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Is it possible to create an area which contains nothing? Completely void of matter, gravity, space-time, dark matter/energy, etc.

if so what would happen?

>> No.5273785

>completely void of space-time
>if so what would happen?

Nothing.

>> No.5273784

uh, well I wouldn't know how you would exclude spacetime from an area.
My only thought on this would be what is ''outside'' our universe's 11 dimensions

but that barely even makes sense, so I'm going to guess np.

>> No.5273788

>>5273784
adding on that, if you somehow managed it, the ''area'' that nothing was in would not be bound by the laws of physics since there are no dimensions and no spacetime, strings or subatomic particles to convey and quantify force

>> No.5273789

>>5273785
confimed for not understanding the implications of what OP suggests

>> No.5273794

>>5273784
>...our universe...
>11 dimensions

Pick one.

>> No.5273797

>>5273794
I'll add an extra dimension so I can pick both.

>> No.5273798

>>5273789
Are you suggesting anything can happen without space-time? This seems to be a definitional problem more than anything else.

>> No.5273810

>>5273797
>implying 12 dimensions explain everything
>implying there aren't 13 dimensions

>> No.5273813

>>5273781
> area
> contains no space-time

mutually incompatible

>> No.5273823

>>5273810
There aren't 13 dimensions because more than 12 dimensions would be too unstable; above 12 you can only have half-dimensions (and above 24, quarter-dimensions, and so on). The "13th dimension" you speak of is in fact the 12.5th.

>> No.5273820

>>5273784
>11 dimensions
so you saw that youtube video, *sigh*

>> No.5273828

>>5273823
half integers don't exist for dimensions, only thirds do so there would be 12*0.333.....*3 or 12.999... dimensions (not 13)

>> No.5273839

>>5273828
12.9... = 13.

>> No.5273844

>>5273828
>thinking dimensions are integers
>2012

>> No.5273848

>>5273844
>clearly hasn't learnt vortex math

How's highschool?

>> No.5273854

>>5273781
No, it is not possible.

Particle pair pop in and out of existence all the time on very short time scales.

>> No.5273855

>>5273828
>>5273844
>>5273848
I was about to write a serious mathematical reply concerning dimensions, but then I realized this is a thread full of trolls trolling shitposters who take a shit on a troll thread.

>> No.5273856

>>5273848
1. Extra dimensions above 4 don't exist (are imaginary).
2. A number with a real and imaginary component is a complex number.
3. Therefore dimension numbers are complex, not real.

>> No.5273858

>>5273848
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausdorff_dimension

you tell me

>> No.5273863

>>5273855
Thanks for the update champ!

>> No.5273864

>>5273855
That's autism for you.

>> No.5273865

OP, I like your question. But I'm afraid it is either unanswerable or a very simple answer.

You could say that everywhere there is nothing, because nothing would amount to 0 amount of space, which would be everywhere. Or something along these lines.

I think it's kind of like dividing by 0, but if there is any amount of 'area', it has to have a physical feature in which it is measurable, which means that an area has to have something. Which would mean that an area without anything would have to have an area of 0 which is, of course, nothing.

I think that could work as pseudo-proof to answer OP's question.

>> No.5273884

>>5273848
>>5273858
what? nothing to say now faggot?

>> No.5273886
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5273886

Yea... there's a place. Deep down inside the core of my heart lives nothing. A shallow empty space void of meaning and emotion. Not even hate or angry see life there, that bitch stole it all. SHE STOLE IT ALL GOD DAMMIT!