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4692704 No.4692704 [Reply] [Original]

Was geometry invented, or discovered?

>> No.4692705

Yes.

>> No.4692709

Was the word "geometry" invented, or discovered?

>> No.4692710

Invented. It's a human construct that relates to the world.

>> No.4692718

Gee. Are things that don't actually exist in nature an invention? Sure is a hard question.

>> No.4692725

>>4692718
Shapes do not appear in the physical world, yet they can be described by math. Sure the language of mathematics was invented, but was math itself discovered?
Is math in its fundamental form not natural?

>> No.4692728

>>4692725
First:
What makes you think your question is meaningful?

>> No.4692733

discovered

see/read Euclid's Elements.

>> No.4692735

Discovered. Logical relations of ideas are always there, they always have potentiality to be known and formulated. They're merely properties of things reasoned from pure definitions, mostly. Same with mathematical axioms. You can take an axiom and find logical extensions to derive a theorem, or derive them to prove the theorem.

So, within whatever logical framework humans see reality from, they are discovered.

>> No.4692746

Discovered. It is naturally occurring.

>> No.4692751

>>4692728
Okay it's philosophy, but what you're asking should not be your first concern, if at all.

>> No.4692755

>>4692751
I disagree.

Otherwise, I demand you tell me how much Tuesday weighs.

>> No.4692756

>>4692725
Shapes are abstraction. Math is abstraction. Abstraction is natural to the human mind.

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>>4692755
If you have nothing to contribute, kindly get the fuck out.

>> No.4692769

>>4692764
>I point out a distinct possibility that your question is inherently flawed and actually doesn't have meaning
>You just get mad instead of considering the possibility that you are wasting your time with a mental error
'K, have a good one.

>> No.4692773

>>4692769
3/10
Made me reply.

>> No.4692776

>>4692773
Whatever you want to believe, man.

>> No.4692778

Geometry was invented. The rules inside of geometry were discovered.

>> No.4692782

>>4692778
This is what I mean, whatever it is that geometry is outside of the mathematical definition must have been discovered because it is fundamentally ingrained in reality.

>> No.4692835

Neither of those terms accurately describes the process through which geometry relates to the human understanding of this universe.

>> No.4692900

geometry is physics, string theory is math

>> No.4692902

>>4692900
Or rather I should say Euclidean, Minkowski, and pseudo-Riemannian geometry are physics.