/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4873110]

>will you make it to 2300?

http://futuretimeline.net/the-far-future.htm

I intend too. Fuck yes. All my money to stay alive.

2300

Superhuman powers are available to common citizenry

The nanotechnology of recent decades has conferred powers to citizens that would be considered superhuman by 21st century standards. These upgraded "transhumans" could perform feats regarded as Godlike to denizens of earlier times.

[Anonymous No.4873118]

OMG LOL TRANSHUMANISM GUYS I WANT TO BE A ROBOTZ LOOL XD THE BORG OLOLOL U WILL BE ASSIMILATED XDDDDDDD

[Anonymous No.4873119]

We already have carbon nanotube muscles that are around 100x stronger then biological muscle.

We'll have super-human capabilities before the end of the century.

[Anonymous No.4873123]

>>4873119
The singulary is near!

[Anonymous No.4873125]

Hopefully they make time machines too.
Then I can be a demigod in ancient Greece.

[Anonymous No.4873127]

>>4873123
what makes you think the singularity didn't happen 50 years ago?

[Anonymous No.4873131]

>>4873127

I don't think you know what the singularity is...

[Anonymous No.4873132]

>>4873131
i do, but do you?

[Anonymous No.4873134]

>2312
>not smashing entire alien worlds with your mind while fucking 10^69 space bitches at the same time
Bunch of plebs.

[Anonymous No.4873138]

>>4873132

Yes. It's the period in which technology becomes so advanced it can no longer be predicted what happens afterwards.

You know, we don't even have commercial quantum-computers yet, you really think we past the tech-singularity?

[Anonymous No.4873147]

Good news: it's pretty likely that with advances in developmental biology and genetics we'll be able to cure aging within our lifetime

Bad news: it's almost certain that to take advantage of it, treatment has to start while you're still a blastula, so at best your grandchildren will take advantage of it. Also, it will probably lead to a massive increase in cancer rates

[Anonymous No.4873155]

>>4873147
>blastula

fuck no, you troll.
sauce for this?

[Anonymous No.4873409]

We'll destroy ourselves before this.

[Anonymous No.4873433]

>>4873138

Curing aging would more than likely render cancer null and void, as cancer is more a problem of dna encoding failures. Which happens more and more often as you age.

[Anonymous No.4873444]

>>4873409
Like Carl said, we'll either destroy ourselves, or make life free and beautiful for every inhabitant of this planet. Lets be optimistic.

[Anonymous No.4873455]

>>4873110
> Fuck yes. All my money to stay alive.

ORLY? And yet billionaires are dying right on schedule, in their 80s and 90s. They have the best health care, and yet they still die. Curious, isn't it?

Well, not when you realize what's really going on. They are still dying with billions in wealth, having not invested in longevity. People who gain billions in wealth have a certain mentality. By that, I mean they are stereotypical Violent Simians. They only care about money. Money, money, money. Even though it's the most insane shit ever, their goals are to die with more money than ever. Making money is one of the ultimate expression of violent simianhood. You work and work and work, fucking people over left and right, just so that you end up with a larger pile of "stuff" than the other simians.

So how this works is, if you want to make use of all your money to stay alive, you'll never EVER have enough to actually achieve that goal. Very rich people have the means, but they are already lost to the ideology of money-grubbing. So longevity never EVER gets achieved.

THE. FUCKIN'. END.

[Anonymous No.4873462]

>>4873455
Please adopt a tripcode so I can filter your garbage.

[Anonymous No.4873464]

>>4873119

when will it be my turn for a 200 plate bench press

[Anonymous No.4873485]

Have you ever seen one of those old movies that have shit such as "The year is 2001. We have a city on mars, and people often commute to work via spacecraft."?
Yeah, that's you right now

[Anonymous No.4873522]

What you guys think of Narrative Science’s “Quill” program? For those of you who don’t know, it’s a program that, given correct sources, can write articles in seconds, with a writing style indiscernible from humans. Forbes, and the Tribune have already published with it before, and one of Quill’s founders estimates over 90% percent of journalism will be done by computers in a matter of years.

If the thought processes of writers can be broken down and recreated by a set of algorithms, couldn’t you do the same for any kind of scientist? I imagine that theoretically in a few years anyone not on the cutting edge of research in their field could be made redundant. This seems like it might also spread to other walks of life, with computers possibly one day outperforming humans socially. But what if the elements to human ingenuity are broken down and can be applied more effectively by programs? What would you do if humans were made redundant in every way?

TL;DR Computers replacing humans much faster than expected, what do

[Anonymous No.4873556]

>>4873462
> Please adopt a tripcode so I can filter your garbage.

I don't have to expend any effort whatsoever to do YOUR job of (sadly) keeping yourself totally ignorant. That's YOUR job. And you do it well, since you didn't refute ANYTHING that I said.

Billionaires are in the BEST position to engage in longevity research and development. And yet, they die right on schedule for healthy people with full access to Western medicine: 80s and 90s. That's ZERO added longevity for having billions of dollars.

So there's a big BIG fucking problem here that you're not facing. That most people aren't facing. It has to do with their DNA... the DNA of a Violent Simian. It limits what "Humans" (Violent Simians) do with anything.

The Violent Simians who have no power, dream of power. And the Violent Simians who HAVE power, do nothing but abuse it. Even more fuckedly, Violent Simians who have no power and THEN gain it, fall right into line with the other Violent Simians who have power, so they abuse it.

I can't wait until you're priced out of gasoline. You're gonna end up getting shot. This is the true nature of the world: Senseless, animal violence. Intelligence is a LIABILITY in that world, not an asset.

[Anonymous No.4873586]

>>4873556
just stop, you're embarrassing yourself

[Anonymous No.4873587]

If you can live to 2065 apparently by then we would have halted the aging process

[Anonymous No.4873593]

>>4873138
but that's just the point technological advancement has been rapid for the last 50 years and people have fucking sucked at predicting. I say the singularity happened long ago, it just wasn't very dramatic.

[Anonymous No.4873604]

>>4873485
It works both ways.

[Anonymous No.4873620]

>>4873604
Damn, maybe the scientists didn't have much of a vision back in the day.

[Anonymous No.4873627]

>>4873604
>Scientists from the RAND Corporation have created this model to illustrate how a "home computer" could look like in the year 2004. However the needed technology will not be economically feasible for the average home. Also the scientists readily admit that the computer will require not yet invented technology to actually work, but 50 years from now scientific progress is expected to solve these problems. With teletype interface and the Fortran language the computer will be easy to use.

[Anonymous No.4873645]

>>4873604
That wheel, man. That wheel

[Anonymous No.4873648]

>>4873604
Wait, why the fuck doesn't my home computer have a giant steering wheel? I feel cheated.

[Anonymous No.4873651]

>>4873648
It's called a racing wheel. Go to the store and buy one.

[Anonymous No.4873655]

>>4873110
You don't need to make it alive to 2300.
You just need to preserve your brain.

Classically this would be via cryonics, but today it seems like plastinisation could be a better choice. Essentially your brain and all tissue is first fixated in formaldehyde, and then infused with plastic. While it sounds simple and perhaps even crude it seemingly preserves all vital structures, and it can be stored pretty much in room temperature.

By 2300 then, your plastic brainblock can be scanned at molecular precision and simulated at the same. Probably destructive scanning but who cares about flesh brains anymore by then anyway.

[Anonymous No.4873663]

>>4873651
Different kind of wheel, man.
That there is a turbo wheel.
You know that old computer you had 15 years ago that had a turbo button? It's like that, except you spin the wheel instead

[Anonymous No.4873668]

>>4873663
it manually pumps more electrons into the ALU providing you with more science per second.

[Anonymous No.4873670]

>>4873455
It's not that, it's just that billionaires are very realistic and don't cling to infantile dreams of "omg, guise we gonna have Xmen's metal skeletons and live forever xD".

[Anonymous No.4873684]

>>4873670
No billionaires need to be involved. The cost to develop these techs is somewhere between free and a few ten millions.

Free, because connectome mapping projects require pretty much the same preservation techniques and will develop them with or without any long term brain preservation goals.

A few ten millions if you want to move the preservation target a few years closer to now. There's some testing that have to be done to actually verify the current iterations preserve enough structure.

Most likely there will be no real metal exoskeletons to speak off, you'll drop off all revived people in a state of the art 3d game engine enviroment that's custom made to sortof fit the period of their demise, and from there they can acclimatize themself without massive future shock.

[Anonymous No.4873686]

What's the point of having superhuman powers if it is available to everybody? That's retarded

[Anonymous No.4873688]

>>4873686
So you can successfully compete. If you don't have super powers then you won't get the job or the mate over the robot/superhuman.

[Anonymous No.4873689]

>>4873686
What's the point of tap water and electric grid power if it's availible to everyone? You're retarded!

[Anonymous No.4873738]

>>4873686

So you can be hailed as a god-king when you visit the less fortunate parts of the world.

[Anonymous No.4873755]

>>4873686
Not everything is a competition.

[Anonymous No.4873756]

>>4873686
Don't you want to be like these people, except cool?

[Anonymous No.4873776]

>>4873138
>we can't predict what happens afterwards.
>predicts commercial quantum-computers anyway

[Anonymous No.4873778]

The humans were meant to fuck things up, it is in our nature.

[Anonymous No.4873892]

>>4873684
> No billionaires need to be involved. The cost to develop these techs is somewhere between free and a few ten millions.

Wow! So cheap! Pocket change, really, for a billionaire. AND YET THEY DIE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE.

Something's missing from your claims. It's called "A BRAIN". If it only costs $10 million for somebody to experience life extension, then most if not all billionaires would have done it. And yet, NONE OF THEM HAVE.

cluephone.jpg <------ It's ringing, for you! Your claim is total BULLSHIT.

[Anonymous No.4873908]

>>4873756
souce? so fun

[Anonymous No.4873911]

>>4873118

[Anonymous No.4873926]

Probably by 2050 there will be huge life extensions.

I would say that it starts with the most sensitive parts of human that fail first like heart, (there is already artificial hearts but they dont work more that 5 years) then all other organs come after. And atlast there will be full robotic body where only brains will be attached and then people will only concentrate on treating brains better and better and at last life-time expection will be hmm.. like 500 years or what.

And this all have already started, so if you want it to come faster and help the "superhumanity" go study cyborgicity like automation of things and whatever artifial heart -creators have studied :)

[Anonymous No.4873972]

>>4873926
The human brain starts to deteriorate starting in your 20s... By the time people reach 90, most people aren't thinking nearly as well as they were at the peak of their lives. What's the point of extending your physical lifespan to hundreds of years if you're mostly a worthless vegetable for the vast majority of it?

[Anonymous No.4873973]

I don't understand people who desire cybernetic body parts. We already replace technology nearly annually. Smart phones and computers are outdated practically before they're sold. Now you want to make it so that replacement of technology requires major surgery?

[Anonymous No.4873977]

>>4873892
As you seem to consider brain plastinisation to be a life extension technology that would prevent death you can be nothing other than retarded.

[Anonymous No.4873980]

>>4873977
Wat??? Why the heck did you think the guy who wrote
>>4873972
is the same guy as the one who wrote:
>>4873655

...

[Anonymous No.4873985]

>>4873892

I'm not who you're arguing with but you're being really dense.

It doesn't matter how much money someone has to throw at the issue right now, viable life extension technology doesn't exist yet and won't for several decades.

[Anonymous No.4874028]

>>4873985
Throw your money into cryonics via alcor. The worst that can happen is you still die ('never wake up'), and you die with less money. You can't take the money into a nonexistant after life anyway, so...

Think of it as the modern, more reasonable version of pascal's wager.

You are likely to never wake up (die). If you do wake up, you get immortality and infinite gain. If you die, you get nothing. If you spend your money on cryonics, you take a finite loss. If you don't, you're left neutral.

(small probability) * (infinite gain) - (finite loss) > (sure bet) * (no loss)

[Anonymous No.4874039]

>>4874028
/thread

[Anonymous No.4874049]

>>4874028
that's not the worst that could happen. The worst that could happen is that you be resurrected for torture and sport by callous evil future world.

[Anonymous No.4874145]

>>4874049
The year is 2437, after the century of troubles and the great conflict between the worshipers of two different forks of a great machine intelligence. A robot expedition to recover the icy ruins that were once Houston Texas, uncovers the miraculously intact ruins of a cryogenics facility, its power having been converted to self-sufficiency in 2313. Inside hundreds and hundreds of people lay frozen. Following the machine-senate's resolution of 2399 the definition of "death" has been narrowed to apply only to a state of irrecoverable decay or damage to a neural network. Thus all people still frozen are legally considered "alive". There is thus no true legal burden to 'revive' the frozen people, as they are both stable and alive.

However, it also means that they are required to adhere to the laws of the new world even while frozen. The thought crime measures passed by the republican controlled legislative-beowulf-clustering of 2402, have resulted in your frozen neural patterns as being judged dangerous and illegal. Thus you are revived, and plugged into a matrix where you are forced to endure a series of engineered hellish scenarios in tricky attempt to reprogram your neural patterns into accord with socially acceptable limits. Its not the most efficient system, but society decided, to prefer pre-retribution to prehabilitation in a justice system.

Those whose neural networks were not deemed "dangerous" were left frozen until such time as value could be shown in reviving them.

[Anonymous No.4874649]

>>4873604
oddly enough, that is exactly what my home office looks like

[Anonymous No.4874688]

you guys just keep dreaming about the future instead of making it come true yourselves

no one's gonna save you guys

[Anonymous No.4874693]

>>4874688
Jesus saves all who come to him with an honest heart.

[Anonymous No.4875215]

>>4874688

i haven't posted in this thread until now, but i want you to be assured; i'm working on it, but i'm not making any big claims.

[Anonymous No.4875223]

>>4875215
I'm with this guy. I'm working on it as well.

[Anonymous No.4877057]

I can't wait for you all to upload your brains to computers, then bam, one idiot comes along and deletes system 32 and you're fucked.

[Anonymous No.4877070]

>>4877057

>Not backing up your brain

[Anonymous No.4877073]

>4000 AD
>From this point onwards, computer science becomes obsolete as a field of study - the only "unknowns" left for researchers to discover will be in other areas of science

fuck this I'm switching to physics

[Anonymous No.4877076]

>>4877057
I can't wait for you all to use fleshy cells for your brain, then BAM, one idiot comes along and performs a lobotomy on you and you're fucked.

[Anonymous No.4877077]

>>4873972
> What's the point of extending your physical lifespan to hundreds of years if you're mostly a worthless vegetable for the vast majority of it?

Because it's baby steps, you fucking retard. A simple heart operation after a heart attack or blockage problem can extend your life by 15-25 years. So life extension can just give you that little bump. For a billionaire, that's a great deal. He already has a very high standard of living and so a measley 5-10 bump is more than worth it. He will still have the best of care: SERVANTS, particularly. Even if you became an invalid, servants help that immensely. As long as you can think clearly and enjoy family and good food.

And yet, billionaires aren't doing ANYTHING like that. So there's another, important social force at work. Care to guess what that is? Hint: It rhymes with "Violent Simian".

[Anonymous No.4877079]

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>2012
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[Anonymous No.4877081]

>>4873119
>>4873119
>>4873119

NO, WE DON'T! Just because they've build nanoscale proof of concepts, does'nt mean technology is anywhere even near for an actual practical application (if it ever will).

[Anonymous No.4877089]

>>4877077
>billionaires are the apex of humanity
Cool story bro.

Billionaires spend all their time doing shit that earns them money, once they have all the money they spend all their time having fun with those moneys and blowing coke, they never have to fight adversity, they never dream. They don't have spritual amibtions, they don't have visions of the future, they just have dead hard cash ambitions and some shallow views of status and display. They never think "what happens in ten years", they only think that "oh in one year my super luxury island retreat will be complete and equipped with ten thousand whores around the clock"

And when they get a stroke after vacuuming in half a pound of coke, they'll turn cripple and their life will collapse, it will be too late both in age, activity and cognition to do anything but dream of your wild coked out past by then.

[Anonymous No.4877098]

>>4877089
Oh but they are, Rupert Murdoch's media empire told me so.

[Anonymous No.4877117]

>all dose predictions

Weren't we supposed to have flying cars 20 years ago?

[Anonymous No.4877123]

>>4877117

Stuff like that was predicted by sci-fi who didn't understand science.

If you want a display of how accurately intelligent people can predict the future just read Jules Verne's "Paris in the Twentieth Century".

[Anonymous No.4877125]

>>4877117
The're call helicopters, they never became popular for the home user though.

[Anonymous No.4877126]

>>4877117

Turns out that third dimension is really hard to navigate in, so we only let people called "pilots" use them.

[Anonymous No.4877145]

>>4874145
that's a decent worst case scenario.