any math. Notice how all the courses have "Advanced" versions for intelligent math majors and retarded watered down versions for brain dead CS majors. Also there's no Vector Calc, ODEs, PDEs, Real analysis, Complex analysis, or Fourier analysis.

>> No.5504633

>>5504591
> http://ugradcalendar.uwaterloo.ca/page/ENG-Software-Engineering
> The Honours Software Engineering program leads to a Bachelor of Software Engineering (BSE) degree. The program is accredited by both the Canadian Engineering Accreditation Board

Interesting. I wasn't aware software engineering was something the CEAB would accredit you for. That being said (>>5504568) is still true. I'm Canadian. 100% of the "Software Engineers" I've met have either a CS degree or some programing diploma from community college or technical school. CEAB must not be enforcing this at all. It must be really shitty for people who go through a four year serious business engineering program to get lumped in with all the other SEs.

>> No.5504638

CompSci is an actual field of study, whereas SoftEng is a vocation. If you're interested in the topic, go CompSci. If you just want a job... CompSci probably gives you the same (if not better) prospects, provided you're not a dunce.

>>5504568
Though, to be fair, SoftEng degrees are as valid (for their field) as ElecEng, CivEng, MechEng, ChemEng, etc.. There is some actual academic content in there, which is what things like "audio engineer", "sanitation engineer", "train engineer", lack. It's just that the other forms of actual engineering, are much better.

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I like the salaries and constant rise in employment for software engineers.

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>>5504467
>comp /sci/
Now get the fuck back to /g/.

>> No.5505204

>>5504630
>Also there's no Vector Calc, ODEs, PDEs, Real analysis, Complex analysis
This shit is not needed for the average CS job.

>> No.5505247

>>5504467
CompSci major here. Disregard all the buttmad trolls ITT.

Computer Science is for everything more "technical", "theoretical" while Software Engineering is doing programming work in a company, databases, networks, etc.

In reality CS and SE used to be one field, so every decent CS will be able to write good code, while every decent SE will also have an understanding of statistics, complexity theory, etc. You will see people who studied before this recent split call themselves all sorts of names, like CS/SE/Software Developer/Programmer/whatevernot.

SE will get you a stable, well paying job, and you will spend the rest of your life fine-tuning your skills. CS will let you figure out better algortihms for search engines, face recognition software, "intelligent" vacuum cleaners and so forth.