FTL Travel

[Anonymous No.4846439]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/07/05/higgs-boson-find-could-make-light-speed-travel-possible-scie
ntists-hope/

SHIT JUST GOT REAL

[Anonymous No.4846446]

gay and unlikely

[Anonymous No.4846461]

>Fermilab director Pier Oddone said money was a “big, big issue” threatening progress in the United States and he hoped the Higgs discovery would spur greater funding from U.S. agencies and Congress.

depressing murica

[Anonymous No.4846487]

Predictably, the eggheads want to investigate the velocity... of government money into their pockets. EPIC FAIL.

[Anonymous No.4846492]

>>4846487

fuck off from /sci/

[Critical !!kYucJvD/fhS No.4846498]

>Travel at speed of light
>Come back, Earth has aged 1000 years
>Apes everywhere
>Rustle everyone's jimmies

[Anonymous No.4846507]

>>4846439
>in order to travel at the speed of light you need to harness the power of a black hole

[Anonymous No.4846509]

>>4846461
bro, we cant be shelling out that kind of cash we gotta pay for low lives to be on welfare.

[Anonymous No.4846520]

>>4846509

I love you. Five star post mah nigga.

[Anonymous No.4846524]

>world is starving and war-torn
>hurr lets spend billions of dollars to see if sci-fi books are real
>okay

Fuck this gay earth

[Anonymous No.4846534]

>>4846524
Go away liberal. No one cares if Ta-Quin'lia.shidaStada and her eighteen children are starving. We shouldn't even be giving a damn about them anyways.

[Anonymous No.4846542]

>>4846534
>We should study science for the well being of all humanity !
>doesn't care about humanity

[Anonymous No.4846546]

>>4846439
I don't like this one bit.
God did not intend for us to do this.

[Anonymous No.4846547]

>>4846534

>implying most of scientists aren't liberals

[Anonymous No.4846570]

>>4846542
If people do not care about humanity, then humanity should not care about them.

If someone is more interested in crime and rape than space exploration, then the people who would benefit from space exploration should not give a damn about. If the people on welfare were White, you would not be whining.

[Anonymous No.4846574]

when /sci/fags posted questions about being able to travel at relativistic speeds yesterday or 2 days ago, they were told to fuck off. But now... I find this impressive.

[Anonymous No.4846596]

>>4846570
But anon, most of the people on welfare are white.

[Anonymous No.4846606]

>mfw my brain could not comprehend the simplified version of the higgs boson wikipedia article

[Anonymous No.4846617]

why are people saying we should not fund the higgs research because it will produce more sophisticated weapons for the military? where are they getting this?

[Anonymous No.4846614]

>>4846570
>people not caring about humanity
Except that people are humanity.
You think criminality is something new? It has always existed, and it has always been perpetrated by miserable people. The point of science and technology is to make people not miserable so that they stop being criminals.

>If someone is more interested in crime and rape than space exploration, then the people who would benefit from space exploration should not give a damn about.
But what if space exploration could be profitable to that exact person who prefers crime to being an astronaut?

[Anonymous No.4846629]

>>4846617
they're talking about the boson gun

[Anonymous No.4846635]

>>4846574
if one of these scientists told me that it will produce FTL id tell him to fuck off to. some scientists arnt that in touch with reality and then get quoted when they say stuff with absolutely no proof. there is no knows mechanism that the higgs field can be used for FTL travel, why would seeing the particle suddenly change that? the higgs mechanism is part of QFT, and it can be shown that QFT does not allow FTL.

[Anonymous No.4846654]

>>4846524

The world will always have starving people and war.

Why spend money and time on something that's never going to go away? At least this has potential to do something good.

[Anonymous No.4846655]

>>4846635
>here is no knows mechanism that the higgs field can be used for FTL travel
well if we can get rid of inertia, FTL is pretty easy

[Anonymous No.4846664]

>>4846635
You can go FTL if you carry no information, actualy.

[Anonymous No.4846682]

>>4846664
yes, we already have the technology for that, but its realy retarded calling it FTL then.

[Anonymous No.4846703]

>>4846655
saying "turn of inertia" isn't quite the same as knowing how to do it.
if we can turn of the electromagnetic field, particles would be changeless and things like fusion would be a breeze. where is that technology? we knew about that field for hundreds of years, so why cant we just "turn of" the electromagnetic field? we dont even have a theory of how to do it.

if wee cant even do that, how the hell do they think we are going to turn of mass?

[Anonymous No.4846705]

>>4846682
People who want to use technology to solve those problems cannot do it because they lack money or whatever, and people who have what people who want to solve those problems lack do not want to solve those problems.

[Anonymous No.4846737]

>>4846705
wat

[Anonymous No.4846742]

>>4846509
>bro, we cant be shelling out that kind of cash we gotta pay for more bombs to drop on towelheads
corrected this for you

[Anonymous No.4846799]

>>4846596
ha, good one

[Anonymous No.4846828]

>>4846534
It pains me to see these sort of posts because I myself came from poverty. Just because you're poor doesn't mean you're retarded. In fact, most of the idiocy I see comes from spoiled rich people driving pink mustangs and texting 24/7.

[Anonymous No.4846833]

>>4846799
>2001

[Anonymous No.4846851]

>>4846828

Emphasis on spoiled, because rich people generally tend to be rather intelligent/smart. They might not be into physics or math but they are better at what they do than others are. This being said, their daughters, sons and wives are the scum that should be wiped off Earth.

[Anonymous No.4846856]

>>4846851
>rich people generally tend to be rather intelligent/smart.
Well, the people who got their anyways. People rich from nepotism tend to be dumb as bricks.

Different anon.

[Anonymous No.4846861]

>>4846828
>>4846856
Your thinking of the trust-fund kids.

not the people who worked their way to riches

[Anonymous No.4846874]

>Finance majors mad, they think we're wasting money on this research because no one ever explained to them how wealth is created

[Anonymous No.4846907]

>>4846833

You're right. Since then, the proportion of black people have increased in the population.

There are even more black people on welfare now.

[Nuka-Cola No.4846914]

>hope
the higgs directly governs mass, and we find some novel way to influence either its strength or its pressence in a fixed spacetime volume, while using every-day energy levels and at only moderate cost

>reality
we will probably never harness it to any acceptable degree, it'll just be a thing which explains the universe better

[Anonymous No.4846919]

>>4846856
>their
FORGIVE ME

[Anonymous No.4846921]

>make light-speed travel possible by “un-massing” objects or allow huge items to be launched into space by “switching off” the Higgs.

Biggest load of bollocks I ever heard in my life.

Hey guys remember when we discovered gravity? Remember when we invented levitation, because clearly when you discover something you can suddenly switch it off? I remember that time we switched off gravity and all flew off the face of the earth.

Ahh good times, good times.

[Anonymous No.4846925]

>>4846851
Nouveau riche people are generally the ones with more witt than the average person. Their offspring are brain dead, however.

[Anonymous No.4846931]

>>4846907
I love sarcasm so much.

[Anonymous No.4846934]

>>4846921
Remember when we discovered electricity?

[Anonymous No.4846943]

God damn it, of all the methods for FTL travel, why did the Ass Effect one had to be the right one?

[Anonymous No.4846952]

I thought we were already working on this as a theory before the Higgs Boson?
Just like there was the theory for bending spacetime down in front of the ship and raising it in the back. (that seems weird to me, wouldn't that take astronomical amounts of energy? (no pun intended))

[Anonymous No.4846971]

Wow, what an awful headline. The light speed travel (not FTL, guys) bit is bullshit, it's woth noting that they don't quote any scientist saying that shit.

Anyway, you know what would happen if you un-mass something? It would disintegrate in an instant.

[Anonymous No.4846981]

>>4846971
Might explain why it's only in ONE newspaper on google... I knew it was right to be skeptical and google it.

[Nuka-Cola No.4846986]

>>4846943
changing your mass to zero doesn't allow for FTL, it allows for light speed travel and no faster

[Nuka-Cola No.4846993]

>>4846952
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
doesn't work
it requires dark energy, a lot of it. good luck capturing some, let alone compressing it to a point
also, turns out as you run this thing past light speed the interior of the bubble will be bathed in hawking radiation. it's like the same thing that happens at the exterior of a black hole (virtual particle pairs are created, one falls in, the other stays outside and emits), except here the ones that "Stay inside" irradiate your ship horribly. to the point where the interior of the bubble cannot actually sustain solid matter.
so that didn't work

[Anonymous No.4847007]

>>4846925

Most people's offspring are brain dead. It's not isolated to the rich.

[Anonymous No.4847023]

>>4846993
>it requires dark energy
No. EXOTIC, not DARK. Big fucking difference, retard. Stop talking out your ass.

[Anonymous No.4847026]

>>4846993

its supposed to form a warp bubble

the inside is your regular vacuum + spaceship, its the shell/membrane from twisting space up front and expanding it to normal at the back that does all the work

its a reactionless drive

problem is THERE IS NO PRACTICAL WAY TO DO IT

[Anonymous No.4847041]

troll physics time?

1.) manipulate Higgs boson by removing mass from behind your ship
2.) front end is suddenly "heavier"
3.) ship is propelled in the direction of the area with more mass because of gravity
4.) accelerate to the speed of light

[Anonymous No.4847057]

>>4847026
Yet......

[Anonymous No.4847073]

>>4847057

it requires an intimate understanding of what, exactly, is SPACE in the first place

all anyone knows for sure is that space isn't a perfect vacuum, its got quantum foam + cosmic background radiation, it is not NOTHING, it is not EMPTY

also, anyone who uses the phrase "fabric of space" and takes it literally does not know what they're talking about, its only a metaphor/analogy

[Anonymous No.4847081]

>>4847073
You said there is no Practical way to do it. Well at one time there was no practical way to cross a mountain. Or sail across sea's. Or fly. Or blast off to the moon and land on it. Do I see it happening. No. But that's because I'm not nearly smart enough to truly understand it. But someone will be smart enough. And in time someone will figure out the next puzzle piece. And if not who cares.

[Anonymous No.4847104]

>>4847081
I'm afraid the problems with that system are far more than practicalities. It couldn't be stopped and would destroy anything inside, there is no way of overcoming this.

[Anonymous No.4847138]

>>4847104

nothing inside is destroyed

it's called a warp bubble for a reason

[Anonymous No.4847150]

>>4847081
>A more recent paper by Carlos Barceló, Stefano Finazzi, and Stefano Liberati makes use of quantum theory to argue that the Alcubierre Drive at FTL velocities is impossible; mostly due to extremely high temperatures caused by Hawking radiation destroying anything inside the bubble at superluminal velocities and leading to instability of the bubble itself.

Yes it's from Wikipedia but your welcome to check it's sources.

[Nuka-Cola No.4847174]

>>4847023
sorry, meant to say that, which is ironically even more impractical

>>4847026
>the inside is your regular vacuum + spaceship, its the shell/membrane from twisting space up front and expanding it to normal at the back that does all the work
that's the problem, as you're speeding along inside this warp bubble, you can actually drag along some virtual particles with you, ans split virtual particle pairs
one of the particles radiates into the bubble, the other one just gets lonely and wanders off

[Anonymous No.4847195]

mass effect incoming.

[Anonymous No.4847204]

>>4846524

600 billion dollar American military budget.
18 billion dollar NASA budget.

[Anonymous No.4847216]

>>4846509
Yeah! Support us low lives, you need us! For something..

[Nuka-Cola No.4847217]

>>4847204
>18 billion
i wish

[Anonymous No.4847286]

Does anyone think this will lead to massive scientific research into the field?

Just to get people excited about the possibilities offered by the research into this field. It could be the next step along the path into space.

[Anonymous No.4847293]

>>4846524
>world is starving and war-torn
>hurr lets spend billions of dollars to fix it
Good work!

Now the world is still starving and war-torn, but to top it off, it's also EXTRA retarded.

[Anonymous No.4848285]

>>4846524
yes... lets spend ALL resources to growing the population and increasing consumption for ALL 7 FUCKING BILLION ASSHOLES.

[Anonymous No.4848305]

This whole Higgs Boson particle is totally ridiculous. It lasts for less than a second and yet they say it is a fundamental building block of matter.

Would you build a house with a brick that lasts for less than a second?

Wake up people! Quit admiring these ridiculous theories and start asking hard questions. These physicists with their fancy and complicated math have been getting a free ride from the media for far too long.

As another example of how ridiculous current physics is: physics current state that a particle can act like a wave. However, a wave must by definition have a medium. For a water wave, the medium is the water. For a particle wave, the medium physicists have landed on is ...... wait for it .... a wave of probability! Totally ridiculous and obviously wrong. Arise people. Enough is enough!

[Anonymous No.4848311]

>>4848305
its like im really in high school again

[Anonymous No.4848327]

>>4848305
2/10
should have said sheeple instead of people