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Why does no one respect a biology major?
Doesn't matter if it is molecular biology or general biology.

>> No.5435128

>>5435122
>why are engineers gay?

>> No.5435127

Because this board is made up of cunt high schoolers and undergrads who don't even understand the discipline they claim is better than Biology, let alone Biology itself.

>> No.5435129

In general Biology lacks math and is for the most part conceptual. So most people view biology as science for scientists that can't do math.

>> No.5435130

>>5435129
Math =/= Science

>> No.5435131

>>5435128
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/12/11/scientists-may-have-finally-unlocked-puzzle-of-why-people-are-gay

The funny thing is non of that math had anything to do with the discovery of what makes people gay. It is just there because engineers like math.

>> No.5435135

>>5435127
This.

>> No.5435137

>>5435129
But you use a lot of math in biology, granted most of the time you don't have to go past the most basic of calculus.

>> No.5435138

>>5435130
I never said it was. All I said was Biology lacks quantitative reasoning, which is why people look down on it.

>> No.5435140

>>5435138
>Biology lacks quantitative reasoning
You are wrong.

>> No.5435144

elitism

>> No.5435145

>>5435140
*compared to hard sciences, like physics or chemistry*

>> No.5435149

>>5435138
It is because we haven't invented a math that is capable of properly describing biological concepts. Further more biology is limited by technology, so we know very little because we don't have the proper instruments to observer everything that goes on in a signal cell.

>> No.5435151

>>5435137
sciences that lack higher level math inevitably attract people who simply can't do higher level math.

>> No.5435155

>>5435151

There are plenty of people earning Philosophy degrees who can handle high level math ok.

See some people do this thing called pursuing one's interests. People don't always do the thing they're best at. They don't even always find out what they're best at.

>> No.5435156

Biology has just enough math to have the predictability/consistency of chemistry and physics without the hand-waviness of psychology and sociology.

>> No.5435165

>>5435151
that is not true at all, there are many times where a biologist/doctor will work with a mathematician to analyze data, but this is very high end stuff

>> No.5435166

I respect you.

>> No.5435172

>>5435155
I am well aware of that. I'm not saying everyone who goes into biology can't do high level math, but there is going to be a lot of people who go into biology because they can't do high level math and biology doesn't require them to.

>> No.5435177

>>5435156
... that is not correct at all.
Biology is not a social science, it studies the natural world and not the social world. It deals with hard wired mechanisms and not statistics and anecdotal evidence.

>> No.5435184

>>5435177
I don't think you read what the guy posted right.

>> No.5435188

>>5435177

I never said biology was a social science. I was implying that the math it has separates it from them.

>> No.5435189

>>5435122
Because the only hard biology is mathematical biology, and that's because the math is hard

>> No.5435194

>>5435177
You are agreeing with the post you replied to.
Try re-reading that post.

>> No.5435195

>>5435184
it is not what his post said it was what it implied. he implied that biology was barely a hard science by comparing it to social sciences.

>> No.5435197

Wait? Who doesn't respect Biology?

>> No.5435201

>>5435197
You must be new here

>> No.5435207

>>5435197
most engineers, but who cares about their opinions? they're just human calculators

>> No.5435206

>>5435197
Engineers.

>> No.5435221

>>5435197
most engineers, but who cares about their opinions? they're just human calculators

>> No.5435223

>>5435206
>>5435207
>>5435221
Really? Why?

>> No.5435224

>>5435172
>I am well aware of that. I'm not saying everyone who goes into biology can't do high level math, but there is going to be a lot of people who go into biology because they can't do high level math and biology doesn't require them to.

There are people in many areas of study who can't handle things in other areas of study. What does that prove?

You're better than them because you can handle "high level" math?

The fact that you're posting on this board means there's a relatively high probability you can't handle basic social interaction. But even then, I'm not insulting you. It's a personal deficiency like any other.

And fwiw, I can handle fairly high level math so I'm not just trying to boost my self esteem here.

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5435226

>tfw you already waste 5 years in university to reach general biology when you should go straight into marine biology, the best biology.

>mfw life 2spooky4u

>> No.5435239

Highest paper retraction rate

>> No.5435242

>>5435122
as a major, biology doesn't really mean much (this is coming from a biology major).

You can't really do all that much with just a bio major, but it's a nice stepping stone into masters, and phds, and other stuff though.

>> No.5435246

>>5435242
this is true of most majors.
A bachelors in physics, math, or chemistry really doesn't mean much either.

>> No.5435248

>>5435246
A Chem of Physics degree gets you slightly farther. Particularly chem.

>> No.5435252

>>5435129

No, high school biology lacks math. Real bio requires some math. It's not terribly complicated, but neither is the math you do in chemistry.

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5435254

Who cares if people respect your major or not, do what you want to do you beta faggot

>> No.5435255

>>5435122
stamp collecting

>> No.5435256

>>5435246
math, physics, and chem, just the bachelors do get you a bit further than just a bio major imo.

>> No.5435262

biology is just physics slowed with trees on top.

>> No.5435267

>>5435255
>For some time beforehand, Rutherford had a small hernia, which he had neglected to have fixed, and it became strangulated, causing him to be violently ill. Despite an emergency operation in London, he died four days afterwards of what physicians termed "intestinal paralysis", at Cambridge.

Good, he died a fitting death.

>> No.5435272

>>5435248
>>5435256
Not really, you can be a high school teacher or a code monkey, but not much else.

>> No.5435283

>>5435255
Look up Carl Woese, the guy in OP's picture.

>> No.5435289

CS 234 Computational Methods for Biomolecular Data

A study of computational and statistical methods aimed at automatically analyzing, clustering, and classifying biomolecular data. Includes combinatorial algorithms for pattern discovery; hidden Markov models for sequence analysis; analysis of expression data; and prediction of the three-dimensional structure of RNA and proteins.

A "bio" class (crosslisted) that requires at least some modicum of quantitative reasoning, imo. :(

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5435632

>Dawkins is a biologist.
>/sci/ loves dawkins.
>/sci/ hates biology.
>mfw