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Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:36:25 2012 No.4619146 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:37:33 2012 No.4619154 Infinity+0 /thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:38:33 2012 No.4619157 infinity because infinity - infinity = zero

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:38:35 2012 No.4619158 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:39:40 2012 No.4619160

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99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:39:40 2012 No.4619161 the largest number in this thread + 1

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:40:57 2012 No.4619164 >>4619146 Infinity is not a defined integer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:41:04 2012 No.4619171 The length of my penis. The inverse lenght of yours.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:41:57 2012 No.4619168 >>4619164 That's why he said "number" and not "integer".

>>	mtp !EKFQOBEsKo Thu Apr 26 15:42:04 2012 No.4619176 Grahams number. Squared.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:42:13 2012 No.4619177

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:42:13 2012 No.4619178 Graham's Number. To the Graham's Number. Plus one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:42:13 2012 No.4619179 >>4619164 It's defined as Aleph. It's value is the same as OP's Mom's weight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:42:13 2012 No.4619180 http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/bignumbers.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:42:13 2012 No.4619181 >>4619171 those aren't dimensionless numbers. Retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:43:13 2012 No.4619183 OP's score on the faggot scale

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:43:13 2012 No.4619189 >>4619186 Highschooler detected.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:43:13 2012 No.4619188 File: 960 KB, 500x500, universe.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] UNIVERSE!!!! because its expanding!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:43:13 2012 No.4619187 File: 28 KB, 400x400, trollcorner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Speaking of troll questions f(x,y) = y^x^y df/dy = ? hardmode: Don't use any calculation SW. Then do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:43:13 2012 No.4619186 >>4619168 Infinity is not a number either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:46:37 2012 No.4619195 wat

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:46:37 2012 No.4619196 >>4619187 Why is that a troll question? The graph of <span class="math">z = y^{x^y}[/spoiler] looks continuous and differentiable to me...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:46:37 2012 No.4619197 >>4619187 0

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:47:37 2012 No.4619200 >>4619187 why is it supposed to be hard?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:47:44 2012 No.4619201 y = closest number inf - x = y x + y = inf x + y - y - inf = (-y) (-1)(x - inf) = (-y)(-1) (-x) - (-inf) = y (-x) + inf = y i have no fucking idea

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:47:44 2012 No.4619205 >>4619189 It isn’t, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:48:54 2012 No.4619212 >>4619187 speaking of which. DO YOUR OWN FUCKING HOMEWORK

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:48:54 2012 No.4619214 >>4619205 Go ahead and define "number". Then show me why infinity is not a number.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:48:54 2012 No.4619216 >>4619200 I didn't say it's hard. Do it yourself, then lookup Wolfram results and compare the two.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:49:52 2012 No.4619224 >>4619212 >implying you need other people to do derivatives for you

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:49:54 2012 No.4619217 >>4619196 Oh, I see... It's fucked for x < 0 and y < 0. Wow, that is one fucked up function. Looks like a fractal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:49:54 2012 No.4619219 ∞ - 0.000000...001

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:51:52 2012 No.4619227 >>4619214 >hurr infinity is a number, prove me wrong It is a not a member of the set of real numbers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:53:52 2012 No.4619234 >>4619227 Oh dear son. He's going to pick up on the "real numbers", and say that wasn't what you claimed.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:54:52 2012 No.4619235

>>4619227
That's not what I was asking for. You said it's "not a number", you didn't say "it's not a real number". If you used the latter phrase, there would be no need to discuss. But since you now defined "number" as "real number", you are saying that complex numbers are not numbers. Probably you don't know what complex numbers are, because you're still in highschool. So please look them up before replying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:55:52 2012 No.4619239 File: 118 KB, 579x1360, yxy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4619217

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:57:52 2012 No.4619242 >>4619239 holy shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:58:52 2012 No.4619246 >>4619239 That is beautiful how do you get wolfram alpha to do that? Can you zoom in or out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:59:52 2012 No.4619250 >>4619246 Yeah, WolframAlpha has basically all of Mathematica built into it. Just use the "Plot3D" command: http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/ref/Plot3D.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:01:52 2012 No.4619256 >>4619187 <span class="math">xy\;y^{xy-1}\;x^y\;log(x)[/spoiler]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:01:52 2012 No.4619259 >>4619246 Some features are only available if you pay in jew gold though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:03:52 2012 No.4619265 >>4619259 Yeah, pretty much all the interactivity buttons link you to the Free Trial of Pro version.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:03:52 2012 No.4619624 [DELETED]

>>4619214
>>4619235
> The word "number" is a general term which refers to a member of a given (possibly ordered) set. The meaning of "number" is often clear from context (i.r., does it refer to a complex number, integer, real number, etc.?). Wherever possible in this work, the word "number" is used to refer to quantities which are integers, and "constant" is reserved for nonintegral numbers which have a fixed value. Because terms such as real number, Bernoulli number, and irrational number are commonly used to refer to nonintegral quantities, however, it is not possible to be entirely consistent in nomenclature.
Hiding behind ambiguous context won't save you now. Numbers are integers, while _____ numbers are members of some set _____. Specify a well-ordered set that includes an infinity if you're going to request people use the distance function to calculate proximity to it from the other members.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:04:00 2012 No.4619629

>>4619214
>>4619235
> The word "number" is a general term which refers to a member of a given (possibly ordered) set. The meaning of "number" is often clear from context (i.e., does it refer to a complex number, integer, real number, etc.?). Wherever possible in this work, the word "number" is used to refer to quantities which are integers, and "constant" is reserved for nonintegral numbers which have a fixed value. Because terms such as real number, Bernoulli number, and irrational number are commonly used to refer to nonintegral quantities, however, it is not possible to be entirely consistent in nomenclature.
Hiding behind ambiguous context won't save you now. Numbers are integers, while _____ numbers are members of some set _____. Specify a well-ordered set that includes an infinity if you're going to request people use the distance function to calculate proximity to it from the other members.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:07:24 2012 No.4619636 God, you guys are all retarded. The closest number to ∞ is 8. Just look at how close they are.

>>	Not Columbo Thu Apr 26 18:10:47 2012 No.4619646 1, it is just as close as 2, just as close as 800000000000000000000000000000 etc >I don't realy know

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:11:56 2012 No.4619651 I wrote a little program to find it out. x = y = 0; while (x==y) { x++; y++; } It starts at 0 and then counts its way up to the largest number possible. It might take a while though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:12:03 2012 No.4619654 infinity +-1/infinity

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:13:03 2012 No.4619657 >>4619651 How long do you suppose? I need numbers, sir. I need accurate measurements. I cannot perform with "might take a while though."

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:13:03 2012 No.4619655

>>4619146

Infinity is not a number. A googolplex [(10^100)^100))] is just as far from infinity as the number 1. There is no number that is "closest" to infinity, because any number you can think of, put in context with infinity, the difference between them is insignificant. I hope that answers your question.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:15:20 2012 No.4619667 >>4619655 my bad, way to many closing parens. I'm a wee bit tired.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:16:27 2012 No.4619668 Should this deal with a "when" instead of a which? When is closest to infinity? All of it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:18:44 2012 No.4619678 >>4619657 It will take infinity - 1 time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:21:07 2012 No.4619695 <div class="math">\infty - \infty^{-1}</div> But you need to thing of the omni-supra-über-trans-complex set to understand this

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:01:20 2012 No.4620039 >>4619695 > test > teast >á > test

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:27:04 2012 No.4620443 Infinity - fractional infinity. /thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:34:43 2012 No.4620456 infinity-(1/infinity)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:36:59 2012 No.4620462 24 24 is the highest number.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:37:07 2012 No.4620464 give me a definite number you think is closest to infinity and i'll give you one that's closer

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:37:15 2012 No.4620466 File: 24 KB, 400x300, dc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4620462 I'd like to rescind my answer in light of this wise reminder.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:44:03 2012 No.4620486 FOLKS, PLEASE KEEP THE FOLLOWING DISTINCT CONCEPTS STRAIGHT IN YOUR MINDS: NUMBER CARDINALITY (OF A SET) INFINITY ALSO PLEASE REALIZE THAT CAPS LOCK IS COOL WHEN I USE IT, BUT NO ONE ELSE

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:48:27 2012 No.4620495 >>4620456 >>4620443 >>4619695 infinity - 0 is still infinity

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:07:44 2012 No.4620543 Isn't infinity the set of all numbers? So wouldn't the nearest thing to all numbers be no numbers or nothing? Meaning zero? I'm sure my logic is flawed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 03:44:15 2012 No.4621252 Every number has the same distance to infinity, that is an infinite distance. So in a sense every number is the closest to infinity.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 03:49:55 2012 No.4621262

>>4620543
It's not just flawed; it's completely meaningless technobabble.

As far as OP's question is concerned there is obviously no answer, and not even because he is asking which number is closest to infinity.

Even if he asked which number is closest to 1.4, it would be completely meaningless. For any number q that is arbitrarily close to 1.4 there is a neighborhood defined by q with an infinite number of points in it. Each one of those points is closer to 1.4 than q.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 03:52:11 2012 No.4621266 >which number is closest to infinity >implying that infinity is a single number lrn2 aleph and bet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 03:59:07 2012 No.4621278 99.999999... of infinity

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:02:23 2012 No.4621281 This one.

>>	None !RyokoZeKeM Fri Apr 27 04:05:40 2012 No.4621285 1

>>	yeep !HCCDB7tu.A Fri Apr 27 04:14:43 2012 No.4621295 infinity - .0000......1 have the trolls taught you guys anything?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:15:51 2012 No.4621298 Infinity times 0.999...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:18:15 2012 No.4621302 this is a great fucking question

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:19:23 2012 No.4621304 >>4620462 also, this

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:22:47 2012 No.4621308 every number is as close to infinity as you can possibly be. except zero

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Fri Apr 27 04:32:51 2012 No.4621318 File: 257 KB, 456x346, facepalm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >67 posts and 4 image replies omitted.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:46:27 2012 No.4621339 >>4619187 Holy fuck, I'm trying to use the chain rule but I just cant set it up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:47:43 2012 No.4621340 >>4621318 Posting a smartass comment after a lot of replies doesnt make you smart. In fact the question of far to complicated to understand specially for you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 05:03:35 2012 No.4621368 File: 18 KB, 626x551, 1325283748692.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4621278 >99.999999...% of infinity This is why I fucking love this board.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 05:09:16 2012 No.4621386

>>	EK !EKFQOBUFnQ Fri Apr 27 05:09:16 2012 No.4621385 >>4621340 the question is fucking stupid, i was saying that im astonished that this stupid trollthread has so many replies. at most i expected about 3 sage-posts all calling OP a stupid faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 05:14:55 2012 No.4621394 >>4619146 Which infinity? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Cantor

>>	sage Fri Apr 27 08:28:44 2012 No.4621659 >>4619146 infinity - (1/infinity)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 08:34:23 2012 No.4621670 Graham's number. Beat that, bitches! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham%27s_number

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 08:35:31 2012 No.4621672 >>4621670 Graham's number + 1. You're new to this, aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 08:37:47 2012 No.4621675 >>4621672 Graham's number ^ Graham's number then

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 08:38:55 2012 No.4621677 Pi without a decimal point

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 08:44:36 2012 No.4621680 Guys. Hey guys. So - guys - I have an idea. Alright, the closest number to infinity, guys, is, wait for it. >Zero

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:38:59 2012 No.4621744 >>4621680 That's the furthest. LOL.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:52:15 2012 No.4621786 Infinity - 1/infinity. Duh

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:54:15 2012 No.4621792 >>4621786 No, sorry. x - 1/x is not the closest number to x

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