/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4678068]

Give me a fucking explanation.

[Anonymous No.4678070]

Subtract inside from outside.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678076]

G i think
i seem to vaguely remember this, but reading across the rows, dots on teh inside cancel out dots on the outside

1st row: 1 in + 1 in = 2 in
2nd row: 1 in 3 out = 1 inny anihilates one outty = 2 out
3rd row: 2 in + 2 out = 2 anihilations = 0
so, just the circle
= G

[Anonymous No.4678085]

OP here. Was leaning towards G myself because of the sums. Just wanted to know if there was some other fucked up explanation. It just annoyed me there is not pattern in the rotation.

[Anonymous No.4678087]

>>4678076
It works for columns as well as rows.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678091]

>>4678087
oh wow, yeah!

[Anonymous No.4678099]

This one tires me.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678111]

>>4678099
this one stumps me, i think probably E but i cant explain why

[Anonymous No.4678113]

>>4678099
F

[Anonymous No.4678118]

>>4678099
F

Colors rotate one direction, bars rotate the other direction.

[Anonymous No.4678120]

>>4678113
Thanks for that explanation, maestro.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678127]

>>4678113
>>4678118
FFFFFFUUUUU!!
i was thinking E or F
i figured thered be 3-3 bars 3-2bars and 3-1 bars in total for every colour
so E or F

[Anonymous No.4678131]

>>4678076
yeah, but whats the rule for the position of the dots?

[Anonymous No.4678132]

>>4678131
Irrelevant. That's not part of the pattern.

[Anonymous No.4678134]

>>4678127
Nah, your just dumb.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678136]

>>4678131
just a red herring i think, making it more complicated.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678137]

>>4678134
>your just dumb
>your

[Anonymous No.4678156]

I just can't accept there is no pattern in rotation or inside vs. outside, and that subtraction/addition is the only point of focus. Is it just a test to test one's abilities to find out which information is relevant and what's not? It doesn't seem like a traditional "IQ" question if G is the answer.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678161]

>>4678156
they have to make them fairly difficult towards the end, and maybe theres another answer that you could argue, and a different pattern might fit, but i cant really see one.

[Anonymous No.4678163]

>>4678161
>addition and subtraction
>difficult

Spoken like a true zoologist.

[Anonymous No.4678164]

>>4678161

Do you ever think some of the legit mensa tests provide MULTIPLE answers? Namely because of this...

[Anonymous No.4678165]

>>4678099
b

The figures rotate 90 degrees then 180
b is only one with right coloring in right orientation

[Anonymous No.4678168]

>>4678163

It IS fairly difficult if you don't expect the answer to be so simple. You might waste a whole lot of time on this question looking for a solution that isn't there.

[Anonymous No.4678172]

>>4678068

It's G

>>4678111 this one stumps me, i think probably E but i cant explain why

>i think

That isn't how logical deduction works. Guessing is for retards.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678175]

>>4678164
probably not, they'll only be 1 answer, they probably think about it pretty deeply and make sure there are no other patterns.
or maybe if there is a pattern, they'll say 'why did you pick that'? and then if you can explain it, and a pattern actually fits, i guess you'd get the mark?
not sure really

[Anonymous No.4678174]

>>4678168

It's not fairly difficult, fuck off.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678176]

>>4678172
i didnt guess, i narrowed it down to E or F, but i knew here was something in the pattern i wasnt seeing

[Anonymous No.4678178]

Here's another hard one.

[Anonymous No.4678184]

>>4678172

>Guessing is for retards.

You can make a qualified "guess".

[Anonymous No.4678193]

>>4678068

This is why computers should generate the questions and not people. The answer is G but the question is retarded with the red herrings. It defies the traditional idea with IQ tests (finding patterns). You shouldn't have to guess what the maker of the question was thinking.

[Anonymous No.4678200]

>>4678176
I am being slow but I can't see the pattern to
>>4678099

[Anonymous No.4678210]

>>4678178
i can't see a pattern
should i look for a row and column law?

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678214]

>>4678200
i cant see the patten either, but so that theres an equal number of all colours of the final grid, it should be
3 blocks: black
2 blocks: dark grey
1 block: light grey

so E or F
and then something about rotation or reflective symmetry, but i cat really see it

[Anonymous No.4678215]

>>4678210

I think rows are the only thing that counts.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678216]

>>4678214
*cant

[Anonymous No.4678222]

>>4678178

B

easy

[Anonymous No.4678223]

>>4678178
H
As the ball moves they both go -> then down to next row. If the ball moves onto a dark square it goes solid open or open solid

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678225]

>>4678222
then explain why, if not a troll.

[Anonymous No.4678226]

>>4678214
I can see the rotations but i couldnt see the colour untill you pointed it out
im not going to explain it either because i dont like you

[Anonymous No.4678230]

>>4678223
looks legit....i was looking for a column law..i wasn't looking at it like a sequence of 9 items...

also can someone link me to the test/game/whatever?

[Anonymous No.4678231]

>>4678222

Ready for the explanation?

[Anonymous No.4678232]

>>4678223
Also you can not see tha ball when it moves to a black square but as it emerges it does the open filled switch.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678239]

>>4678226
awwww :(

>>4678232
ah! i see it now
yep, H

[Anonymous No.4678240]

>>4678214 2 dark

No its 1 dark

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678243]

>>4678240
so far on the grid, theres:
15 black squares
16 dark grey squares
17 light grey squares

either E or F brings that up to 18 each

[Anonymous No.4678249]

can you give me link to game/test/challenge/iqtest those pictures are from?

[Anonymous No.4678253]

>>4678243

F obviously.
It's horizontal.

[Anonymous No.4678252]

>>4678243
Interesting,

But look at the first row for the sing squarrs

Light black black
is part of the pattern

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678256]

>>4678249
sure:
http://iqtest.dk/main.swf

[Anonymous No.4678257]

>>4678256

How did you find it?

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678259]

>>4678257
...why do you care?
i provided it, who cares where its from?
also ive done it before,

[Anonymous No.4678260]

>>4678068
OP, where did you get those from?

[Anonymous No.4678263]

>>4678256
thx.

[Anonymous No.4678265]

>>4678259

What was your score?

[Anonymous No.4678267]

I actually found another pattern when solving the test, it's stupid because it supposedly has only 1 right answer yet I can find multiple patterns usually.

[Anonymous No.4678268]

>Mensa member - 152 iq
>Didn't do 4 questions on the test
There are solutions for those online.
http://iqtestanswers.blogspot.com/2011/01/iq-test-dk-answers-and-reasoning.html

[EK !Udct9rbWC2 No.4678274]

>>4678265
92

[Anonymous No.4678275]

>>4678268

What do you mean by didn't do 4 questions? On your mensa application test? How can you get 152 if you get 4 questions wrong? How many questions were there?

[Anonymous No.4678278]

>>4678274

Not bad... FOR A NIGGER!

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678281]

>>4678265
cant remember, but i just did it now
<<<
i got stuck and just guessed a few, i could have done better

[Anonymous No.4678287]

>>4678281
>under one SD
bwhaaha

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678289]

>>4678287
i was rushing/guessing
i might try it again later when i'm fully focused.
i usually get around ~130 on things like this.

[Anonymous No.4678300]

>>4678099
>>4678113
>>4678118
I found E.
For each line, there a different operations.

Vertical Symmetry (one)
90° rotation (one)
Color shifting/switching (one of each or less)
Shape shifting/switching (one of each or less)
It seems that you have to do a symmetry or a rotation before you can color/shape shift/switch.

In the last line, you already have a rotation. There must be a vertical symmetry.
So B,C,D,F,G and H are out. It can only be A or E.
You can get to E by a vertical symmetry and shifting the shapes to the left.
A is just 1st row 3rd line with a rotation so it gets out (yeah, just because)

Stays E.

[Anonymous No.4678301]

How can IQ be valid if Feynman's was reported at 125 yet random 4 chan losers such as >>4678268
Get >150.

[Anonymous No.4678303]

>>4678275
36 question. If you do first 28 correctly you get 148 points, enough to become a member. It's almost impossible to do all 36 questions right in 40 minutes. Almost.

[Anonymous No.4678306]

>>4678289
what's the point in that dombfuck

[Anonymous No.4678308]

>>4678303
Is it a progressive matrices test ?

[Anonymous No.4678309]

>>4678303
1 minute/question?
wtf i spent 10 minutes on one.
anyway you should look for rows/column or just a 9 pieces sequence?

[Anonymous No.4678313]

>>4678301

Goes to show that IQ doesn't mean shit.

[Anonymous No.4678316]

>>4678301
With IQ of 120 and above some other abilities become important in determining if you are going to be successful in what you do. Hard work, persistence, wish for developing your skills...
There's not much difference between 120 and 150+
>Leave Feynman alone

[Anonymous No.4678320]

>>4678316
Then why is there difference between 100 and 120. I don't think the whole IQ thing is so profound that it's a logarithmic esq scale.

[Anonymous No.4678327]

>>4678320
You need to be more clever to get 120 than 100. Questions come in 3 categories: 12 easy ones(missing element), 12 middle ones(diagonal logic and combination of elements) and 12 hard ones (everything previous).
>IQ doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous No.4678330]

>>4678327
But you also need to be more clever to get 150 than 120. Im sure that your IQ increases with preparation so I don't know how IQ is a valid measurement unless done in kindergarten.

[Anonymous No.4678331]

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/finding-the-next-einstein/201112/polymath-physicist-richard-feyn
mans-low-iq-and-finding-another

don't be delusional low-tier aspies

[Anonymous No.4678334]

>>4678178
F.
If you go by the number of black tiles it looks like this :
3 1 1
2 3 1
2 2 ?
Clearly ? should be 3. (we already have 3 1's and 3 2's)
If you go by the number of light grey tiles :
1 2 3
3 2 2
1 3 ?
Clearly ? should be 1. (we already have 3 2's and 3 3's).

So at this point it is either E or F.
Now notice the direction of the "base" :
down right left
right left down
left down ?
So ? should be "right".

So it's F. Yeah, there is indeed a pattern here.

[Anonymous No.4678337]

>>4678334
Meant to reply to >>4678099

[Anonymous No.4678341]

>>4678134

[Anonymous No.4678344]

Verbal IQ: 170
Mathematical IQ: 176
Analytical IQ: 173
Memorization Ability: ~140
Visual Pattern Recognition: 103

Woe is me.

[Anonymous No.4678345]

>>4678300 already has 1 rotation

I agree, so why are you rotating it a second time?

[Anonymous No.4678347]

IQ scores vary significantly depending on what standard deviation applied.

Here's a chart.

http://mensa.dk/faq.xml#spg23

Apparently it was changed from 24 to 15 in 2002. There's a PRETTY big difference when you convert it.

Keep that in mind everytime you see one of those celebrities claiming they had their IQ measured in 19-something

For example: 131 today (mensa level) = 149 back then.

[Anonymous No.4678354]

>>4678320
IQ tests are inaccurate as fuck. I was tested at 170 when I was younger. Yeah, I'm smart, but that's supposedly over Einstein and numerous other famous geniuses. But I still get a lot of the Mensa questions wrong.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4678356]

>>4678345
i think he's right
its definitely E or F based on the colouring, and notice how the 'base' never ever is on the top
it goes right, left, bottom, right left, bottom, right, left, bottom
etc
E would be having the base on the bottom ,just like the one next to it, which breaks the pattern

so F
(also ive made a new thread on this)

[Anonymous No.4678357]

>>4678354
Einstein never took a damn test.
>Yea, you're smart.

[Anonymous No.4678358]

>>4678345
But there no rotation from line 3 row 2 to E, only a symmetry

[Anonymous No.4678362]

>>4678331

>"Yet it has been reported-including by Feynman himself-that he only obtained a score of 125 on a school IQ test. I suspect that this test emphasized verbal, as opposed to mathematical, ability."

>"I suspect that this test emphasized verbal, as opposed to mathematical, ability"

Sounds like an excuse. No real IQ tests emphasize on verbal abilities. If it does then it's not an IQ test.

Maybe he was just so smart that he over-analyzed the questions and found solutions that were not (supposed) to be there.

[Anonymous No.4678363]

>>4678358
Whoops meant to say "but each row/collumn rotates twice"

[Anonymous No.4678370]

>>4678363
ah, but for me, the second rotation is a symmetry (which is a 180° so it kind of works)
the others pics only have one 90° rotation

[Anonymous No.4678372]

All the answers and explanations are already posted in this link:

>>4678268

[Anonymous No.4678375]

>>4678362
How about psychometric testing is more or less bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4678376]

138/145

fucking christ i got the last 2 numbers wrong

[Anonymous No.4678382]

I got 130, but I already had seen some answers and was on this thread at the same time, so I couldn't finish all the answers.
Maybe it cancels out...

[Anonymous No.4678383]

>>4678362
Or maybe people actually care about what you can do, not how fast you solve kid's puzzles in a test mainly designed to make people feel better about themselves. People didn't remember Feynman for what kind of number he got in a test and he didn't really give a hoot either.

I suspect that there are people that are both good at grasping kid's puzzles and abstract math concepts (many symbols and things you can't just visualize), and there are people that are only good at one of them. There are people will "get" the idea of pointers and recursion, and there are people that just won't. As always, psychology and biology are a crapshoot.

[Anonymous No.4678394]

>>4678383
Well put.
Your achievements are your intelligence.

[Anonymous No.4678408]

oh look it's THIS thread again