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>Higher scores for IQ in childhood are associated with an increased likelihood of being a vegetarian as an adult
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1790759/

Are you going to deny science, /sci/?
Why aren't you vegetarian yet?
It's the rational thing to do.

>> No.5399194

I like the taste of meat.

>> No.5399195

Causation, correlation, etc

>> No.5399199

>>5399195
This.

>> No.5399200

Humans need meat to live healthily,just waiting for the dawn of cheap synthetic foods

Plus fuck living without bacon

>> No.5399206

>Are you going to deny science, /sci/?
No.
>Why aren't you vegetarian yet?
I'm a weak-willed faggot.
>It's the rational thing to do.
I know.

>> No.5399208

>>5399182
I only eat organic meat (because the US's meats are disgusting, watch Food, Inc.), so I'm vegetarian 75% of the time (no organic meat in college).
Also, becoming vegetarian wouldn't change your IQ, so there isn't a ton of incentive to go totally vegetarian.
Also, bacon.

>> No.5399213

Having a high IQ doesn't mean you are more likely to be right

>> No.5399214

>>5399200
Aren't morals more important than pleasure?
Since morals are the basis of civilization.
And civilization is required to minimize pain and chaos overall.
Here we're concerned with the pain of billions of sentient beings, tortured and slaughtered every year without anesthetics. This is both cruel and barbaric.

Maybe some African countries need the cattle meat to survive, but here we have the luxury of choice.

And about healthiness:
>There is convincing evidence that vegetarians have lower rates of coronary heart disease, largely explained by low LDL cholesterol, probable lower rates of hypertension and diabetes mellitus, and lower prevalence of obesity. Overall, their cancer rates appear to be moderately lower than others living in the same communities, and life expectancy appears to be greater.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/89/5/1607S.short
Are you going to deny science?

>> No.5399215

>>5399214
Meat is a part of a balanced meal. I can cite several sources, journals and studies that agree with me, but I won't because it's common knowledge.

>> No.5399219

>>5399214
>vegetarians have lower rates of coronary heart disease
I'll take my chances. I won't renounce on the high calories and proteins provided by meat. This thing basically makes you build muscles without doing shit.
>inb4 pic of muscle vegetarian nigger

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>>5399215
What does "balanced" means when people live vegetarians all their life totally fine and there are even vegetarian bodylifters / models? For example Brad Pitt is vegan, does he look unhealthy?
Even if these superstitious tales were true, the effect has to be marginal.
You'd get more healthiness doing the exercises many don't bother with.

So it seems to me people are using healthiness as an excuse for pleasure and stagnation.

>> No.5399221

>>5399219
also have you ever tried eating your fill with vegetables? Even poultry or fish can't cut it man.
The only compensation is bread, and I'm not getting fat for that.

>> No.5399223

>>5399220
>Brad Pitt

he's also a retard.

>> No.5399225

>>5399182
YEAH BECAUSE CORRELATION IMPLIES CAUSATION

RIGHT?

RIGHT?

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5399226

Q: Why are so many vegetarians mentally unstable?
A: Wrong diet, imbalanced brain chemistry.

search?q=lierre+keith+the+vegetarian+myth

Research debunks the IQ myth

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-12/uowo-wur121712.php

>> No.5399229

>not growing your own meat in the lab

plebs

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>>5399225
You seem upset. It's like I'm tickling the truth or something.
Every time you eat a steak I'll be here, judging your sins.

>> No.5399246

>>5399226
What is the eurekalert link supposed to imply?
It's going to take more than a 10 days old non-peer-reviewed study to debunk IQ.
And online studies can be abused. They are themselves surprised of having 100000 participants.

Also "the vegetarian myth" is not a study but a book written by a nobody.
>Lierre Keith does not have formal credentials or experience in the diverse topics she writes about in “The Vegetarian Myth”. The authors of the reviews linked to below do, and the gist of their reviews is that she has gotten even the basic facts of those subjects wrong, let alone her much more stronger claims.
So I'm not convinced. I prefer research papers.

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Anyway, I have to go.
Hopefully some of you will see the light.

Take care of your animal friends.
They just want to live a decent life.

>> No.5399258

>>5399253
no they don't.
>>5399247
most accurate pic on 4chan right now

>> No.5399270

why did you make this exact same thread on /pol/, op?

>> No.5399297

>you are what you eat
OP is a kind of vegetable.

>> No.5399330

>>5399182
>People with lower IQ scores more susceptible to religion, vegetarian is a belief.

Meat eaters - 1

Veges - 0

>> No.5399334

>>5399182
>Why aren't you vegetarian yet?
I lack the self-discipline.

>> No.5399358

>>5399297

And we are sheep.

>> No.5399411

>>5399358
I like to think of myself as a capable piece of meat.

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5399417

>>5399182
>tfw 132 IQ Stanford-Binet
>tfw I'm vociferously against vegetarians and fucking love meat

>> No.5399427

>>5399417
>132

lol pleb

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>>5399223
/sci/ - logical fallacies

>> No.5399461

>>5399417
>132 IQ

Was that supposed to be impressive?

As far as ideal diets, I see them as something which will always be individualized if not for genetic factors then for desired outcomes.

>> No.5399470

>>5399427
>>5399461
>Was that supposed to be impressive?
No, just factual...

I'm hardly embarrassed by a metric that puts me into a category of humans of which only 2% of all beings are apart of.

>> No.5399477

All I'm reading is that with higher IQ comes more empathy towards animals.

Higher IQ means you're a pussy.

>> No.5399515

>>5399358
No, we are predators, ie. indifferent to OP.

>> No.5399541

I admit there are not any good reasons to eat meat, but I kinda have a special case. I already have eating problems and my parents don't really feed me properly. If I became a vegetarian it would fuck my eating up ten fold. But hopefully I'll move out soon and never have to see those fuckers again. Then I'll become a vegetarian.

>> No.5399542

>>5399195
but thru the evidence of reason it is reasonable to assume that your nutrition impacts healthy development of brain, which is central to one's intelligence.

>> No.5399553

>>5399541
I also waited to get my own place to be vegetarian.
I didn't want to annoy everyone with my morals.

>> No.5399592

>>5399553
That's why I didn't stop molesting children until I had my own place.

>> No.5399659

>>5399182

I have been vegetarian for just short off three years now... Feels pretty good mainly because i am not retarded and have a fairly good idea of how nutrition works.

You would not believe the number of retarded people I have meet through vegetarian gatherings (Free food, Don't hate me sci). I mean some of these people are throwing away whatever health benefits they get by eating some ridiculous diets, I am surprised most of them made it to university.

Then again I am surprise that half the people at my university made it to university

>> No.5399679

I still don't see why so many people are butthurt about diets. Just eat whatever you're comfortable with, and whatever seems most healthy. Forcing diets onto others is stupid as shit.

I switched to a vegetarian diet about a year and a half ago, but recently switched to a bit more flexible diet (I won't refuse fish/meat if someone has cooked me a meal, or when I want to try a local specialty when abroad, for instance). Though I wouldn't mind seeing others reduce their fish/meat consumption (not too much, since we probably need animals for leather and other stuff anyway), I honestly don't give two shits about what people do with their diet, as long as they're happy with it.

Now go have your steak or block of tofu or whatever you like.

>> No.5400203

>>5399182
>Are you going to deny science, /sci/?
Since when sociology has been a field of science?

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>>5399182
I have never seen a vegitarian(my phone autocorrected vegitarian to Croatian) that didn't look sickly as fuck.

>>5399200
What good are your morals when you can't defend your family from a random mugger? Sure if people weren't such pussies about guns strength would be a non issue....but people are pussies so now your wife is getting raped in front of you because decided to be a weak vegetarianfag.

FURTHERMORE: did you know that more mice and insects are killed producing the plant equivalent of a cow than the number of chores killed to make 1 cow worth of beef? Why are cows more important than mice or bugs?

>> No.5400257

Been a vegetarian for 11 years now. Feels good man.

>> No.5400258

>>5399182
>IQ
>Intelligence

Pick 1.

>> No.5400269

Blacks aren't vegetarians, therefore this result

>> No.5400288

Whats wrong with eating animals as long as they are killed humanely? They are not sapient, they dont even care.

>> No.5400291 [DELETED] 

>>5400288
>Whats wrong with eating human as long as they are killed humanely? They are not sapient, they dont even care.

I bet you believe in God, you heartless bastard.

>> No.5400727

>Implying vegetarians are smarter
similar to
>psuedo-science tailor made to support your thesis.

>> No.5400741

>>5399542

Yes, but this IQ is measured when they're children whereas whether or not they are vegetarian is measured when they are adults. So for all you know their diet is exactly the same while the brain is developing.

Perhaps the more important point; You have no evidence which is better for the development of the brain, meat or vegetarian.

>> No.5400746

Higher scores for IQ in childhood are associated with increased likelihood of having blue eyes as an adult.

I have blue eyes.

Therefore I win at life.

>> No.5400753

>>5400746
i think hitler tried that approach...

>> No.5400764

>hurr durr i eat all my greens

I'd forcefully shove meat down your throats until you understood the role it played in the developing of the human brain. If real men's men didn't start puting meat in their diet, you fuckers would all be leaving your caves to go foraging for dirty roots now, instead of arguing over it on /sci/

>> No.5402437

>>5399182
Vegitarianism is for pussies

Cannibalism.

>> No.5402451

>>5402437
Cannibalism is for pussies

Photosynthesis.

>> No.5402449

http://www.thestar.com/living/article/1304289--iq-a-myth-study-says

>> No.5402499

>>5399214

>Argues about making billions of sentient beings suffer "pain" for "pleasure" is immoral
>Doesn't realize it would be far more efficient to instead reduce the human population

Since you think it's okay to cut down "pleasure" in the pursuit of "morals", why don't we just stop the "pleasure" of niggers copulating for pleasure? Of course, I'm sure you'd be of the opinion that some niggers should be allowed to copulate, but only if they are both in agreement they want to make Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Think of all the fucking chickens that would be saved due to KFC eventually going out of business.

>And civilization is required to minimize pain and chaos overall.

What a bunch of hocus pocus bullshit. Could you make any more of a pseudo-philosophical and vague statement?

>> No.5402577

Probably because their souls got to nirvana faster than yours by being extra smarter u mad?