Could humans adapt to an ocean planet?

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Could humans adapt to an ocean planet? Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:25:29 2013 No.5412846 [Reply] [Original]

Discuss.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:25:58 2013 No.5412847 >>5412846 yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:31:13 2013 No.5412855 >dat pic Why are the rings blue?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:32:14 2013 No.5412858 >>5412855 becoz Kevin Costner

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:42:14 2013 No.5412868 >>5412855 ... Maybe the water got sucked into the gravitational pull of the rings, therefore blue rings...?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:43:13 2013 No.5412871 >>5412868 water is clear.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:43:29 2013 No.5412872

>>5412846
Well considering our planet is mainly ocean, and we live on the little bit of land that is on this planet, no. Given enough time we could adapt but if we were dropped on some planet with basically only water everyone would drown. No one would magically grow gills or some bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:46:43 2013 No.5412877 >>5412871 Uh.. uh... It's a collection of millions of tiny flying water bears. >>5412872 Is it not possible to eventually grow gills after several thousands of years of swimming?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:47:58 2013 No.5412880 >>5412871 Water is blue in large enough quantities. I wonder if the rings were the same thickness as Saturn's (10metres or so) whether they'd appear clear of blue...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:48:29 2013 No.5412883 >>5412877 So you're able to tread water long enough to live your entire life? You're a fucking imbecile.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:49:28 2013 No.5412886 I wouldn't think so. It's not like we can weed out humans until we evolve gills. We'd have to do genetic engineering, or possibly mess with... those genome tags, whatever they're called (I'm drawing a blank).

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 03:57:58 2013 No.5412897

>>5412883
Let's say there were two small islands on this ocean planet and we had to continually swim across a large proportion of the ocean to get to the other island. Now imagine this happening for a couple hundred thousand years, would we not develop gills?

Scifriend !/AhWyw3toI Sat Jan 5 04:00:43 2013 No.5412902

Initially the challenge would be landing seaworthy habitats from orbit. After that, provided we can source minerals from the seabed using ROVs to weight the habs down and they included ballast tanks, they could sink and then maintain depth at an ideal level just below the influence of storms but not so deep that pressure poses any physiological issues.

Continue sending habitats and link them module by module the same way we built the ISS, but as a neutral buoyancy 'hovering' underwater living space. This would be the safest and most convenient place to locate humans on such a hypothetical planet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:02:58 2013 No.5412903 >>5412897 see >>5412886 And no, we would make boats build bridges not inhabit the planet. Also, why would we send regular humans to an entirely water planet? You'd think that we would develop Mermen before travelling to such a planet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:02:58 2013 No.5412905 >>5412897 no

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:04:13 2013 No.5412907 >>5412897 No, we would invent some kind of a "boat" device. I know it sounds far fetched, but it's still possible. Evolution does not work that way.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:09:58 2013 No.5412911

>>5412903
What if there was an extreme lack of wood to even build one raft?

Let's just imagine that this ocean planet was the only somewhat habitable planet for humanities survival after Earth collided with a destructive meteorite. I'm assuming it might be possible to adapt to an ocean planet, be it just a small group of 10 people.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:11:13 2013 No.5412917
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http://www.hydronaut.eu/index.php/hydronaut

Anyone else see this? ESA aka Yuropoor NASA is building a huge underwater lab. It's 2 story and the size of a typical house. It has the same cupola on it as the ISS, and a place to raise chickens because Yuros cannot live without chickens.

On the one hand they have no real presence in space, but on the other I don't think Murrica has an underwater lab anymore as of last month and this one will be bigger than that by 2 or 3 times.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:11:44 2013 No.5412915

>>5412897
If you want humans to develop gills you would have to take a more active approach.
Take all the people on that island throw them in the water and kill the first ones that come up for air. Kill like half the population and let the rest breed. Continue doing this for a few milion years and you will have humans that can stay underwater for a very long time and maybe gills, but I'm not to sure of that.

Scifriend !/AhWyw3toI Sat Jan 5 04:16:58 2013 No.5412920

>>5412915

...Uh...Are you sincerely proposing we forego the use of genetic engineering and instead attempt to produce gilled humans by way of eugenics? For what possible reason? Because it's better to do it a thousand times more slowly and in a way that involves murdering people?

Gills cannot meet our metabolic needs. We use way more oxygen than fish, the gill surface area would have to be larger than our entire bodies. There's a reason dolphins don't have gills. We'd adopt the same approach, probably through a combination of synthetic blood that can carry many times more oxygen and an implanted liquid oxygen tank and CO2 absorber/outgasser that could add oxygen to and remove CO2 from our blood, directly, for as long as the stored oxygen held out.

Seriously why even consider eugenics when genetic engineering exists? Why do so many here have a boner for it when it's the worst idea ever now that the first GM babies have been born?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:19:58 2013 No.5412924 >>5412920 Okay, I'm going to genetically modify my baby to have gills.

Scifriend !/AhWyw3toI Sat Jan 5 04:22:43 2013 No.5412927

>>5412924

Gills will not work for humans. There's a good practical reason why no marine mammals have them. If we want to modify people to spend more time in water it'll involve copying the adaptations in marine mammals that allow them to hold their breath for long periods while remaining active.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:42:28 2013 No.5412965 Can we all agree this would never work?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:43:58 2013 No.5412968 >>5412965 No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:45:43 2013 No.5412969 >>5412968 ... We could enhance the capacity of our lungs to take in more air to survive longer underwater?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:47:13 2013 No.5412972 File: 139 KB, 1134x799, 1357360776029.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5412969 But I'm focusing on a minor issue, THIS is our real problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:47:44 2013 No.5412974 File: 77 KB, 1920x1200, 1357360830209.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5412972 Come on /sci/, use your brain power to over-come this.

Scifriend !/AhWyw3toI Sat Jan 5 04:49:28 2013 No.5412978

>>5412969

Our blood, specifically. It's like nobody reads my posts.

>>5412972

Our own ecosystem can only support two predators on that scale, whales and giant squid. There's several species of either but only two niches at that level of the ecosystem that it can support. Perhaps there would be more in a larger ocean.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:50:14 2013 No.5412982 File: 1.05 MB, 1313x1200, 1357360863859.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5412974 That's right, you can't do shit. Your years of studying theoretical physics and mechanics all gone to waste.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:52:58 2013 No.5412985 File: 872 KB, 1920x1200, 1357361115656.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5412982 Gone to waste only to rot deep inside primitive marine creatures.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:54:28 2013 No.5412986 >>5412985 >>5412982 We get it, you have a vore fetish.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 04:58:58 2013 No.5412990 File: 52 KB, 900x658, 1357361163121.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5412986 No, YOU don't get it. You can not fathom the amount of potential energy and information gone into exile by these non-intellectual creatures.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:05:13 2013 No.5412998 there is an invention called ship

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:08:29 2013 No.5413005 >>5412998 How do you get a ship large enough to live on and to stably ride out storms from orbit to the ocean surface?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:12:13 2013 No.5413011 >>5413005 submarines

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:14:14 2013 No.5413013 >>5413005 build it like a gyroball

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:15:29 2013 No.5413015

>>5413011

Submarines are huge and heavy as fuck, they need to be in order to stay underwater with all that air inside. You could send small sections one at a time: >>5412902
but what they combine into wouldn't properly be a submarine, just the best we can do considering everything we send needs to be within a maximum size and weight limit.

The end result might be mobile but slow. It would closely resemble the ISS though, not a modern nuclear submarine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:18:43 2013 No.5413019 File: 1.53 MB, 1920x1080, 1357361288116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5412998 >>5413011 >>5413013 >>5413015 >Thinking short-term solutions >/sci/ >2013

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:18:59 2013 No.5413020 >>5413015 it can be much lighter because it doesnt have to dive that deep and doesnt have to withstand attacks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:20:58 2013 No.5413023 >>5413019 >long term solution >not simply terraforming

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:24:29 2013 No.5413028

>>5413020

The amount of weight needed to sink at all is constant regardless of what depth you want to sink to. 64 pounds of weight per cubic foot of air, and that's just to zero out buoyancy, you need ballast tanks and slightly more weight so you can regulate how positively or negatively buoyant you are.

Of course you can also use sand. It makes decent weight material, and it can be sourced from the planet, harvested up from the seabed via suction tube instead of having to take it with you from Earth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:31:29 2013 No.5413036 >>5413028 dependin g on how much metal is solved in the ocean you could use electrode nets to collect it and use it build new ships.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:33:13 2013 No.5413041 Fuck it, I'm going to build myself an underwater laboratory + an attached nuclear submarine in Minecraft. Through my careful planning/observation/experiments I will guide us all into a new era of under-water lifestyles.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:33:58 2013 No.5413040

>>5413036

As a thought experiment. In practice probably not. We've never even done that on Earth. What's possible in terms of physics is different from what we have the technological means to do irl.

I think if we ever did that, it'd be because we already sent thousands of modules, such that the on site infrastructure is sufficient for that kind of high level manufacturing.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:37:29 2013 No.5413044
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>>5413041
>Fuck it, I'm going to build myself an underwater laboratory + an attached nuclear submarine in Minecraft.

You and everyone else. That's the only challenging and fun thing left to do in MC. Too bad there aren't mini subs that can be piloted, like the boats. Being able to come and go from various bases like this one, traveling that whole distance without surfacing, would be p. cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:38:29 2013 No.5413045 >>5413040 the alternative would be mining it from the sea ground which might be 20km deep or transporting it with a spaceship. so it might be worth the effort if you had a fission reactor anyway

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:45:58 2013 No.5413053 >>5413019 >>5412990 >>5412985 >>5412982 >>5412974 >>5412972 If something that big ate you, you could just go live inside it, like Jonah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:46:44 2013 No.5413055 File: 343 KB, 1164x3700, sea.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TOUCHED THE BOTTOM YET?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:49:28 2013 No.5413056 >>5413015 You do forget the entire fact of having the ability to take water inside to weigh it down. Also, anchor chains. Pulling yourself down.

I has qeustion Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:49:58 2013 No.5413058
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Why is everyone here, and on /v/, so gay for underwater technology? I won't pretend to know anything about the ocean, I have never really been interested enough to read about it but logically there's nothing down there but rocks and shit, right? Space has spaceplanes, rockets, lasers, robots, pressurized human colonies, huge nuclear warships like in EVE, and intelligent aliens who could revolutionize our knowledge, and might have hot females who can breed with humans (Asari especially, from Mass Effect. Or catgirls from Avatar) and we could be fighting aliens on a ringworld in powered armor ala Halo, wouldn't you rather have that epic shit? Ocean can't compete, realisticly it's just rocks and fish, in darkness with loads of pressure. Based on what I've seen from movies and games that deal with plausible space technology it's just way more potential and excitement than under the ocean. Am I missing something? If so what? Or does nobody else realize all ^^^ this?

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:53:14 2013 No.5413060

>>5413058

I am fucking space gay, instacum wet for everything you just discribed and fuck all dont forget the mech warriors but damn son. We aint be alive by that time.

Dont get me wrong but we're currently stuck with shit economy, nigger for president, crimerate what the fuck and morbedly obese mac donalds huggers and hipster shits.

>Sorry for dem leet spellingz

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:54:14 2013 No.5413061

>>5413056
>You do forget the entire fact of having the ability to take water inside to weigh it down.

Water doesn't weight anything in water. It cannot by itself be used to weigh down a submarine or submersible structure.

>Also, anchor chains. Pulling yourself down.

Possibly, but what do those chains attach to? How are they secured to the seafloor? And why chains, more likely high tensile cable like the type used for suspension bridges, no? This is definitely viable don't get me wrong but the problem of driving a stake or some similar method of securing the cable deep into the seabed and in a way that will hold down hundreds or thousands of tons of upward buoyant force is not trivial.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 05:58:14 2013 No.5413067

>>5413061

You're looking at moving everything at once, cut it down. We can have workers preparing everything long before the actual hubs are ready in fabrication.

The first version of everything is always gay. We tend to let out next generations make solutions for it. Like with current asfalt, old bridges, dams, shit like that.

Also, we could when submerged use some sort of propulsion system to shoot us down.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:00:29 2013 No.5413070
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>>5413058

Well, your first problem is that you're comparing a sensationalized science fiction version of space to the irl ocean.

Compare scifi ocean stuff like Aquanox to irl space accomplishments and it turns around. Or hell, irl ocean exploration accomplishments compared to what we've done in space.

Pic is some weird ass thing we found in the ocean. Please reply with a picture of weird life found in spa-oh right nevermind

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:02:30 2013 No.5413074 >>5413070 >Stars and shit I recon we >SHOULD first live underwater before space exploration because the two are so fucking simular. We could learn a big dig with bieng under water.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:05:30 2013 No.5413076

>>5413060
>I am fucking space gay, instacum wet for everything you just discribed and fuck all dont forget the mech warriors but damn son. We aint be alive by that time.

For me that's part of it, better or worse we were born in the era of ocean science. With the role it plays in the climate we'll inevitably fund it more, and every sensible capitalist has already begun setting up farms and mines and shit down there. I've even seen plans for fully submerged oil rigs, to avoid hurricanes.

The other thing is, all the stuff he listed that makes you instacum actually exists inna ocean:

>spaceplanes
Hydrobatic winged subs
> rockets
Supercav torpedos
>lasers
Subs and ROVs use lasers to provide size reference in footage
>robots
ROVs, AUVs
>pressurized human colonies
Sealabs
>huge nuclear warships like in EVE
Nuclear subs
>and intelligent aliens who could revolutionize our knowledge
Dolphins, kind of.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:08:15 2013 No.5413080

>>5413074
>first live underwater before space exploration because the two are so fucking simular. We could learn a big dig with bieng under water.

We're already doing that. Not much to learn anything in particular since we have 50 years of data about living in the ocean but because it accelerates life support, pressure hull/suit, propulsion and energy storage tech the same way military applications accelerated rocketry.

Also because it's the best method so far to train astronauts since if you're saturated you will actually die if you try to leave the 'sim' area, i.e. surface, so all the systems in your lab or sub or whatever are legitimately mission critical.

Too bad ESA is investing in this big time >>5412917
while we're pulling out of it completely. How can they afford it when we can't?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:09:15 2013 No.5413081 >>5413076 Don't forget the really deep marine creatures that are 400x the size of a human.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:12:43 2013 No.5413086 >>5413081 The what.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:14:58 2013 No.5413092 is it possible that there is no wind at the poles?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:16:43 2013 No.5413094 File: 173 KB, 1920x1080, 1357361479302.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5413086 Oh sorry, I meant to correct that. Two billion* times the size of an average joehumon-umerikanbeiging

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:16:43 2013 No.5413095 >>5413058 >Why is everyone here, and on /v/, so gay for underwater technology? Because it's accessible and a sorta substitute for exploring other planets. It's like settling for a 6/10 gf instead of the one you really wanted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:17:13 2013 No.5413096 >>5413092 No, because science.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:19:44 2013 No.5413103 >>5413096 and if one of the poles points directly towards the sun?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:20:29 2013 No.5413105 >>5413103 and does not rotate

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:21:28 2013 No.5413106 >>5413096 and if it doesnt rotate?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:21:44 2013 No.5413107 <span class="deadlink">>>5413105[/spoiler] Light will travel through it, nothing else. Also I have no idea what either of us are talking about. Talk to a professional, here take my card.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:22:43 2013 No.5413108
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>>5413095

Within our own solar system, the most promising location to find life is the oceans of Europa. We'll use oceanic technology to explore it. Space travel is just how we get there, ocean exploration is the point of the trip.

Even on habitable exoplanets we'll just wind up industrializing it's ocean for the same reasons we did on Earth; It's a huge almost inexhaustible (until you get up to 10 billion humans) source of food, minerals and energy.

We evolved on a terraqueous planet, we're a terraqueous species. We'll keep doing this shit no matter what planet it's on. Space isn't a substitute for ocean explo, it's how we find and reach new oceans to explore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:24:58 2013 No.5413109 >>5413108 You've used this copypasta before, and it's not going to work. You just can't make people excited about finding new kinds of starfish, no matter how weird they are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:25:59 2013 No.5413111 >>5413092 not sure if trolling Hairy Ball theorem -> Cyclone Consequences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairy_ball_theorem

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:26:59 2013 No.5413112 >>5413109 Iv'e seen some pretty fucked up shit down there, even I don't want to remember how it looks... Those god-damn tentacles entering that little lolita school girl :3... God... I'll never forget it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:26:59 2013 No.5413113 >>5413109 >You just can't make people excited about finding new kinds of starfish, no matter how weird they are. Unless they're alien starfish. Now THAT would be extremely fucking cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:27:58 2013 No.5413116 >>5413111 What's hairy ball theorem? Couldn't they have chosen a better name?

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:30:14 2013 No.5413118

>>5413108

I never knew that comic had a third panel. It was always so depressing for me, but holy shit, panel 3 changes my entire perspective on the matter.

Anyone recommend a good starting place to research what's the coolest stuff we've found in the ocean? How advanced is submarine technology? I have a sudden itch to read about this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:32:13 2013 No.5413125 File: 45 KB, 500x375, cameronsub.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5413118 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM0TaG4sYfE Welcome to the seabro cult, initiate. You're at level 0. At level 10 you get dolphin concubines.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:32:29 2013 No.5413126 >>5413118 We've found megaledon. We've only mapped like 10% of the ocean so who knows what's down there?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:34:14 2013 No.5413129 >>5413118 Back away now, bro. If you become a seabro, you'll turn into a tiresome windbag who hijacks conversations about space and tries to drum up enthusiasm for classifying fish.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:35:13 2013 No.5413131
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>>5413126

Yeah but when I was a kid that number was 2%. Someday we'll have explored it all. We'll know every last thing that lives there and there will be no more mystery to uncover.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:36:43 2013 No.5413132 >>5413129 But this conversation is about colonizing an ocean planet.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:43:13 2013 No.5413137
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>>5413129

I am as indifferent to some new species of fish as you. But the tech itself is fascinating. Look at this: >>5413125

We don't have any spaceships like that. We have nothing in space on the scale of a nuke sub. And the deep dark scary factory is cool too.

I'm not going off the deep end here (hurr) space will always be my first love. But variety is the spice of life, this is something new to sink my teeth into and sperg over. Can't hurt to learn new things. Besides somebody gotta find dose snibetis.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:45:13 2013 No.5413138 >>5413111 what about the center of the cyclone?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 06:50:58 2013 No.5413144 >>5413005 make it intelligently adapt its shape to the sea surface and harvest wave energy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 07:19:13 2013 No.5413160 File: 10 KB, 284x284, pacific.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > Could humans adapt to an ocean planet? 71% of Earth surface is water Earth is an ocean planet Humans have adapted

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 07:39:28 2013 No.5413177 >>5412846 >Could humans adapt to an ocean planet? Depends, if gigapredators live there already it would be pretty hairy.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 10:44:11 2013 No.5413458

Adapt, no. Small scale colonization on floating cities, powered and funded by large scale underwater mining operations. That's probably the only thing an ocean planet would be worthy. For large scale colonization, better find a more earth like candidate, or maybe even a cold, lifeless rock that happens possess a magnetic field (no need to deal with crushing pressures of the ocean bottom at 5-50 miles depth).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 10:45:40 2013 No.5413460 >>5413160 I believe he was meaning an ocean planet as in 100% covered in ocean.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 10:47:40 2013 No.5413461 >>5412855 they are made of burning lead

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 10:49:41 2013 No.5413463 File: 925 KB, 1274x1022, 1354950276802.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5412880 >Water is blue in large enough quantities.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 10:50:25 2013 No.5413467 >>5413108 the deep is soooo boring

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 11:26:40 2013 No.5413517 >>5413144 well you need platforms and grow mediums, possibly chemical harvesting of necessary minerals.

Anonymous Sat Jan 5 12:13:25 2013 No.5413616

Guys, you're not being organized, Jesus Christ.

Our options:

>We somehow find a way to enhance our blood to increase the capacity of air it contains. We could do the same with our lungs. We swim around eventually adapting to the ocean. But we need at least an island and some resources to stay alive.

>We bring materials and resources from Earth. We build some sort of underwater base able to withstand strong pressures. We grow crops, fish,live in these under-water bases. If we want to travel we use submarines, it's not that hard.

We use resources from Earth. We find a way to stay afloat on-top of the ocean, using some sort of a huge ship-like mechanism to house ourselves. This solves the travelling, housing and food issues.

What's it going to be?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 12:14:40 2013 No.5413620 Well considering the fact that we can't breathe under water and evolving to an underground species is basically impossible I'd say no.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 12:20:41 2013 No.5413638 >>5412846 yes. With Al Gore to guide us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 12:20:55 2013 No.5413639 File: 49 KB, 640x452, watopt.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5413463 Water's blue, dawg.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 5 12:21:10 2013 No.5413640 >>5413463 Water is blue, retard.

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