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4620900 No.4620900 [Reply] [Original]

Do I have to know advanced math to be a psychiatrist?

>> No.4620905

no

>> No.4620913

no, math is mainly just used for science and business majors and business only needs the simplest of math

>> No.4620925

>>4620913
>>4620905
Phew, thank God.
Because math is all too confusing for me.
And I'm Asian.

>> No.4620928

In psychology class you will need to know statistics, and when you write prescriptions you'll need to know how to calculate dosage, so whatever chemistry classes you go into it's just using rudimentary mathematics. Nothing hard at all.

>> No.4620932

>yfw 2 years of stats classes and a semester or two of mandatory gen ed math

>> No.4620936

No. Math is never used or needed in 'real' jobs.

>> No.4621096

>>4620925
Oh well, but at least you recognize that psychology is not a science.

>> No.4621102

>>4621096
he never mentioned psychology

>> No.4621113

>>4620936
Depends what your definition of "real" is

>> No.4621120

>>4621102

If you're going after a psychiatry degree, you will need to undoubtedly take psychology courses. If you didn't take one psychology course on your way to get a psychiatry degree, you've successfully cheated the system. Congratulations.

>> No.4621126

>>4621120
Obviously, but he didnt mention psychology.

>> No.4621143

>>4621126
His picture does, but he also implicitly accepted the fact that psychiatry was not a science either.

>> No.4621149

dont you have to go to med school to be a psychiatrist?

>> No.4621150

>>4621143
Psychiatry is a science.

>>4621149
Yes

>> No.4621179

A good psychiatry curriculum includes lots of high-level chem courses, which most certainly require advanced math.

Luckily for you, there are no good psychiatry programs.

>> No.4621184

>>4621179
lol

>> No.4621203

There sure is a lot of confusion in here. Mostly because of OP's picture.

OP posts a picture of Psychology and then asks about Psychiatry.

Psychology is a degree offered at undergraduate, masters, and doctorate levels. It involves counseling and therapeutic modalities that do not include the prescription of medication. It is typically an outpatient setting.

Psychiatrists are M.D.s who have completed 4 years of undergrad, 4 years of medical school, 4 years of a Phsychiatric Residency, and possibly 1-2 more years in a fellowship in any of the Phsyicatric subspecialties. There is less of an emphasis on counseling or behavior-based therapeutic modalities and a greater emphasis on the inpatient (hospital) setting and use of prescribed medications and non-medical therapies within the scope of practice of a physician.

I hope this clears something up.

Psychology gets a lot of shit on /sci/ because of the pseudoscientific past (and present, in some institutions) which relied more on personal hypotheses of the field's forbears (Jung, Freud, Adler, etc). However modern psychiatry (the APA, for instance) emphasizes peer-review, neuroscience, and hypotheses that meet the vigor of the scientific method.

>> No.4621210

>>4621203
>pseudoscientific past (and present, in some institutions)
The only scientific psychiatry is in Anglophone countries. Latin America and Continental Europe are still full of people who think motherfucking Lacan understood the human mind.

>> No.4621211

thoughts on Applied Behavior Analysis?

>> No.4621219

>>4621203

Somewhat true. I've taken law and psychology, and you would see some cases (real ones) I've seen, when psychiatrist have taken children from their parents, based on shit like that a kid's dislike for carrots is because he have had unpleasant experiences with his fathers penis, and possibly molested..

It's insane.

>> No.4621228

>>4621219
Sometimes I wonder if Psychologists have little-dick-syndrome and try to compensate by exercising their clout in court.

>> No.4621231

>>4621179
What would psychiatrist need physical chemistry for?

>> No.4621242

I'll give it 25 years before current psychology and psychiatrist degrees are considered old due to an increase in neuroscience later on.

>> No.4621243

>>4621231
They don't. I'm not sure what this dude's talking about.

Unless you're getting your undergrad major in Chemistry, you aren't going to take P-Chem.

The most math you are required to take in undergrad to meed Med School pre-reqs is Calculus.

>> No.4621248

>>4621242
Psychiatry is quickly becoming applied Neuroscience, already. The diffusion of information is happening quicker than you think. But there will always be a distinction between the clinicians and the researchers. One doesn't "replace" the other.

>> No.4621257

>>4621228

I dunno, most cases used a psychiatrist even thou in most cases a psychologist would do. But I think it have to do that in the states, you just need a undergraduate degree to be called a psychologist, while in, as an example, Sweden, it's undergrad+master+one year in the field to be called a psychologist.

>> No.4621258

>>4621248
>Quicker than I think
Good to hear.
>Distinction
Well, not really a way to avoid it. They're two different roles after all.

>> No.4621418

ITT: Idiots who dont know the difference between psychology and psychiatry even though its been explained.