/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.4674817]

Did Mad Scientist drown under the sea

[Anonymous No.4674821]

hes been on DIY recently

[Anonymous No.4674823]

Who ever made that pic never heard of rawls.

[Anonymous No.4674828]

>OP's image
Cut that shit out. There's more to philosophy than that.

[Anonymous No.4674833]

No, he lives in his pineapple.

[Anonymous No.4674838]

>>4674817
More like

Science: "I have a theory."
"Let's try to falsify it."

Philosophy: "I have a theory."
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "THEORY?" DEFINE THE TERM WE ARE RESTRICTED BY LANGUAGE SO DEEP GOD EXISTS. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "TRY" WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "A"

[Anonymous No.4674844]

>people not realizing that without philosophy's claim that nothing can be "known," science would be impossible

[Anonymous No.4674849]

>>4674838
>Philosophy...
The sad thing is that you probably really believe that natural sciences don't work same way.

[Anonymous No.4674857]

>Philosophy is only people trying to be edgy
>I am so edgy that I even deny philosophy
die
There is good philosphy and there are good philosophers. People spouting "yuo cant' nkow this" aren't one of them.

[Anonymous No.4674867]

He got harassed into anonymity by harassment and accusations of pedophilia. According to him he won't be posting as Mad Scientist anymore, or updating anyone on his projects.

[Anonymous No.4674889]

>>4674867

Real pedophiliac acts upon real children? Because if not then I don't see how that is any cause for shame on this site of all places.

[Anonymous No.4674900]

>>4674889
In some thread some faggot was calling him a pedo. Only after a long series of questions, did it turn out that he said that because he was dating a 15 yo girl.
At least, that's what was said in that thread.

[Anonymous No.4674917]

>>4674857

>People spouting "yuo cant' nkow this" aren't one of them.

Yes they are, they're called skeptics and they're a smart group of fellows.

[Anonymous No.4674927]

>>4674857
What bout People spouting "yuo cant' nkow qualia & coz qualia science is wong"

[Anonymous No.4674933]

>>4674917
Philosophical skeptics do more than just spouting that.
>>4674927
They are even several levels below the aforementioned.
1. Define something as being "A and non-physical"
2. Clearly we experience "A".
3. I defined it to be non-physical.
4. I win
wat
At first I thought it was a joke..

[Anonymous No.4674937]

>>4674933

Of course they do more.

They also make the best kind of scientists.

[Anonymous No.4674942]

>>4674937
I realise now that I did not put the word "just" in the original sentence. Which is what I intended to say, and also what I though I'd said.
>There is good philosphy and there are good philosophers. People just spouting "yuo cant' nkow this" aren't one of them.
Better?

[Anonymous No.4674951]

>>4674933
>4. I win
/sci/ special Olympiad prize

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675019]

>>4674821
madsci abandoned us for fucking /diy/??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8OBlq_svBY&feature=related

[Anonymous No.4675020]

>>4675019
I hope he really did. His shitposting was terrible.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675025]

>>4675020
he didnt shitpost, he did all those cool under the sea thread
<<<

[Anonymous No.4675031]

>>4675025
He posted non-science spam, blog entries and role playing games. Tell me how this isn't shitposting. He has no science education, lack any knowledge regarding science and his stupid threads only attract more of the underageb& idiots who cancerously ruin the board.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675034]

>>4675031
>He has no science education
really? i forget what he majors in, but i always thought he did science.

[Anonymous No.4675042]

>>4675034
He was going for an arts degree, but then he was expelled from his arts college for violent behaviour. He's also a pedophile.

Please read the first 10 posts there:
http://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=bob+averill

[Anonymous No.4675045]

>>4674933
sup IQ faggot

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675048]

>>4675042
WTF!??
so madsci's real name is 'bob averill'

[Anonymous No.4675051]

>>4675019
/diy/ is in many ways objectively better than /sci/.
For example, shitheads like
>>4675020
>>4675031
almost never spam their vitriol in Mad Sci's threads, which can't be anything but a welcome change.

I would spend most of my time there too if more of the threads catered to my interests.

[IQ fundie !!8XTTCUzK2no No.4675053]

>>4675045
1. My name is IQ fundie, not IQ faggot.
2. The post you referenced wasn't mine.

[Anonymous No.4675056]

>>4675051
Except that "shitheads" like you call them are actually the people who come here for science and math. This is the board's topic in case you didn't notice. If you want underageb& bullshit, do it on any other board where it's welcome. Here it isn't.

[Anonymous No.4675057]

>>4675042
>dates 17 year old girl

OMG PEDO!!

god damn you are a faggot

[Anonymous No.4675059]

There are plenty of people who BS their way thru philosophy classes because they can but please don't let peasant attitudes toward philosophy tarnish the subject matter.
There are plenty of people who take philosophy seriously and generate novel, thought-provoking perspectives with philosophy and should be respected for it.

[Anonymous No.4675064]

>>4675053
>considers self 'IQ fundie'
>doesn't expect this to essentially be synonymous with 'i am a gargantuan faggot'

[Anonymous No.4675065]

ITT: we don't know the definition of "paedophile"

[sage No.4675066]

>>4675053
look at me xD I'm a huge autistic attention white LOL

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675067]

>>4675042
was he actually a pedo?
pedophile specifically means fucking preteen kids
perhaps this is more accurate? (still a crime in some places, but less bad IMO)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

[Anonymous No.4675070]

>>4675045
Lrn2comprehensive reading.
I stated that the qualia bullshit is even worse than solliptism. Only to proceed with the general obvious bullshit argument that they propose.
How in fucks name can you not have noticed that?

[Anonymous No.4675071]

>>4675057
He raped a 15 year old. That's unexcusable. He should have gone in prison.

[Anonymous No.4675075]

>>4675053
that's nice, now fuck off

[Anonymous No.4675079]

>>4675067
It is equally bad. He is sick and should be in prison right now.

[Anonymous No.4675083]

>>4675071
no he didn't

[IQ fundie !!8XTTCUzK2no No.4675084]

>>4675066
>>4675075
You summoned me just to tell me to fuck off?

[Anonymous No.4675092]

>>4675079
>not being dtf jailbait

clearly, you ar? a faggot

[Anonymous No.4675094]

>>4675056
Are you really calling undersea exploration 'underageb& bullshit'. Might as well call space threads outside the topic of this board you fucking troll.

[Anonymous No.4675096]

>>4675071
>rape
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape

Hurr dee durr too yung to gief consent

[Anonymous No.4675100]

>>4675070
cool story bro

[Anonymous No.4675101]

>>4675071
>raped
>all consensual sex with postpubescent but minor girls is rape
>>4675079
I really hope you don't actually believe that violently raping a toddler is equally bad as being so emotionally immature that you need to hit on 15yo girls.

[Anonymous No.4675102]

>>4675092
If you enjoy illegal perversion, you need treatment. Go see a therapist.

[Anonymous No.4675103]

>>4675067
>>4675067
Sup?
Rose Elizabeth Kelly-Lines
Tel: [phone]

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675106]

>>4675079
how the hell is that equally bad? when i first fucked a guy he was under 18, so i guess that means i'm an ephebophile as well, and so was he (i was under 18 as well)

so you're saying we both deserve prison for that, and its as bad as fucking a 4 year old?

[Anonymous No.4675107]

>>4675096
>implying archaic Christian influenced laws should be taken seriously
>2012

[Anonymous No.4675109]

>>4675094
He didn't post any scientific results. His "seabro" threads are along the lines of "hurr durr let's pretend we live underwater". Mostly he spammed low quality pictures of underwater tourist attractions. That's not /sci/ content.

[Anonymous No.4675110]

>>4675106

I knew EK was an engineer.

[Anonymous No.4675111]

>>4675102
you are a shitty troll

[Anonymous No.4675113]

>>4675101
>>4675106
It is the same thing. Don't try to justify your sick perversion. Get treatment.

[Anonymous No.4675115]

>>4675079
>>4675079
Clearly you'v never been outside murka, otherwise you'd know that many places in yurop have an age of consent under 18 years, e.g
Uk -16
Italy -14
Spain -13

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675117]

>>4675110
im a girl. (also, im actually bisexual, but w/e)

[Anonymous No.4675120]

>>4675115
I am not amerifat and I know that there are countries with close to no laws. That doesn't make it less criminal, immoral, degenerate and perverted.

[Anonymous No.4675122]

>>4675113
>derp

[Anonymous No.4675124]

>>4675113
>teenagers having sex are mentally ill

Okay now you are just an idiot.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675125]

>>4675113
oh come on, so if two 17 year olds fuck the day before their 18th birthdays its 'sick perversion' and they should 'Get treatment' but then 1 day later, if they fuck, suddenly thats magically totally fine??

you're either a shitty troll, or a retarded moralfaggot

[Anonymous No.4675126]

>>4675124
Our entire society is sick and degenerate.

[Anonymous No.4675127]

>>4675113
>Someone has a different opinion regarding sexuality.
>He must be sexually deviant.
Even though I am not like that, when someone is spouting this nonsense in real life, I'm afraid to point out what a load of crap it is. Just because they'll say exactly that.
Which, even though it's not true, is just something you want to avoid being called.
A 25 year old can have sex and regret it the next morning, and a 14 year old can have sex and cherish the memory for her entire life. The law is ridiculous right now.

[Anonymous No.4675128]

>>4675125
Yes, it is sick and wrong. The minimum age of consent should be 21.

[Anonymous No.4675129]

>>4675126
then leave nigga
we never liked you anyways

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675131]

>>4675126
if you're not actually a troll, then explain whats so wrong with it?, and why the age barrier is exactly 18Years 0 months 0 days that makes it okay, and not a day earlier.

[Anonymous No.4675132]

>>4675127
Don't you see how wrong it is? Minors are not supposed to have sex. They are goddamn children, they should go to school and do children stuff.

[Anonymous No.4675135]

>>4675120
>That doesn't make it less criminal
Yes it does, faggot.
>degenerate and perverted
Says the person who has no problem fucking dudes up the ass.
>immoral
who made you the universal judge of what is/isn't moral?

Pull your inflated head out your anus realise that once a girl is past 14 she's as ready for cock as any adult.

[Anonymous No.4675138]

>>4675128
>I'm more moral than others, therefore it is my business what two people I don't know do in their own bedroom.
Cool story bro.

[Anonymous No.4675140]

>>4675131
Setting it at 18 has probably the reason that this age coincides with finishing the minimum of education any person in our society should have. Of course 18 is far too young to assume maturity.

[Anonymous No.4675141]

>>4675132
>They are goddamn children
No they are not. They are teenagers.
>They should go to school and do children stuff.
They should go to school and do teenager stuff.
Oh, wait.

[Anonymous No.4675144]

>>4675135
You are either a troll or actually mentally ill. I will not further respond to you.

[Anonymous No.4675148]

>>4675141
The same thing. Teenagers are children. They are not mature and responsible adults.

[Anonymous No.4675151]

>>4675144
JB thread?

JB thread

[Anonymous No.4675152]

>>4675148
There are plenty of adults who are
>not mature and responsible adults.
Should we disallow them to have sex as well?
(Although disallowing them to reproduce might actually be a good idea.. But for other reasons.)

[Anonymous No.4675153]

>>4675148
>>4675148
You're an imbecile.

[Anonymous No.4675157]

[Anonymous No.4675161]

the poor children ;_;

[Anonymous No.4675167]

>>4675152
the law cannot possibly cover every nuance of every situation but in general in our culture minors, aka people under a certain age, have not matured mentally enough to be able to give consent to sex and are prone to being taken advantage of by older, more intellectually developed and experienced individuals.
That is the reason for the age laws, if you can figure out a better system, one with even less risk of minors engaging in sexual activity they may regret with potentially life-changing consequences, I'd like to hear it.

>(Although disallowing them to reproduce might actually be a good idea.. But for other reasons.)

lolwut

[Anonymous No.4675169]

>>4675157
fucking disgusting

[Anonymous No.4675172]

>/sci/
>eugenicist pedos

we're really scraping at the bottom of the barrel, eh?

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675173]

>>4675140
erm, well no.
people will have their 18th birthday in year 13, but it can be anywhere in that year, even right at the start
so education isnt finished, and yet its still totally legal.
UKfags can be legally bumping uglies at age 16, they probably havent even finished their GCSE's by this point, and yet its totally legal here (and i agree with it, its totally fine, 16 is a good age)

so my point is that its got nothing to do with finishing education.
if they're passed puberty, and o what sex is and actually decide they want to do it, its probably fine. its their choice and they're body, who the fuck has any right to tell em what they can and cant do?
(even though the UK limit is 16, contraception is still given out to people who are far younger, and they turn a blind eye.)
shit usually only kicks off if theres a significant age gap, like a 40 year old guy fucking a 13 year old girl or some shit.

[Anonymous No.4675175]

>the thread goes from bashing Mad Sci to a JB thread
>the quality of text becomes more mature
such is life

[Anonymous No.4675177]

>>4675172

Nobody on /sci/ encourages eugenics on anyone except stupid people.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675179]

JB thread?
<<<
=p

[Anonymous No.4675184]

>>4675169
>that delicious repressed homosexuality

[Anonymous No.4675186]

>>4675173
It's not just biology which may be constant across the human species but it's interaction with culture.
In more developed nations, the age will consequently be older because each individual has greater potential for personal development offered to them.
In less developed nations, the age will be lower.
but generally the world seems to agree anywhere between 16-20, perhaps about 18, being a reasonable place to assume the potential responsibilities of romantic relationship, including children, STDs, social drama, unions, &c.

[Anonymous No.4675187]

In a reasonable and moral America, teenagers (NOT prepubescents) would be guided in sex from time to time by responsible adults.

Unfortunately, we don't have a reasonable or moral America.

What we have are screaming faggots, batshit crazies, science police, perverts, moral hypocrites and twisted fucks. This board is evidence enough of that.

[Anonymous No.4675194]

>>4675187
>using 4chan as a basis for reality

hahahahahahahaha

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675195]

>>4675186
>In more developed nations, the age will consequently be older because each individual has greater potential for personal development offered to them.
>In less developed nations, the age will be lower.
nope
its 13 in spain
>implying spain is a 'less developed nation'

[Anonymous No.4675212]

>>4675187

Stop with your high and mighty bullshit already. Well, I guess I should expect nothing less from someone on /sci -- a person with an inflated ego who is out of touch from reality....

[Anonymous No.4675216]

Quality thread. But seriously, where is he? I want to drool over some new frontier thread.

[Anonymous No.4675227]

>>4675186

>but generally the world seems to agree anywhere between 16-20, perhaps about 18, being a reasonable place to assume the potential responsibilities of romantic relationship

No, actually its anywhere between 13 - 18 in developed world. And I think 15 is fine.

[Anonymous No.4675236]

>>4675195
um yeah its a nation of peasents outside the main cities

[Anonymous No.4675238]

>>4675195
Still, it's more about the average age at which a woman has her first child, not the laws about it

[Anonymous No.4675239]

>>4675195
please also not the differences there. I may state for germany that you are allowed to have sex at the age of 14 but you MAY be sued for having sex with a 14/15 year old person if you are older then 21 (because you might abuse the insecurity of a child, if you are older ... that's what the reasoning for the law says). Sex with 16+ yo is no problem IF you are NOT using a certain situation of pressure or necessity.

special laws also apply if you are in a special relationship to the youngling, i.e. teacher, employer etc. In that case it is not allowed (dependency)

and of course: no paying minors for sex, as this would be prostitution

I'd be astonished if there weren't similar details in countries with an age of consent of less then the age of adultery

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675243]

>>4675236
*peasants
and no it fucking isnt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
>spain: 12th highest GDP

[Anonymous No.4675258]

So if i was 16 years old and i like looking at sixteen year old females but 4 years later thats wrong? Go fuck yourself, no on wants to fuck a 30 land whale.

[Anonymous No.4675266]

Fuck damn, people still arguing that Spain is not shit tier? Have they even been there?

[Anonymous No.4675269]

>>4675258
it is expected that teenagers have sex with teenagers as both are in puberty
and 16 is fine, as said, as long as it is assured the partner has free will and you do not possess any means of pressurizing him/her

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675275]

>>4675266
have you?
i have, and its clearly a 1st world country in every way.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675279]

>>4675269
teenagers can still pressure each other.
of the two 16 year olds, one has to initiate, and the other might not be so keen on the idea, but they can be persuaded.

[Anonymous No.4675286]

>>4675269
>as long as it is assured the partner has free will
>free will

[Anonymous No.4675291]

>>4675258

>looking

These laws all refer to having sex with them. Looking is OK, and most people are attracted to 13-14 year olds. Because they are in puberty already.

[EK !EKFnQG0UBo No.4675294]

>>4675286
lol, determinism thread?

[Anonymous No.4675306]

>>4675279
I'm sure that what is meant by pressure there is defined in the corresponding law. It's a juridical question after all.

>>4675286
well as a court would define it (or has to)

[Anonymous No.4675829]

>>4675243
And China has the 2nd highest GDP. And India has the 3rd highest GDP.

I never said it was an absolute rule, it's obviously a complex thing but there's a correlation.

It makes sense, in different cultures, you are considered fully matured at different stages of neurologic development and experience, depending on the needs of the nation. As nations develop, their needs change.