/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4885959]

Hi /sci/, after watching a documentary about LSD, i wonder: What if a physicist (or some of them) took an appropriate dose of it?

The common users of this drug are hopeless young adults that haven't went past high school, and normally they ain't got shit in the brains but wanting to be and look cool. I think that's the reason they see elephants and flying trees and those shits.
But wouldn't a physicist, or even other kinda of scientist whose his field requires deep thinking, experience things about that?
Idk, i never took this drug nor heard about any scientist taking it but i'm wondering.

[Anonymous No.4885963]

>>4885959
Most theoretical physicists are notorious substance abusers, so to answer your question: not much.

[Anonymous No.4885964]

>>4885963
I've never heard of this. Source?

[Anonymous No.4885970]

I'm pretty sure the double helix structure of DNA was discovered on acid (Watson + Crick)

[Anonymous No.4885969]

>>4885959
I've always wondered what one of those god-tier monks would see on one.

[Anonymous No.4885974]

>>4885959
>The common users of this drug are hopeless young adults that haven't went past high school...
What are you, 12 years old? People from all walks of life do psychedelics.

As to your question, yes, smart people tend to think smart things on LSD. Personally I'm a mathematician, and I occasionally do psychedelics including LSD - I have on occasion had insights whilst on LSD or psilocybin that have allowed me to overcome obstacles related to my research. While you're less inclined to sit and work hard, it allows you to see things from a perspective that is otherwise unavailable to you, and you may solve problems you otherwise could not as a result.

Many scientists make use of this effect.

[Anonymous No.4885984]

OPs post is retarded. I know im only an undergrad but I drop tabs with buddys who are doing their masters and phds, every couple of weeks. We get high and go look at ducks and aquariums and discuss the finer points some of the sciences that we know. SHITS FUN!!

[Anonymous No.4885992]

>>4885984
Hear hear.

Whenever you seek fun, you're trying to trick your body into flooding your brain with certain chemicals for your own entertainment. Doing drugs is just being more direct and more careful about it.

[None !ddB8dxMZ/s No.4885993]

>>4885959
because shit's illegal.

Cheap too, so theres no money in it, and not many suppliers. Theres a lot of politics in it.

Anyways, double helix (frances crick) and this guy use acid, so I wouldn't say that just yet.

[Anonymous No.4886006]

>>4885974
I said COMMON users.

I find it hard to believe that scientists would use this drug since there are proven drawbacks that could occur after using it, I'm talking about paranoia, depression and stuff like that.

Personally, I would like to try it, but i do not because i'm scared of the effects, and I read that being scared while taking it makes it more likely to have a bad trip and flip out.

[Anonymous No.4886008]

>>4886006
>I find it hard to believe that scientists would use this drug since there are proven drawbacks that could occur after using it, I'm talking about paranoia, depression and stuff like that.
[Citation needed]

[Anonymous No.4886009]

>>4886006
the more intelligent someone is the more likely they are to abuse substances, this includes things like alcohol, cocaine and LSD.

[Anonymous No.4886011]

>>4886009
my hypotheses on this is that they are also smart enough not to let it ruin their lives by exercising self control and budgeting for the future and not getting caught. and thats why the most common poeple seen in the news and such that use drugs are all jobless retards.

[Anonymous No.4886045]

Acid was first tested by scientists, right? Chemists, sure, but scientists none the less. Hell, the guy who discovered it did it regularly.

>>4886009
[citation needed]

Alcohol and LSD, possibly. Alcohol is a common drug, and LSD isn't particularly harmful as long as you have someone with you to prevent you from doing stupid things while tripping. Anyone with half a brain, though, knows that cocaine will fuck you up and will probably stay away from it.

[Anonymous No.4886055]

>>4886011

But you are a retard and have no idea how the world works. All the successful people strive on drugs; corporate fat cats like their white mountains, while sciences and maths people like their marijuanas and psychedelics.

[Anonymous No.4886057]

>>4886055

Oh yeah I forgot to mention I'd take a good guess in saying that at LEAST 70% of all popular music comes from abusers of some sort of drug. Drug abusers make the world go round.

[Anonymous No.4886062]

Hallucinogens should be a prerequisite for Physics.

[Anonymous No.4886076]

isn't meth better for a scientist?
Paul Erdos was a meth addict and he said that without his dose he only sees a blank paper and gets no ideas.

[Anonymous No.4886081]

>>4886076
amphetamines, not meth

[Anonymous No.4886098]

I've just recently became interested in marijuana
I'm not a physicist or generally a good example of a successful intelligent person, but the few times that I have smoked I've become extraordinarily creative, and the ideas and concepts and inventions I've created while high impressed me long after the high had ended.

I feel like I'd like to tamper more with psychoactive drugs to see what I could actually do.

[Anonymous No.4886314]

>>4886045
>High Childhood IQ Linked to Subsequent Illicit Drug Use, Research Suggests
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111114221018.htm

or
Intelligence across childhood in relation to illegal drug use in adulthood: 1970 British Cohort Study
http://jech.bmj.com/content/early/2011/10/28/jech-2011-200252

[Anonymous No.4886324]

Op stereotypes. History has a few named smart people sourcing their break throughs with psychedelics.Thats just the ones known

Psychedelics just create a profound experiences, boundary disillusionment, looking at shit differently.

>You don't need to take a drug to do that.
But it would be expensive as fuck and time consuming to travel to India with nothing but the clothes on your back.

[Anonymous No.4886335]

>>4886314
Correlation doesn't imply causation dumbshit. It's because children from wealthy families (aka not below the poverty line) are both more likely and have the funding to abuse drugs, compared to a poor family. Children from rich families have higher IQs.

And using a loose correlation to justify your drug use is pathetic. If you need drugs to 'see things from a new perspective' I'm guessing your life isn't going so well.

[Anonymous No.4886342]

>>4885959
LSD is literally playing Russian Roulette with your brain. For most people it does no harm and they're OK, maybe even a bit better afterwards. For some people it fucks them up so bad that they're not the same person afterwards. I don't think it's worth the risk, personally.

[Anonymous No.4886346]

>>4886335
fool (Picture was not related)

I understand that. Just posting source for that dude.
And nope no drug use here.

>No need to try to rustle my jimmy's.

[Anonymous No.4886351]

>The common users of this drug are hopeless young adults that haven't went past high school


>2012
>not realizing all kinds of people in all kinds of careers and life styles do all kinds of drugs

I scooby doo

[Anonymous No.4886357]

I read once on 420chan about some "chemist" who would take shrooms and he said he would just think of chemistry. He would talk about seeing the energy and all that shit of things, electrons, all dat cray shit

[Anonymous No.4886364]

>>4886314

>>4886335

I know a lot of people hate the whole correlation-cause thing, but I just realized something.

I was really good friends with this guy from secondary school, and he started doing pot, and a bit of coke here and there and some psychedelics. Anyway he was intelligent, had a great aptitude for solving puzzles as well, he fucking loved Rubik's cubes, and not just the standard 3x3x3, he had some other crazy ones. I think because he started doing drugs at the wrong time in his life he ended up pissing it all away. I still think to this day that he could have really applied himself. Haven't heard from him for a while

Think about it, Mathematicians and Physcists do what they do because they love the challenge. They love the challenge of learning a certain method and applying it in other situations. The ultimate goal - to solve the problem and find the answer. However to solve a problem, the person needs to think differently, they need to take various mental paths to reach the end goal.

People who take drugs often do so to escape reality, to enter a new system of thought. Stuff like DMT and Acid can 'unlock' your brain allowing you to think and perceive things differently.

So ultimately it would make sense that people who study things like Maths and Physics would probably be the likely consumer of drugs

[Anonymous No.4886370]

>>4886057

Not just popular music. Wagner wrote most of his operas in drug-induced stages. Orchestral musicians are notorious for having coke parties in the green room before shows and during intermissions

Drugs have always been a HUGE part of human culture, and pretending that "Drugs are bad m'kay" is retarded. The only difference between acid and other drugs is that acid is only possible with (somewhat) modern chemistry. If there was any drug scientists were going to do, I think it would be LSD considering they invented it

[Anonymous No.4886387]

There is probably something wrong with me in this "drugs shows new perspectives", i am a artist who sell oil paintings, used to smoke pot and did shrooms once, fact was when i had this routine i was a passable artist at least, i noticed that when im sober for long periods i have more creative ideas for paintings, and dedicate myself more to it, trying to make something beatifull and meaningfull instead of just "LOL pretty collors, that's trippy".
But reading this thread im thinking if this is somehow exclusive to me.

[Anonymous No.4886391]

>>4886387
*beautiful

[Anonymous No.4886408]

>>4885963
LOLWAT

Most scientists avidly avoid drugs. They dont fit to any hip norms

[Anonymous No.4886415]

>>4886387
I was a pro musician for a while, and I noticed this as well with my band mates. When everyone was clean and sober, we were fantastic. When they were stoned (I never did drugs), they would think our practice and recording sessions were fantastic, and that they were musical gods. I, on the other hand, thought they played like shit. Shrooms were the worst, but even one joint before a jam session was enough to reduce its quality significantly.

[Anonymous No.4886416]

>>4885970
They didn't discover that structure

[Anonymous No.4886420]

>>4886408

>most kids in college trying to be edgy "my life is science" types

Fixed that for you.

[Anonymous No.4886426]

>>4886415


What band?

[Anonymous No.4886427]

As a chemist specialized in organic chemistry who has taken A LOT of psychedelics, I can tell you that acid did jack shit for my understanding of chemistry, it was loads of fun though.

Also, 2C-B is more fun than LSD

[Anonymous No.4886428]

>>4886426
You must be the specialist searching for victims to criticize.

[Anonymous No.4886429]

>>4886428

No, I just have to know you were actually in a band before I can take your anecdote seriously. Especially as a working musician myself, who does all kinds of drugs on/off stage and in/out of the studio

[Anonymous No.4886437]

>>4886426
None you've ever heard of. That other anon (>>4886428) wasn't me.

[Anonymous No.4886502]

well there's always feynman, and he was a kook

[Anonymous No.4886511]

>>4886342

if you take acid and aren't a different person afterward, you are doing it wrong

[Anonymous No.4886516]

>>4886427

But 2c-e beats both.

[Anonymous No.4886773]

>>4885974
So true.thank you

[Anonymous No.4886823]

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The Doors of Perception
DoorsofPerception.jpg
1st edition (UK)
Author(s) Aldous Huxley
Country United Kingdom
Language English
Subject(s) Philosophy
Genre(s) Non-fiction
Publisher Chatto & Windus (UK)
Harper & Row (US)
Publication date 1954
Media type Print (Hardback & Paperback)
ISBN 0-06-059518-3
OCLC Number 54372147
Dewey Decimal 615/.7883 22
LC Classification RM666.P48 H9 2004

The Doors of Perception is a 1954 book by Aldous Huxley detailing his experiences when taking mescaline. The book takes the form of Huxley’s recollection of a mescaline trip that took place over the course of an afternoon, and takes its title from William Blake's poem The Marriage of Heaven and Hell. Huxley recalls the insights he experienced, which range from the "purely aesthetic" to "sacramental vision".He also incorporates later reflections on the experience and its meaning for art and religion.
>copypaste from wiki cuz lazy

[Anonymous No.4887532]

>>4886342
I don't think you know what "literally" means.