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What would scientifically be outside the boundaries of the universe? Space unaffected by laws or gravity/movement/energy/light/waves void of any sort of matter or atoms? Absolute position? It has to be something, because for nothing to be there in a traditional sense, there has to be something there.

Tl;dr what surrounded the big bang, allowing it to even exist?

>> No.4685467

Perhaps a hot universe, which is worrisome, because when ours experiences heat death and becomes a cold universe, what will happen when the two interact??

>> No.4685473

there are zero particles in that area, therefore, literally nothing

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4685478

>>4685473
>that area

>> No.4685482

The universe is everything, by definition. "Outside the universe" is self-contradictory.

>> No.4685483

Heaven and GOD

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4685489

>inb4 qualia

>> No.4685490

>>4685473
So does that leave possibility that there is a greater "something" we're living in, outside of the universe? We can't be living in the interior of nothing. That makes no sense, even nothing has to have boundaries

>> No.4685496

There's no area there. The universe isn't expanding into anything (probably) so there just isn't anything there, because there is no 'there'.

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4685506

>mfw we rustled now

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>>4685459
>nothing to be there in a traditional sense, there has to be something there

>traditional sense

>> No.4685513

>>4685496
Then where did the big bang happen, and if there is no "there", how did it exist?

>> No.4685518

Either the universe is all space, and hence the idea of some place "outside" it is just nonsense (however much it contradicts our common experience), or there's other universes out there but they have no overlap with us and vice versa.

Cosmology's weird.

>> No.4685519

>>4685513
why do you ask this shit on /sci/
do you think anyone knows the answer to this
do you think it's some shit you learn in university you dumb fuck

NO

nobody knows what the fuck happened to make the universe exist

>> No.4685523

>>4685478
I should have said that volume, since we're talking about the three dimensions, and "that" refers to the place 'outside' our universe as OP suggested

>>4685490
no I mean we are in the everything that is the universe and there's nothing surrounding it

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Hyperspace /thread

>> No.4685530

>>4685513
are you really asking that..... obviously we don't know what was before everything's existence and sadly we never will know (MAYBE)

>> No.4685539

Depends on what kind of theoretical physics you want to go. Some physicists believe that there are an infinite number of universes coeixisting in a cosmic ocean, the space between them expanding at a rate greating than the expansion of the universe.

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4685548

Dear OP, there is a book called Hyperspace by Michio Kaku (high ranking string theorist at NY university) that covers this way the fuck better than anyone can on the internet.

>> No.4685557

In short, uncompactified spacial dimensions.

>> No.4685578

What's this "nothing in a traditional sense" you're talking about?

>> No.4685589

>>4685548
>String theory makes no mistakes