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4961879 No.4961879 [Reply] [Original]

Are gravity enhancing chambers feasible?

I believe they would be good for those who train their body, like weightlifters

>> No.4961884 [DELETED] 
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4961884

Perhaps in space, if you could built something akin to a centrifuge.

Other than that however, its more logical to just wear a body suit thats weighted to the degree you wish to amplify gravity.

Thats where i'd sink my research money.

>> No.4961887
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>>4961884

in fact Roshi makes Krillin and Goku train with weight

>mfw DBZ is /sci/ as fuck

>> No.4961912

wouldn't it affect internal organs?

>> No.4961927

>>4961887
>>4961884
One wouldn't need to build it in space. Build it on Earth. Have a room spinning around a centrifuge.

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>>4961927
Seems to me that it would be easier to simply design a weighted suit.

>> No.4961935

>>4961931
Easier? Yes.
Awesomer? No.

>> No.4961946

Would increased gravity make a ball pit more or less fun?

>> No.4961947

>>4961912
Yes, and before you know it you have the strongest guts around.

>> No.4961951

>trip and fall down at 3g
>crack your skull open and die

No thanks.

>> No.4961955

that would most likely be used to torture by countries, terrorists, and other regimes.

Better to not have it rather than it used by people like that.

>> No.4961965

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-G_training

>> No.4961967

>>4961951

Which is pretty hilarious since DBZ had an entire episode dedicated to that type of scenario (minus the skull cracking open and dying part).

>> No.4961990

doing pushups at 100x gravity so alpha

>> No.4961991

>>4961946
>Would increased gravity make a ball pit more or less fun?

Research it and win an Ig Nobel Prize.

>> No.4962345

A large part of gravity is rotation speed.
Faster you spin, harder gravity is. I think there is a carnival ride that works because of this.

>I believe they would be good for those who train their body, like weightlifters
At SLIGHTLY AND ONLY SLIGHTLY ABOVE EARTH LEVEL, yes. Not everything in the human body is as tough as a bone. For example, the pressure of your blood.

>> No.4962358

>>4962345
>A large part of gravity is rotation speed. Faster you spin, harder gravity is. I think there is a carnival ride that works because of this.

what the fuck am i reading.png

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>>4962345

>> No.4962421

>>4962345
You're thinking of inertia.

>> No.4962427

>>4962421
You mean centrifugal force?

>> No.4962433

his hair must be very mucular, resisting 100 earth gravities and all.

>> No.4962434

> 2012
> people still thinking the effects of gravity and acceleration are distinguishable from each other

>> No.4962439

Enjoy fucking your joints up

>> No.4962456

>>4962434
>2012
>not knowing the difference between cause and effect

>> No.4962459

>>4961955
>implying there's any type of technology that can't be used for torture

>> No.4962475

>>4962456

>2012
>still doesn't understand relativity

>> No.4962478

Sprinterfag here.
Training with weights is better. (no side effects with internal organs, bp, etc..)

It's indeed very efficient.
Other efficient ways to force your muscles are running "uphill" and running with a parachute.

It's VERY tiring though.

The sensation of runing without the constraints when you get them off is incredible...

>> No.4962492

>>4962475
>thinks he does

>> No.4965081
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>>4961879
Would slow you down considerably though. Boxers have tried to train by punching while holding dumbells - they are much slower punchers thereafter because the mind trains itself to recruit more muscles than necessary during the punch. You'll still have the same body and arm mass but less speed/acceleration and therefore less force.
They tried a similar exercise with weighted baseball bats - was a bad idea.
I have a feeling training under gravity would have a similar effect on your walking/running speed.

>> No.4965099

>>4962478
That sounds like badass fun. Id love to run around with a parachute down the freeway.

>> No.4965137

I suppose if you constructed a rotating habitat module in space with a variable rotation speed you could do it.

But as it is, even simulating a fraction of Earth's gravity is going to be hard as hell. Simulating more than that is just ridiculous.

Say you've got a ring that's 100 meters across. It's gonna need to rotate at about 27 rpm just to hit 1g. Maximum rotation rate you can become accustomed to without getting dizzy and nauseous and throwing up all the time is 5 rpm

Minimum diameter for 1g at 5rpm is almost 3 kilometers.

>> No.4965138

>>4962478
>Sprinterfag here. Training with weights is better
yes.. i'm sure you guys have enough experience with high-g training to make your opinion any more valid than the average person's.
I played real sports, and I'm pretty sure high-g training would be more efficient than weights. It's hard to target all the muscles you use in a certain action with weights alone. In boxing and other combat sports for example, weighted gloves don't increase punching power and can produce bad form. High-g training would be much more efficient because all the muscles involved in a punch would be taxed with the same ratio.

>> No.4965146

>>4961879
Wait.. what if you made a gravity increasing centrifuge.. and then reversed its rotation, for reduced gravity?

>> No.4965152

>>4965146
Sorry never mind jsut realized that wouldnt work.. what i meant is spin a centrifuge up to increase the gravity.. then slow it down.. so you will have low gravity.. Of course you could probably only get the reduced gravity affect fora few minutes, before you have to spin it up again.

>> No.4965186

>>4965081
So would some kind of sci-fi device that removes the weight from their arms, or an exoskeleton type thing that lets the boxer throw punches faster than normal with almost no effort, help them in normal conditions?

>> No.4965188

>>4961887
Forget where I heard it but pretty sure wearing weights all the time actually hurts your muscles.

>> No.4965203

>>4965138
Yes but which is more feasible?