/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4963336]

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/images/pia16051_figure_1_raw_smaller-br2.jpg

I demand answers

[Anonymous No.4963344]

Why are parts of the picture blacked out?

Great conspiracy?

[Anonymous No.4963369]

So its a strange looking rock, they'll probably take microscopic images of it and then shoot it with a laser to figure out what its made of sometime next week.

[Anonymous No.4963437]

bump

[Anonymous No.4963457]

>>4963344
panorama stich lacking shots

[MODS=FAGS !A.fuckMODs No.4963552]

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[Anonymous No.4963565]

Mail NASA demanding answers.

[Anonymous No.4963590]

>>4963336

it could be a small spaceship. if martians are very small, i'd imagine they'd come and check out the robot to see if it's friendly.

[Anonymous No.4963599]

Deliverin'

[Anonymous No.4963601]

>>4963599
and the other one

[Anonymous No.4963606]

>>4963599
All the rocks have smooth sharp cut surfaces. Only that one is eroded.

[Anonymous No.4963611]

OH NO ETS ERODED ROCK NASA IS FINFISHED

[General Vagueness No.4963612]

I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.4963627]

>>4963599
so? I don't see

[Anonymous No.4963629]

>>4963601
dolphins confirmed

[Anonymous No.4963631]

>>4963627
Lower right corner.

[Anonymous No.4963637]

>>4963601
>>4963599
Where'd you get these? You work for NASA or something?

[Anonymous No.4963650]

>>4963637
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/

[Anonymous No.4963651]

>>4963637

yes

[Anonymous No.4963652]

>>4963629

dolphins can't live on mars - there's no water.

that's probably a turtle that also lives underground.

[Anonymous No.4963660]

How much shit wil be lost if Curiosity finds fossils in the strata of the mountain?

[Anonymous No.4963667]

>>4963660
all of it

[Anonymous No.4963677]

There was a pic where some guy spotted an empty cigar box, with the brand clearly visible but dusty. Didn't look like shoop

[Anonymous No.4963683]

>>4963677

tell us about how the US government controls everything

[Anonymous No.4963685]

new wallpaper :3

[Anonymous No.4963695]

>>4963677

[Anonymous No.4963696]

>>4963685
And its shit

[Anonymous No.4963698]

>>4963683
wut ? how would faking mars pics make them control shit. it just means they suck at space.

[Anonymous No.4963703]

>>4963685
> 1680x1050
> not 1920x1080
loser faggot

[Anonymous No.4963705]

>>4963698
He's just trying to make you look an idiot by stereotyping you as a typical tinfoil hat faggot

[Anonymous No.4963706]

>>4963629
7/10

[Anonymous No.4963707]

Oh boy, HD images of dust and rocks!

[Anonymous No.4963710]

>>4963705
He doesn't even need someone to try to make him look like an idiot, he does that by himself.

[Anonymous No.4963731]

>>4963705
>>4963710
Thats way too mad brah. Maybe you should try to chill y'know.

[Anonymous No.4963746]

>>4963731

[Anonymous No.4963764]

>>4963746
> can't tell troll from fact
Isn't it passed your bedtime ? C'mon child, you can play 4chan tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4963772]

>>4963677
>There was this picture
It must still be out there, so post it.

[Anonymous No.4963773]

>>4963764
>fact
>random guy saying he saw a cigar box on mars
cool story

[Anonymous No.4963798]

not just sand

[Anonymous No.4963799]

>>4963798
Fuck you, that scared me.

[Anonymous No.4963806]

>>4963798
fucking sand people

[Anonymous No.4963833]

Wow, so many .....................rocks.

[Anonymous No.4963837]

>>4963799

[Anonymous No.4963852]

>>4963798
Oh fuck you! That almost game me a heart attack!

[Anonymous No.4963863]

Why are people so freaked out about stitched together photos? The large black box is the entire frame of height and width that they took pictures, but they didn't take pictures of the rover itself so that part of the frame is empty.

[Anonymous No.4963866]

>>4963863
Because trolls and dumb people.

[General Vagueness No.4963871]

>>4963606
no, a major factor in making any part of any rock smooth is erosion

[Anonymous No.4963892]

>>4963336
the things in the middle of that link look like dry rivers

[Anonymous No.4963897]

My heart.

[Anonymous No.4963900]

>>4963897
Oh shit, wrong board. I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.4963928]

>look like dry rivers

There never was water on Mars and there are no pyramids.

[Anonymous No.4964029]

>>4963928
Are you retarded? There was and still is water on Mars.

[Anonymous No.4964059]

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!

[Anonymous No.4964069]

>>4963928
MY GOD. they left us a message, they were advanced enough to have chairs and televisions!

[Anonymous No.4964077]

>>4963706

Notalljokesaretrolls.jpg

[Anonymous No.4964140]

NASA has confirmed water on Mars.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc_big.jpg

[Anonymous No.4964198]

Old ESA joke, from almost a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.4964211]

something has been flowing in there.

[Anonymous No.4964776]

Glorious high resolution

[Anonymous No.4964846]

>>4964198
I don't get it

[Anonymous No.4964851]

Crazy how a bunch of rocks look so familiar yet they're on fucking Mars

[Anonymous No.4964874]

>>4964851
Well they're made of all the same stuff as we have here on earth. Silicon, oxygen, iron. All that's missing is the plants.

[Anonymous No.4964912]

is thee a 1920x1080 wallpaper worthy picture ?

[Anonymous No.4964913]

>>4964846

it's making fun of how, in each successive decade, we talk about finding more and more water on mars.

[Anonymous No.4964916]

>>4964913
>NEW STUDY SHOWS THAT MARS IS ACTUALLY MADE OF WATER. MORE NEWS AT 11.

[Anonymous No.4964922]

inb4

[Anonymous No.4964926]

>>4964198
He looks so happy in teh 90s. Confirmed for best decade.

[Anonymous No.4964933]

>>4963601

Upper right rock looks like a claw.

[Anonymous No.4964952]

>>4964933
except if you zoom in, it looks like a fucking rock.

[Anonymous No.4964958]

>>4964211
lava

[Anonymous No.4965114]

looks like water

[Anonymous No.4965117]

>Observations from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter have revealed possible flowing water during the warmest months on Mars.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/news/mro20110804.html

[Anonymous No.4965119]

>>4965114
>>4965117
Holy shit fuck.

[Anonymous No.4965121]

>Observations from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter have revealed possible flowing water during the warmest months on Mars.

[Anonymous No.4965126]

>>4963336
>>4963336
ohh wow lol, so obvious they are hiding something... cant believe sheeple believe this

[Anonymous No.4965127]

>>4965126
Go back to /b/, faggot.

This trolling garbage is getting old.

[Anonymous No.4965139]

>find small ponds and streams that are remnents of a great ancient lake
>start digging into the bed to find sedentary rock layers much like on Earth
>find a fossil of an ancient amphibian like creature

Can't wait to hear the back pedaling of the "Was it worth it?" fags.

[Anonymous No.4965142]

>>4963344
the blacked out portions are data that was not received, or pictures of the rover parts that they are required to redact until the design documents are declassified to prevent reverse engineering.

The rover can only send data for about 14 minutes per martian day (which are slightly shorter than an earth day), at a MIND BOGGLING speed of 32 Kilobits per second.

It can communicate with a satellite orbiting Mars for 8 minutes per day at 256kbps (bits, not bytes), which can only communicate with earth about 20 minutes a day at 2Mbit/s

This means that DIAL UP is faster than Curiosity.

These photos are stitched from dozens of smaller photos, many of which need to be sent multiple times because radio waves traveling through space are subject to corruption from radiation.

[Anonymous No.4965148]

>>4965139
I would pee in my pants

[Anonymous No.4965151]

>>4965117
... mother of God

[Anonymous No.4965156]

>>4965139
I agree.

I hope we find something awesome.
Imagine if they found a large deposit of rare metals or minerals.

[Anonymous No.4965166]

>>4965139
You're thinking too small.

>Find evidence of ancient, space-faring civilization

[Anonymous No.4965174]

>>4965156
And just how would some minerals be awesome?

It's not like we will put a mining colony and shoot some gold or silver back to earth

[Anonymous No.4965175]

>>4965114
Gonna need some source on this bro.

[Anonymous No.4965177]

>>4965117
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T WE LAND THERE GOD DAMN NIGGERTITS

[Anonymous No.4965178]

>>4965174
You never know what the future may hold.

[Anonymous No.4965182]

>>4965175
No wait, scratch that, I found them.

But still, if any one o them had any reason to suspect that was water they'd probably be all over it. Which they're not.

[Anonymous No.4965191]

>>4965177
They're sitting in the bottom of what was probably once a lakebed. Even if that particular area has been dry for thousands of years they'll find evidence of liquid water in its past.

[Lob-U(LeX) !i68/3eKYfU No.4965210]

>>4965117
holy shit

[Lob-U(LeX) !i68/3eKYfU No.4965224]

>>4965182
Well, they cant just go to a spot on a whim. Im pretty sure they have to go through a shitload of planning just to get a specific spot approved and if this was discovered just last year im sure they havent even begun to think about sending something like a rover or anything else towards that to research it in any kind of depth.

[Anonymous No.4965232]

>>4965224
Those are current pictures of what that anon believes to be water that the Curiosity itself took.

[Anonymous No.4965235]

>>4965177

Just imagine they landed on a wide salty river and the whole rover goes to shit because of liquid entering the system.

That would have been hilarious.

[Lob-U(LeX) !i68/3eKYfU No.4965237]

>>4965232
My bad, for some reason I thought your post was in reference to this: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/news/mro20110804.html

[Anonymous No.4965238]

>>4965235
I kind of wish this happened now.
>send rover to mars to find traces of water
>rover drowns in a lake

[Anonymous No.4965240]

>>4965235

>radiation hardened
>protected against harsh, eroding winds
>protected against stronger sunlight due to less atmosphere
>can endure extreme temperatures
>OOPS IT'S NOT WATERPROOF LOLZ EPIC FAIL

[Anonymous No.4965252]

damn, can you even imagine religious people after that? would they be trying to explain how that all works into everything they've been teaching?

[Anonymous No.4965254]

>>4965240
Why would it need to be waterproofed?

It's mostly a dead, barren desert that's so cold most of the water, if there is any, would freeze.

[Anonymous No.4965257]

>>4965252
As a Christian, I can say I would be pretty excited for this.

Stop thinking we're all anti-technology and discovery.

[Anonymous No.4965258]

>>4963798
fuck dude

10/10, would not watch again at this hour. fuck you though

[Anonymous No.4965267]

ALIUMS

[Anonymous No.4965269]

>>4965257
enjoy your ban

[Anonymous No.4965281]

>>4965257
but you are though..

[Anonymous No.4965309]

Oh man I would totally pay like 10-15 bucks for one of those rocks.

I mean how cool would it be to say "Check this shit out" and they'd be like "What? It's just a rock." and I'd give them this smug look and pause for drama and say "A MARTIAN ROCK!".

Too bad it'll never happen. I wonder if they told the poor little guy Mars is his new home and he's never coming back yet.

[Anonymous No.4965316]

>>4963336

Someone left their thermos on mars

[Anonymous No.4965329]

>looks like chunk of meteor

FUCKING WOW, IT'S ROCKS

[Anonymous No.4965341]

>>4965309
FYI, .05 grams of moon rocks sold for $10,000. A .2 gram moon rock sample sold for $442,500. Now imagine how much the first large mars rock would be, considering how we haven't send a probe to mars that has returned to earth.

[General Vagueness No.4965480]

>>4965178
The future... oh, I can tell you about the future....

[Anonymous No.4965482]

Remember, all the black spoilers hide aliens.

[Anonymous No.4965495]

http://anon.nasa-global.edgesuite.net/anon.nasa-global/msl/figure_1_raw.png

I was looking at this picture and noticed there are a lot of smooth rocks on mars, so I guess this proves that water once flowed on this planet, am I right?

[Anonymous No.4965497]

>>4965495

Wind carrying particles also creates smooth rocks.

[Anonymous No.4965518]

>>4965497
such as this?

[Anonymous No.4965969]

>>4965495
We already know water once flowed on Mars. In fact it is the reason we chose the landing zone. It STILL flows today during the summer months.

[Anonymous No.4965985]

>>4963652

>there's no water

We don't know that yet.

[Anonymous No.4965991]

>>4965518

[Anonymous No.4966049]

Guys, what if its not water but like sulfur hexaflouride or some similar very dense gas?

[Anonymous No.4966068]

>>4966049
Anybody?

[Anonymous No.4966078]

I'm on the edge of my seat. I can not wait to see what they find. Pardon me if I'm wrong in saying this, but does the presence of water make the prospect of life more likely? (Microbial level or otherwise)

[Anonymous No.4966092]

>>4965991

[Anonymous No.4966094]

>>4966049
>Guys, what if its not water but like sulfur hexaflouride or some similar very dense gas?

I think they remembered to pack their spectrometer somehow.

If they're saying it's water. It's water.

They're not just going off a photo

[Anonymous No.4966103]

>>4966094
Most assumptions that Mars has had water come from the landscape photos.

[Anonymous No.4966184]

>>4966103
> assumptions
> confirmations
SHIGGIDYGIGGITYZOOPWOPABOPDOO

[Anonymous No.4966189]

>>4966184
Yes?

[Anonymous No.4966196]

>>4965518

Sure. Plus all rocks that are smooth are not smooth from erosion. Some rocks are smooth because they are pieces of amorphous cooled liquid.

Try learning a little bit about geology before trying to decipher a speck of blurry pixels.

[Anonymous No.4966468]

>>4965175
i swear it's on the NASA website that holds all the picture

[Anonymous No.4966686]

According to an undiscloseable source, this time they are planning to announce the discovery (or at least indirect evidence) of live bacteria on Mars.

They have been found many years ago but the release of information had been blocked by the principal investigator to avoid injury to the religious sensitivities of the majority of the population (i.e. voters; NASA is not an independent agency, it depends on public funding).

It will be interesting to observe how this plays out. Disclosure of either discovery or indirect evidence may depend on which faction of the system party gets selected into 'power' later this year though.

You will remember this when the news hits the front page.

[Anonymous No.4966736]

found this on reddit, step it up /sci/

earth, jupiter, and venus, from top to bottom, bitches

[Anonymous No.4966737]

so water IS on mars? its legit?

[Anonymous No.4966739]

>>4966736

that's fake

[Anonymous No.4966740]

>>4966739
its not fake, and its been posted here before.

[Anonymous No.4966743]

>>4966737
The planet has ice caps.

[Anonymous No.4966746]

>>4966740

it actually is fake, because jupiter is kinda on the wrong side of the sun right now. only way you could have gotten those three planets to line up like that was in august of 2010.

this is a simulation of what the mars sky might have looked like in august of 2010. or maybe july, i don't know the exact date

[Anonymous No.4966747]

>>4966743
i meant flowing water

[Anonymous No.4966749]

>>4966740

1. mars terrain is not red like that

2. its a spirit or opportunity modified image

3. stars look like photoshop and way to bright for that day time

[Anonymous No.4966753]

>>4966747
Yes, there is flowing water on Mars.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc_big.jpg

[dickface No.4966757]

I looks more like an abandoned quarry than a seabed.

[Anonymous No.4966759]

It looks more like an abandoned quarry than a seabed

[Anonymous No.4966761]

>>4966740
Yes it is fake. Phil Plait wrote a post on it.

[Anonymous No.4966769]

>>4966761
This one is not fake.

[Anonymous No.4966771]

>>4966769
>This is the first image ever taken of Earth from the surface of a planet beyond the Moon. It was taken by the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit one hour before sunrise on the 63rd Martian day, or sol, of its mission. (March 8, 2004)

[Anonymous No.4966796]

>>4966686
Cool story bro. (It will not surprise me much if they do find life though.)

[Anonymous No.4967860]

bump

[Anonymous No.4968846]

>>4966796
found the cool story
it was Viking 1 (1976)
story unfortunately in German

[Anonymous No.4968915]

>>4964211
yeah ur mom lmao

[Anonymous No.4968949]

>tfw still no good wallpapers from mars

[Anonymous No.4969247]

/sci/?

[Anonymous No.4969271]

>>4963798
best thing that ever could happen.
>NASA budget 900 billion USD
>mars invasion launched by 2018

[Anonymous No.4969272]

>>4965254
It's sealed to be airtight as fuck to keep the corrosive sand out. I'm all but certain it's waterproof as a secondary consequence.

[Anonymous No.4969280]

>>4963685
lol cant get more beta then taht

[Anonymous No.4969314]

>>4965166
>shepred kill the rippers

[Anonymous No.4969337]

>>4966686

I see you left us with a source and evidence.

[Anonymous No.4969339]

>>4969314
Another fucking reference. I've been trying to wean myself off that game you cunt.

[Anonymous No.4969356]

>>4969314
>Rippers

[Anonymous No.4969380]

>>4965174 It's not like we will put a mining colony and shoot some gold or silver back to earth

Except that's exactly what we will do, if significant quantities are determined. NASA /will/ have to keep quiet about it though, such a find can have serious political consequences.

[Anonymous No.4969387]

>>4965257
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.4969393]

>>4969380
How would they mine the minerals and send them back in a way that they at least break even? It's not like you can build a big cannon and just aim for Texas.

[Anonymous No.4969395]

>>4965139
>implying they think it would be worth it

[Anonymous No.4969403]

>send up Curiosity to mars
>make it tip over a tub of water when no one is looking
>quickly take a picture of the water as it runs down a hill
>'LOOK DERES WATER SEE IT WASN'T ALL A WASTE OF MONEY'

stay blind, retards

[Anonymous No.4969407]

>>4969403
how old are you?

[Anonymous No.4969412]

>>4969407
how old are you?

[Anonymous No.4969413]

>>4969407
I can't believe you fell for that.

I'm not even the poster.

[Anonymous No.4969438]

>>4969393
>It's not like you can build a big cannon and just aim for Texas
WHY NOT?
I mean, I don't expect the minerals to get intact, but why can't you build a giant cannon and shoot shit at Texas from Mars?

[Anonymous No.4969477]

>>4969438
Because this is what would happen to Texas.

[Anonymous No.4969479]

>>4968846

Does that mean that thing was already able to dig and analyze soil samples 36 years ago? And after that they sent some toy cars to Mars to keep us entertained? That's depressing.

[Anonymous No.4969482]

>>4969477
Eh, Texas is big

[Anonymous No.4969486]

>>4969479
The experiments were primitive and mainly looking for life at the time of analysis.

[Anonymous No.4969649]

>mfw it looks just like Twentynine Palms
>I live in Twentynine Palms
>I'm a Martian

[Anonymous No.4969659]

>>4969649
0\10

[Anonymous No.4970029]

>>4965166

[Anonymous No.4970033]

[Anonymous No.4970439]

>>4965142
Why are data transmission rates so bad on all spacecraft? It seems to have always been this way historically. Is it difficult to make a high-frequency radio that is resistant to radiation, or does the problem lie with keeping high-frequency, heavily modulated signals readable across large distances of space?