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5226846 No.5226846 [Reply] [Original]

Do you think its biologically possible to come up with a 'cure' for death? As in, something that will completely keep cells in all vital organs healthy and regenerative throughout life, and you could never die from natural causes?

>> No.5226850

oh look, it's this thread again

>> No.5226854

>>5226850

I just want to know, anon. Everybody seems so resigned to dying and don't think anybody should live forever.

>> No.5226856

Also, living forever would be insane suffering. I'd rather die, thank you very much.

>> No.5226855

>>5226846
No.

>> No.5226858

>>5226854

Nobody here thinks anybody "should" live forever. If they could, of course that'd be good.

But people who spout such transhumanist crap often think that they will be the ones given this longevity treatment, when the fact of the matter is that they wont.

>inb4 neckbeards who think they'll live forever

>> No.5226882

>>5226846
Why would someone want to 'cure' the only good cure we have for stupidity

>> No.5226886

We've been over this before.

Look up the SENS foundation and Aubrey De Grey's works. There's current ongoing research that plans to apply future nanotechnology with stem cells and a multitude of other mechanisms to repair cells and tissue.

>> No.5226903

We'll almost all certainly be long dead before transhumanism truly starts to take off. So, really there's no point in discussing something that won't involve us. Yep, we really were born too soon. Well, at least we were born at all and got to experience life. That's already like winning a genetic lottery of sorts. You gotta count your blessings.

>> No.5226967

>>5226856

why?

that just sounds like system justification taken out of an economic context.

>> No.5226970

>>5226846

Possibly. But would we want to?

>> No.5226971

>>5226967

My dad put it very well once. Surviving is exhausting.

>> No.5227021

>>5226971
I would just take a 100 year nap every few millennia and wake up refreshed and ready for the world.

>> No.5227027

>>5227021
Keep dreaming. By age 500 you would give anything to have the freedom to die.

>> No.5227029
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5227029

>>5226846

Yes.

>>5226854

Fuck you.

>>5226882

In the future we can just modify their brain.

>>5226971

Just because you and your dad are beta as fuck that doesn't mean other people have trouble living.

>> No.5227035

>>5227027

The question the guy asked was for biological immortality, not freedom from all types of death.

And just cause you couldn't handle it, doesn't mean the rest of us wouldn't give it a go.

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5227047

>>5227035
My philosophy of life is this: it's better to enjoy each and every moment as it is, than try to forcefully extend the moments until they become foggy and dull. If you can't see that every moment is precious right now, then even living 50.000 years wouldn't help you see this clearly. Your fantasy is about prolonging your suffering.

Don't bother replying, I'm not interested in this debate.

>> No.5227051

How you going to extend the telomere length without losing information and/or adding unwanted information in the lengthening process?
How are you going to lengthen telomeres at all in the first place?

>> No.5227053

>>5227029
anyone who says livin forever would be torture is an unimaginative fuck. You have all the time to master every skill. You can explore every facet of the world. By the time you exhaust what the world has to offer we will be extending into the stars. New sciences and skills and hobbies will have grown. There will always be something new and exciting.

>> No.5227057

>>5227053
Sure, because you can handle even a single day with 100% ruthless efficiency. Wake up and smell the coffee, sister.

>> No.5227056

>>5227047

>extending moments
>not forever making new and exciting moments

Also
>prolonging your suffering

You might have issues, bro.

>> No.5227064

What I would be worried about is everyone on earth turning into those ancient toolbags that show up and decry the decline of mankind or how awful children are everytime someone tries to make a social reform, or pass a scientific goal.

We all want to say "I would never be like that" but I think you would have a hard time finding someone who actually would say "that tool on fox? That's gonna be me someday". And yet somehow every generation manages to produce a fair sized chunk of them.

>> No.5227069

>>5227021

rip van wrinkle did that and he woke up old.

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5227089

>>5227053

Can you believe the the stupid retards who imagine life extension as people becoming perpetually closer to death, but no die, and exist in constant agony?

>> No.5227103

>>5227089
obviously eternal life without eternal youth is a curse. I assumed people itt would have the basic wisdom to understand that is what we are discussing.

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>>5227057

Do you have to resist the urge to kill yourself every time you read a first world problem meme?

>> No.5227114

>>5227089
It's the old djinn story about eternal life not equalling eternal youth and vice versa.

It was more or less defined as both in op, but I can see how one might interpret it as regeneration with decline rather than degeneration without.

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5227132

Listen up beta faggots. We all know you are sad and pathetic. We all know you want to rationalize your desire to die because you are a fucking weak beta male. But don't kid yourselves. You are too beta to kill yourselves or else you would have done it already.

You guys are too much of a faggot to want to live. Too much of a faggot to kill yourselves. Just sit back at let the big boys take care of immortality.

>> No.5227136

>>5227132
Immortality is a selfish and an impossible fantasy. Have fun.

>> No.5227154

>>5227150
>I will die
Exactly.

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5227150

>>5227136

I'm awesome, its awesome to be around me. Its a charity really.

Fuck you, I will die trying. huehuehuehuehuehuehue

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>>5227154

Really? I wasn't even being subtle with the huehue.

>> No.5227176

>>5227164
Tell me something. Would you rather experience an hour of intense bliss, like a trillion orgasms at once, or would you rather experience 500 years of misery and misfortune?

Now don't scissor your way out. Answer this exact question.

>> No.5227182

>>5227176

500 years of misery and misfortune

>> No.5227190

>>5227182
Lol'd. Ok. To each their own I guess.