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What would happen to a warp-drive propelled ship if it encountered dust or some other debris?

>> No.5351137

WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR CAR WHEN IT RUNS INTO A FEATHER?

>> No.5351139

>>5351137
It's not the same thing, yo. My car doesn't warp fucking space.

In b4 it does, it doesn't do so on a macroscopic level.

>> No.5351141 [DELETED] 

You'd have to define the properties of warp drive/ship for us to make some sort of valid answer. Without those, I can say anything about the state the warpdrive on the ship.

>> No.5351143

Space is collapsing in front of the ship and expanding on the rear.

So some might suggest it moves harmlessly around the ship, because the ship is not within regular space, because it's violating the theory of relativity. And thus may even be able to exist in the same space as the non warping matter.

But the more likely answer is that it will rip the hull to shreds by punching fist sized holes through the ship and anyone inside it.

>> No.5351144

>>5351123
if you mean Alcubierre drive then you are thinking about it wrong

>> No.5351148

>>5351141
The alcubierre model seems like a good starting point.

>> No.5351153

>>5351144
Please explain.

>> No.5351154

>>5351139
>100 score, 2^3 + 2^2 years since the birth of babby jeezus
>still drives car that can't travels in front of light speed
>SHIGGY DIFFGY DOO YO!

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>>5351154
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>> No.5351160

To avoid upsetting the sperglords, just suppose that it's moving at sub-light speed. Suppose the warp bubble is moving at about .1c.

A quick intuitive guess suggests that no time dilation in the bubble = no true kinetic energy.

There is no collision. If anything the dust moves smoothly around the side, or more likely accumulates in the front of the warp bubble. Not sure how you're supposed to dump it.

>> No.5351166

>>5351160
So by this logic it's perfectly possible to go through a planet or a star?

Seems kind of odd.

>> No.5351167

I'll stop goofing off for a second..
in all seriousness, what's the difference between a spec of dust and a star? Size/mass? Why is that important?

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>>5351166
DAMNIT I WAS FINNA SAY THAT

>> No.5351184

>>5351166

I'm not sure. You certainly (?) wouldn't go through it, but I'm not sure what would happen. You'd need to model what happens if the leading edge of an Alcubierre-type metric is created in a region of space already occupied by matter. It's not really clear, and I don't think anyone has done that yet. I have a suspicion that it would be bad for both parties. Perhaps diffuse interstellar dust wouldn't be a problem, but an entire planet might cause issues.

>> No.5351188

>>5351167

I would say mass, and the effect it has on the negative energy that makes the warp field go. This shouldn't be super hard to do rigorously if you're not a dumbcunt, which I am. You could model the metric in a standard dust energy distribution.

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>>5351171
>2012
>not having a 4chan pass
>mfw

>> No.5351217

>>5351205
>having one
>dysfunction

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>>5351205
>tfw you can never post a pic like mine
EYE NOE U JELLATON

>> No.5351301

>>5351123
flecks of paint were able to penetrate 6 inches of space-tempered glass in a modern space mission.

>> No.5351313

Warp-drive isn't real.

>> No.5351319

>>5351313
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20110015936_2011016932.pdf