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Is IQ relevant to success in college and/or life, or is it hard work that equals success?

>> No.4820867

Generally, both. But if you have a lower IQ you need to work harder than someone with a high IQ. On the other hand if you have a high IQ and don't have a good work ethic, you won't go very far at all.

>> No.4820874

>>4820867

Hard work and a good study method make a huge difference, see:

http://www.academictips.org/memory/romanrom.html

http://www.gwern.net/Spaced%20repetition

>> No.4820889

Depends what you call success.

>> No.4820886

Essentially, I agree with >>4820867. But I personally believe IQ is very ill-defined/ill-measured, to the point where it doesn't matter: right now, IQ tests merely absorb people's attention and make others feel bad for scoring low.

If there were an "intelligence measure" that was more complete and significant, then >>4820867 would be exactly right.

>> No.4820892

>>4820886

http://216.224.180.96/~prom/oldsite/articles/changingface.html
“Resourcefulness” and the ability to think “broadly” (or “divergently”), to foresee how numerous factors might interact and to envision multiple possible solutions to any given problem, take priority. In an era when computers perform more and more of technology’s “analytical” work and when increasing numbers of people assume managerial roles, the incisive and narrowly-focused reasoning which considers data sequentially and ignores all ostensibly extraneous information may be superseded by the ability to consider heterogeneous pieces of information simultaneously.

The body of modern knowledge is enormous—too huge for one individual to master—even 5 lifetimes; continual advancement, especially in the technologies, assures that every man will always be “slightly ignorant” (even regarding the developments in his own specialty) and that, inevitably, he will often need to consult references for an explanation of new discoveries. The efficient use of such reference sources, necessary for adaptation to an ever-changing society, is of vital practical importance; gaining access to the facts of interest, when (abundant) information is stored in a complex manner, is facilitated by a divergent type of thinking called “resourcefulness.” This “resourcefulness,” as a key determinant of success in the modern world, may be a valid criterion by which to evaluate adult intelligence.

>> No.4820897

>>4820889
That's deep, bro.

>> No.4820906

If there was a way to perfect way to measure intelligence, then yes. But even still you can be a great salesman and earn alot of money without being a genius. Your likability has a big impact on how well you will do.
It also depends on how you define success, sporting?, academic?, amount of money earned?

>> No.4820909

>>4820897
Werd.

No, seriously. If you want to outperform your peers academically, that's a kind of success and academics aren't stratospherically rewarded.

If you just want to make money, that's easy. You just have to care about literally nothing else and you will accumulate wealth. Most people don't though. they want to make money and make an impact at the same time.

Everyone wants to be Apple but in reality most would settle for IBM.