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I recently talked with a lot of people about evolution and there appears to be a big amount of people who rather believe in creationism. Is this normal or did I just - by chance - encounter a lot of stupidity?

>> No.4698081

Huh? I hope this is a troll thread...

/sci/ almost unanimously believes in creationism.

Where are you from? Yurope?

>> No.4698085

:)

>> No.4698092 [DELETED] 

You now realize creationism opposes abiogenesis and not evolution.
Get back to reading dumb shit.

>> No.4698100

not idiots, just non-thinkers
followers if you will

>> No.4698109

well, it definitely opposes both. but why are there so many people believing in this shit?

>> No.4698110
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4698110

Norwegian here, I have yet to encounter anyone who doesn't accept evolution - and I've spoken with a lot of christians.

This, of course does not include muslims, as I have yet to decide whether I should even consider them as a part of my society or not.

>> No.4698114

>>4698110
Haven't the past decades provided abundant evidence for their barbarism? You guys should seriously kick them all out.

>> No.4698118

I also heard of schools in Europe where creationism is tought... I could not believe this when I heard it!

>> No.4698121

>>4698118
>Europe
>Creationism
Did you mean to say America?

>> No.4698125

No, Germany, England, Netherlands...

>> No.4698129

>>4698125
>Germany
>Netherlands
>Creationism
Nigger, what? I can see England, but not the glorious northern-europe?

>> No.4698131

>>4698125
At least they aren't as abundant there as in the States, right?

>> No.4698140

>>4698131
In Germany there are very very very very few schools that teach creationism.

But actually noone on the streets is interested in evolution.

>> No.4698146

>>4698140
What do you mean by "interested in evolution"?

>> No.4698154

>>4698114
We really should. The argument towards general lower-class crime doesn't really seem to work either, as the rest of the asians, as well as certain easter-european and african groups manage to get work, and establish good families without resorting to violence.

But oh no, these muslims just fucks around in their purple BMWs, beating up skinny teens (they're all manlets, so they only go in groups).

Hell, I could even accept crime, as long as it were restricted to stealing, and organized robbings. But these people start up teen thug-level mafia groups, just beating up everyone who even just simply looks at their gfs.

>> No.4698156

Haha, oh wow.

Get off your high horse, op.

>> No.4698158

>>4698146
like in "giving a shit". common people aren't very much educated here.

>> No.4698163

>>4698077
Stupidity is normal.

>> No.4698176

>>4698154
Dear lord. It's worse than I thought.
Why do people rabidly defend these scumbags and act like they're peaceful contributors to society?
>>4698158
>Germany
>Not well educated
What.
Tell me more.
I thought Germany would be a good place to live because of how good the education system seems to be, but now I'm having second thoughts.

>> No.4698191

the german education system was good some time ago, but what you hear now is just its fading reputation from past times.

>> No.4698193

>>4698176
Germany has a good literacy rate, but the masses are dumb. We have good science and economics elites, though. Common people are controlled by media to a very high degree. Self-thinking is not very usual.

>> No.4698198

>>4698193
What European country would you say is the best to live in?
If I were to have children, I'd be sure to teach them much myself, but I'd also like them to grow up in a non-retarded environment.

>> No.4698222

Please respond.

>> No.4698229

>>4698198
Denmark, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Norway

>> No.4698231

Well, from what I hear the Scandinavian countries have a good wellfare system and the education should not be too bad (compared to other European countries). Maybe someone who lives there can tell facts?!

>> No.4698233

>>4698229
Why Switzerland?

>> No.4698236

>>4698198
Denmark, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Norway, maybe Austria, maybe France.

Switzerland has an excellent school education and a pervertedly high standard of living (also costs). Scandinavians are very tolerant, another thing Germany lacks.

Germany is a land full of tumb worker drones with a small capitalistic ruling class that kisses China's and USA's asses.

>> No.4698242

If you want to live in Norway you won't have to spend that much money on a house because ist very cheap. Gas is also cheap compared to the rest of Europe. Only the food is a little expensive.

>> No.4698244

>>4698236
What about places in terms of university education?

>> No.4698254

Germany just messed up the university education. It is now adapted to the <worker drone> style.

>> No.4698256

ETHZ = the best uni of the world

>> No.4698257

>>4698256
Details?

>> No.4698264

>>4698257
stop squeezing me like a lemon, man

>> No.4698271

>>4698264
Suck it up bitch; we haven't even gotten to the real squeezing yet.

>> No.4698288

>>4698077
America grew on a lot of the uneducated people from Yurop over the centuries. They cling to their old beliefs.

>> No.4698325

But the population in Europe has been improving their education level. The education level in America seems to be rather bad, so people mix up religion with science as they did with creationism. Low education levels can have dramatic effects on a whole society like in some third world countries in Africa.

>> No.4698326

The number of idiots who believe in creationism in the US is surprisingly unchanged over the last 50~ years at least according to the polls. IIRC like 40% at least, depending on how the question is worded.

>> No.4698332

>>4698325
"raising" the school education doesn't make the people smart
>>4698326
USA imports too much human scum

>> No.4698348

raising the school education can teach a basis of knowledge on which people can make their decisions or actions. also it is important for keeping a balance of education in the population. when there is only a low percentage of educated people and a high percentage of non or poorly educated people, democracy can not work in any way.

>> No.4698365

>>4698348
stupid people cannot learn, not even from the best teachers.

stupid people are stupid genetically. improving people are improving genetically.

>> No.4698370

>>4698365
Please stop trolling.

>> No.4698396

>>4698365
>This is what 4chan actually believes.

>> No.4698408

>>4698242
Y u trolling yo? true a house is cheap.. if you wanna live in the middle of the wods more than 5 hours away from the nearest city. or in a "village" with less than 8 houses in it. in the city you'll only have to pay more for a place in tokyo.

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>>4698365

This man should be president.

>> No.4698462

Christian here.

I think the main problem is this asshole:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ussher

There is nowhere in the Bible, let me repeat, nowhere in the Bible that states the Earth is 6000 years old.

In fact, the information on the creation of the world is MISSING from the Bible.

You hear that? Missing. The 7 days creation is the planning stage, like constructing on paper, or if you will, creating as an architect creates through design what a building will look like.

Then we have missing information. Then we get the following statement. 'and God placed man in a garden Eastward in Eden'. Seriously, go google "two creations in the bible" and view results.

Creationism is a bunch of bullshit shoveled by ignorant retards who never studied the book they believe in.

>> No.4698546

>>4698462
/sci/ - Personal Bible Interpretation

>> No.4698587

>>4698365
jaime escalante

>> No.4698598

>>4698587
moi, j'aime les escalades des femmes

>> No.4698599

>>4698462
Don't you know?
Some important faggot calculated the date of creation using the dates for events in the Bible.

>> No.4698611

>>4698599
>that faggot
>important

>> No.4698641

>>4698611
He was important enough for millions of people to believe the shit he wrote.

>> No.4698652

>>4698641

>implying importance is objective.

>> No.4698654

>>4698649
*humanism
>sorry wrong word

>> No.4698649

>>4698641
they believed it because it was read to them and repeated and repeated and repeated. they had no chance. they were indoctrinated.

do the same with humanistics, foreign languages, and maths, then you'll have a small chance to educated those who are damned to live a 'snooky' life.

>> No.4698665

>>4698462
The age of the earth from the Bible is determined through lineage, not an outright statement.

You may interpret it as a planning stage, or a blueprint, but that's just your personal interpretation. It does label them as days, so taking it literally, 7 days + ~6000 years of traced lineage is biblically supported. Saying the age doesn't show up in the Bible is a non-statement. Like saying that fossils don't tell you how old they are.

>> No.4698666

>>4698649
>humanistics, foreign languages, and maths, then you'll have a small chance to educated those who are damned to live a 'snooky' life.
Um... what?
Try that again; I didn't get you the first time.

>> No.4698695

I have read nothing other than the op pic, but I have a question around this subject

what do you call someone that believes in evolution?
normal, reality-ist, scientist? none of them sound right

>> No.4698706

>>4698695
Creationists generally use the word "evolutionist".

>> No.4698712

>>That feel when I live in sweden and don't even have to be bothered with shit like this.

>> No.4698713

>>4698706
yeah, but that could lead to gravitationist, electromagntist and continental driftist

>> No.4698726

>>4698713
It not only could, but given the context it absolutely should. I didn't say it was a good term, but it is what they use. We're talking about people who think evolution is faith-based, so don't set the bar very high.