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4696129 No.4696129 [Reply] [Original]

Will the SpaceX shuttle be visible in the sky if you're on the east coast?

Also are you excited for this launch or are you joyless?

>> No.4696138

no, it's tiny. the sky is huge

can you see the ISS with your bare eyes?
didn't think so


also, it's neat that a commercial rocket is going to interact with the iss, but this isn't some kind of momentous breakthrough. it means very little.

>> No.4696140

>>4696138
>can you see the ISS with your bare eyes?

Yes, actually.

>> No.4696144
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4696144

>>4696129
I'm fucking pumped! Staying up until 1:55 PST for the launch. There is also a thread in /n/, which is appropriate since it is all about commercial transport to the ISS, rather than scientific discovery.

>> No.4696146

>>4696138
> this isn't some kind of momentous breakthrough. it means very little.
>proof the private sector is capable of orbital flight

>> No.4696153

>>4696146

this isn't proof, they proved that before you ignoramus,
there are several commercial companies with successful rockets and satellites, it's not that hard.

>>4696140
you.
you dick with your super eyes.
you just keep that one to yourself

>> No.4696160

>>4696153
...You don't need super eyes to see the station. NASA tells you when you can see it, for fuck's sake.

And flying a cargo ship to the ISS' orbit, docking, and returning it safely is something that has never been successfully attempted by the commercial industry.

>> No.4696217

>>4696160

yeah, it hasn't.

but this is also in no way any sort of breakthrough

its just nasa cutting costs

OOH SO IMPORTANT!?!

>> No.4696243

>>4696217
>Private space flight opening up the frontier
>Just NASA cutting costs
>Not important

Are you serious?

>> No.4696252

>>4696243

From the CEO of spacex

"this is not momentous, whether we fail or succeed will not affect the future of commercial space industry"

also
there are several much more successful commercial industries already operating in space.

no, this is not momentous in any way.
yes, it is just cutting costs.

>> No.4696263

>>4696243
>>4696243

you're attributing all your hope for future space flight into one uneventful launch for one company. Don't you think that's putting a little too much importance in them?

>> No.4696269

It's getting a lot of hype because it's the first time a non governmental source is rendezvousing with the ISS. other than that, nothing new in the technology or even in the commercial space industry.

>> No.4696286

>>4696252
>>4696263
The Moon Landing didn't affect the future of space flight either. It didn't demonstrate any new technology.

Would you argue they were not momentous?

>> No.4696290

>>4696286
but the moon landing did and did, that was an amazing breakthrough and the apollo program led to many new technologies

spacex HAS NOT DONE THAT AT ALL

quit being so ridiculous.

>> No.4696303

>>4696290
Apollo capsules were already designed and tested. We already understood and tested the Saturn V rockets and lunar orbits. Landers introduced no new technology. Trickle down from the space program had already begun.

There were no new technologies brought about by the actual landing.

You're holding a double standard.

>> No.4696312

>>4696303

>rockets built for apollo program
>used for apollo program
>many other technologies result
>lol not a breakthrough

>rockets designed by nasa
>used by one company out of dozens
>no other technologies result
>lol major breakthrough!

do you hear yourself?

>> No.4696337

>>4696138
You have to look at the right time... shortly after sunset or shortly before sunrise. There are utilities online that can plot the precise path it (or any other satellite in the database) will follow, their apparent magnitude, etc.

The ISS is bright enough that it can even be seen in large cities, if it climbs far enough above the horizon.

http://science.nasa.gov/realtime/jtrack/3d/JTrack3D.html/

As for SpaceX, you won't be able to see it from very far away. If it were a night launch on the other hand, you'd be able to see it most likely up to the Outer Banks of NC.

>> No.4696344

>>4696303
One of the biggest things to come out of that was to draw young people to STEM in general.

>> No.4696353
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>>4696344
I was just about to say that. Neil deGrasse Tyson agrees.

>> No.4696370

The bigger issue at stake here is NASA's commercial programs in general.

Right now programs like COTS and CCDev are facing not only massive cuts from Congress, but the threat of a forced down-select to a single provider (which would defeat the entire purpose of the program).

What many of us are hoping is that if this mission is a resounding success it may help to win some hearts and minds in Congress and show them that these programs are worth continuing as originally planned.

>> No.4696383

They're taking questions now:

http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/commercial/cargo/cots_tv_schedule.html

>> No.4696390

>>4696383
...or, were...Now they're talking about colliding asteroids.

>> No.4696391

>>4696383
>>4696390
You guys tuned in right at the end of the Q&A, sorry

>> No.4696393

So we should be an hour or so from launch? I'm in UTC+2

>> No.4696402

there gonna be a stream of the launch anywhere?
I wanna see if this thing goes up in flames or not

>> No.4696403

>>4696393
I think coverage starts in 20 minutes and the launch is in about 40

>> No.4696409

>>4696402
link to live stream (starts at 3:30 eastern, 12:30 pacific)
(click 'watch NASA TV' )
http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/commercial/cargo/cots_tv_schedule.html

>> No.4696412

>>4696402
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

>> No.4696415

>>4696412
>>4696409

thankee kindly

>> No.4696431
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4696431

‏@SpaceX
One hour until the official SpaceX launch webcast. Watch at http://www.spacex.com #DragonLaunch
>posted 6 min ago.

http://www.spacex.com/webcast/
the webcast starts in 46 min

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
also on NASA TV

Pic related, what we're going to see.

>> No.4696433

live coverage has started.

>> No.4696436
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4696436

we have video.

>> No.4696439

T minus 1 hour 22 minutes. At this time, everything seems like it will go forward as planned.

>> No.4696455
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>> No.4696461

so is this now the dedicated launch thread or something?

nice timing op

>> No.4696462

They just had an interview about the mission procedure. Apparently, Dragon will get into orbit today, then will take a couple of days to approach the station before docking, will be docked for about a week, and should come back at the end of the month.

>> No.4696475

>>4696462
Watching this got me wondering what happens with all the stages that are disconnected from the capsule during the flight.

Stage one (big one) that is detached first: does it land with a parachute and gets reused?

How about stage two (small one)?

The ring attached to the heat shield side of the capsule, with the solar arrays attached, wouldn't it get burned up in the atmosphere upon reentry?

>> No.4696477

this is a stupid question but
are there going to be people on it?
what are they pay-loading?

>> No.4696481

>>4696477
No people, only cargo going up the the station and spent stuff getting returned

>> No.4696483

>>4696481
that's cool
Have they done a remote operated thing like this before?

>> No.4696490
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>>4696475
I think stage 1 is supposed to land vertically, if not today, then in some future launch. Apparently that's what these legs are for.

>> No.4696493

>>4696475
They eventually intend to re-use both the first and second stages, but they have not yet done so. The final piece you see come off I think is fairing. If it is, then it is just dumb material and probably won't be recovered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_9#Reusability

>>4696477
They will not have any people on this launch. There is food and some other supplies for the station but nothing mission-critical (this launch is still considered a test).

>> No.4696496

>>4696483
yeah, it's common procedure

>> No.4696499

>>4696493
Actually I heard they're using this as an opportunity to ship up a bunch of the low priority experiments

>> No.4696497

>>4696477
Up: food, clothing, laptop batteries, etc., and student missions that will go down on Soyuz
Down: "trash"

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>>4696497
>laptop batteries
Gotta keep those A31 thinkpads running.

>> No.4696503

>>4696493
How do the costs compare to a Soyuz launch?

>> No.4696505

>>4696493
Also not to be recovered is the section behind the capsule with the solar cells, the so-called "trunk". It reaches orbit, so there's no way to get it back down without a heat shield specifically for it.

>> No.4696507

>>4696500
Just how many laptops does one astronaut need?

>> No.4696508

>>4696503
Soyuz, about $60M/seat for 3 seats
Dragon crew version, about $140M total for 7 seats

>> No.4696511

>>4696500
Damn, I hope they're sending up a few economy size rolls of Velcro.

>> No.4696513

Go to the NASA link
They're talking now

>> No.4696526

Allright, i'll defile this thread with a bit of actual information.
Lox tank loaded, into continious topping and venting. Rp-1 loaded.
around 20% chance of weather violating, high cumulus clouds.
any questions? i'll do my best to answer some of them. Yes, I know what i'm talking about.

>> No.4696532

>>4696503

Too early to judge. But I read somewhere that the whole Falcon and Dragon combo cost 800 million or so. That is VERY low price in aerospace business.

>> No.4696533

>>4696526
That's good, in the earlier press conference they predicted a 30% chance of weather violation.

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>>4696507
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkPad#Use_in_space
"As of 2010, the Space Station was equipped with 68 ThinkPad A31 computers along with 32 new Lenovo ThinkPad T61p laptops..."

aaprox. 100 laptops devided among 6 current ISS crew members.

>Just how many laptops does one astronaut need?
16 or 17

>> No.4696540

>>4696532
that's a wrong question to quote. That's development - and yes, it's low. Prices for just the rocket should be somewhere below 70 million, but they might rise as SpaceX bumps into QA problems, manufacturing errors, and needs to turn around high volumes of parts.

>> No.4696541

>>4696526
>weather violating
What kind of weather we talking about?
Rain/snow, strong wind?

>> No.4696543

>>4696538
most laptops on the ISS are loaded with their specific programs and experiments. Various computers also get flow down on soyuz, discarded.

Hell, I know a guy who bought one on ebay, flown and all.

>> No.4696545

>>4696538
Hahaha, wow, that's awesome.
You'd think they'd be a little more interested in minimising weight though

>> No.4696551

>>4696541
no chance of those on this flight.
High cumulus clouds, which could have parts of them that are below zero and still contain moisture - this can stick to missions. Also, for test flights they want to have good visibility for ascent tracking, ie camera's pointing at it so you can track easily and even find some stuff out if it explodes / shuts down / has an engine failure. Clouds prevent some sorts of tracking.

>> No.4696552

In case anyone is watching on the main NASA TV page, click on the UStream HD page link. The main page video was constantly pausing and going double speed to catch up and it was going to drive me nuts.

>> No.4696555

>>4696551
Engine failure is irrelevant, it has multiple engine out capability

>> No.4696557
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>>4696543
>IBM Thinkpad T61p that was in space
you have no idea how much I want that.

Image is the spacex ground control.

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>>4696144

Motherfucker is able to copy Wehrner's photo. So god damn jelly

>> No.4696567

>>4696545
why? if it's up there, you don't care about weight. The big problem once you get up there is not weight, but waste that needs to get out.
If you need a new laptop, you have to fly it up anyway - why not keep the old one up there?

being in orbit requires no fuel and all that.
>>4696555
wrong.
On this mission a single engine failure would perhaps doom the mission, it might fly on. Catching up to the ISS would require more fuel, though. 2 engine failures on any mission would make a rendez-vous impossible or VERY fuel ineffecient.
Multiple engine out is a planned feature for falcon 9 version 1.1, which has around a 50% tank stretch due to uprated Merlin 1D engines and can carry more fuel. It is currently slated to be flown on falcon 9 flight 6. - the one being launched today is number 3.

>> No.4696568

>>4696552
Agreed. The official NASA stream had issues for me as well. Use the Ustream if you have trouble.

>> No.4696572

T-40m

>> No.4696576

C'mon SpaceX, don't let us down, the world could really use your success right now.

>> No.4696577

Live feed from SpaceX in OP.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=28918.0;all

>> No.4696581

>>4696577
http://www.spacex.com/webcast/

this link works too.

>> No.4696583

>>4696577
Use this one
http://www.spacex.com/webcast/

>> No.4696589

>>4696577
NSF is THE prime internet resource for smart questions and answers - none of the "herp is there people on board.

I recommend EVERYONE to read their SpaceX C2+ mission article - this one.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/05/spacex-falcon-9-send-dragon-to-iss/

It has actual technical information and the correct terms, looks a bit to the future and is pretty complete.

>> No.4696593

>>4696581
>>4696583
Thanks samefag.

>> No.4696596

>>4696583
Mmmmmm... watching both NASA ans SpaceX feeds at the same time.

>> No.4696599
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4696599

ITS HAPPENING!!!!

>> No.4696600

t - 0:31:00

>> No.4696598

Balloon data says weather is go

>> No.4696601

DICK: HARD

>> No.4696609
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>>4696601
Are you getting hard from all the lawyer chic chicks or is it the building sied steaming dildo?

>> No.4696612

>>4696508

Where did you get that Soyuz manned figure? I know a satellite launch is somewhere around $40M with Soyuz. But then that is avoiding the complications involved in a manned launch.

>> No.4696614

I want to have Elons babies

>> No.4696616

remember, it can still be scrubbed, and that won't be a big deal. We might even get ignition and then an abort on the pad.

>> No.4696619

>>4696612
You pay for the Soyuz aswell, instead of just the launch vehicle for a satellite launch of a sat you already paid for somewhere else.
Also, mission control moscow, tracking assets, and yes, manned adds a lot of quality assurance etc.

>> No.4696620

>>4696616
>>4696616

Nooo shhh dont say things like that!

>> No.4696622
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4696622

>dat stache'

>> No.4696624

no issues being worked - weather green.
everything looks good so far.

>> No.4696625

They said weather was green, so hopefully no delays due to that.

>> No.4696627

>>4696609
Both. I'm bi.

>> No.4696630

>>4696625
Pffft. Who the fuck do you think they are, NASA?

>> No.4696633

is this guy's mustache certified?

>> No.4696634

>>4696612
That's the number I've been constantly hearing the past couple of days. It may be a tad more than that. But yeah, a manned launch WITH RETURN CAPABILITY is going to cost a bit more than a satellite launch. And are you sure they're using Soyuz (or even Progress) to launch sats?

>> No.4696641

>>4696633
I believe he got a Class B rating for it

>> No.4696643

about the soyuz - remember, there is a soyuz rocket ( which is used to launch sats ) and there is the soyuz spacecraft with its solar panels, return capsule, etc etc

>> No.4696638

that chick's voice is sexy.

>> No.4696645

>How fast wine can ferment in space
Shit nigger have we tested everything else?

>> No.4696646
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>>4696609
Any chance of a boner is kept in check by that 'stache.

>> No.4696649

>tfw if you sneeze on one of those cargo boxes you could fuck everything up

>> No.4696644

Houston has given a 'go'.

>> No.4696652

>>4696567
It should still be able to complete this C2+ mission even with one engine out. They just throttle up the remaining engines.

>> No.4696653

just said t-48 for me... u guys are posting earlier times... can I get a link to the stream ur watching?

>> No.4696656

>>4696653
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ustream.html

and

spacex.com

>> No.4696657

>>4696656
>spacex.com
sorry,

http://www.spacex.com/webcast/

>> No.4696660

>>4696649
Not really, they do it in a clean room so it doesn't get covered in metal shavings or other shit that could float around and be breathed in.

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>>4696609
dat supersonic

>> No.4696663

T- 15!!!!

>> No.4696664
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4696664

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>> No.4696666

>>4696652
engines are at 100% throttle. They'll fire longer and gimbal, though.

>> No.4696667

>>4696653
im watching at
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=28918.0;all
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

launch is at 10:55 GMT+1 (so i think that's 4:55 eastern time? or 3:55?)

t - 15 minutes

>> No.4696670

>>4696660
low quality clean room, though. Notice they aren't even wearing face masks.

>> No.4696672

>>4696656
>>4696657
FYI, both streams are different. I'm watching both, but I have spacex's volume down lower right now while they're doing Viewer Mail.

>> No.4696675

Spacex has polled their MCC ( mission control centre ) and has given a preliminary go for launch - same as weather.

>> No.4696668

>>4696661
Shit nigger you're 10 minutes behind

>> No.4696676
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>> No.4696678

2 minutes to go for final poll.

>> No.4696682

>>4696676
fuck that hair and stache combo is amazing

>> No.4696686

So who has the main mission control here? NASA or SpaceX?

>> No.4696687

Dat OSM hesitation

>> No.4696688

shit, OSM get it together.

All go so far.

terminal count started

>> No.4696689

OSM WHERE ARE YOU?

>> No.4696691

>>4696686
Launch is SpaceX, NASA takes over when they get near the ISS

>> No.4696695

>>4696686
launch ; SpaceX.
dragon: SpaceX, supervised by nasa.
Nasa gives final go-nogo for approach, controlled by spacex.
once berthed; nasa.
once freeflying again: spacex

>> No.4696696

>>4696664
What, you didn't know? That's why they have that "instantaneous window". They need every drop of capsule fuel for mission maneuvers. (Also, turnaround from launch abort is like half an hour or so.)

>> No.4696699

>Dat OSM spaghetti

>> No.4696700

>inb4 the spaceshuttle knocks the ISS out of orbit, making a laughing stock of private space ventures

>> No.4696703

Why doesn't this shitty 4chan extension auto update? (no F5)


What do you guys use?

>> No.4696705

TEN MINUTES

>> No.4696706

>>4696676
thank you for my new wallpaper

>> No.4696707

>>4696703
4chan x

>> No.4696708

>>4696703

4chan X, set to update every second. Works flawlessly.

Also T-minus 10 minutes

>> No.4696709
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4696709

just a reminder spacex is a neoliberal pipe dream, public circus for bureaucrats.

>> No.4696710

>>4696696
turnaround depends on time of hold/abort - but yes, this will be instantanious - dragon will do something like 3 ISS abort manouvers.

>> No.4696714

>>4696706
lol, anytime!

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>> No.4696716

9 MINUTES
gentlemen
come over to synchtube
room: drrichard

>> No.4696711

>>4696703
4chan x, you boob

>> No.4696718

>>4696700
>the spaceshuttle

>> No.4696719
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>>4696667 10:45 GMT+1

0945 GMT

10 minutes

TERMINAL COUNT STARTED

>We are not showing any engines

wat

Oh god my balls

>> No.4696723

T-8 minutes, Nice view of engines being precooled and lox being vented.

>> No.4696724

>>4696707
>>4696708
>>4696711
Thanks

>> No.4696725

>yfw Sonic jumps onto the rocket at the last second

>> No.4696726

>>4696709
>dat free market competition
finally

>> No.4696728

>sorry guys, we forgot to attach the engines
everyone go home

>> No.4696730

Its leaking gas. Someone should tell them before its too late.

>> No.4696731

Oh shit 7 minutes.

Already preparing for sudden disappointment

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>>4696725

>> No.4696735

ok place your berts
explode or not explode?

>> No.4696736

Hmm, my NASA stream is like 8 seconds ahead of the spacex stream. Oh yeah, I get to watch it launch twice!

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4696737

Hey Anon, your mom's dildo is ready.

>> No.4696738

>>4696735

IMO, scrub.

>> No.4696739

What does an "instantaneous window" imply/mean?

>> No.4696740

>>4696735
It'll be fine

>> No.4696741
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4696741

so where do i sign?

>> No.4696742

>>4696735
no explode. might scrub just a second after engine ignition, or anywhere at t minus 90 till launch.

It'll go up, I hope.

>> No.4696746

spacex stream where

>> No.4696747

>>4696735
call me optimistic, but I think not explode

these guys are so excited for it
although, you can tell they're nervous in front of cameras

true engineers

>> No.4696748

>>4696739
1 second where it has to go off. Nothing can go wrong or be needing to be fixed.

internal power.

>> No.4696749

>>4696735
they were saying something about 3 other flights, is this the first launch for the Falcon 9??

>> No.4696750

So what are you guys playing as background music for the launch?

>> No.4696751

>>4696735
My money's on not explode. I suspect any failures will be stuff like software failures.

>> No.4696752

Oh fuck, 4 minutes

>> No.4696753

>>4696728
i just saw some nozzles! do you think there were engines inside?

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>>4696735

$10 for explode

>> No.4696760

>lolterrorism

>> No.4696761

>>4696749
3rd.
first carried mass simulator ( some steel bars, basically )
2nd was dragon capsule without solar panels/ trunk - 2 orbits, reentered succesfully.
this is the first full dragon + trunk falcon 9

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i need to take a shit

>> No.4696763

Not only will it not explode, but it will swirl rainbows around the world bringing us all to together in harmony.

Calling it.

>> No.4696767

>>4696749
This is the third flight of the Falcon 9

>> No.4696769
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>>4696735

>> No.4696770

GO FOR LAUNCH

2 MINUTES FUCK YEAH

>> No.4696771

gona focus on the stream now
see you guys starside

>> No.4696772

>launching in the dark


L-D IS GO FOR LAUNCH

>> No.4696773

>tfw need to take a shit

>> No.4696774

3 minutes

>> No.4696776

>>4696762
my interwebs are going in and out, haha, with my luck, ill miss it.

>> No.4696777

stopped Lox venting. stage pressurizing.
Final prechill of engines

>> No.4696778

>>4696749
Third Falcon 9 flight, second Dragon flight, first mission to ISS

We're just shy of T -60 seconds

>> No.4696780

One goddamn minute.

Let's do this.

>> No.4696781

T-1 MINUTE

>> No.4696782

1 MINUTE NIGGERS

>> No.4696783

Oh snap, boys! Here we go!

>> No.4696785

30 SECONDS

>> No.4696786

my body is ready!

30 seconds!!

>> No.4696787

TO INFINITY AND BEYOND!

>> No.4696788

FUCK YEAH IT FAILED

LOL.

>> No.4696790

aw snap

>> No.4696791

shiiit nigggaaaa

>> No.4696792

terminal count abort after engines start, as i said,
probably another redline abort,

>> No.4696793

FUCK

>> No.4696794

ABORTED

>> No.4696795

fuck wtf

>> No.4696796

Oh, shit.
What happened?

>> No.4696797

fucking damnit

>> No.4696798

Oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit

>> No.4696800

Shit, cutoff and launch aborted.

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WAAAAAAAAGH

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ABORT

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FAIL

>> No.4696805

cutoff. launch abort. D:

Computer didn't start up.

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Oops.

Try again Tuesday.

>> No.4696807

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>> No.4696809

well that sucked

>> No.4696810

Well fuck now those astronauts are going to starve to death.

Thanks a lot SpaceX.

>Did I hear that guy crying?

>> No.4696811

>>4696616
>remember, it can still be scrubbed, and that won't be a big deal. We might even get ignition and then an abort on the pad.


LOOOL CALLED IT

>> No.4696789

NO

>> No.4696812

look at it go!

>> No.4696813

FLIGHT COMPUTER NOT START UP

ABORT ABORT ABORT

>> No.4696814

see you all in 2-3 days guys.

>> No.4696816

MUH FREE MARKET!!!! NOO!!!!

>> No.4696817

Well, that was anticlimactic.

>> No.4696818

>flight computer did not start up
Almost just shot a few million dollars randomly into space.

>> No.4696819

it could have failed catastrophicly

at least they can try again

>> No.4696820

I came back from a shower and tuned in at t-4seconds.
Why did it fizzle out like that?

>> No.4696822

>>4696806
Not necessarily, they've got a pretty quick turnaround on these Falcon launches. They could try again within ~30-60 minutes if it's not serious.

>> No.4696827

Great, and now they practically have 300 metric tonnes of unexploded ordnance in their hands.

>> No.4696829

anyone else see Diablo 3 on those computers?

>> No.4696830

>>4696822
except they have an 1 second launch window for this launch.

>> No.4696832

>>4696822
You haven't been paying attention to all that shit about launch windows, have you? The next scheduled try is Tuesday.

>> No.4696833

blue balls like a mofo now >=[

>> No.4696834

Will they get another chance to launch tonight?

>> No.4696825

>>4696820
falcon 9 computer said stuff wasn't ready, so it didn't launched.

>> No.4696826

Well, that was embarrassing.

>> No.4696840

Giant phallic structure
can't get it up

>> No.4696841

>>4696827
>rocket fuel
>unexploded ordinance

they're going to cycle it out of the tank, then refuel the vehicle

>> No.4696843

>>4696822
apparently not, according to glasses guy

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>Stayed up really late for this shit
>mfw

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I was humping the air like a madman while it was going to launch.

It was that sole act that made the computers fail.
"I wanna do something retarded while something to advance humanity occurs"

a "What was I doing when" moment to keep for the ages.

>> No.4696837

>WE WILL NOT BE LAUNCHING TODAY
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>> No.4696838

most expensive -and late- april fool's?

>> No.4696846

next oppertunity on the 22nd, damn

>> No.4696847

I thought NASA's budget was obliterated in favor of a couple more Predators for our oil war?

Or is this that civilian rocket I've been hearing so much about?

>> No.4696849

PRIVATE ENTERPRISE IN ACTION.

>> No.4696851

>>4696836
Dammit, Anonymous, you always do that.

>> No.4696852

engine 5 chamber pressure abort checked by computer and wasn't correct.
Now in detanking and scrub. Wonder what that error was.

>> No.4696854

I want my money back.

>> No.4696855

"Chamber overpressure on engine 5" caused the abort

>> No.4696856

Now I know how a woman feels when I prematurely ejaculate.

>> No.4696858

>>4696830
Why the hell was the window so short?

>> No.4696860

If only we didnt elect Obama, the free market could have fixed it!

>oh wait

>> No.4696861

>>4696854
just enjoy the show

>> No.4696862

>>4696849
So what? When NASA fucks up people die.
These guys sustained no casualties

>> No.4696863

engine 5 chamber pressure high

>> No.4696859

>>4696847
both are true, NASA's been gutted to shoot more sand mexicans and this in the private launch.

>> No.4696865

>>4696862
there was no one in the fucking thing

>> No.4696866

>>4696847
Well... technically NASA's budget is the highest its been in years... it's just not as high as it ought to be and Congress has been forcing NASA to dump a lot of its funding into a shitty rocket that's never going to be built (SLS)

>> No.4696867

>>4696858
Because they're trying to reach something that's already in orbit. It takes extra fuel to catch up, and they need all the capsule fuel for the mission maneuvers.

>> No.4696868

>>4696858
maximising propload for all the manouvers ( 3 ISS safety aborts, 3 times backing up, getting closer, moving away, etc etc etc, ) gives you an ideal 1 second window.

>> No.4696869

>>4696841
Yes, but until they do recycle it, it's an unexploded bomb.
A very safetied bomb, but a bomb nonetheless.

Hope nothing else goes wrong before it's empty.

>> No.4696871

well, the 20th we have that eclipse, then on the 22nd a rocket launch

could be a couple cool days ahead

>> No.4696873

You can hear the sadness in their voices.
it's like 4000 middle aged men just got turned down to prom and they're keeping a straight face about it.

>> No.4696874

>>4696869
Its been sitting on the launch pad full of Rocket fuel for the past 2 hours

>> No.4696875

>>4696867
>>4696858
real falcon 9 resupply missions will indeed have 5-6 minute windows. They just want to be sure that they can get to the ISS after getting into orbit. A pad abort is WAY less annoying then not having enough fuel for getting to the ISS.

>> No.4696876

SpaceX, are you even trying?!?

>> No.4696877

>>4696871

They ought to send a man to that eclipse. Its something that has never been done before.

>> No.4696878

Well shit... this sucks.

50 bucks says some asshole in Congress uses this as "indisputable proof" that the NASA-commercial partnership programs "can't cut it".

>> No.4696879

>Next launch opportunity: Tuesday May 22

>> No.4696880

>>4696153
The ISS looks a bit bigger than mars and moves much much faster than everything else when you can see it

>> No.4696881

3:44AM Tuesday is the next launch opportunity.

Till then, guys.

>> No.4696883

It's over; the free market is finished!!

>> No.4696885

I bet the LIBERALS did this.

>> No.4696888

>>4696878
It will take a congressman longer than 3 days to capitulate on this.

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>>4696863
>engine 5 chamber pressure high
More like engine 420, amirite?

>> No.4696891

>>4696883
NOOOOOOOOO

WHY BASED PAUL

>> No.4696884

Holy shit, it just exploded
this can't be real

>> No.4696892

New Scientist ‏@newscientist

#SpaceX says the problem causing the #DragonLaunch abort was a high chamber pressure in Engine No. 5 on first stage

>> No.4696893

>>4696884
fun is temporarily prohibited

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>>4696876
better to abort the launch than to explode

>> No.4696897

>>4696895

It didnt fly into space.

>> No.4696899

>>4696873
nah, aborted launches are no big deal, they happen all the time

catastrophic falures on the other hand, that shit gets plastered all over the news

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Gods fucking dammit.

>> No.4696895

Wait, so what the fuck went wrong?

>> No.4696902

>>4696895
An astronaut wasn't on board.

>> No.4696903

>>4696895
streaker ran across the launch pad

>> No.4696904

>>4696892
WTF it's supposed to be able to take off with one engine off-line.

>> No.4696905

>>4696895
The computer monitoring all the parameters said that one of the engines had some parameter outside normal bounds, and aborted the launch. They'll go over the data to see exactly what it was and fix anything that needs fixing before Tuesday.

>> No.4696906

>>4696873
You think this is bad? You should have seen the press conference after Orbital's Taurus failed to jettison the nosecone for the second time in a row. They looked like they were attending their own funeral!

>> No.4696907

>>4696904
Overpressure is different, and they want the 1-3 engine failure as backup not as a main plan.

>> No.4696908

>>4696895
chamber overpressure on one of the engines triggered auto-shutdown

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>> No.4696910

>>4696904
Maybe take off, yeah, but I doubt they'd make the rendezvous with the ISS if they had a 1-second ideal window in the first place.

>> No.4696912

>>4696904
That doesn't mean they'll do it.
Especially not before building some confidence through many successful launches

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FUCK. I BLAME THE NIGGERS FOR THIS ONE

>> No.4696914

>>4696904
jesus fucking christ did you even read the thread.
do you even think

Holy shit

you're still on the launch pad. one engine approaches an abort limit. Do you say "hey, i'll launch anyway!" or just think for a second with your multi-million launcher and say "nah, i'll try again tuesday".

Also, NO FUCKING ENGINE OUT ON THIS VEHICLE YET

THAT SHIT IS PLANNED. JUST LIKE STAGE RECOVERY

>> No.4696917

Just out of curiosity, how much does it cost to abort a launch like this?

>> No.4696918

THEY ARE RESETTING THE LAUNCH

>> No.4696919

>>4696904
>it's supposed to be able to take off with one engine off-line.
it is, but why add unnecessary risk? what if they started with one engine offline and another failed during boost?

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"President Obama intervened at the last moment using his executive authority to scrub the launch. When asked for his reasoning behind the call, he pointed to a lack of diversity on the engineering team responsible for the Dragon spacecraft."

>> No.4696921

It's been a good thread, guys.
let's have another one tuesday~

>> No.4696924

>>4696918
Nope, they missed their window to rendezvous with the ISS, they'll try again Tuesday

>> No.4696925

HOLY FUCK, THE ROCKET IS LAUNCHING ANYWAY! PATHETIC H-H-HACKER!

>> No.4696927

>>4696925
hurrr

>> No.4696930

Omg! Guis! Get back to the stream! The rocket just became sentient!

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>> No.4696929

>>4696917
Probably just the fuel/coolant and the wages of all the nasa folks and the rent of the launch pad and etc etc etc.

>> No.4696933

They want to make this perfect guys, the future of the free market space industry is on the line here. One mistake (DEATH AND EXPLOSIONS) and the media will be all over it.

>> No.4696935

>>4696930
OMG it turned into the Stay Puft marshmallow man!

>> No.4696934

>>4696919
no it is not.

You'll never launch with 1 engine not working - that's why they have hold-down systems.

Also, engine out is planned ( let alone multiple engine out ) for the FUTURE ie not here yet.

>> No.4696940

>>4696874
And when it failed to go, it became a rather bigger problem.
It's not an inert hunk of metal that you can just bang with a hammer without consequences.

Yes, they have the procedures to disarm it safely, but until they do, they're treating it with the proper respect and making sure there's no fun surprises around.

>> No.4696942

>>4696935

OMG you are right. And now the Falcon 9 is accepting the nobel prize and the academy award for best picture. This is the best thing I ever I saw.

>> No.4696943

>>4696937
Really? For an aborted launch that will be retried Tuesday?

>> No.4696937

MSNBC will be shitting all over this tomorrow.

>> No.4696948

>>4696942
So beautiful. ;_;

>> No.4696949

>>4696943
They hate the free market. muh freedom!

>> No.4696955

SHH NO TEARS ONLY DREAMS NOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07wZiqJlu3U&feature=related

this is what's playing throughout the offices over at SpaceX

>> No.4696960

>>4696955
I laughed.

>> No.4696964

inb4 some engineer forgot to push his button because he was too busy posting in this thread

>> No.4696969

Last update - it was the center engine number 5 which hit it's limit for an abort. This limit was set conversative.

They could have launched - the fix for next time will be setting the conservative limit higher.

>> No.4696971

>>4696969
last update from me, that is.
im off for something to eat.

>> No.4696974

>>4696969
>setting the conservative limit higher

Wouldn't that be skimming over whatever safety limits they have in place?

>> No.4696979

>>4696974
Not if they were already being *really really safe*.

>> No.4696985

THE FREE MARKET DIDN'T FIX IT

This is what happens when you privatise things.

>> No.4696995

>>4696985
>trolling in an autosaging thread where almost everyone has left
You must be so proud of your accomplishment here.

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>>4696964
8/10

>> No.4697008

>>4696995
Sorry, I forgot things autosage here so early.
It's still true though. Such a fuckup.

>> No.4697014

>>4697008
Yeah, come back when one of them blows up and kills people. Then it will be the same as NASA!

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to answer OPs question finally and with certainty.
not today.

>> No.4697057

>>4696904

You absolutely don't continue with the mission if you don't need to. Having one engine down automatically lowers your redundancy.

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>> No.4697396

>>4696934
>>4696914
>>4696567
from the presser:

"Need all nine engines for lift off. Two engines can fail later for nominal mission."

They have always had the engine-out capability, a feature for their later man-rated Dragon flights.