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>the universe is so big that there MUST be aliens somewhere

>> No.4672726

>>4672719
who said that? are you quoting yourself?

>> No.4672733

>>4672719
Except that's a correct statement.

"MUST" is overdoing it but the odds of there not being alien life somewhere are terribly low

>> No.4672735

>>4672726
The retarded half of /sci/ honestly believes that.

>> No.4672737

>>4672733
Wrong, idiot. You can't say anything about "the odds". We have no basis for assuming any probability distribution.

>> No.4672738

>>4672726
why is there sage in your email field, I don't understand.

I tried to e-mail you at that address, but it wouldn't let me.

>> No.4672740

>>4672733
exactly, it's highly likely, but i've never seen anyone here who says must.

>>4672735
did u get some screencaps?

>> No.4672742

>>4672740
It's not "highly likely".

>> No.4672743

>implying that we haven't already found proof of alien life

>confusing alien life with intelligent life, complex life forms

Lurn2/sci/

>> No.4672744

>>4672737
>We have no basis for assuming any probability distribution.

are u going to support that with some kind of argument? Or are u just making whatever statements u want and pretending they are axioms?

>> No.4672748

>>4672744
It's your burden of proof. Good luck backing up wrong nonsense.

>> No.4672750

>>4672742

ok, so op is just going to pretend his opinion is the word of god or something. cool. cya.

>> No.4672753

>>4672742
of course it is, are you high?

>> No.4672754

>>4672742
If life could arise here through natural processes, then in the vastness of the universe those conditions for life are likely to occur in many places.

>> No.4672755

>>4672748
In what we can see we already know there are planets that meet the requirements to contain life.

Putting that on a larger scale there are millions of planets like that. The odds for at least one other of developing life would be pretty good if we managed to do it

>> No.4672757

>>4672750
I'm not OP. I'm just agreeing with him and unless you can provide any scientific evidence, your claims are considered wrong.

>> No.4672761

>>4672753
>>4672754
But that's wrong, you idiots. You don't understand probability. Your childish beliefs don't constitute a likeliness.

>> No.4672764

>>4672755
You still haven't explained how or why the odds are high according to you. Spoiler: They are not.

>> No.4672769

Personally, I view it far more ridiculous to claim there is only one life supporting planet out of hundreds of billions of stars in the Milky Way which is among hundreds of billions of other galaxies.

Since we lack evidence, alien life has neither been proven nor disproven.

Now stop being butthurt and move on with your life OP.

>> No.4672770

>>4672764
Uhh.. he did, read it again.

>> No.4672774

>>4672770
No, he didn't. He posted a stupid opinion. That's all he did.

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>>4672761
Considering your immature usage of insults and trolling, I think it's you who is childish here.

>> No.4672776

>>4672769
Without evidence they don't exist. Occam's razor.

>> No.4672778

>>4672769
it's not so ridiculous if one believed in some personal god.

>> No.4672779

>>4672775
Nope. I'm just right. I don't even need to troll, when saying the truth is already enough to make kids like you mad.

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>>4672775
las Falklands fueron, son y serán siempre britanico

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>>4672776
Just because you don't have evidence for something doesn't mean it didn't exist.

We didn't have evidence for the Big Bang during the Renaissance. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.

>> No.4672782

>>4672781
Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Or do you believe in unicorns, leprechauns and other fairy tales?

>> No.4672783

>>4672778
nope, still pretty ridiculous.

>> No.4672786

>>4672780
>Implicando yo soy Argentino

Their flag's face is just awesome as fuck.

>> No.4672787

>>4672782
dous that mean that a bunch of years ago bacteria did not exist?

>> No.4672792

>>4672776
If there was hardcore evidence then we wouldn't need to use probability. OP's point, however, was accusing people for saying extraterrestrial life must exist. No one has said that though, and OP hasn't provided evidence for that, so these imaginary people with that opinion don't exist.

You don't need hardcore evidence to use probability. If we had evidence, then why do we need to estimate at all.

Please elaborate on your opinion why we can't use probability.

>> No.4672793

>>4672786
>implicando
ok, lold

>> No.4672796

>>4672787
Bacteria have been observed. Aliens haven't.

>> No.4672802

>>4672792
You are using probability incorrectly. Your beliefs and opinions are not a valid basis for saying anything about the odds. And a bunch of non-sequitur arguments won't help you.

>> No.4672805

>>4672796
>implying al cropcircles are made by students pranking

>> No.4672807

>>4672796
>Missing the point entirely.

We lacked evidence for bacteria during much of our history. Yet they still existed despite the absence of evidence.

If you still don't understand this then you're either an idiot or a troll.

>> No.4672810

>>4672805
That's one possible explanation. And it's more plausible than hurr durr aliens.

>> No.4672812

>>4672802

non-sequitur only in ur opinion

>> No.4672813

>>4672807
Bacteria wouldn't have been observed, if they didn't exist. Aliens haven't been observed, so they don't exist. Simple logic, bro.

>> No.4672815

>>4672812
Nope, it's objectively a non-sequitur.

>> No.4672818

how do i into law of large numbers

>> No.4672821

>>4672810
i know what you mean.
but back in the day when they wonderd why 10% of females died while giving birth when the dudes there didnt wash their hands. the most possible explenation was dead like tisue on the hands of doctors and students that preformed autopsy.
you're ignoring the fact that science tends to be progressive and that there still are lots of un explaned things around here.

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>>4672813
Jesus christ...

>> No.4672823

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/12/111205-earthlike-planet-confirmed-life-nasa-kepler-h
abitable-space-science/

Kepler 22-b, Gliese 581d and HD 85512. All within the habitable zone (by our standards of habitability anyways).

That's 3 worlds where life could be possible. And only a "mere" 600 lightyears away.

If we count 3 possible habitable worlds per 600 lightyears, then that's a fuckton of possible habitable worlds. It's very likely that some of them are inhabited.

>> No.4672824

>>4672815

no, arguments based on biochemistry are not objectively non-sequitur.

>> No.4672827

>>4672813
Your logic is the same as someone before the invention of the microscope saying bacteria do not exist, you realise that right? Its impossible to say with certainty that there are no aliens.

>> No.4672828

>>4672818
Law of large numbers in this case would state the probability of aliens existing is close to zero. We have observed life on one planet. There is a large number of planets. One divided by a large number is very very small.

>> No.4672830

>>4672821
There's no need to use magic and paranormal as explanations.

>> No.4672833

>>4672823
Life COULD be POSSIBLE. That's not the same as being very likely.

>> No.4672835

>>4672830
Says the person who claims the mind exists separate of the brain despite all evidence to the contrary. Hypocrite.

>> No.4672836

>>4672813
no, things were observed, but they didnt know it was bacteria. therefor, bacteria weren't observed.
the lable bacteria was added to it later on.
its posible that we observe things that arn't explaned yet. and later turn out to be aliens.
cant prove yet, cant disprove yet.

>> No.4672837

>>4672824
This has nothing to do with biochemistry. Stating that from "X might be possible" follows "X is very likely" is logically plain wrong.

>> No.4672838

>>4672828

Oh god... please stop, both of you. You two clearly do not understand the law of large numbers and are both using it incorrectly.

>> No.4672841

>>4672828
>you're doing it wrong.mp4; 1.8gb BRRIP

>> No.4672844

>>4672835
I provided the evidence for my claims.

>> No.4672846

>>4672813
Do you actually think that in our short history, we've discovered and unraveled every discovery of science that will ever exist?

Just because something hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it can't ever happen.

The basis of the theory of other life existing in the universe is the fact that we're currently floating on a giant rock in space, and based upon that notion, there might be other faggots floating out there on rocks too.

>> No.4672847

>>4672828

That's

no

not how it works

>> No.4672851

>>4672838
I applied it correctly. The only estimation of probability in this case can be based on empirical evidence. Any a priori assumed probability distribution would be arbitrary and baseless here.

>> No.4672853

>>4672847
Yes, it is.

>> No.4672855

>>4672828
In the history of people doing it wrong, you have just managed to do it in the most wrong way possible.

Thank you, from this point onward, anyone doing it wrong can say "At least I didn't do it as wrong as that one guy in 2012".

>> No.4672858

>>4672837
No, the argument is the conditions on Earth are 100% possible for life to emerge(not might be), therefore it is logical to say that similar conditions can support life of similar biochemistry, and therefore if similar planets exist, then it is at least possible for extraterrestrial life to exist. The more planets similar to Earth there are, then the higher the probability of at least one of them having life like us.

>> No.4672859

The probability of life in the universe is 1:1 because we are here.

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>>4672833
We can include Earth in that group because Earth is an Earth-like planet within the habitable zone of the star.

So in this group (4 planets in 600 lightyear radius) we have a 25% chance that a possibly habitable world will be inhabited.

That's a guarantee that aliens exist. I mean, look at all this space. Even if there's a .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 percent chance of life occurring, it's going to occur, and multiple times.

>> No.4672861

>it's impossible to say

lol shut up, trolls. You're like the /x/tards trying to justify their bullshit beliefs.

>> No.4672863

>>4672855
Except that I did it right. Your inability to explain what exactly I'm "doing wrong" only confirms me being correct.

>> No.4672864

chance of life on a planet other than ours is zero

not small, zero

>> No.4672867

>>4672858
>The more planets similar to Earth there are, then the higher the probability of at least one of them having life like us.
No, that's a non-sequitur. From "it might be possible" you cannot infer "it is likely".

>> No.4672868

>>4672863
you did it the Douglas Adams' way

>> No.4672869

>>4672864
Got some evidence to back up that absurd claim? Perhaps you have surveyed every planet in every solar system in the universe?

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>>4672828

Has to be one of the stupidest things you said.

>> No.4672871

>>4672867
you can if you worship at the alter of scientism, where everything must have a naturalistic explanation obvious to the five human senses

it's a nutty religion

>> No.4672872

>>4672860
It seems you don't understand probability. Just because there exists a possibility it doesn't mean an event has to happen.

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>>4672864
Thank you. Now post pics taken on every planet in the universe that you took while checking so you could make this absolute statement.

>> No.4672876

>>4672868
I have no idea what that means.

>> No.4672878

>>4672869
of course. the Creator created life on this planet and none other

that's the truth, straight from the horse's mouth

anything contrary is a lie.

>> No.4672879

>>4672864
could thou enlighten me why thy thinks this
>captcha: Tsumer Gracchus

>> No.4672880

I just wonder WHY would all of those gov. officials, pilots, officers, etc in the Disclosure Project lie about what they said, then offer to testify before congress that their statements are true.

>> No.4672881

>>4672855

"Fundied it" will know be hereby used as a phrase to describe whenever someone makes an incredibly stupid blunder.

"Oh man, I sure Fundied that equation!"

etc

>> No.4672882

>>4672870
It's not stupid, it's right. Deal with it.

>> No.4672885

>>4672879
because it's the truth

life doesn't just come from non-life

that's absurd

>> No.4672886

>>4672867
Like I said, it's not it "might be" possible. We know for a fact that conditions like those on Earth can sustain life. So it is not going from it might be possible to it's likely. I knew what you were saying, that is why I purposely put in a 100% and a bracket.

>> No.4672888

>>4672881
+1

>> No.4672892

>>4672881

+10

And so it shall be

>> No.4672898

>>4672886
We were talking about other planets than earth. There it only might be possible, but we can't assign any odds.

>> No.4672903

>>4672880

>>4672880

That's just a fear-mongering tactic to prevent us from reaching the stars. Aliens are a figment of your imagination.

>> No.4672907

>>4672882
We have observed 1 planet with life and the 8 closest with great rigor. Therefore, 1/8 planets have life.

>> No.4672908

>>4672898
of course we can

zero

the odds of life on other planets is zero

>> No.4672909

>>4672898

Are you trying to tell me there isn't a good chance that there are other habitable Earth-Like planets in the Universe?

>> No.4672911

>>4672907
we have observed all of the planets in the universe that have life: 1

>> No.4672914

>>4672909
is zero a good chance?

>> No.4672915

>>4672909
Until they are found that's rather a moot point.

>> No.4672918

>>4672907
That would be 1/9 and your premises are still wrong. You'd have to divide by the number of ALL existing planets to get the empirical probability.

>> No.4672919

>>4672907
pluto isn't even a planet anymore genius

>> No.4672920

>>4672871
Really troll, if you do not think there is something supernatural going on despite there being no reason to assume this universe is anything other than materialist you are guilty of 'scientism'?. Try harder.

>> No.4672921

>>4672898
So you're saying planets with conditions similar to Earth doesn't mean anything at all when it comes to sustaining life of a similar biochemistry?

>> No.4672923

>>4672918
so are you. pluto is not a planet.

does anybody on /sci/ watch the news?

>> No.4672924

>>4672909
We assume some of the planets we've seen to be habitable. In no way this does imply they are inhabited.

>> No.4672925

>>4672920
did this make sense in your head?

>> No.4672926

>>4672918
>That would be 1/9

fullretard.jpg

>> No.4672928

>>4672924
i assume tripfags are fags. in no way does this imply they are not indeed fags.

>> No.4672929

>>4672921
It only constitutes a possibility, not a likelihood.

>> No.4672930

>>4672925
It makes sense written down as well, do you have trouble reading or something? If you really want I can restate it in simple terms for you.

>> No.4672934

>>4672924
Which is why no one has said there MUST be aliens somewhere, just highly likely, based on the number of planets that we have explored and the number of them having similar conditions to Earth.

>> No.4672936

>>4672929
no it does not. you have no basis whatsoever for presuming a probability of life on another planet

are you autistic?

>> No.4672937

>>4672923
He was talking about 8 other planets. He didn't say pluto was one of them.

>> No.4672939

>>4672924

Alright, so you agree there are places elsewhere in the Universe capable of supporting life.

Now, do you also agree that the components necessary for life (Oxygen, Carbon, water, etc) are fairly abundant throughout the Universe?

>> No.4672941

>>4672937
there are not 8 other planets than earth in our solar system

are you on any prescription medications?

>> No.4672942

This thread has been over-fundied.

>> No.4672943

>>4672934
And this "highly likely" is nonsense. It has no basis in science or math. It is just an irrelevant opinion.

>> No.4672944

>>4672936
You are repeating exactly what I posted.

>> No.4672945

>>4672939
you are working at an agonizing pace of presuming there is a chance life can be created from those elements

it cannot

it was not done here on earth at random, and it is not occuring somewhere in space at random

/sci/ has to be the stupidest board here

>> No.4672946

>>4672941
He did not say planets in our solar system. He only said planets.

>> No.4672947

>>4672944
You are repeating exactly what I posted.

>> No.4672948

>>4672929
With possibility we can deduce a likelihood. How likely it is is based on our opinion, but at least no one can say ET life must exist or they mustn't.

The way this thread developed was because someone made the statement "We have no basis for assuming any probability distribution.", which it seems we both agree to be wrong now.

>> No.4672949

>>4672946
read again, genius, this time with comprehension

>> No.4672950

>>4672945

what?

You're saying life can only be formed on Earth from these elements, no where else, because magic? What are you even talking about? Clarify yourself.

>> No.4672951

Would aliens experience qualia?

>> No.4672952

>>4672948
the likelihood is zero

you are dense

zero is the likelihood

>> No.4672953

>>4672939
I won't say anything I can't back up. Your question is irrelevant anyway, because as I already said possibility doesn't imply likelihood.

>> No.4672955

>>4672950
throw a bunch of elements in a jar, produce living creature, collect Nobel Prize

go do it

>> No.4672956

>>4672945
I fucking knew it. That was why I said it is not ridiculous for someone who believes in a personal god to think that Earth is the only place where there is life.

>> No.4672957

>>4672948
No, we don't agree. It was me who posted this and I know that I'm right. Something being possible is not enough to say it is likely.

>> No.4672962

>>4672949
He said
>We have observed 1 planet with life and the 8 closest with great rigor
See? He didn't mention pluto, neither did he mention our solar system.

>> No.4672958

news flash

there is no scientific experiment that has created life from non-life

not here, not anywhere

start looking elsewhere for the truth, or inundate yourself with information

your choice

>> No.4672959

>>4672955

Well unfortunately you'd need millions and millions of years, as well as proper conditions. The Universe has all the time it wants to spontaneously produce life from elements. Are you saying there is a people theory as to how life on Earth originated?

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>>4672952
cool argument religiousbro.

>> No.4672963

>>4672956
it's ridiculous not to believe in God

it's like not believing in yourself

God is more real than you are

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>>4672951

>> No.4672968

>>4672957
it's not possible. you can't comprehend the age old concept of zero

>> No.4672969

>>4672951
Not funny,.

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>>4672957
If it was you who posted it, then you are changing what you said. You said that it was objectively wrong to even say there is a possibility, and it is incorrect to apply possibility to this discussion.

You're trolling.

>> No.4672972

>>4672959
put Porsche parts in big shaker. shake for millions of years. drive out fully assembled Porsche

now realize how simple a Porsche is compared to a human being and hit yourself for thinking the universe is millions of years old

it ain't

>> No.4672973

>>4672960
God's opinion > mankind's collective opinions

>> No.4672975

>>4672972
It's scary that people actually think like this even when not trolling.

>> No.4672976

>>4672962
i said, next time use more comprehension

this time, use actual comprehension

protip: 1 + 8 = 9

>> No.4672977

>>4672971
I did not change my stance and I did never say it was wrong to talk about possibility. Only implying to know probability is wrong.

>> No.4672978

>>4672972

Trolls can't into organic chemistry.

>> No.4672981

>>4672975
it's scarier to realize that people think human beings came from rocks

although you might be evidence of that

>> No.4672983

>>4672978
oh my that changes everything.

oh wait it doesn't.

>> No.4672984

>>4672976
>protip: 1 + 8 = 9

Tha's why I corrected him and said in his case the probabilty would be 1/9 and not 1/8.

>> No.4672986

>>4672860
>Even if there's a .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 percent chance of life occurring, it's going to occur, and multiple times.
You have no idea if that's even a pessimistic or optimistic estimate. The chance could be something like 0.1^99999999999999999999999999 which would mean that the chance of life occurring would be basically nonexistent.

>> No.4672987

>>4672981

Sauce on the people who think this

>> No.4672988

>>4672972

>hit yourself for thinking the universe is millions of years old

It's not. It's billions

But I guess you're a troll pretending to be a Young-Earth Creationist? That's cool I guess, but young-earth creationism isn't going to troll too many people on /sci/. You might want to try a more subtle approach.

>> No.4672989

>>4672977
probability is zero

do you seriously not understand this concept?

>> No.4672991

>>4672987
99% of this idiotic board thinks everything came from a "big bang"

>> No.4672993

>>4672981
no one thinks that.

evolution says life came from a common ancestor. it says nothing about how that ancestor appeared

>> No.4672994

>>4672981
You're very good at this. You've got the changing the attack angle of ridiculous nonsense down to a tee.

>> No.4672995

>>4672988
if it is not millions of years old, it cannot be billions of years old

get a clue

the more proof there is that it is young, the older it has to be

that's scientism for ya; if something is stupid, just say it takes longer

>> No.4672996

>>4672991

which means they think life came from rocks?


Not even a clever troll

>> No.4672998

>>4672993
see "big bang" idiots above

unless you now want to say that the big bang was a cow or something

>> No.4672999

>>4672995
>lerp and indeed werp

>> No.4673000

>>4672989
It seems you don't understand probability. Do you actually think a probability of zero means it's impossible? Then consider the following: When randomly taking a real number, what's the probability of getting a natural number?

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If a probe finds life under the surface of Europa, or under the sands of Mars, the chances of alien biospheres outside our solar system jump to incredible values.

>> No.4673002

>>4672994
i'm God's fucking ninja

>> No.4673006

>>4672996
yup. big bang had to contain all the matter in the universe

or did you miss that implication? that everything in the universe had to exist inside that singularity?

>> No.4673003

>>4672998
it certainly wasn't rocks

>> No.4673007

It is time for /sci/ to accept aliens are our creators.

No other theory fits better than the ancient astronaut theory - just let it sink in slowly.

>> No.4673008

>>4673003
Do rocks/God experience qualia?

>> No.4673009

>>4672999
you just herped so hard you derped

>> No.4673010

>>4672981
>rocks

i suppose clay is a kind of rock. and adam was made from clay

>> No.4673011

>>4672989
why is the probability of a planet like earth sustaining life 0? do u have anything to support ur opinion?

>> No.4673013

>>4673000
trip 0's must be your fucking IQ

the probability of an event with zero probability is zero

do you need an MS paint picture for this?

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>>4672733
Why don't you go away and let the big boys talk.

>> No.4673016

>>4673006
>singularity
nope. not proven.

and not a troll

>> No.4673017

>>4673001
if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle

>> No.4673019

>>4673007
yes! and that alien's name is THE LORD

>> No.4673020

>>4673013
>trip 0's must be your fucking IQ
That's only the last three digits.

>the probability of an event with zero probability is zero
X is X. Cool argument.

>do you need an MS paint picture for this?
Go ahead and do it.

>> No.4673021

>>4672737
/thread right here, untill we look we dont know so, and with a sample of 1 star out of N(being unknown ad possibly infinity) there is no MUST for anything, we could be alone, there could be anything out there. fuck physics could break down past the barrier of whatwe can detect and may be some uber crazy shit we can not even begin to understand or extraoplate.

>> No.4673022

>>4673006

No. Heavy elements did not come from the Big Bang. Try again.

>> No.4673024

>>4673010
17 minerals in dirt, 17 minerals in human beings

but it took the breath of God to make Adam live

>> No.4673027

>>4673011
because it takes God to create life; that shit does not happen at random

are you "special"?

>> No.4673029

>>4673022
their quarks did

>> No.4673031

>>4673016
of course it isn't proven; it didn't happen

it's the fairy tale scientism practitioners tell each other so they can pretend they're smart, when in fact they can't even figure out that the Creator created creation

>> No.4673032

>>4673015
holy shit this bitch is ugly

>> No.4673033

>>4673024
there's plenty elements in dirt that aren't in man

>> No.4673034
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>>4673006

You fundied.

>> No.4673038

>>4673020
no fuck you i hate MS paint

you keep inferring that there is a probability/possibility conflict in determining whether or not there is life on other planets.

there is not. the probability is zero. the possibility is zero. the evidence to the contrary is zero.

it's a fantasy

>> No.4673040

>>4673006

You fundied

>> No.4673041

>>4673027
so your only support is some book written by anonymous people and edited and compiled by elitists whose goal was to consolidate control and power. cool story bro.

>> No.4673042

>>4673033
and there are plenty that are

do you have a point or are you just exercising your fingers?

>> No.4673047

>>4673038
If you think the possibility is zero, then believe it. I don't give a fuck. But mathematically it cannot be inferred from the probability being zero. Learn probability theory.

>> No.4673049

>>4673042
My point is you are fucking wrong about 17 elements in dirt.

>> No.4673050

>>4673041
yeah, taking the word of the being that created the universe, said HERE I AM, HERE'S HOW I DID IT, is totally un-scientifismic (new word)

>> No.4673052

>>4673027
So maybe God created life elsewhere, you retard.

You're not God, and you never will be, so stop talking like you know God's mind or you're God's one and only spokesman.

>> No.4673053

>>4673049
my point is u mad

and that elements in us and dirt are present in each

fucking asspies

>> No.4673055

>>4673052
oh, sure, my buddy God created life on another world and left it to it's own fucking destruction with no hope of salvation and facing a universal detonation

you really don't know my LORD

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>this thread

>> No.4673057

>>4673053
>fucking aspies

No need to get mad because you made an elementary mistake about elements.

>> No.4673058

>>4673052
you wouldn't believe His one and only Son; you're headed for the universal incinerator and you don't even know it

how stupid can you be?

>> No.4673062

>>4673057
fucking asspies

man and dirt share 17 elements

name them for me, in alphabetical order

>> No.4673064

>>4673062
Do your own fucking homework. It's not my fault that you failed chemistry.

>> No.4673065

>>4673053
>present in each
Nope. Plenty elements in dirt are NOT present in each, only present in Dirt.

>> No.4673067

>>4673055
Just like the other life on Earth.

>> No.4673071

>>4673064
passed the AP Junior year what now bitches

>> No.4673074

>>4672782
Nobody is saying that aliens have to exist. Just that given the amount of vast amounts of planet, probability determines that there should be planets where life can arise.

>> No.4673075

>>4673065
you really are slow; the words exclusively, only, exactly, and just do not appear in those posts

now you have to make the list

and you ate dirt as a kid to replenish yourself

>> No.4673078

>>4673074
i am. aliens have to exist. we call them God, the devil, demons, and angels. the last three are the same, but speciated in a sense

does anybody on this board actually know anything?

>> No.4673083

>>4673074
>Nobody is saying that aliens have to exist.
actually, op is saying someone said tat aliens have to exist.

>> No.4673084

>>4673075
Read again. They do. Are you borderline retarded? Can you even read?

>> No.4673088

>>4673075
Give me the list of your 17. You promised.

>> No.4673091

We are one with the aliens. Just like in the days of slavery, even though their slave labor was deemed valuable, they had to be set free because they no longer depended upon their masters. It is now our time to be set free.

>> No.4673092

LOL this fucking thread is still going

>> No.4673093

>>4673074
It doesn't actually, as no one knows what the probability of life appearing is. It's more of a random guess.

>> No.4673094

>>4673093
*geuss

>> No.4673097

>>4673088
fuck that i told you to

don't be ashamed to go to God and beg for mercy. He remembers He made you out of dirt.

just, you can't get into heaven made out of dirt. you gotta be changed.

or you can keep looking at everything He did until you wake up in a lake of fire. you fucking dopes.

>> No.4673099

And retard of the thread award goes tooo...

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>> No.4673100

>>4673093
it's zero. now you know. zero.

>> No.4673102

>>4673099
fuck you i win

>> No.4673104

>>4673100
>implying life doesnt exist

>> No.4673105

>>4673094
*gauss

>> No.4673107

>>4673104
the probability of life appearing is zero

another 'tard

>> No.4673108

>>4673097
don't be mad bro if you can't provide the 17

>> No.4673111

>>4673108
fuck that you do it

>> No.4673118

>>4673111
it's okay. everything will be all right. deep breath. you can do it

>> No.4673119

>>4673108
all right fuck you i'll google it

What are these common chemical elements found in rocks and our body? We are mostly water, about 62 percent by weight, and we must replenish our water budget daily or our body functions will be affected. Our planet is called the "Blue" or "Water Planet" because about 75 percent of the surface of the earth is covered by water. The earth's crust contains most of the 100 or so chemical elements discovered thus far. Only eight of them make up more than 98 percent of the crust. These are, in order of abundance, oxygen, silicon, aluminum, iron, calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium. In addition to water, we are composed of about 6 percent minerals: calcium, phosphorous, potassium, sulfur, sodium, chlorine, magnesium and iron. Do you see the similarity?

and fuck you water is an element

>> No.4673126

>>4673119
fuck you more elements

Our body contains many additional chemical elements, like iodine and fluorine, in very small but functionally significant amounts. Some of them are easy to identify; teeth and bones are composed of calcium phosphate. Iron is a very common element in rocks and critical to our good health. When we inhale, the oxygen in the air is bonded to the iron contained in hemoglobin. In this way oxygen is transferred from our lungs to the bloodstream. We need to recycle iron on a daily basis because we lose some of it in our urine, feces and menstrual blood. Luckily our body has a nice storehouse for iron, the liver, that helps prevent short-term iron anemia.

>> No.4673130

>>4673119
fuck you here's the link i found

i wanna fucking "A"

http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/erarchive/1998/September/erseptember.21/9_21_98Size.html

>> No.4673132

>>4673119
dirt, clay and rock is mostly silicon and aluminum

not in man

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>> No.4673143

>>4673135
^5

>> No.4673145

>>4673132
do you feel fucking stupid for not reading what i had to goddamn google myself? or are you just an idiot?

>> No.4673147

>>4673130
>0 references
>not peer-reviewed
>some random dude (bill size lol) somewhere typed something up after dinner one day and uploaded it onto the internet.

cool story bro. really cool.

>> No.4673150

>>4673147
holy fuck did i present it as peer reviewed you fucking aspie? it's goddamn minerals that we take in goddamn vitamins to goddamn survive.

you're so fucking stupid you can't even figure out what you're made of, or Who made you

that's fucking stupid

>> No.4673151

>>4673145
i made you google. it was lol.

but aluminium and silicon were first in your list.

if god breathed life into clay, where did the aluminium and silicon go?

>> No.4673157

>>4673150
if there are 0 references and not peer reviewed then why did u attempt to use it to prove a point? i could type some shit up right now and upload it somewhere and link u to it. that's not proof, that's nothing.

wait a second, are u bill size?

>> No.4673155

>>4673151
now you're asking how an omnipotent supernatural being accomplished what He accomplished, without giving Him the respect, adoration, and worship that He deserves

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

>> No.4673158

>>4673155
exactly

so why bring up chemistry to justify Him, when He can do miracles. oh ye of little faith.

stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid

>> No.4673159

>>4673155
>capitaling random words that you associate with a butthurt skyfagot with a grey beard
>2012
ISHYGDDT

>> No.4673167

ITT (about a third of the way through):
>NOBODY KNOWS ALIENS DON'T EXIST
>NOBODY KNOWS THEY DO
>repeat

i assume the rest of the thread follows this trend
shut up, all of you

>> No.4673172

>>4673167
So? I'm laughing my ass off reading this thread. Do you really thing I come to /sci/ for knowledge and education? I come here for entertainment.

Carry on guys.

>> No.4673241

>implying there's a magical omnipresent, sentient intelligence not bound by the laws of physics
>2012


Why didn't God have JC tell everyone HEY GUISE THE EARTH IS ROUND? Kinda gay of Jesus, really.

>> No.4673250

>Number of planets that we know can definitely support life:
1
>Number of planets that we know of that has life on it:
1

100% odds, eat shit and die OP.

>> No.4673272

>>4673241
Would have been pointless as people already knew about it.