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>largest concentration of prestigious universities in the world
>US contributed $500 million dollars to CERN
>many American engineers and scientists worked contributed to the discovery

Wow, what a smug asshole.

>> No.4837426

Retweeted by You

>> No.4837427

I think that maybe, just maybe, he was telling a joke.
So get over it, faggot.

>> No.4837431

>>4837427
I doubt it. he's constantly making anti-american remarks.

>> No.4837432

Consider that we wasted 2b trying to build our own supercollider and then gave the fuck up

>> No.4837434

>>4837431
>anti-american remarks
>pointing out we got shit education standards and telling us to step up our game

right

>> No.4837438

>>4837419

I agree with you and he shouldn't be considered a scientist. I looked at what he contributed to science, found nothing. He's good at vulgarization but that's it.

>> No.4837439

>>4837431
OH MY GOD! HE HATES AMERICA! HES PROBABLY AN ATHEIST TOO! QUICK BEHEAD HIM IN THE NAMES OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY AND LORD

>> No.4837441

>>4837419
i personally know of 3 physicists that worked on the project from south Africa.

south africa is just as good as america and USA with science!!

>> No.4837448

It is fucking true.

RIP Fermilab.

>> No.4837450
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4837450

Is OP implying that the US actually contributed to the findings of the Higgs boson?
>mfw

>> No.4837459

>500 million

Basically, pocket change.

However, we spend twenty million times that amount attacking countries Israel tells us to every year.

>> No.4837456

>>4837448

>implying Fermilab isn't en route to figuring out why neutrinos have mass, something not explained by the Standard Model at all

>> No.4837461

Oh noes, They confirmed the Higgs-Boson... they're going to....Patent it?

Tyson is just pissed that we can't get bragging rights on it like we did for Atom 95
Science is a human endeavor, maybe the only global human endeavor.
Discovery has no nationality.

>> No.4837462

>>4837439
Actually he is lol but that makes no difference in this topic. Also with high intellect comes cockiness idk his iq but he appears to be smart then most when it comes to science and by most I mean the total human population.

>> No.4837481

>>4837462
He's an agnostic, as he's said before many times. He was also just making a joke, you morons.

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4837496

it's ok, who cares,
they got some numbers and data,
and we're going to Mars!
...........again,
don't care, still neat.

>> No.4837498

Sir Dr. Reverend His Highness Neil DeGrasse Tyson is a scientific hack. He uses science as a marketing tool to sell his opinions to the drones that our culture (or lack thereof) has created. One aspect of his act is the adoption of a holier than thou attitude about Americans, which, in his case, is extremely ironic considering that American affirmative action is what put his ass through school.

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4837504

i see no US here.

>> No.4837499

>>4837462
i dont believe him to be smarter than any of the researchers at cern tbh. he's just popular

>> No.4837514

>>4837504
>money contribs

US financed it with brilliant minds instead, because you know, the experiment needed it.

>> No.4837516

>>4837504

>Poland
mahnigga

>> No.4837523

>>4837504
link please

>> No.4837522

>>4837456
>not explained
>dose neutrino oscillations

>> No.4837532

>>4837514
but op said
>US contributed $500 million dollars to CERN

>> No.4837528

hahah fermilab

too bad you americans have religiousfags galore over there shutting down or smallscaling your scientific projects.

tot hink, you were going to build a larger collider than cern but religiousfags needed more money to build churches

>> No.4837530

>>4837523
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN#Financing_.28Budget_2010.29

>> No.4837536

>>4837530
Thanks.

>Five countries have observer status:[27]
Turkey – since 1961
Russia – since 1993
Japan – since 1995
United States – since 1997
India – since 2002

Does this mean US didn't do shit to help find the higgs except watch?

>> No.4837537

>>4837419

To be fair, we DID shut down our own better, cheaper, and earlier LHC program.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider

>aka the Desertron

What a fucking boss name. Goddamn.

>> No.4837547

>>4837537
Sounds more like a transformer than a scientific apparatus.

>> No.4837546

>>4837537
Why, because we deserted it?

>> No.4837549

>>4837536

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_status
>a privilege granted by some organizations to non-members to give them an ability to participate in the organization's activities

>> No.4837555

>500 million dollars
>Cost $10,000 million dollars to create

Yeah, way to help out America...

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4837553

>>4837536
We all know that observation influences the state of subatomic particles... do not underestimate the Americans' important role in collapsing CERN's wave functions.

>> No.4837562

>>4837549
Ah, so there were some American scientists running numbers and shit. Hardly aligning with our ideal of American exceptionalism, but at least we weren't completely absent.

As a US citizen, I still laud Europe and lament our country's scientific impotency. Well done yuropoors, this 4th of July I raise my glass for you!

>> No.4837565

>>4837555
We were busy spending two billion dollars on this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider

>> No.4837569

>>4837565

no, you were spending trillions on iraq war

>> No.4837572

>>4837569
i think yo mean spending trillions
ON FREEDOM

>> No.4837586

>>4837431
he's a nigger, what do you fucking expect

>> No.4837580 [DELETED] 

>>4837562

>still waiting for American media to inevitably try and claim credit for this.

>> No.4837581

>>4837514
>>US financed it with brilliant minds instead, because you know, the experiment needed it.

then it wasn't 'financing,' was it?
it is certainly possible that American experts went to the project, but I doubt you'll find anything but vague associations that way -- because people count what school you came from (which has less to do with your citizenship) and what institution you came from (employer also not particularly tied to citizenship) before they talk about your formative years, which I think is what people really mean when they hope Americans are involved.

>> No.4837583

>>4837522

Neutrino oscillations don't explain why neutrinos have mass. In fact, it's the other way around: neutrino oscillations force the neutrino to have mass, but without another tiny Higgs or some other exotic process, this is impossible. That's what Fermilab is trying to look for.

>> No.4837593

This might not be a good example for Tyson to use, but he is right.

You're falling behind, this is the twilight of America. You wouldn't be mad if it wasn't at least partially true.

>> No.4837595

Who gives a fuck about national dickwaving if it's about science funding?

>> No.4837598

>MUH NATIONAL PRIDE

>> No.4837602

>>4837593

>twilight of America

Yeah, nah. I will say I would like to see big scientific projects become a thing in the US again, though.

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4837608

>>4837504
>Bulgaria
Thanks champ, every bit helps.

>> No.4837609

>>4837586
>implying niggers aren't american
He's an astrophysicist.

>> No.4837610

>>4837462

He obviously smarter than you, hence your shit typing.

>> No.4837616

>>4837609
no he's a pop-sci celebrity.

And no, niggers are not american.

>> No.4837619

1/10

>> No.4837627

>>4837609

an astrophysicist who goes around doing talks for 2nd graders about black holes

>> No.4837629

>>4837616
he's both

You guys sound like you want to hate Tyson. It makes sense considering how much Reddit gushes over him. Congrats on being against the grain, guys.

>> No.4837630

itt:buttmad stormfags

>> No.4837634 [DELETED] 

>>4837586
http://youtu.be/gQg8Gii96X0

>> No.4837647

>>4837586
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQg8Gii96X0

>> No.4837649

America helped, that is all

>> No.4837650

>murika

>science

muahahah

>> No.4837654

>hurr i will go find an opinion i don't like and then cry about it

shit thread

>> No.4837651

>>4837504
>Germany beating Poland and France
Some things never change.

>> No.4837763

>>4837419
RIP fermilab.

>> No.4837950

>south africa is just as good as america and USA with science!!

You might want to set your sights a little higher there, fella. Muhrica's in back slide.
Too much belief in American Exceptionalism has led to a morass of self-satisfied complacency and wasted two entire generations worth of social and scientific progress.

>ps. I'm Aaron Sorkin. Watch my new show where I tell America what's wrong with it.

>> No.4837969

>>4837419
>instead of seeing the truth in his statement
>(we) americans take it as an insult
FUCK GOD DAMN FUCK

>> No.4837975

>>4837950
>Not being the only country to build nukes and then disable ALL of them

Stay violent America

South Africa strong

>> No.4837978

Imagine America was behind CERN and everything was built according to their wack imperial metric... lol 1/100000000000" and 1\1000000000000000000000000 lbs

>> No.4837982

>>4837975
south africa destroyed their nukes so the fucking communist niggers couldn't get their hands on them.

>> No.4837985

>>4837504
>http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/713949/files/

>> No.4838005

>>4837978
Actually in all universities/college its metric systems.

We just use pound/miles/etc for everyday usage because its more accurate way of measurement. Metric system can give us an easy time managing, but we go by the accuracy system for everyday life

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4838021

>>4838005
>because its more accurate way of measurement

mfw amerifats actually think this

>> No.4838013

>>4838005
There is no way the imperial system is in anyway more accurate.

>> No.4838015

>>4837431
I wonder why. I wonder why LFTR is being build in China and not the US that built it 40 years ago.

I wonder why CERN is making discoveries America could have made had it build that super duper particle accelerator.

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4838022

>Implying US didn't find this shit all out 20 years ago
>Implying US isn't constantly colliding shit deep underground in the Nevada desert

>> No.4838037

>>4838005

System of measurement that is more accurate.

Do you even math? This makes not fucking sense.

6/10 fairly subtle

>> No.4838038

>>4838022
Typical Amerifat response... "we did it 20 years ago but it is a government secret that the taxpayers and world can't hear about hurrrrrrrrr"

>> No.4838040

>>4838005
How can a measurement system be more accurate then others?! HOW THE FUCK.

>> No.4838064

>>4838021
>>4838013
>>4838037

base 10 system (metric)
base 12 system (i.u)

The reason for base 12 imp. units is because it matches with everyday life, time, geometric shape, etc. Those all operate on base 12.

Base 10 does not work properly with time/geometric shapes. aka everyday reality. Base 10 maybe easier to calculate but that does not make it accurate

>> No.4838072

>>4838005
>>4838005
>>4838005

lol no. at least at MIT, Yale and Stanford inches, feet, yards, pounds are used

>> No.4838073

>>4838064
Oh god, he is actually serious

>> No.4838084

>>4838064
>has no fucking clue what he is talking about

>> No.4838094

>>4838064
>matches with everyday life, time, geometric shape, etc. Those all operate on base 12.
elaborate

>> No.4838095

>>4838073
No he isn't. He called imperial base 12.

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4838098

>>4838064

8/10 would bite. Well done.

>> No.4838142

>>4837438
So what have you contributed to /sci?

More trolling. How original.

>> No.4838146

America DOES suck at science. Most of our bleeding edge research is done by people from other countries with an actual education. How are Americans supposed to compete when we underfund science and math classes because merit-based education is racist, and schools are forced to teach the "Federal Funding Tests"?

>> No.4838167

>largest concentration of prestigious universities in the world

All the rankings done by American universities are voted for by students of the university. They vote for themselves and it's a ridiculous concept.

>US contributed $500 million dollars to CERN

It didn't.

>many American engineers and scientists worked contributed to the discovery

They didn't. They were all European.

>> No.4838171

>500 million

That's nothing compared to the 10 billion Europe contributed

US can go suck a dick in this discovery, don't try to pretend you had anything to do with it.

>> No.4838190

You do suck at science, America.

Your science is done by the jews, along with Germany, Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Austria etc.

Countries like Britain, France, Switzerland etc. at least do their own science; they dont just rely on kike.

>> No.4838196

>>4838190
Seriously I can't even think of a major figure in science that was born a US citizen .

>> No.4838205

>>4838203
OK, that's right.

Give me more names.

>> No.4838207

>>4838196

/thread

>oddly specific captcha: cernnes reduction

>> No.4838203

>>4838196
>Feynman

>> No.4838208

>>4838196
Well, not since we had to dumb down education because it is racist.

>> No.4838218

Science: because if Europeans discover it, it means it only applies to Europeans?

>> No.4838243

>>4837516
>>4837504
Poland can into science

>> No.4838248

>>4838205
Steven Chu

Also why do you want a list of celebrity figure?

>> No.4838266

>>4837438

How is he not a scientist?

I'm pretty sure he knows more science than you do. You don't have to make groundbreaking discoveries to be
a scientist.

>> No.4838269

>>4837438
>comparing scientists to salesman
oh god this guy

>> No.4838272

>>4838196

As a nation pretty much entirely made of people who are non-native (true natives are useless, we all know this), saying you exclude non-natives is a pretty fucking stupid way of rating scientific ability.

>> No.4838287

>>4838196
>america is the melting pot
>complain there being no true america

>> No.4838316

>>4838272
His point is that the US educational system sucks. US born means having gone through US schools in this case so it's a valid point

>> No.4838329

>>4837419
Learn to take a joke, OP.

>> No.4838341

>>4837586
Wow, I thought /sci/ was impervious to the /b/infection that's been causing the shit that's happening to this website since the summer.

You can track the infection of underage, over-horny 12 year old Nazi wannabe /b/tards by following the ignorant yet pretentious racism trend. It went from /b/, to /pol/, back to /b/, then /v/, then they got sick of /v/ and went to /co/, thought they were 1337 haxx0rs when GeoHot came around and when to /g/, then went back to /v/, and now /sci/. Can't wait to see you guys on /ck/! :)

>> No.4838349

>>4838316

US education system sucking is a fairly recent event though. Hell, back before WWII, the Japanese singled us out as their model education system for modernization.

>> No.4838357

>>4837419

Is English not your first language? What he said was a positive statement. In a sort of "You kicked our ass" sort of way

>> No.4838352

>mfw Americans clap when the best they can do is send neutrons smashing against protons while EU is finding an all-encompassing particle

>> No.4838359

>>4838341
Show your research.

>> No.4838380

>>4838349
>education gets crippled more and more over the past 3 decades
>recent

Just so you know, the Amish emphasize math more than public schools do.

>> No.4838376

>>4838359
Well, the racism was ALWAYS on /b/. I never went to /pol/ but I heard about the vast racism on there after a while. Then, I saw some resist.com comics on /v/ and 300+ post threads with racists arguing against anti-racists. Then those threads starting infecting /co/ and /g/, and /v/ was cool for a brief 2-week period after /vg/ came around. And then I saw that guy.

>> No.4838397

>>4838380

Are you saying that three decades isn't recent? Because historically, and in the context of scientific advances, it is

>> No.4838520

>>4838397
Are you implying that 3 decades of education-chum-fed retards is a good thing?

>> No.4839000

You know OP, everywhere I go I keep seeing people say the US didn't contribute much.

I'm willing to believe you, but you better toss up a source or two.

>> No.4839020

>>4837528
THIS.

Apparently, the US is the only 1st world country that as to put up with this level of fundamentalist bullshit. It's a purely American phenomena.

>> No.4839041

>>4837649
Not really, no.

>> No.4839061

>>4839020
Actually, Israel wants the U.S. to spend education money blowing up mudslimes, and while the terrorist AIPAC organisation can't get you elected, they can prevent you from being elected.

>> No.4839065

>>4838376
>anecdotal
>anecdotal
>anecdotal
>anecdotal
>anecdotal

You Sir, are the cancer.