/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4848906]

>do graduate research on dark matter
>birthday party of relative
>family gathering
>talking about my work
>nobody believes in things they can't see

ITT:
>scientific oblivious relatives

[Anonymous No.4848916]

dude.. Hug me

[Anonymous No.4848917]

>>4848906

yet they believe in god don't they

[Anonymous No.4848925]

>nobody believes in things whose effects they can't perceive
>fix'd

[Anonymous No.4848926]

>>4848906
Even explaining how the sun works is like.. "oh thats, cool" and by cool they mean they aren't interested because who the fuck cares about science and the universe all I want to do is buy things and fuck people reproduce and die

[Anonymous No.4848946]

>be chemical physics major with a focus on environmental applications
>environmental geo minor
>written about 40 pages of papers worth of things about why certain types of nuclear reactors are an excellent bridge until we find a really clean and economically feasible new method of power generation
>go to relative's house
>his whole family are art majors or psych majors or something like that
>they are always talking about "ban nuclear"
> BUT THE WASTE HOW DO YOU HANDLE THE WASTE
> FOR THE CHILDREN

[Anonymous No.4848943]

my dad is like that, he doesn't believe in anything about space basically. things that we can see pictures of like galaxies he believes in but things like how start work and that stuff, nope. but of the plus side he also doesnt really believe in any god, he is a Cristian but doesnt pray or anything, and when i asked him why i should join the church his answer was that my wife may want to get maied in one, and its easier if you already are part of it then. so at least he is skeptical about everything, and ill take that above anything else, because he knows nothing about science but has never fallen for anything like balancing hologram arm-braces or homeopathy or anything.

[Anonymous No.4848951]

Happened to a friend of mine:
>Be playing some kind of jeopardy board game with step family in Canada
>Question is how much gravity is on Earth's surface
>Answers 9.81 meters per seconds squared
>Family answers "Wrong: 9.81m/s, not squared"
>Tell them there's an error on the card's text
>They trust the game anyway

[Anonymous No.4848958]

No it just doesn't affect their daily lives nor does it have any potential for making a lot of money. You have to explain your research in a way that has a link to everyday life or how it will positively help society. Thems the breaks kids. Learn to adapt or cry more.

[Anonymous No.4848959]

I'll listen to your research on dark matter.

A few weeks ago I was home explaining my research on gravity waves to my parents. After a while my mom says "who cares???" Meanwhile she spends every night watching american idol, biggest loser, the bachelorette, what not to wear, amazing race, all those fake reality tv shows. I also get criticized for not going to church, and I remember one time she said "science can't explain everything, how do you explain things like ESP?"

[Anonymous No.4848970]

Mother: "They do lots of bio-med research at <university>"
Me: "What, why would I do that?"
Mother: "Well I just thought that it could be another option for you"
Me: "But mum, I'm reading physics"
Mother: "Whats the difference? Research is research"
Me:...

Actual conversation I had with my mother. It made me both sad and angry at the same time.

[Anonymous No.4848966]

>>4848946
Hey don't let that make you think all art majors are retards.. #1 I'm going for vidya game design which is still art.. and I am the most pro science person I know.. I try to find out as much as I can before making statements and actually changing my thoughts on things that people present.. If I was confident enough in my mathematics I would go for an astrophysics career path.. but I don't know if I'd be able to work on things that require a great deal of math. Makes me sad.. So the only other thing I can do is create and try to convince people to open their eyes to science

[Anonymous No.4848984]

>math major
>interested in pure math more than the 300k
>people think I'm supposed to know everything "hard" just because I'm a math major
>"So I watched this show about like wormholes and the universe and I figured you can probably end up finishing Einstein's work! Have you started working on it yet?"
>mfw

>discussing something that involves calculation
>ask something like "What's 23.78 times 5.6?" to friend with calculator on phone in hand
>"I don't know you're the math major!"
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4848982]

>>4848951
I hate this.

[Anonymous No.4848998]

>>4848946
There is an inverse relationship between willingness to speak with confidence in a subject and actual knowledge in that subject.

[Anonymous No.4849011]

>>4848998
Based on...?

[Anonymous No.4849009]

>Biotechnologist
>"Hey Anon, my knee hurts, do you know why? How can I make it stop?"
>"I don't know, I'm not a doctor, so you should see a medic."
>"I thought you were a biologist!"
>"Well, I, you know, it's just that...*groan*"

[Anonymous No.4849033]

>>4849011

I guess you've never taken part in any sort of conversation with normal people about nuclear energy.

It's for the best, because that guy is right.

[Anonymous No.4849223]

>Parents non religious
>Parents are fascinated by pop science documentaries on everything from nature to astronomy, and are genuinely interested to know how things work.
>Take great pleasure in explaining things they saw on documentaries to me, then think I'm some sort of super genius when I clarify something they didn't understand and go into more depth for them (I'm a Physics undergrad).

Feels pretty good.

The other day home visiting from university, my parents were telling me about this interesting show they saw the other day. My dad then starts explaining to me how a rainbow works. How it's always at the same angle and what not.

Kind of puts things into perspective for you. For someone from a science background, this stuff is all highschool physics and completely obvious. But you have to remember that what you take for granted other people find interesting. For example I don't find it interesting that a rainbow is always at the same angle. It's just obvious that the colours will refract at given angles. But to a non-scientist who has no idea how it works, to find out it's always the same no matter where you are on earth, and always a segment of a circle, it's interesting to them. Whereas to me it's just the application of the bit of Physics, the easy bit at the end.

[Anonymous No.4849230]

History friend here.

I don't know a lot about science, but what I do know is not the full extent of the subject. So when I'm around family members that are majors in some field of science or mathematics I believe them over being an idiot and just proclaiming I know more than them.

But shit like this happens to me all the time.
>Studying ancient Mayan culture stuff
>friend comes up to me asking about the 2012 predictions
>jokingly say it's going to happen, say something along the lines of "Yes, the Mayans calender is infallible and it's sure to happen."
>He freaks out and gets really scared
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4849237]

>>4848946

Thanks. Safe and advanced nuclear needs to be proliferated for the medium term.

[Anonymous No.4849238]

>>4849230

why are you even here ?

[Toasty !gn3CQCJSIU No.4849245]

>nobody believes in things they can't see
Like, I don't know, fucking GOD?

Atheists: 1
Religious folk: 0

[Anonymous No.4849259]

You can't see everything.

You can make tools to perceive things though.

[Anonymous No.4849267]

>>4849238
Because I'm interested in science.

[Anonymous No.4849265]

>>4848966

>retard

[Anonymous No.4849282]

>Huge interest in astronomy and astrophysics
>Dad is intrigued, starts asking questions
>Explaining to him the anatomy of a galaxy, spiral arms, different shapes etc.
>Points at the nucleus
>"So the bright point is the sun and all these other bright points are the planets?"
>fuck

[Anonymous No.4849296]

This happens in most every field that requires some iota of passion though. My girlfriend is a music major and talks about music theory, and about certain musical pieces that are tough to play and blahblahblah. I can't help but stare at her and not say anything.

Just talk about the things you care strongly about with others who feel the same.

[Anonymous No.4849308]

>> whenever I start talking about stuff like hyper cubes, quantom mechanics, etc (i know enough about qm to know that i know nothing about it, but it is still fasinating) he always procedes to ask, "what holds the universe up?"

>>

[Anonymous No.4849319]

>Discussing mathematics with ANYONE
>Love mathematics
>Everyone else is just too fucking ignorant
>Tell them I'm soon to attend grad school for math
>"What can you do with that? Like, be an actuary?"
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4849318]

i broke up with my girlfriend because everytime i brought even the slight hint of a science conversation with my friends she would make a big deal out of it and want to change subjects. it got to the point where if she is around, we could not talk about things we like because it would make her feel "left out". then she walked around wondering why we dint have anything to talk about.

[Anonymous No.4849321]

>>4849296
My brother studies music theory, whenever he talks about something music related it sounds completely alien.

[Anonymous No.4849323]

i have incorporated science into religion. i really dont want to explain it right now...

[Anonymous No.4849334]

>>4849323
Science and religion are counter opposites. Religion is intrinsically tied to faith which is precisely the opposite of the scientific method.

[Anonymous No.4849339]

>>4849334
ok stop right there.
make a new thread.
this one is going well without this shit.

[Anonymous No.4849344]

>say to your mother that you want to study humanities
>she responds: "well anon, you know that you are going to spend most of time taking care of old people not traveling or something"
>mfw she doesnt know difference between humanities and humanitarian

[Anonymous No.4849346]

>>4849339
>going well
>Thinks a thread on /sci/ could be "going well"

[Anonymous No.4849348]

Get asked what you study.
>Answer: "Math"
>"That's so hard, I could never do that".
>"You must be very smart".
>I hated my math teacher
>math is boring
>math is useless unless you're a physicist

Also,
>Studying
>Get asked "What are you doing?".
>Answer that you're trying to prove pi
>"Shouldn't you leave that to someone smarter?".

Pic inversely related to my reality.

[Anonymous No.4849351]

>>4849334
>> 'too deep for you' hurrrrrr

[Anonymous No.4849356]

>>4849348
This is my experience entirely. People are so ignorant about math

[Anonymous No.4849362]

>>4849348
>trying to prove pi
>implying it wasn't proven to death already

[Anonymous No.4849367]

>>4849238
Folks like are the reason why the populace doesn't appreciate science.

>>4849230
econ bro here

I'm adequately competent myself, especially with maths. Friends and relatives aren't appreciative though. Parents are even young-earth creationists... dat fucking feel.

[Anonymous No.4849377]

>Chemistry major
>At BBQ
>Various relatives and friends
>Make conversation with a few people, telling them about my current occupation and future plans
>'Oh wow, you study chemistry? I bet you good make some really 'dank' crystals then like Walter White!
>dank
>50 year old saying dank
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4849381]

>>4848906
Look on the bright side you aren't a climatologist or someone who does animal testing. You haven't gotten department wide nastygrams, had to report a firebomb, or had your research materials 'liberated.'

[Anonymous No.4849386]

>>4849319
>not responding '300k starting etc.'

[Anonymous No.4849387]

>>4849377

Well can you?

[Anonymous No.4849405]

>>4849319
>>"What can you do with that? Like, be an actuary?"
to be fair, "most" "people" who "study math" are actually doing applied math and focusing on statistics.

[Anonymous No.4849415]

>>4849362
---------- Joke

---------- LEO

---------- Your head

[Anonymous No.4849416]

>>4849381
>ivory tower problems

[nasafag No.4849612]

Scientists who really understand their field at a higher level can explain it to an educated person of any background in a way they can understand and appreciate. Yes, this truly is one of the hardest responsibilities of a scientist, but also one of the most important.

[Anonymous No.4849635]

>>4849612
Never gonna happen mainstream (which is a damn shame). Most scientist are too far up their own asses to understand the importance of explaining things in a way so the rest of the public can understand them. They look down on others than cry when funding, policy, and interest goes down the shitter.

[Anonymous No.4849669]

>>4848970
The suggestion that you shouldn't be here because you aren't a science student has make me furious.

[Anonymous No.4849682]

>at family gathering
>play game where you have to shout out a word beginning with a certain letter of a given category
>category is animals, letter is P
>shout out parrot
>whole family won't give me the point because "A parrot is a bird not an animal!"

[Anonymous No.4849687]

>>4849682

Lol
This is actually a fairly common misconception that a 'animal' has to be a mammal.

[Anonymous No.4849692]

>>4849416
I think firebombs are problematic for everyone everywhere.
>>4849612
There's not much point explaining stuff to everyone. It makes much more sense to focus on teaching the people who are in a position to devote their lives to science.

[Anonymous No.4849700]

my boss once asked me "So which is bigger, the sun or the earth?"

nope'd so hard

[Anonymous No.4849704]

>>4849682
i feel bad for your family.

[Anonymous No.4849707]

>>4849687
>common misconception that a 'animal' has to be a mammal
No that's not common that's retarded.

I'll assume your American

[Anonymous No.4849715]

>>4849707
>I'll assume your American
>your

[Anonymous No.4849714]

>>4848959
http://www.cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2010/11/12/psychic-precognition-may-exist-cornell-stu
dy-finds

[Anonymous No.4849717]

>>4849707

I hear people bitch about this all the time, not in real life though, but on the internet, so it has to be common.

I've never heard anyone say it in real life apart from maybe once in my entire lifetime.

I bet people in the United States do say it alot.

[Anonymous No.4849722]

>>4849707

>common misconception that a 'retard' has to be an American

I'll assume you're from the UK

[the game No.4849728]

>>4849717
>Anecdotal evidence thread general?
Anecdotal evidence thread general

[Anonymous No.4849740]

>>4849682
here

just so you all know, i'm british. My family are just all uneducated retards, I on the otherhand am an astrophysicist. I think i'm adopted.

[Anonymous No.4849741]

>dad wont believe the iss only around 330km high
>has to look for laptop and look it up
>still skeptical and starts questioning that man can go to space

[Anonymous No.4849737]

>>4849717
I bet people in the United States do say it alot.
>alot

[Anonymous No.4849743]

>Psychology major
>Somebody brings up schizophrenia
>"So basically, you have split personality disorder."
I...

[Anonymous No.4849776]

>>4849743
>psychology major

[Anonymous No.4849795]

>>4849776
Bit knee-jerk there, chief. Try to suppress the urge in the future.

[Anonymous No.4849977]

>>4848998
Extremely true. Notice how scientists carefully word their sentences and when in a casual conversation, they start with "as far as I know" or similar.

[Anonymous No.4849985]

>>4849795
Sorry - I thought this was /sci/

[Anonymous No.4850061]

>>4849743

been there... also "i had a strange dream last night, can you explain it to me??" or "oh now i have to watch out what i'm saying"

all of my rage

[Anonymous No.4850107]

>psychology majors

lol. sorry, i thought this was a board for science and math

[Anonymous No.4850499]

>"Oh so what do you do?"
>"Physics"
>silence
I get this feeling that a lot of people just don't even know what physics is. If it was chemistry it's easy to understand because everyone knows what chemicals are and seen the mad scientist in his lab in movies but in physics it's like this big grey area that no one seems to know.

[Anonymous No.4850508]

>tfw all my family is computer scientists, engineers, and radical atheists.
>tfw can't even talk to them about anything else.

[Anonymous No.4850523]

>>4849348

LOLOLOLOL

[Anonymous No.4850546]

>>4850499
Physics is also pretty broad. You could be doing subatomic particles like most losers and not contributing to society, or you could by a mathfag who's trying to solve the n body problem, or maybe you're just a glorified materials scientist.

[Anonymous No.4850566]

>>4848925
>2012
>not perceiving the gravitational effects of dark matter
>not knowing about the bullet cluster
>not knowing about rotation curves
>not knowing high school astronomy

[Anonymous No.4850575]

>studying computer science and software engineering
>can you fix my computer?

[Anonymous No.4850578]

My scientifically oblivious relative is my professor, who is currently rejecting all of my ideas that i want to include on my poster for a conference. I'm fucking pissed because I payed out of pocket all the money for this and she will not approve any of my ideas. It's like the fucking dark ages

[Anonymous No.4850584]

>>4848946
Can you maybe post one of your papers? My gut feeling is to support nuclear, but I dont have any concrete reasons too.

[Anonymous No.4850886]

>>4850584
I would also like this please.

[Anonymous No.4850933]

>>4848998
this is true

[Anonymous No.4850934]

So much autism in this thread... can't. stop. laughing...

[Anonymous No.4850948]

post the nuclear papers

[Anonymous No.4850958]

Post the papers.

[Anonymous No.4850968]

>studying field theory
>"What are you reading about?"
>Abstract Algebra
>"What's that about?"
>Well, you know... stuff...

How am I supposed to reply?

[Anonymous No.4851013]

philosophy major here:
>discussing hegelian dialectic with extended relatives
>examining the implications of being-in-itself in the relationship between lord and bondsman.
>they provide an existential interpretation of slave self-consciousness, supposing an exile from the nothingness of self.
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4851033]

Keep this thread alive so that guy can post those papers tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4851041]

>in calc 2 class
>with friend that is in engineering(forget which one)
>asks what I'm taking
>biochem
>says, ohh that's a hard program
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4851183]

>>4848970
Working in a hospital or medicine is about the only way any of my family can conceive the existence of science or how my physics degree could be used.

[Anonymous No.4851190]

>>4849223
The higher your altitude, the greater the arc length. Until, when high enough, you see the complete circle.

[Anonymous No.4851191]

>>4851041
He's just trying to be nice.

[Anonymous No.4851500]

>>4851041
He probably assumed you went to school to get a real degree and not waste your parents money, so he thought you were a chemical engineer.

[Anonymous No.4851520]

>be on /sci/
>alot of popsciencehipster posting in a thread about oblivious relatives
>everyone in thread is obviously oblivious too, otherwise they would be posting in an actual sci/math thread like >>4851408
>everyone who passes highschool thinks he's a science genius

[Anonymous No.4851525]

>>4851520
>be on /sci/
>pseudoscience hype everywhere
>Christians using higgs as proof of god

[Anonymous No.4851551]

>>4850968
I'd say "abstract mathematical structures"

[Anonymous No.4851554]

>>4851551
I prefer just saying "It's kind of like what they use in facebook"

If I ever don't feel like answering any question I just drop that and everybody just kind of nods.

[Anonymous No.4851566]

>>4851554
I usually give an actual fulllength explanation of the problem I'm solving and they look at me like I'm from /r9k/.

[Anonymous No.4851574]

>>4851566
Well yeah no shit.

Just abstract it to the point where they'll realize they won't understand it.

Hence. "It's kind of like what they use in facebook"

[Anonymous No.4851579]

>>4851525

well it makes sense... its "the GOD particle". its what makes the particle exist in the first place.

the higgs is to scientist what god is to christians. they cant prove it but they use data/miracles as evidence to support their theories

[Anonymous No.4851591]

>nobody believes in things they can't see

Your entire family are athiests?

[Anonymous No.4851595]

not family but
>meet two humanities students
>'you research math, what does that even mean?'
>tell them I take two numbers and work out which ones bigger
>mfw they believed me

[Anonymous No.4851688]

>>4850948
>>4850958
>>4850886
>>4850584
Yeh jesus christ this. can't believe it took most of the thread until someone asked.

I'm a BA Graduate and Pro-Nuclear and it's a fucken pain having so many people around you anti-nuclear and all their arguments are completely emotional rather than rational

[Anonymous No.4851695]

>>4851595
>'you research math, what does that even mean?'
god i fucking hate that question, and also "what can you do with a mayh degree? teach?"
>implying the dumb plebs that ask me what i do would understand if i told them
gonna use the comparing numbers line next time

[Anonymous No.4851698]

>>4851595
>I study math
>Ohhhh, I hate math, I'm so bad at it.
>Yeah, it's pretty tough. You start out with normal problems freshman year, but by senior year we were multiplying 10 digit numbers together and doing long division on 15 digit numbers!

[Anonymous No.4851699]

>math? how do you do research in math?
>i perform arithmetic and enter the results into tables that will be entered into the next generation of calculators. we have made great progress with multiplication in the last 5 years

[Anonymous No.4851706]

>>4851698

Oh god, my sides

[Anonymous No.4851722]

>>4849635
I bet you don't know any actual scientist, do you?

[Anonymous No.4851723]

>>4851013
Don't worry, soon you'll have your own board.

[Anonymous No.4851726]

>>4851579
I wish there was a way to punch people over the Internet.

[Anonymous No.4851753]

>>4849635
There are plenty of scientists who are open minded and willing to share their subject to anyone who listens. It's just that no one wants to learn about science and would rather spend all of their time watching movies or listening to music, instead of devoting some time to learning about what actually goes on in the world.

Just go to a university and sit in a lecture. The scientists who do lecture are the ones who are willing to share.

[Anonymous No.4851777]

>riding bus
>bike in rack
>reading discrete math book
>get off and go to get bike
>random guy comes up to me
>what level of math is that?
>tell him
>but what level is it?
>well its above calculus
>just to shut him up
>but what level is it?
>driver hanks horn
>angry face
>get bike
>leave man to his confusion

[Anonymous No.4852004]

Bumpin for that guy to post the nuclear papers.

[Anonymous No.4852052]

>Father is Microbiologist
>Mother is Botanist
>Aunt is Zoologist
>Uncle is Physicist
>2 uncles are surgeons
>Only a few arts students in extended family.
I have no idea how you guys feel, but it must be awful so I'll share some stories from primary school.

>We are all told to do a project that's not about an animal.
>Everybody does either a bird or an insect
>Ask why teacher is letting this happen when birds are still animals and insects meet the definition of an animal.
>Teacher punishes me and tells me I'm wrong.
She also told me that pi was exactly 3.14 EXACTLY 3.14, I was punished when I corrected her.

[Anonymous No.4852049]

>>4850061
>"oh now i have to watch out what i'm saying"
>mfw I actually used that line on some psychology bitch while being drunk as hell

[Anonymous No.4852089]

not studying yet
>be dutch, going to study physics
>dutch word for physics would translate into something like "nature-ology"
>people ask what Im going to study
>say physics
>"ah interesting... So you're learning things about plants and birds and stuff"
>makes me feel sad
>mfw

also, tfw your mother believes in spirits of dead people etc

[Anonymous No.4852116]

Bumping for that paper on nuclear stuff

[Anonymous No.4852136]

>Majoring in physics
>Family asks about my general interests
>Eventually mention quantum mechanics
>aunt proclaims: "Oh, I think I know about that. I have a book entitled 'quantum love' o rsomething like that"

[Anonymous No.4852159]

>>4852089

Die heb ik maar één keer gehoord, van een keidom wijf. Na wat uitleg had ik dr zover dat ze dacht dat ik dingen met reageerbuisjes en stofjes deed, daar heb ik het maar bij gelaten

[Anonymous No.4852177]

>>4848966
I know alot of people are laughing with videogamedesigners on /sci/ and /g/, but I actually think it's a cool job and one of the nicest things to do. The only reason I'm not doing it is because I think there are just too many people who want to do it. Don't really regret it, but I do get mad when people make fun of videogamedesigners. Designing videogames can be very challenging.

[Anonymous No.4852180]

>majoring in physics
>grandma doesn't understand what physics is
>heard that I will eventually have the title "Dr."
>years later and she still thinks I'm going to be a MEDICAL doctor

>mfw she tells her friends this

[Anonymous No.4852183]

>>4848951
>Q:how much gravity is on Earth's surface
>A:9.81m/s^2
How can nobody on /sci/ say anything about this..

[Anonymous No.4852187]

>>4849230
>I don't know a lot about science
>>>away

[Anonymous No.4852186]

>>4848951
>they think that g is measured in velocity

[Anonymous No.4852194]

>>4852183
>> on /sci/
There's your problem But, what a fucked up question is this anyway

[Anonymous No.4852196]

>>4848946
It's almost been 24 hours since this post. We need them papers.

[Anonymous No.4852198]

>>4851183
I hate saying this but: I know that feel.

[Anonymous No.4852206]

>>4852194
That was my point..
The question makes no sense. and even if they meant gravitational force or even field, the answer would be wrong..

[Anonymous No.4852209]

>>4852186
*acceleration
I'm going to give you the benefit of assuming you just made a silly mistake and not calling you a retard.

[Anonymous No.4852215]

>>4852209
Not who you were quoting, but he was saying that THEY thought it was measured in m/s, hence velocity.

[Anonymous No.4852218]

>>4852180
>tfw my mother tells everyone Im going to study astroLoGy
>tfw I probably wont even make it through my first year

I'd like to see those papers too btw

>>4852209
wutno, he meant that this step family thinks g is measured in velocity

[Anonymous No.4852222]

>tfw your relatives make a genuine effort to become more scientifically literate so they can better understand what you do for a living
Feels good man... feels real fucking good. I don't think my folks will be sitting in on one of my department's seminars any time soon, but they're making enough of an effort to understand the basics about the stuff I'm studying.

[Anonymous No.4852221]

>>4852215
holy fuck..
all this time.. I WAS THE RETARD

[Anonymous No.4852225]

>>4852218
>that fucking feel
>every time I'm introduced by someone else they say I'm majoring in astrology
>my fucking face

[Anonymous No.4852228]

>>4852218
>wutno, he meant that this step family thinks g is measured in velocity
>thinks g is measured in velocity
>measured in velocity

Velocity sure is a good unit.

[Anonymous No.4852229]

>>4852228
well... yea... I was just quoting
>>4852186

[Anonymous No.4852230]

had to explain to my mum that the universe is different to the solar system

[Anonymous No.4852231]

>tfw I just explained my father what a dimension is so that he would never missuse it as a trancendental gateway to another spacial dimension like plebs tend to do.
>tfw my family doesn't know alot about science, but once you explain it them, they listen interested and remember what you told them
>mfw I threw out my mothers the Secret book and told her she shouldn't be reading that crap
They're quite cool about it actually. They don't really care about it (which they don't have to obviously), but if they say something dumb, you can correct them and they'll believe you know your shit, cause you're the one who's studying.

[Anonymous No.4852243]

>>4852222
I love that feel. My dad's a blue collar kind of guy but when I started my physics degree he started subscribing to science magazines and reading up on basic physics so he'd be able to talk to me about some of the stuff I was studying in school. (Apparently the guys at work think he's a huge nerd now.)

[Anonymous No.4852267]

>>4852243
I'm a dude and your a dude and the guy you're talking about (your dad) is a dude too. Still I think that supercute.

[Anonymous No.4852270]

>>4852222
Love that feel, one of my younger sisters started learning more about science and engineering when she was in high school to try and understand what her big brother was doing in college. She went from cheerleader to chemistry nerd in four years and is starting a Chem degree in the Fall.

Nice quads btw

[Anonymous No.4852273]

>>4852243
I'm a dude and you're a dude and the guy you're talking about (your dad) is a dude too. Still I think that is supercute.

[Anonymous No.4852301]

>>4852273
>supercute
If you had said "your post makes me want to fuck your dad" it would've sounded less gay.

[Anonymous No.4852479]

Where's them Nuclear papers?

[Anonymous No.4852489]

>>4851500
>>4851520
I dunno. He's supposedly the engineer yet I always do better in calc class.

[Anonymous No.4852516]

Most science is pearls to the pigs. Especially maths. Nothing to see here.

[Anonymous No.4852593]

My mother still doesn't believe that x^0!=0
>If you combine something with zero, it becomes zero, everyone knows that

[Anonymous No.4852601]

>>4852593
My neighbour still don't believe that the Earth rotate around the sun.

[Anonymous No.4852626]

>>4852222
>>4852243
>>4852270
>my family will never be like this

[Anonymous No.4852628]

>>4852593
first of all x^(0!)=x^1=x

Now we got that typo out of the way: just prove it.
My father didn't believe it either so I just quikly proved it on a napkin.

you know that: x^a/x^b = x^(a-b)
so: 1 = x^a/x^a=x^(a-a)=x^0 Q.E.D
Even a /b/tard could understand that.

[Anonymous No.4852707]

I hate greentexting but when in Rome:

>Physics undergrad
>family can only conceive of that leading to an MD or engineering
>``What is this leading to'', etc.

However:

>talking to this schizophrenic guy outside 7/11
>he hasn't worked for 25 years, legally obligated to take his prescribed antipsychotic(s) otherwise he may be put in an institution
>tell him what I do
>he asks what areas of research I might be interested in

That restored my faith somewhat.

[Anonymous No.4852847]

That one guy needs to post those nuclear papers.

[Anonymous No.4852893]

>>4852628
>But anon, what if x = 0? Your proof assumes x =/= 0

[Anonymous No.4852908]

My dad is into science insofar that he spent most of his life in a steelworks and understands a lot of old fashioned engineering and metallurgy principles. He's the old fashioned type who sneers at engineering degree holders (calling them girls, gay etc) and learned everything on the job.

The rest of my family don't care either way, apart from my second cousin who went to Oxford and got a double first in Physics and Mathematics.

[Anonymous No.4852993]

>be first year physics student
>parents watch big bang theory
>"sooo anon, what's your take on string theory"
>"It's the most amazing theory ever, it will help us predict the future and stuff only using 3 variables!"

>mfw they think I am a genius

[Anonymous No.4853155]

God dammit, post those nuclear papers.

[a faggot !vTzefCbiZ. No.4853240]

This.

[Anonymous No.4853248]

>>4848906
only in america

[Anonymous No.4853323]

nuclear papers!

[Anonymous No.4853649]

>>4852628
By != I meant =/=

[Anonymous No.4853718]

>>4853323
Post the nuclear papers

[Anonymous No.4853764]

Lying to your family wont make them appreciate your job more

[Anonymous No.4853794]

>mfw people say nuclear is bad because it can explode.
>tell them about LFTR.
>mfw they still says It's bad because it can explode.
A thousand suns does not contain the rage if someone that has relatives that don't understand that there can't be a hydrogen explosion if there is no hydrogen to be found.

[Anonymous No.4853818]

>>4851698

Then they think you're a retarded calculator.
Fuck you for giving bad impressions to mathematicians.

[Anonymous No.4853847]

>>4849282
I actually lol'd

[Anonymous No.4853862]

>Not having a parent who has the same degree that you're currently trying to get

[Anonymous No.4853882]

Well, I'm Indian and I have the exact same problem as OP, except of a slightly different nature.
My family is very eager and interested in new ideas, discoveries, and modern theories, but they never give up old archaric ideas either.
Like, they'll ask me to explain more about what I'm studying and they'll be very interested, they won't always take the time to try and understand completely, but they always end up talking about some metaphysical or spiritual shit that bares no congruence to any rational model of reality. It's rather frustrating to talk with my parents.

[Anonymous No.4853884]

>>4853862
Why would i want to get the same degree as one of my parents? I rather go my own way.

[Anonymous No.4853938]

Bump for the papers

[Anonymous No.4853954]

>ChemE major
>dad is a barely literate blue collar worker
>scorns my major because i'm only book smart and will be lost on the job when "i start building lawn mowers"
>try to explain that i work mostly with heat and energy while briefly mentioning what i'm doing at my current research lab
>"you're wasting your time anon, all them jobs going to china and those gooks. the governments stealing your money and givin' it to the blacks."
>he goes on to attempt to compare my 4+ years of college to his two years of trade school that he had 30 years ago
>says it should only take 20 hours a week maximum and i shouldn't even have to study for my tests
>mfw

I'm not even bothering to tell him that I'm applying for grad school this year. Thankfully my mom went to college for computer programming, so she understands and have had her for logical advice and support.

[Anonymous No.4853991]

>>Talking about Evolution with best friend
>>He disregards logic
>>His main argument is that "You weren't there so you can't know".
>>Tell him that on those grounds you could release half the prison population.
>>He calls me an idiot

wtf

[Anonymous No.4854325]

>>4854223
>>4854223
>>4854223
>>4854223
>>4854223
>>4854223
>>4854223

[Anonymous No.4854532]

I'm going to go ahead and assume he made up all those "papers" he wrote.

[Anonymous No.4854542]

>>4854532

I assume all purported achievements on /sci/ are fabricated until proven otherwise.
It is telling that there is no other board on 4chan I do this with.

[Anonymous No.4854543]

>>4854542
You don't with /b/? By God you are trusting!

[Anonymous No.4854544]

>>4854543

Sorry: boards I visit.

[Anonymous No.4854547]

>>4848906
Make them feel stupid by bringing up the plenty of things that you have definitive proof of that is "invisible" like gravity, electromagnetic fields, and WIMP's. Or bring up the predicted existence of Neptune. Or bring up any of the number of theories that have gone from abstract theory to observable fact like relativity and quantum mechanics.

[Anonymous No.4854551]

>>4848906

>Dark Matter

I can see why they wouldn't take you seriously OP

[Anonymous No.4854556]

>>4854547

the difference is that the examples you mentioned are detectable

[Anonymous No.4854561]

>>4852707

>That restored my faith somewhat.

why? you're looking at your future

[Anonymous No.4854568]

>>4854561

Well, he was a pretty chilled out guy despite his circumstances so it could be worse.

[Anonymous No.4854619]

>Have a test on grade school biology
>True/false question. State reason why
>Question: Can fish live out of water?
>Answered. Yes. Mudskippers are an example. It can even walk on land!
>Gets results on test. Told teacher that my answer is correct. Explained that there are fishes like that in other areas in the world.
>She gets humiliated because she was corrected by a 9 years old kid.
>Got NOPE'd. And tears paper in front of me.

Why do older people always feel humiliated when corrected at something? When a younger person corrects me I feel embarrassed, sure but at the same time I feel relieved because I got corrected. I'd rather be corrected than wrongly follow something, anytime.

[Anonymous No.4854650]

>mfw people think that being intelligent means you're good at math

Math isn't even a real thing you fucking plebs.

[Anonymous No.4854729]

>>4854619
I know this feel, idk what the deal is.
When someone younger than me corrects me, I feel proud that humanity is producing superior knowledge so rapidly.
It's not a bad thing to be proven wrong.
I think the older set are just from a different... uh... time
pic related, it's the time they're from, so can you really blame them?

[Anonymous No.4854753]

>>4854650
>people think that being intelligent means you're good at math
>math isn't even a real thing you fucking plebs
Get out. This is the first time I'm getting mad on /sci/
GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT.
you fucking popsciencehipsters coming on /sci/ to talk about psychology are making my blood boil.
THE REASON YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MATH BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT CAPABLE OF VISUALIZING AND/OR WORKING WITH ABSTRACT CONCEPTS
THIS MEANS YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT. I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH SHIT YOU CAN MEMORIZE FROM A BOOK. THAT'S NOT HARD. WE CAN ALL DO THAT.

I feel better now.

[Anonymous No.4854765]

^here,
My gfs family are Rastafarians. Yes I live in CA. No this is not a joke, no I am not black, no my gf or her family is not black.
Yes. White Rastafarians.
Her mam got a degree an AS in English, and took some required science courses, as well as statistics.
The bro is a timewaster, non-reader, took some philosophy courses and got all fucked up.
They both smoke the weed constantly. I used to, but I watched the bro turn into a retard/mindslave, and I blame weed, and it makes me not want to.
Together they believe in everything from aliens, chemtrails, NWO, I mean just listen to the lyrics of some of the reggae out there. Babylon and shit.
1
>"I think [the aliens] want the gold"
>me: "Why gold?"
>lol, "Why do humans want gold?"
2
>"The government wants us to be stupid", "Theres evidence that they invented diseases"
>me "Why would they do that"
>"We're overpopulated, they want to kill us off"
3
>"You know how those gay people are" (do drugs, etc.)
>use the word 'prejudism', refuse to accept correction of 'prejudice'
4
>GMOs are bad
>me: why?
>they are less than what real plants are
>they are unnatural
>I bet the soil they grow in is not healthy

[MATHEMATICIAN No.4854775]

>>4854765
Sorry, i meant to have my name as "mathematician", but i got "field to long" and forgot to re-add the name.
So yeah, I'm a math major, heres the rest of the mega post that fucked up my plans:
5
>Crystallized sugar is bad for you
>explanation involves "fat-protein"
>Fertilizer is not really what plants need, plants grown with fertilizer are less healthy
6
>Shuffling your deck makes it less likely you'll draw the card you want
7
>Microwaves are dangerous, decrease nutrition, etc.
8
>White is the absence of all color, black is all the color
I beat this one with "why is space black, plz think about it", I assume this is brainwashing from the reggae music showing itself
9
>We shouldn't be communicating with words
>me: how might we communicate otherwise?
>vibrations, not this [disgusted face and tone] tongue thing we do
>me: that's what speaking is, vibrating the air
>yea, uh, kind of, not really though
10
>I think writing down our rights (bill of rights, laws) actually takes them away
11
>Asks me about math
>I explain about postulates/axioms, mother cuts in, "YEAH thats called faith"
>me: uh... not exactly
>I keep explaining about math shit, bitch says "exactly", "uh-huh", like she knows shit about anything
12
>Mother says she majored in "science"

I could prolly keep going for awhile.
I honestly am not creative enough to make this shit up

[MATHEMATICIAN No.4854787]

I , too, am interested in these papers...

[Anonymous No.4854822]

>>4854532
>>4854542
He's not going to void his anonymity just to appease some insufferable, undeserving undergrad on an image board you fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.4854830]

>>4854822

Yes, because if he linked the papers his name would be forever linked to his handle here.
Oh wait, he posts as Anonymous so that doesn't make any sense - good thinking, dude.

[Anonymous No.4854847]

>>4854830
Riiight, because making sure that people HERE do not know who you are is much more important than people in real life not knowing you browse 4chan because they've seen you post your research there...like some asshole.

There's is absolutely no reason for him to post some, most likely insignificant, papers just so some fucking undergrad who isn't going to understand it anyway can peruse it.

[Anonymous No.4854853]

As far as my parents go, I got lucky. My mom has a PhD (Biochemistry), and while my dad is a landscape architect, he thinks logically and you can have a proper conversation with him about science or math. The only weird thing is, while they're very pro-science for the most part, they're both catholic, and my mother is one of those "condoms are evil", "gays are pedophiles and should be castrated" types. It's actually quite bizarre. You can be having a perfectly rational conversation with them one moment, but if it strays to far towards something that contradicts their religious views, rationality goes out the window.

My sister on the other hand, is interested in pop-sci, but says she never wants to study anything close to science because she doesn't like her high school math classes.

With other relatives, it varies, but for the most part if I mention what I'm studying (CS major, math minor) it inevitably leads to "Can you fix my computer?" or "Can you make computer programs?"

[Anonymous No.4854852]

>>4854847

Conceded. We'll assume that he has acquaintances who would be offended by his post and are likely to browse /sci/, despite how unlikely that is.

[Anonymous No.4854857]

>be sleeping in science class
>slap on my desk
>look up
>teacher yells GET OUT
>I leave
>call my friend der
>he picks me up from school

[Anonymous No.4854888]

>>4849682
How disgusting

>studying Astronomy
>father keeps calling it Astrology
>my mom and I both correct him over and over
>I think he's doing it on purpose or maybe he's just getting old (66?)

[Anonymous No.4854893]

>>4850575
LMAO

[Anonymous No.4854898]

>>4850575
Story #1
>Studying Computer science
>Friends of eco majors ask if I can work for them on some tasks in MSExcel/MSWord
>I said I can't
>Friends: what did you learn in uni?
Why the hell that a cs student has anything to do with MSOffice?
Story #2:
>Studying CS
>Friend ask to fix his PC hardware (totally broken)
>I said I can't
>Friends: what did you learn in uni?
...

[Anonymous No.4854910]

>>4852893
His proof assumes many things that only might be correct.
Leave him be thinking he's smart.

[Anonymous No.4854921]

>>4848906

Grandfather: "Well evolutionists say we come from monkeys, but there are still monkeys, etc..."

Me: "Well actually..."

Mother proceeds to start kicking the shit out of my shins under the table until I stop talking.

[Anonymous No.4854937]

>>4853649
ooow like that
sure than

[Anonymous No.4854945]

>>4854910
It was very clear from the context that it wasn't meant as a real rigorous mathematical proof, but merely a demonstration (nitwit-proof) for his father.

[Anonymous No.4854974]

>mother doesnt believe in anything she cant see (well, she does believe in talking-with-dead-poeple shit)
>Im like "but... gravity..."
>turns out she thinks the earth is flat
Im like pic, still not sure wether she's trolling or not

[Anonymous No.4854979]

>A marxist post-structuralist continental Ecole Normale Supérieure professor and feminist activist was teaching a class on Martin Heidegger, known hermeneuticist.
>”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Nietzsche and accept that his genealogical method was the most highly-evolved theory the continent has ever known, even greater than Hegel's dialectics!”
>At this moment, a brave, rational, positivist analytic philosopher who had read more than 15000 pages of Popper and Wittgenstein and understood the raison d'être of empiricism and fully supported all modern hard sciences stood up and held up the constitution.
>”How universal is this text, frenchfag?"
>The arrogant professor smirked quite Jewishly and smugly replied “It's not universal at all, fucking positivist, its 'truth' is rooted in our shared understandings about culture, the subject and the nexus of power and knowledge”
>”Wrong. It’s been 225 years since human reason created it. If it was not universal, and post-modern relativism, as you say, is real… then it should be regarded as a myth now!”

[Anonymous No.4854983]

>The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of On Grammatology. He stormed out of the room crying those ironic post-modern crocodile tears. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, Michel Foucault, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than an AIDS ridden sadomasochist interested in fisting. He wished so much that he had some kind of truth to hold on to, but he himself had written to disprove it!
>The students applauded and all rolled into American universities that day and accepted Wittgenstein as the end of philosophy. An eagle named “Formal logic” flew into the room and perched atop the copy of "Principa Mathematica" and shed a tear on the hardcover. The last sentence of "Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus" was read several times, and Karl Popper himself showed up and demonstrated how dialectics is nothing but a means of justifying contradictions.
>The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of the gay plague AIDS and his "books" were disregarded for all eternity.
and that's when i quit and became a scientist

[Anonymous No.4855062]

Every year, the governments of the world should issue a test. This test will cover material at a highschool level. If a person fails to get at least 70% of the questions right (because people forget shit as they get older) then they get sent to Antarctica.

[Anonymous No.4855072]

>>4849334
Faith and Reason go 'hand in hand'...

They are actually complimentary wholes.
Faith simply means; "Deep Trust"

How do you know the science is good? Because you have Faith in your Reason, or the Reason of others.

If you take away Faith, you are left with the Global Warming debate! If you take away Reason, you are left with Creationism!

But together you have a cohesive science that builds upon the world.

[Scientist !!ThFjnJh4EkH No.4855079]

>>4855072
Nope. Go away faith-head.
>>>/x/
>>>/b/

[Anonymous No.4855086]

>>4855072
<span class="math">\frac{-\infty}{10}[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.4855092]

Oh god fucking damn do I know this feel, OP. You have no fucking idea how much I know this feel.

>postdoc in math sprinkled with theoretical physics
>every christmas or thanksgiving someone asks in the open what i do
>i start out talking about doughnuts
>now i have to think of a way to mention Witten invariants
>'clacka lacka sham, GRAVITY IS UNIQUE, BITCH!'
>people say 'so you're going to be a teacher?'

>mfw i can't talk to anyone in my family about my research

[Anonymous No.4855100]

>>4849009
>>4849009


Every
fucking
time

Everything related to biology leads people to think you're a fucking doctor

[Anonymous No.4855103]

>>4855079
Insults, no argumentation
>>4855086
Ad Hominem, no argumentation

Do you have anything better than shit posting?
Do you have any evidence to prove me wrong?

The Global Warming 'debate' has been fueled by a constant lack of faith in each side's work!

Scientists on both sides have been fixing their charts and data to the point that we have NO FAITH in the science anymore! Now it has gone stagnant!

Come back when you can actually argue.

[Anonymous No.4855112]

>>4855103
go away. We don't want your kind here.

[Anonymous No.4855140]

>>4849334
>Science and religion are counter opposites.
Which is why we had Catholic monks developing major sciences including; Chemistry, Agriculture, Biology, Mathematics, Architecture, Astronomy, Mathematics etc.
Source; How the Catholic Church built Western Civilization, Tomas E. Woods, Jr. Ph.D.

>Religion is intrinsically tied to faith
You have that flipped around... By putting religion first you are implying that we already have faith in our lives and religion is another facet to it...

Also you have not defined 'Faith', it means; Deep Trust. We have Deep Trust in science as well, we have a Deep Trust in the Scientific Method... You've made an association fallacy...

>**yada yada** opposite of the scientific method.
Actually the Church was on the side of the scientific method during the events with Galileo and the heliocentric theory;

Galileo had 'Blind Faith' in a theory involving the Tides, he thought the rotation of the planet and it's orbit would add or subtract from the motion of the tides.

He even declared that there would be a high tide at mid night and noon.

In the face of the obviously incorrect nature of his 'Proof' he simply said the underwater terrain interfered with the High / Low tides.

The church gave him a compromise to continue teaching it as a theory, until he gained a better proof.
Source; The Sleepwalkers, Arthur Koestler

[Scientist !!ThFjnJh4EkH No.4855145]

>>4855140
>making argument that because catholic monks have made some scientific advances, there is no conflict between science and religion.

Catholic monks will tell you that Jesus rose from the dead. He did not. There's your contradiction.

[Anonymous No.4855148]

>>4855103
You have a definition of faith that most people don't use. Faith is either defined as *complete* confidence in which case it's inherently unscientific, or as belief without sufficient evidence, in which case it isn't either.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/faith

[Anonymous No.4855197]

>Want to eventually go into tissue engineering
>Parents are both former investment banking
>Mom stayed at home, Dad went into Timeshare
>Both parents try to rope me into their various get-rich-quick schemes
>"You can't do anything useful with a degree like that!/You can't make money doing that!"
>Dad forbids talking about science at home
>He talks about nothing but his APG and the various categories of salespeople (Sellers, People falling behind, People who can't sell shit)
>He hasn't sold anything in 6 months and we're having our house foreclosed on because no income + wasting money on crazy schemes
>"Scientists are just salespeople who have convinced people that they're (the scientists) doing useful stuff while they're actually useless!"

>I don't want to live anymore

[Anonymous No.4855425]

>Studying Computer Engineering at uni
>Guy doing Eletrical Eng at the same uni
>He asks me if I am with my laptop
>I ask him why
>He wanted to plug his fuckloaded of virus pendrive for me to fix it(he said the pendrive got some problems with his free anti virus at first, but now isnt even starting when he attach it to his PC)


>My dad's primary SATA disc gets problem
>I told him I didn't know what happened
>What did you learn at the uni?
>raiseleftbrow.avi

>Steve Jobs died
>Everyone asking why I am not crying or having a recess at uni
>Try my hardest not to punch the person in the face
>Facepalm the hardest I can so I wont be bothered answering

AND TWO GOOD MOMENTS :
>44 persons at my class
>1 of them thinks that Basic is master race and everyone should buy Macs since they are prebuilt therefore spec maximized
>He didnt manage to get through the first year

>Same Macfag had to do a major work that would take the entire semester
>He only started working two weeks before endline
>He presented a full built webcam image recognizer and tester that could use his own fingers as a cursor
>Doubted about his work
>Presented code at class
>Complex Code without comments that he couldnt explain, found some custom libraries
>Opened custom libraries
>Comments in chinese
>www.facepalm.notenough/usedwall

[Anonymous No.4855433]

>>4855140

Where's "You were born just in time, explore reality"?

[Anonymous No.4855438]

>>4855433
>>4855140
We can also explore the oceans

we know more about the surface of the moon than the water-covered majority of our own planet

[Anonymous No.4855437]

>>4855425
thanks for the last story

[Anonymous No.4855482]

>people at parties talking about how much they suck at math and how they never need it
>explain how the entire fucking universe is run by math
>they arent even rustled
>start talking about football
>i say i suck at football and will never need it
>they dont even pick up on the parallell
>start talking to me about how football is an integral part of life
>im surrounded by idiots

[Anonymous No.4855486]

I just had one with myself
>cooking pasta
>thinking about the rigid body dynamics as I pour it in a colander and shake it about
>still manage do dump half of it on the floor when I go around a corner with the plate

[Anonymous No.4855502]

>>4855140
The entire point of science is to disbelieve fucking everything, then research it and only believe it if a couple different, non-interdependent researchers all reach the conclusion that it's legit.

Religion involves blindly believing what youre told without any evidence.

The two are not compatible, you cannot be sane, religious and scientifically literate at the same time.

[Anonymous No.4855504]

>psychology major
>talking to old friend
>says 'I'd be good at psychology, I love giving advice to people!'
>mfw

>Mum watching Brian Cox's Wonders of The Universe
>says 'I love learning about space!'
>tell her it's just pop, recommend Sagan and books if she really wants to learn
>says 'No but this looks pretty'
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4855514]

>>4855502
>the whole point of science is to disbelieve everything
No, no it's not. Science is a method. Don't fall into philosophy now.

>religion involves blindly believing without evidence
>can't be religious and sane
CBT is pretty much lying to yourself to break automatic negative thoughts, does that make you insane? Please define insane.

[Anonymous No.4855515]

>>4855504
>implying Sagan isn't just pop too

[Anonymous No.4855551]

>>4855514
An integral part of the scientific method is the null hypothesis, which can be put in layman's terms as DISBELIEVE FUCKING EVERYTHING
until proven otherwise.

Also, what I meant when I mentioned sanity was that I can't imagine being able to reconcile knowledge of the scientific method as a tool for finding truth and believing in anything (espeically religious beliefs) without applying aforementioned method to that belief. It's cognitive dissonance.

[Anonymous No.4855593]

>>4851595
I wonder how Grothendieck would feel about knowing he was a part of a "my face when caption." I've not heard anyone talk about how stupid they're colleagues are yet!

>be in homotopy theory class
>all of us have taken homological algebra
>mfw what's a sheaf

[Anonymous No.4855604]

>>4855504
>tell her it's just pop,
>recommend Sagan and books if she really wants to learn

0/10

[Anonymous No.4855704]

>>4848906
Saturday evening = meeting up with friends, drinking some beer and stuff, talking etc
Friends talk about soccer, the players, their wives and shit.
One friend looks at me, I look back... our eyes meet and suddenly we both began talking about quantum mechanics.
He studies it, I´m merely interested and like to learn but can talk with him about this field.

Friend, female, gets curious about what we two are talking and listens a few seconds... then says "WTF, what shit are you talking about? Who cares about stuff like that and why the heck should it matter to ANYONE?!"

Silence... we both look at her, our other friends look at her and then to her, back and forth, I say "Yeah, because soccer and those over paid bitches running around like idiots would mean anything, anywhen, anywhere"

Other time, we both argue with another friend who wants to tell us that he can divide by zero. *insert meme here*
2 fucking hours. 120 minutes.

>Moon is bigger then the sun and Earth is the biggest!

>Gravity can´t be proven!

>There´s no evidence humans are native to Earth.
"Yeahh well... then the aliens were interstellar monkey fuckers..."

The last ones were from different girlfriends some people tried to integrate into our clique.... I hate it when people get new girlfriends. Always the same shit. "What your interested in?" "well this and this and this etc." "*blank face* *brain reboots* ooooooh look shinies!" either that or their brain crashes completey....

[Anonymous No.4855711]

>>4855704
*look at us and then her

sorry hurried to write it.

[Anonymous No.4855716]

>>4855482
>>4855482

>party
>expecting people to not be complete retards

Get yourself a better friend pool.

[Anonymous No.4855911]

>>4855704
know that feel bro, math teacher explaining sin cos and tan.
>More than half the class start saying that it is useless therefore wount learn it.
>Teacher starts telling funny stories of his life to keep attention from the class, they shut up and listen quietly
>I must be misunderstanding the definition of "useless"

[Anonymous No.4856003]

>>4854775
6
>Shuffling your deck makes it less likely you'll draw the card you want

but that's true, if you put the card so that you would draw it.

[Anonymous No.4856037]

>>4855140
>>Science and religion are counter opposites.
>Which is why we had Catholic monks developing major sciences including; Chemistry, Agriculture, Biology, Mathematics, Architecture, Astronomy, Mathematics etc.
Source; How the Catholic Church built Western Civilization, Tomas E. Woods, Jr. Ph.D.

uhm, ever heard of the romans or the greek? Pythagoras isn't the name of some catholic monk. probably.

[Anonymous No.4856096]

>>4855704
>Other time, we both argue with another friend who wants to tell us that he can divide by zero. *insert meme here*

Why do people always assume they're math geniuses because "hurr I thought of a way to break the rules guys!"

[Anonymous No.4856101]

>>4856096
I'd like to hear his argument by the way.

>inb4 "It's just infinity!"

[Anonymous No.4856104]

>>4848946

Papers please.

[Anonymous No.4856112]

>>4848946

i seriously hope this guy isn't full of shit and copped out.

[Anonymous No.4856114]

>observation doesn't match prediction
>must be dark matter

[Anonymous No.4856128]

>>4856114
That line of thought worked for finding Neptune, so it's not that absurd, and people are currently trying to prove or disprove dark matter's existence. That's how science works (partly). Denying theories without solid argumentation won't help at all, thought.

[Anonymous No.4856132]

>>4848946
terra power. Bill Gates >

[Anonymous No.4856138]

>>4856128
Not saying dark matter is necessarily wrong.

It just seems odd than when observations don't match with the theory, they'd go for undetectable dark matter to patch the theory rather than revising it.

[Anonymous No.4856134]

>People asking for nuclear papers from a poser Anon

Please stop ruining one of the few decent threads on this board. He was obviously a fake.

[Anonymous No.4856145]

>>4856138
Yah, I remember in astronomy class in 2000 they thought it was discovered that neutrinos had mass, which would have dispatched the entire dark matter line of enquiry. The result was later shown to be false, or at least the test was faulty. I still feel like they should pursue this line of thought, though. Even our solar system is supposed to be loaded with dark matter, but c'mon, where is it?

[Anonymous No.4856165]

>>4856145
>>4856138
Do you really think they don't revise it? I bet they went through absolute denial after scanning the first results pointing to missing matter. Dark matter is simply a "temporary excuse" for the inconsistencies and the case has yet to be dismissed.

[Anonymous No.4856174]

I think "they" do revise "it," but I also know from experience that extravagant theories become trendy in scientific circles and they'll be pursued over more direct solutions. There are a million billion gazillion neutrinos in the universe, more than enough to account for the missing matter in our universe and they are observable. >muh dark matter still wins, though? bleh.

[Anonymous No.4856171]

>>4854753
>vizualizing and working with abstract concepts makes you intelligent
uh... I mean I kind of agree with some of the other stuff you are saying but wow...

[Anonymous No.4856175]

>going to community college and taking remedial courses
>go into this thread
>realize I'm the parent type who knows nothing

[Anonymous No.4856176]

>>4854775
>family lives in cali
>blames the weed
ahaha no

[Anonymous No.4856183]

>>4848925

lol

[Anonymous No.4856221]

>be a pilot
>SO WHAT DO YOU STUDY
>aviation
>OH SO YOU WANT TO BE A PILOT
>I'm already a licensed pilot
>WOW I WANTED TO BE ONE BUT THE DOCTORS SAID I WAS TOO COLORBLIND
>I'll take you up on a flight, I need the company and the cross-country PIC hours

>friends actually take me up on the offer
>they think it's going to be all top-gun gung-ho aerobatic shit
>walkaround and paperwork
>15 minutes getting from engine start to takeoff, involving four radio calls and five checklists
>20 minutes getting from takeoff to established enroute, involving seven radio calls and three checklists, a well as fancy math using circular slide rule calculators
>an hour of boredom and watching the ground go by
>more radio calls and procedures on approach to an airport
>touch-and-go, more radio calls, more procedures, more legal shit, on we go to the next destination
>another radio call with the FIC to update our arrival time and to report any siginificant weather conditions
>blah blah blah more radio calls, more procedures, more checklists
>finally come back to our departure airport, more radio calls, more checklists, more fancy shit
>finally back to the dispatcher's ramp, have to do more checklists to shut down the aircraft, then have to push it back into a parking position and tie it down/secure it
>more paperwork, more paperwork, more paperwork, close the flight plan, more paperwork
>bill comes out to $400 for the flight

>YEAH BEING A PILOT LOOKS SUPER HARD, IT'S NOT FOR ME

[Anonymous No.4856234]

>>4856171
I don't see how not being able to would make you intelligent.

[Anonymous No.4856261]

>>4856221
lol

[Anonymous No.4856264]

>Came home one day after first day at high school course teaching c++.
>Run to my dad explaining the binary system and how the PC uses it to store integers and strings, etc.
>My dad's reply after 30 minutes of explanation: "What is a bit again?"

I think that was one of the first times it really hit me that I knew a lot more than my dad. I think similar things had happened before, but I had always assumed he was just tired or something.

[Anonymous No.4856283]

>>4851500
>>4852489

>they haven't realized that engineering isn't hard in the slightest

[Anonymous No.4856300]

>>4856264

If you went on an autistic ramble for 30 minutes, then maybe that was a clue.

Also, he may've just been confirming something and understood it all or said it to feel good.

You never know.

[Anonymous No.4856301]

>>4852230

>different to the solar system

different THAN the solar system. Learn english you filthy immigrant.

[Anonymous No.4856303]

>>4854775
>White is the absence of all color, black is all the color
I beat this one with "why is space black, plz think about it", I assume this is brainwashing from the reggae music showing itself

It depends on what you are talking about, because black is the sum of all colors referring to true material colors, but in light spectres white is the sum of them all, and there is paint too that use a different scheme.

Shuffling doesnt interfere with the probability.

[Anonymous No.4856304]

>>4852628

dumbass

[Anonymous No.4856311]

>>4855062
why not america? It would genuinely make it a better place. Especially when the process was to be repeated within the usa and, like you said, the less-favoured ones get sent to africa, where again the process is repeated and they finally get send to antarctica.
pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.4856315]

>>4855504

>books

those better be textbooks

[Anonymous No.4856327]

My dad's pretty smart for a Peruvian. He has a master's from Harvard's Kennedy school of government and unlike some of my mom's siblings, he believes in evolution.

He believes we evolved from dinosaurs.

Fucking dinosaurs.

[Anonymous No.4856333]

>>4856327
well they are pretty cool.

if I would have to pick between some weird rat thing and a dinosaur, guess what I would pick?

[Anonymous No.4856365]

>the only thing my family cared about when I come back home for break from university is if I have teachers who talk about politics and try to "brain wash" me into being an extremist liberal.
>None of my classes are related to politics, and now I don't even have liberal arts required classes anymore.
>The closest we talk about politics is if it's related to science or technology in any of my classes

[Anonymous No.4856384]

>>4855504
well, fuck you, i still like brian cox over carl sagan (cox's enthousiasm never fails to catch me and cox is as pop as sagan)

[OP No.4856392]

>>4849319

Same story

>tell people I'll be attending graduate school for math
>"what do you want to do with that, teach?"
>mfw
>mfw when I have no face

[Anonymous No.4856400]

>>4856384

>having a favorite popular science writer

oh god it's like I'm really in high school

[Anonymous No.4856419]

>>4852052
Most of my family are either just highschool graduates or highschool drop outs ;-;

[Anonymous No.4856473]

>>4852218
As a CS student, I know this guy who always says something like "I should keep you in my contacts for if I need computer help".

>2 years of knowing me and he still hasn't added me to his phone contacts luckily

[Anonymous No.4856487]

>>4856392
>You now realize that most people who do Math usually end up teaching

The minority do Math research.

[Anonymous No.4856922]

These are hilarious.

[Anonymous No.4857024]

>>4853794
>thousand suns
>nuclear

[Anonymous No.4858360]

Bump for more stories

[Anonymous No.4858366]

This was a good thread, i would like to see more of this in place of higgs threads.

[Anonymous No.4858405]

>compsci major
>Mom wants antivirus on her laptop
>install one
>is this what you use in class
>why would we be using antivirus in class mom
>isn't that what you do?

My parents thing I circlejerk about which antivirus software is the best.

At least some of you physicsfags can tell your parents you do nuclear bombs or some shit and they'd believe you.

[Anonymous No.4858420]

>be atheist/agnostic/non-religious/i dont give a fuck whatever you want to call it
>extended family is religious
>gather with relatives for christmas
>my cousins (which are the same age as me) all think that the world was created 4000 years ago or whatever the bible says
>they all believe in reincarnation
>their big "rebellious" idea is rejecting the catholic church and coming up with their own personal way to worship jesus. (good job, only 500 years late for the protestant reformation)
>they're all convinced that they'll go to heaven regardless of what they do on earth just on account of the fact that they believe in jesus
>mfw i'm related to these people, and most of them are either going to university or already graduated

[Anonymous No.4858421]

>>4858420
>>they all believe in reincarnation
>bible
10/10 would laugh at your family again

[Anonymous No.4858429]

>>4858421
i know. the worst part is that their beliefs aren't even consistent within any particular religion. they just do and think whatever they want with no justification at all.

[Anonymous No.4858432]

>be scientifically minded
>parents and one sister is too
>everyone is also atheist
>have to attend religious gatherings to keep relations with relatives
>sit next to atheist sister in church
>she cracks jokes about the proceedings
>makes double entendres about everything said
>have to keep a straight face
>almost lose consciousness several times from holding my laughter
>end up having a horrible headache the rest of the day
Every fucking time.

[Anonymous No.4858439]

>>4848906
>Live in house with my brother.
>We have a router down stairs.
>He uses wireless on his computer up stairs.
>There's two heavy doors seperating his computer and the router.
>He complains about always getting one bar or less.
>Tell him because there's two heavy doors and concrete walls seperating him and the router.
>He tells me the waves vibrate throught the wall so that shouldn't matter.
>He sticks to that belief.

[Anonymous No.4858505]

>be teaching at a uni (1st-2nd year physics stuff) && on a tenure track position
>4th of july party with a bunch of people
>recognize one of old students from a term or two back, realize he's the cousin of one of my colleages
>mfw
>start discussing research with a couple other people in various fields
>student comes running over to listen
>doesn't introduce himself to anyone, just announces "he's one of my old students"
>mfw, spaghetti flies out of my pockets
>i'm talking about how much of a pain it is to get cluster time, how it's tedious to optimize field correlators when switching between strings and the qcd vacuum, typical research backstabbing/regrets/depression, etc.
>the kid looks like he has absolutely no idea what's going on, and appears very annoyed that i'm ignoring him
>he clearly does not into social interactions
>spaghetti continues to fly everywhere
>mention how monte-carlo algorithms have to be altered to oblivion when working with string tension because of those damn wilson loops, so it takes twice as many cpu cycles, all of the apis break, etc.
>his eyes light up
>the moment i finish that sentence, he blurts out he wasn't aware you could use physics on monte pythons (keep in mind he's a physics major)
>everyone starts to laugh
>mfw i dedicated half a lecture to computational electrodynamics that semester, and knew for a fact he was there

[Anonymous No.4858538]

My brother-in-law, pffft

"Evolution is just a theory!"

And yet he readily accepts Christianity and claims the only reason I don't believe in God is because I haven't done my research.

inb4 whiny atheist. Discordianism is the one true religion.

[Anonymous No.4858601]

>>4856487

You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.4858618]

I'm studying chemistry but people simply have no idea what that means. all they do is asking what I'm doing but actually they think I spend most of the time putting "chemical things" in their food.

and sometimes I get offered money for drugs.

[Anonymous No.4858966]

bumping for more funny stories

[Anonymous No.4858977]

>>4848984
>>discussing something that involves calculation
>>ask something like "What's 23.78 times 5.6?" to friend with calculator on phone in hand
>>"I don't know you're the math major!"
>>mfw

I really wish people would understand that the first thing you forget when you start doing actual math is how to add and multiply ordinary numbers.

[Anonymous No.4858980]

>>4858601
What do pure math people do, though? Genuine interest here. I have two friends who graduated in math from university, but both are applied mathematics - statistics mostly. One of them now works at a bank.

[Anonymous No.4858987]

>>4852628
That's fucking impossible. a zero is A ZERO.
A ZERO. You can't make something else out of it.
If you multiply by zero, you won't get anything. You can't even do X/0. Zero fails in math, it's nothing. It's useless.

[Anonymous No.4859002]

>>4858987
Look at your zero. Now look at mine.

Your zero is a useless circle, but if it were a rigorously defined algebraic object in a commutative ring, it could be similar to mine.

Look down. Now back up. We're in class and I have two papers detailing ambiguous cases of 0-use. Look again. The papers are now axioms.

Anything is possible when you're using pure algebra and not instinct muddled by the effects of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.

I'm on a solid topologically equivalent to an equine.

[Anonymous No.4859004]

>that feel when illiterate parents watch documentaries and learn from what they can understand
>they ask questions only when they do not understand how something works
>despite the relatively low income they have, they told me that they would try their best to pay for the fees if I went to the universities
I love my parents.

[Anonymous No.4859031]

>>4848906
Maybe you make them feel stupid and they don't want the embarrassment of telling you how they can't even grasp the basics, they need to save face or admit your better and bow down and worship you as god of science

Or maybe the knowledge of just how vast the rest of the universe is makes them super scared, and they'd rather believe it was all made up, just another religion kind of thing

Also, Ideocracy

Also, I think we will have to cull them one day

[Anonymous No.4859090]

Mother:
>Discourages me from doing maths because she thinks it will induce mental illness - photograph wildlife instead.

>Explaining interesting probability stuff (Monty Hall problem etc)
>Ask her to guess what the probability is for certain problem
>Standard guesses are 0 or 1
>She guesses 75%
>Explain that a probability is a number between 0 and 1.
>"...but there are no numbers between 0 and 1."

>A bazillion is a number

>Thinks that the faster you go during a fixed length journey the more times your wheels will spin

>"So how do you think the universe was created?"
>"Like swirling gas that came together wasn't it?"

>Explain what a complex number is
>Laugh at me and say "Don't you mathematicians have anything better to do?"

>Explain that if we had an infinite plane of random pixels of RGB there would be a picture of us talking in it, not once but infinitely many times and in infinitely many different slight variations (wearing each others clothes etc.)
>"Anon, you should stop thinking about stuff like that or you'll go mad."
>Get same response when I explain about fractals

>Doesn't think fractions are numbers
>Maybe she's thinking just of natural numbers, ask if 4/2 is a number.
>Nope
>Explain fractions are just the notation for a result of a division - doesn't understand

>Explain that we can prove a certain things exists and not be able to say exactly what it is
>Doesn't believe me - "Sounds like what religious fundamentalists say"
>Fucking constructivism

Cont..

[Anonymous No.4859097]

>>4859090
Your mother isn't as stupid as you think she is dude. Grow out of puberty.
Examples: 75% is a valid probability; she does not know the basics of astronomy, but does know that natural processes did it, not bad; 250 years ago it was normal to laugh at those that used imaginary numbers, even the smart mathematicians did that, the usefulness of the concept of imaginary numbers can only be know to the very proficient (i.e. above hs level), or those that simply believe their teacher/prof (in high school you know that \sqrt(-1) = i, but not why this is important for reality); about the constructivism, a constructivist is not a retard, and skeptisism to non-constructive proofs is healthy.

[Anonymous No.4859099]

>If the area of pond weed doubles in size every day and covers the pond in ten days, how long does it take to cover half pond?
>3 days.

>If 10 machines take 10 minutes to make 10 widgets, how long does it take 100 robots to make 100 widgets?
>50 minutes

>Refuses to believe that Lorentz contraction happens

>Laugh in my face when I explain Euler's identity

>Thinks computers can calculate any small number really fast and large numbers really slow

[Anonymous No.4859105]

>>4859099
If you're talking natural numbers (or integers in absolute size), then larger numbers are slower than bigger numbers. That's basic complexity theory.

[Anonymous No.4859110]

Forgot this gem.
>>4859099
>"How many people do we need in a room for there to be 50% chance that two people have the same birthday?"
>400?
>"But there are less than 400 days in a year."
>"Yes."
>Repeat the question
>300

[Anonymous No.4859111]

>>4859090
You sound like an asshole. Your mom's answers were actually ok.

[Anonymous No.4859114]

>>4859090
>>4859099
>>4859110
Why are you being such a dick to your mom? It's quite obvious that see hardly considers the questions before answering them (like 80% of the human population would). Stop asking her already.

Go give her hug.

[Anonymous No.4859120]

>>4855551
>Also, what I meant when I mentioned sanity was that I can't imagine being able to reconcile knowledge of the scientific method as a tool for finding truth and believing in anything (especially religious beliefs) without applying aforementioned method to that belief. It's cognitive dissonance.

Beautiful. You perfectly explained the complete opposite, that in fact YOU are experiencing cognitive dissonance. Working dogmatically under science as the only correct tool for finding truth leaves you living in a false dichotomy, that things are either true or false only by the standards of science. Because you lack the knowledge to explain phenomena out of the grasp of science, rather than accepting that it is currently unexplainable, you label is as stupid or insane to resolve your dissonance.

Maybe you should examine why internally you can't allow a belief function to run, while at the same time being scientific about what is within the grasp of science.

[Anonymous No.4859124]

I can't believe this thread is still up.

[Anonymous No.4859125]

>>4859114
>Go give her hug.
I do all the time - calm down dude.

>>4859114
>Why are you being such a dick to your mom?
I'm not - I'm so patient with her. I drove 3 miles once to fix her computer because it wasn't booting...
...She wasn't pressing the on button hard enough.

[Anonymous No.4859134]

>>4859125

THREE WHOLE MILES, my god that must have taken you hours.

[Anonymous No.4859135]

>>4859134
6 miles through London does take hours.

[Anonymous No.4859136]

>>4859125
>I'm not
I guess all those stories at once just created an image of a condescending autist. Still I have found with most non-STEM majors that they generally just don't want to think about questions with numbers in it/challenge themselves and they always give retarded answers as a result, so I've found it best to not ask them at all.

>...She wasn't pressing the on button hard enough.
lol

[Anonymous No.4859142]

>>4859136
coughsamefagcough

[Anonymous No.4860429]

bump

[Anonymous No.4860798]

Interested in those papers