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4617037 No.4617037 [Reply] [Original]

>Follow your heart
>I love her with all my heart
>She broke my heart
>Live with your heart on your sleeve

Why is an organ, that pumps blood around our bodies, used as a metaphor for love, passion etc? When did this come about?

>> No.4617052

who dat wimin

>> No.4617058

>>4617052
Some pale eurotrash chick who models for a stock image company?

>> No.4617061

because emotional people are retarded

>> No.4617059

Because it's more obvious that your heart is doing something, i.e., beating, than your brain, which does nothing but sit inside your skull.

>> No.4617074

Maybe because heart rate is noticeably associated with emotional excitement.

>> No.4617078

because your heart has emotions
isnt there some study or something that showed it held memory or something?

>> No.4617084

>>4617078
>>4617059
trolling so much at /b/ adapted your trolling skills to crap.
0/10000

>> No.4617092

I don't know the answer, but it still seems pretty damn obvious....

Either before people knew much about anything to do with the human body, or just coming from people who don't,
strong emotions like love and heart break FEEL like they are coming from roughly the region where your heart is.

I'm sure many people today even use it simply for that reason. They say "my heart aches for you" or whatever, and it is understood that they are talking about that specific feeling. Not that their heart actually generates an emotion or wants something.


simple....

>> No.4617097

>>4617084
>implying the brain doesn't just sit inside your head
does your brain jump around or something?

>> No.4617101

Because your emotions influence your heart rate and vice-versa

>> No.4617108

>>4617097
>Implying you are not your brain
>Implying that saying "my brain" is not like talking at the third person when referring to yourself

We are fucked up

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4617109

>>4617092
>strong emotions like love and heart break FEEL like they are coming from roughly the region where your heart is.

ahh no they dont.
you feel it more in your gut, no one feels shit around their chest area.

>> No.4617115

>>4617108
but im not my brain
im conciousness, which is largely not understood yet.

>> No.4617123

>>4617097
yeah. brain does nothing at all. atleast your do it sesms

>> No.4617124

Because the hormones have to travel through the bloodstream in order to 'inform' the rest of your body, which is invariably concentrated through the heart. There is a more succinct answer which explains how the brain regulates the release of hormones based on genetic/experiential memory but I don't haz it...

>> No.4617127

>>4617123
did you just have a stroke?

>> No.4617133

>>4617115
When we mess up with the brain, it affects our consciousness. You can cut an arm, change your heart, you can do whatever you want with your body, but when you start modifying anything in the brain, your consciousness is affected. So there is two options.
1- You are your brain
2- Your brain and your consciousness are very hard to separate

>> No.4617135

>>4617115
public retard on the loose

>> No.4617136

Because you feel your heart change when in love.

>> No.4617137

>>4617133
you are your brain and "consciousness" is a byproduct

>> No.4617142

>>4617133
>you are your brain
Wouldn't it be more likely to say that I am conciousness that is operating my brain. Therefore not the brain itself.

>> No.4617144

>>4617135
>implying you can prove anything on the subject

>> No.4617147

>>4617142
Yeah, I know, but I prefer to say that we are our brain. Because for me, the consciousness is like a field generated by the brain... and I don't like this.

>> No.4617152

>>4617142
haha conceptual dualism is so sad
then what, pray tell, are "you" made of, controlling what you say is a brain in a body?

>> No.4617151

>>4617147
you dont like being a brain?
why not?

>> No.4617157

>>4617152
I am the fire inside the brain

>> No.4617160

>>4617157
and obviously I dont mean actual fire
I mean whatever the energy is that triggers everything

>> No.4617161

>>4617151
No, I'm okay with the fact of being a brain. But I'm not okay with the fact that I am something made out of my brain.
It's kind of funny, it,s like the wave-particle duality, but more like the brain-consciousness duality.

>> No.4617163

>>4617157
Well, that's just saying you are the phenomenon rather than the substrate. Which is OK, I guess.

But you understand that in this sense if you're unconscious there is no "you", right?
>>4617160
>the energy is that triggers everything
OK, no, that is not what I was talking about.

What makes you think you're the cause of your brain's activity, rather than being the activity itself?

>> No.4617173

>>4617160
>the energy that triggers everything
unnecessary assumption that makes reference to the brain

>> No.4617176

>>4617174
>Im just not activating the awareness part of the brain.
But you're not in control of that.

>> No.4617174

>>4617163
>But you understand that in this sense if you're unconscious there is no "you", right?

I am still alive. Im just not activating the awareness part of the brain.

>What makes you think you're the cause of your brain's activity, rather than being the activity itself?

My argumentative nature.

>> No.4617181

>>4617161
yeah except that there is no brain-consciousness duality so much as a conscious brain

>> No.4617183

>>4617176
True. If I am unconscious then its because the awareness part has been disturbed.

>> No.4617190

>>4617174
there isn't much of an argument behind what you say more than "I can experience things so I must be a consciousness that drives a brain that drives a body."

>> No.4617197

>>4617183
And you can't turn it on and off at will without altering your brain (sedation, blows to the head, etc., and that's only for turning OFF your consciousness)

>> No.4617210

>>4617197
Yeah, I didnt claim I could?
Just like I can't mend a broken arm, I have to wait for it to heal.

>> No.4617222

>>4617210
>Yeah, I didnt claim I could?
see
>>4617174
> Im just not activating the awareness part of the brain.

>> No.4617232

>>4617222
see
>>4617183
?

I said if im unconscious then that means something in my awareness sector has been damaged and I have to either wait for it to heal. If it doesn't heal then they can turn off the life machine and I die.

>> No.4617239

>>4617037

It's because Aristotle and the Egyptians thought the rational soul presided in the heart and not the brain, which was thought of as something akin to a radiator. This came about thousands of years ago, and thus the heart has been the symbol for love and other emotions ever since.

>> No.4617284

>>4617239
>something akin to a radiator
lol idiots

>> No.4617295

Aristotle thought that the heart was the seat of emotions. And this is probably becus that one when feels love, one feels it in the stomach heart (butterflies and faster beating).

>> No.4617298

>>4617232
>awareness sector
0/10

>> No.4617306

>>4617298
not even trolling
I just don't know neurological terminology. Surely there is areas of the brain which show no activity when someone is unconscious?